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View Poll Results: Air Episode 12 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 161 | 67.93% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 32 | 13.50% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 27 | 11.39% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 8 | 3.38% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 9 | 3.80% |
Voters: 237
#61
09-02-10, 8:39 AM
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You're absolutely welcome :) Thanks a lot for not offering any bit of insight or discussion about this wonderful series. The only reason you could be mad about such "spoiler" is that you didn't even understand the series nor Misuzu's plight. Also, I find it hilarious that you didn't even spoiler tag the actual spoiler itself. ^^ Currently blogging at Chocolate Syrupy Waffles |
#62
09-04-10, 2:12 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 107 |
Meddigo said: I think you misunderstand.You're absolutely welcome :) Thanks a lot for not offering any bit of insight or discussion about this wonderful series. The only reason you could be mad about such "spoiler" is that you didn't even understand the series nor Misuzu's plight. Also, I find it hilarious that you didn't even spoiler tag the actual spoiler itself. ^^ My post's intention was clearly to encourage proper use of spoiler tags in the future (by you, as well as others), so as to avoid other innocents from suffering the same fate I did (or worse!). Not to discuss this indeed wonderful series. I think chinaboat and Roketsu covered everything pretty much already. Speech is silver, silence is gold. Modified by JvW4, 09-04-10, 2:26 PM |
#63
09-11-10, 3:13 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 28 |
I think patient_sense made this show a bit more sensible for me. Hey, come to think of it, wasn't it Yukito who became the crow, not Ryuya? I thought he formed into the crow after he poured his soul into his puppet. Maybe that's just me. Idk. This show confused me - I may have to watch it again to try to pick up on what I missed. On another note, I wish they had done something more with Yukito's telekinetic powers and the magic users. They were just like "oh yeah, he can use telekinesis, a girl has wings, and her mom can use magic to completely obliterate a fleet of soldiers, no biggy, w/e" That bugged me. Why were the characters so completely un-interested in such things? Ughh. It just got ignored. p.s. Misuzu ftw! :eof Modified by TheRetroSpectrum, 09-11-10, 3:19 AM |
#64
09-13-10, 8:54 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 807 |
I don't think anyone was ever shocked over Yukito's ability because the only one who ever really got to see it was Misuzu: when he used magic to oust the vengeful mother that had possessed Kano. Sure, the little kids saw him move the doll around, but they were completely incredulous the whole time, asking where the string was, etc. I believe he also performed for Haruko who was just as incredulous. But really, the only time he used magic in some exuberant way in the presence of others was the exorcism of Kano. Every other time was in a tawdry way to entertain others (and who really pays all that much mind to street performers anyway). Currently blogging at Chocolate Syrupy Waffles |
#65
09-16-10, 10:25 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1511 |
I really loved the ending of this series, its so sad :( |
#66
10-07-10, 5:14 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1 |
I just finished and here is my speculation: Where to start... Ok, the crow, I didn't get, but a few things I can piece together (yes I know Clannad was after Air, but bear with me), In Clannad, ~After stories~ it turns out Tomoya was the robot, but he couldn't build or do anything but spectate this girl, and Yukito was eventually reincarnated as the crow with a somewhat similar role. The "looping" as I saw it referred to as, made me pissed to, but it makes sense when at the beginning and end the lady says the story will continue forever without end, until the last child. A.D.D. MOMENT: And how all the winged girls wanted to just do something fun like go to the beach and how all Yukito had to do was make Misuzu smile and stay by her side; anyway, all the memories will be passed down from child to child, to the very last UNTIL THE LAST MEMORY IS FULL OF NOTHING BUT HAPPINESS.. <---- That I believe is THE BIGGEST POINT, especially in other Key films, like Clannad with the Hikari and Angel Beats! The two children at the end, I had a theory, and it was Yukitos mom, since she promised to return, but thinking about it, I saw another post, and it was Yukito and Misuzu, interesting thought, and may as well be true. It was sad/funny when Misuzu kept falling over, even more sad so when you figure out why. |
#67
10-19-10, 9:46 PM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3127 |
meh I didn't like the ending or get most of this. our main character became the crow ? and misuzu just dies from the curse of her ancestor? I just don't know. It stopped being too interesting when he vanished or turned into a crow. I enjoyed Clannad and Kanon a lot more.... the story was just too out there and the 2 other girls weren't very relevant at all. |
#68
10-21-10, 7:35 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 748 |
I liked this series alot, Key's works are just my favorite among all writers. The ending was very bittersweet, but moreso on the sweet side. Haruko's arc at the end was very well done and emotional. She easily became my favorite character. 9/10 and really wish there were more Key works in anime form. |
#69
10-25-10, 6:16 PM
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Offline Joined: May 2009 Posts: 22 |
The curse isn't broken ..?? "tragic times lay ahead for those two, but for us it's only just begun" as quoted by the boy on the beach but, atleast Misuzu new what it was to be happy!! |
#70
11-04-10, 11:48 AM
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Online Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2800 |
This anime is all over the place. Out of Key's big three, Air is surely to be the weakest. And if the cycle is broken ( which I honestly think it's not ) then why did Misuzu died anyway? Modified by Robinlust, 11-04-10, 1:37 PM |
#71
11-04-10, 2:04 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 807 |
Because it was her (and Haruko's) sacrifice that caused the curse to be broken. By her achieving her goal of being with a friend and seeing the ocean together, she broke the binds on Kanna. And if you want the proof that it's broken, then you should tell those kids are the next reincarnations of Kanna and Ryuuya respectively, and they're seen holding hands with neither of them being sick or weak. After 1000 summers, Kanna was freed. Currently blogging at Chocolate Syrupy Waffles |
#72
11-06-10, 4:34 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1377 |
Well, what can I say... this last arc was marvelous. Very touching indeed. But as for the show itself, it was really lacking. The arcs about the other girls felt really unnecessary. The only reason they were there, was probably because that this show was based on a visual novel. I might be wrong, of course, but that is what I believe. It was not until this last arc the show actually became very good. The "flashback arc" was so so, but at least it told us what the heck was happening. And thanks to that, this last arc became very good. We all knew what was coming: "Goal". It makes me sad, really sad. But as a show, Air didn't make it. 6/10, even if it sounds harsh. But even so, the journey was worth it. Without a single doubt. |
#73
11-30-10, 12:44 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 139 |
NOOO Where is the Happy end! Why can't it be like Clannad! Hell but just at the last moment heaven! God dam i cried to much! Can't cry any more!!!! |
#74
01-23-11, 2:22 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2191 |
those 2 big posts at the first page really helped alot. now to watch the recap and the summer episodes, i'll watch the movie later. |
#75
02-04-11, 9:21 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 786 |
Air is the weakest among the Key's anime..But it's my most favorite. 10/10 a masterpiece. ![]() |
#76
03-03-11, 7:48 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 145 |
i guess it's just a lil confusing but the story is really brilliant.. the only factors I dont like about the series is how it was presented and the way MOST of the voice actresses act. Though it is convincing, I havent really cried at all. Really. Though I am a crybaby..though at some point at ep. 11 I almost cried, I guess the emotions put by the seiyuus are not enough unlike CLANNAD which even you like it or not you will cry.. in the presentation, I didnt like that the arcs of the 2 other supporting characters are so short .You havent even grasped the situation and then one moment later its already the revelation time. |
#77
03-05-11, 2:39 AM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 83 |
Roketsu said: Huge post, so click the spoiler tag at your own risk :P After some fleshing out of the story and putting it together...I do give the series a lot more credit since it was all there and there werent really any holes in the story. However, I feel that the way it presented itself wasnt up to snuff compared to the story it was telling. It felt at times the story jumped all over the place and jumbled over itself...when the crow was introduced and we are suppose to realize it was always there in the first place reminds me of when a film uses fancy cuts to show that something was there all along but we just didnt pay attention...then we were suppose to swallow that the crows spirit was either Yukitos or I believe ryuuya. The problem with that is that if the crow was yukitos soul...whos the meat bag thats controlling him? And even if it was his ancestor ryuuya, it takes away from the main characters significance in my opinion because when you are reincarnated...you take over someones spirit or soul which is now yours...so how is there still an original floating around right next to you in the form of a bird? I think it was a solid series nonetheless but it has a lot of things in the way to be considered great. |
#78
03-24-11, 8:26 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 364 |
7/10 having the 2 episode story from the past kinda set me off, and with this size of only 12 episodes it just didn't fit right, ESPECIALLY being in the middle of the anime. nonetheless it was still a good anime just not something i would praise as being amazing. |
#79
03-25-11, 4:39 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 807 |
That's too bad. The story of Kanna, Ryuuya, and Uraha (the "Summer" Arc) is the centerpiece of Air. It is the storytelling behind the events of 1000 years ahead (with Misuzu, Yukito, Kano, Minagi, etc). It's like saying the Illusionary World doesn't fit right in Clannad. That's just silly, cause without the Illusionary World there'd be no foreshadowing or backstory to the events that are occurring to Nagisa, Tomoya, and Ushio. I'd say give it a rewatch in a few years or so, particularly if you liked the other Key works. Air is probably the hardest to understand in regards to symbolism and story progression of the 3, but once the connections are made most people see how brilliant the story is. Currently blogging at Chocolate Syrupy Waffles |
#80
03-25-11, 5:17 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1 |
I think Air is such a beautiful anime and it's a real shame that it seems to go under the radar and not many people have heard of it. The storyline is confusing but other people's thoughts on it have given me such a clearer understanding... Now I just want to watch it again and again! I knew it would be but I hate how incredibly sad the ending is. I cried so hard at this! But I'd recommend it to anyone. "Don't call me small! I'll break down your feet and stick 'em on your head!" |
















