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Mar 23, 2008 10:36 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Poor Hagu-chan. Hope she cheers up on the last episode (T_T).
I also wonder if Takemoto will go back to his friends, or he'll just keep travelling around Japan (unless they do a small timeskip).

Also, I found the "axe of truth" and the old man (the man seemed like he was going to die at any moment) parts really funny xD

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Sep 1, 2008 5:09 AM

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Kayro said:
I also wonder if Takemoto will go back to his friends, or he'll just keep travelling around Japan (unless they do a small timeskip).
Probably in the next episode :/
The kid is lol. "The chief told me to..." XD
 
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Oct 5, 2008 2:16 PM

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baka kid.
If they want him to spend the bikemoney on food and such, but want the bike back, how will he travel back to tokyo from there?
 
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May 10, 2009 9:07 PM

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I was thinking so too MaiZorbescu.

The part when Morita, Mayama and Hanamoto-sensei were talking was really interesting.

Wow, only an episode left.


 
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ahahah miwako.. and the dog can actually see the "other miwako" hahaha... and that guy in red... funny.. its nice the takemoto met different people on his way...
 
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I'm really curious how everything's going to work out in the last episode and whether all of them will solve their personal problems...

Plus, with the last few episodes, my interest in Takemoto's story has increased a lot!


 
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Jun 11, 2009 6:58 AM

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I loved the axe of truth that was funny. Takemoto is really brave going that far.

 
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Yeah, the last few episodes Takemoto has skyrocketed up my favorite characters in H&C.
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I loved the axe of truth that was funny. Takemoto is really brave going that far.
And I love how the ED just fits so perfect right now, with Takemoto riding away. I don't want this anime to end I love everyone so much! Even occasionally stupid Hagu, <3
 
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Yeah, the last few episodes Takemoto has skyrocketed up my favorite characters in H&C.

Yep, now I like him as much as I like Morita, who's been my favourite from the very beginning. Maaaybe even a little better ;)
I just love this story 'arc' with the journey. -sniff- makes me want to go on one myself.
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Jun 20, 2010 2:32 AM

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I don't get it how you people can like Takemoto so much. He's my least favourite character ever... I wish the next episode won't be full of him like this one.
 
Aug 19, 2010 8:42 PM

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I don't get it how you people can like Takemoto so much. He's my least favourite character ever... I wish the next episode won't be full of him like this one.


XD Once again, what she said...

Way too much Takemoto, not enough Morita.
 
Dec 28, 2010 5:28 AM

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Kugutsue said:
I don't get it how you people can like Takemoto so much. He's my least favourite character ever... I wish the next episode won't be full of him like this one.

Same. Well I dont like him, but I dont hate him either. He plays a major role in this anyway.

Even though the show is still putting out comedic scenes and stuff, it is becoming really hard to laugh it off. I am really drowned by all the painful scenes and cant seem to forget them.
 
Jan 8, 2011 6:43 AM

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I think I somehow understand the way Morita feels..., but my heart still broke a little when he pretended to avoid Hagu's topic while feeling so worried about her
 
Jan 8, 2011 6:48 AM

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I think I somehow understand the way Morita feels..., but my heart still broke a little when he pretended to avoid Hagu's topic while feeling so worried about her
 
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Why do I like Takemoto? He is being honest with himself while facing questions the majority of people dread to acknowledge they have. Take that annoying brat of workers. He pretends that he is solid and tough personality because he started working at 16 and didn't have time to such "foolishness" Takemoto is having at his "leisure". But he is realy envious. An early start gave him a bit of self-determination but he doesn't seem at ease with his occupation. It was sort of decided on him and I see his reaction on Takemoto as an indication that he didn't have real self yet. I don't think anyone who has experienced a need of self-discovery and went on such a journey (not necessary by travelling some land) would be annoyed at Takemoto. It seems that he has much in common with Hagu. Difference in that she is extremely talented while fails at day-to-day activities and Takemoto does not have any exceptional gift in arts but is good at caring for people. And both Hagu and Takemoto were exeptionaly abused by Morita :) Does it realy has to be decided on one of them to be with Hagu? While their relationships overlap I don't see them as conflicting directly, unlike Yamada-Rika to Mayama. I don't think Morita even needs a woman in usual sense of it. I wonder what he will be like as an adult...
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May 29, 2011 8:45 AM

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I love the feeling I get that they all have mature a little.
I have learned so much things and realized some others.
I'm curious of how next ep will be since Takemoto is still traveling :/
 
Nov 14, 2011 2:43 PM

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Hagu looks a little older now O.o
Somehow, Morita is cute :3
 
Jan 8, 2012 8:58 AM

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The parting makes me sad inside. It was short but probably memorable for Takemoto.

"The Chief told me to..." - lol

One episode left now.
 
Jun 17, 2012 11:56 AM

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Morita! Do something already! Cheer Hagu up or something! With one more episode to go, Takemoto will definitely be back soon! I wanna see some action! >_<
 
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wow i don't give a shit about takemoto. i've been skipping his scenes the whole series. why did they think we would care
 
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why did they think we would care


I cared, in fact this was maybe my favorite sequence from the series. If you actually bothered to watch his scenes you may of cared too.
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Aug 3, 2012 1:08 AM

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Takemoto has been my favourite character since the first few episodes, and he really grew on me in the latter half of the anime, in just how much I find a lot of similarities in the issues he's facing with the ones I'm facing. Every episode always gets me thinking what Takemoto is thinking: What do I really want to do with my life? Where am I going? What am I supposed to do?

I hope he finds what he's looking for, but still, even if he hasn't necessarily "found" anything, I just hope that at least, this journey of his taught him valuable lessons of life.
 
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I've watched all the scenes and haven't skipped a single part, but I still don't really care for Takemoto. I have gotten to like the loli more though and all the rest of the main characters here, but I haven't really liked Takemoto's story at all since the start of the series. Maybe its just me, but this journey thing and what do I want in life thing isn't clicking for me.

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Nov 18, 2012 2:39 AM

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Once again a nice episode, it seems we're now building up for the next final episode, hagu is still confused and most of the relations between all the male characters is complicated so nothing has positively improved I do hope this will change in the second season after the next final episode!
 
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It’s a good thing the workers made him leave. If Takemoto stayed he would have never have learned why he set out in the first place. It’s understandable why he wanted to stay of course. He finally had a place to be where he was needed and was feeling rewarded with the happy smiles (and of course money) he got.

Mayama is going to have to decide what to do about Rika and Yamada. There’s no way out this time and I’m curious to see what happens. It’s not like he’s sure to end up with Rika either so it’ll be interesting.
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Dec 12, 2014 1:49 PM

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Really enjoyed this episode too.
 
Dec 14, 2014 4:33 PM

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I agree that Yamada isn't necessarily in love with Mayama anymore. After so long even love can die, and once it's dead there's hardly any way to go back. I feel bad for her.

Takemoto is in the same league as Morita and Yamada now, imo. His development has gotten a lot better.

Only one more episode. D:
 
Dec 16, 2014 11:44 AM

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Awesome episode, can't wait to see Takemoto's journey to Wakkanai. He's going to freeze his balls off in Winter.

Ninah said:
wow i don't give a shit about takemoto. i've been skipping his scenes the whole series. why did they think we would care


Haha, and you rated this series an 8? Sounds like you don't even like this anime since you're constantly skipping parts of every episode. God people like you are fucking retarded.
 
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Why do I like Takemoto? He is being honest with himself while facing questions the majority of people dread to acknowledge they have. Take that annoying brat of workers. He pretends that he is solid and tough personality because he started working at 16 and didn&#039;t have time to such "foolishness" Takemoto is having at his "leisure". But he is realy envious. An early start gave him a bit of self-determination but he doesn&#039;t seem at ease with his occupation. It was sort of decided on him and I see his reaction on Takemoto as an indication that he didn&#039;t have real self yet. I don&#039;t think anyone who has experienced a need of self-discovery and went on such a journey (not necessary by travelling some land) would be annoyed at Takemoto. It seems that he has much in common with Hagu. Difference in that she is extremely talented while fails at day-to-day activities and Takemoto does not have any exceptional gift in arts but is good at caring for people. And both Hagu and Takemoto were exeptionaly abused by Morita :) Does it realy has to be decided on one of them to be with Hagu? While their relationships overlap I don&#039;t see them as conflicting directly, unlike Yamada-Rika to Mayama. I don&#039;t think Morita even needs a woman in usual sense of it. I wonder what he will be like as an adult...


Agree with everything you said! I also think that HaguxYuuta makes more sense than her and Morita. I can just see them together in the future. However, something tells me its not gonna be that simple.
And i am starting to like the gentle side of Rika.
 
Apr 21, 2015 5:18 AM

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I'm very interested in the story of love Ayu. At the moment hesitated because of love, someone broke them. Will Ayu move hearts?
 
Jun 13, 2015 4:51 AM

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I hope Yamada give up on Mayama, she deserves better.
Takemoto wont come back so soon it seems :(
 
Jun 30, 2015 1:49 PM

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Yes I wondered how he would get back to Tokyo if he had to give the bike back.

Dog seeing the other Miwako was funny.

Yes, I think Hagu would make more sense with Yuuta than Shinobu too.
 
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Lol @ Takemoto looking like a happy housewife.

Yep, this show just keeps pressing all of the right buttons. I really like what the chief had to say about how a fulfilling life is more important than one where you get all of the answers. It's a lesson I spent one year too many to realize. Strangely enough though, it seemed like a given once I found a direction to move in. Even though admittedly I'm still wandering through a dark tunnel, it doesn't feel like I'm stuck in a loop anymore.

A little side note but Hagu actually looked like a young woman in this episode. Kind of wish they had gone for that design from the beginning as opposed to the loli midget.