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May 21, 2012 10:21 PM

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flaxman85 said:
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i did not like this ending at all.



1. Hayami's parents apparently exploited all the villagers for their own gains (pretty severely judging from the Hotaru's grandfather and villager's attitude towards Hayami). They just want Hayami to suffer.

2. You're taking the train scene too literally frame-by-frame. The anime producers just wanted to add more impact/emotion to the scene by showing Hayami looking back at Hirose. The viewers will see this as Hayami has plenty of time to save the kid and dodge the train when it fact she doesn't. You'll never enjoy any movies/anime/shows if you're watching it the way you are now. Don't get me wrong, I know exactly where you're coming from because I used to pick shows apart by finding plot holes this way. Give it some time and try to understand what I'm trying to say. I wish you best of luck :)

As for my reaction to the series,

Story - great though a bit rushed
Music - good
Art - too colorful
Animation - good
Characters - does not serve justice to the story/plot/theme of this story. They're just too young imo. Though Hayami and Otoha were great.

7.5/10 from me


Except she didn't save the kid at all, she just sat there hugging him. Jumping on a train track to get hit by a train with a random stranger is nonsensical.

At any rate, I found this show to be pretty poor in general. From the entire premise of how he's blind, can see (but not in reality?) then is blind again(apparently always was) then can see again (but can he really?). The 180 by the entire cast in terms of relationships with Hayami, and her ability to forgive everyone even though they called her cockroach and tormented her....and on and on and on...Just a show I found to be very poor plotwise and in execution. 4/10

Jun 12, 2012 2:07 AM
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i didnt really care for this series however this episode was sad when Hayami got hit by the train and i was glad she came back, this episode made the series better for me
Jun 29, 2012 5:30 PM

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shes really alive(but i cant convey my self that shes a live).. a spirit dont get aged(a spirit will remain at age where at aged she died), just like otoha she still remain child.. its just like some sort of clannad ending.. if they want them to die then dont bring it back to life in the end, or dont let them die in the first place.. sorry for bad english :)
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Aug 2, 2012 10:13 PM
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Here's my 2 cents.
Hayami was not killed by that train. She was on the 2nd track while the train passed on the first. She then went away until Hirose was completely better mentally and came back. The little Otoha is representative that his illness has lessened and is leaving him completely.
1) Otoha was never real. Hirose not actually having his sight back is proof of that. If she can't affect reality she doesn't exist.
2) If Hayami is an illusion, it's not a happy ending because then Hirose has no arc as a character, he hasn't recovered at all.
3) There is no grave for Hayami and nobody really comes out and says she's dead. So I think they kept the fact of her survival hidden or at least Hirose's uncle did much like he kept Hayami's family causing his mother's suicide from him.
4) It's a little too much of a coincidence that the same thing would happen to Hayami while she's putting the theory to Hirose and attempting to help him all of a sudden.
Aug 23, 2012 4:29 PM

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Well that was an ok ending, series as a whole was a bit weird and definitely forgettable, why did everyone think that the Kohinata's drove hirose's mom to suicide? did no one see her save his life?

A lot of flaws and plot holes here and there, kinda lame to bring her back to life but i still liked it, the epilogue part was nice too. I always like seeing what happens afterwards. Cant believe hamaji is still crossdressing even though he is a father now. I would hate to have a father like that...though since he is a father one can assume that quite a few years have passed.

6/10 wouldnt watch again.
Aug 29, 2012 11:42 AM

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One of the best features of this anime was the ending. It's possible to make several "readings":
1) Hayami didn't come back from deads and she was just a ghost
2) Hirosi was mental disturbed all the time
3) Otoha brought her back to life
etc
Personally I believe Otoha brought her back as a ghost. And since he was the chosen one, only him could see both.
The one thing I did not understand was the "suicide". Did his mom committed suicide or she was trying to save the boy?


"El Psy Congroo"
Aug 30, 2012 9:11 AM

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hadassawp said:
One of the best features of this anime was the ending. It's possible to make several "readings":
1) Hayami didn't come back from deads and she was just a ghost
2) Hirosi was mental disturbed all the time
3) Otoha brought her back to life
etc
Personally I believe Otoha brought her back as a ghost. And since he was the chosen one, only him could see both.
The one thing I did not understand was the "suicide". Did his mom committed suicide or she was trying to save the boy?


She died saving hirose, but he thought she comitted suicide. You can interpret that Hayami is a ghost but i dont think thats what the animators wanted you to think, i read that she was brought back to life.
Jan 17, 2013 7:52 PM
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i liked the anime for the most part, but not the ending. did they really have to put a supernatural spin on it? wasn't there enough of that b.s. earlier? it was just too much, the easier yet better out was just to have him start breaking down only to have the train finally pass and see her standing there safely with the child. Or they could have just let her die and not bring her stupid ass back... you cant outrun a fucking train so don't try!
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Jan 27, 2013 6:22 PM

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There's so much about this show that I dislike (characters, plot (devices), melodrama, character motives, etc..). ughhhhh

3/10 would unwatch.
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Jan 29, 2013 11:16 PM

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alert105 said:
hinata/hotaru in the end didn't die because she lept on the second track and the kid that was there was just a memory forgetten that hirose's mom tried to save so everything should be cleared up now ^^


well i dont know if it is rigth but i was thnking the same since to me it was clear she was not at the same track as the train and in the end she was there and also in older state. but keep me bothering if this is true or not

another explenation i came across was this wich would make more sense with the episode

While returning from the grocery store Takuma and Hayami came upon a railroad track; attempting to heal Takuma’s mental trauma, Hayami recreates the scene when Takuma’s mother’s accident occurred. By sacrificing herself, Hayami made Takuma realize that Takuma’s mother did not commit suicide, but was killed by trying to save Takuma who had wondered on the train track after a volleyball.Then Takuma meets Otoha in a younger state. Otoha then tells Takuma that she managed to convince the Spirit Committee to bring Hayami back to life. Hayami meets Takuma with the bell strapped on her neck, and together upon that hill, they gaze to the sky.
RobertovkJan 29, 2013 11:28 PM
"When a flat-chested loli hugs you, she holds you closer to her heart"
"--I am a single bullet. It has no heart. Therefore, it does not think. It just flies straight towards its target."
Feb 22, 2013 2:43 PM

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I liked this series, but...

I don't understand why Hayami died. Why would she get hit by a train just like Hirose's mother? It doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone explain? :o
Feb 24, 2013 9:33 AM

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Great show;
This anime gave me a very sad feeling, already in the first eps;
untill ep 8 which almost ruined this show for me; but the ending made that up for me

9/10
Apr 6, 2013 3:48 AM

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Does anyone else think Hayami committed a homicide/suicide by holding (hugging) down that kid on the railroad tracks and then mentally scarring Takuma by smiling at him right before the train hit?

Just kidding.

The ending for me personally was a bit lackluster. It felt like they killed off Hayami to try and tug at some heartstrings.

(What I wished happened.)

They could've just gone the heartwarming route and have Hayami survive because she was on the opposite tracks then Takuma finally snaps out of his "child" faze. They get married return to the village and have many children.
~ El Psy Congroo~

May 10, 2013 9:16 PM

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I don't get why she died, when she got to the boy she kinda just hugged him and looked back and waited for the train to hit her. She could have just pulled the boys hand back. Also at the end does she come back as a spirit or is she real?
Jun 19, 2013 10:27 AM
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These last two eps were a complete mindf*ck...

I think Otoha (represented as Hayami) was the 'magic' ghost/symbolic meaning/spiritual guide to Takuma - which was all imaginary to him. In my interpretation there is no magic and it makes sense because Takuma could never really see. He does get absolutely mindfucked however when he comes to reality (the last few eps), this is represented as his 'eyes' closing.

Hayami takes on the roll as his mother when he's reverted back to a child and traumatised. She, however is not killed. The child was real but she was on the other side of the tracks, herself and the kid are alive and well. Takuma being blind, now fully 'accepts' his mother's death but of course can't tell Hayami is actually fine cause duh he's blind. So Takuma 'opens' his eyes once again and accepts reality, the reality that his mother is truly gone.

Fast forward the 6 or 7 years, Takuma's mentally stable and okay. Otoha (his spiritual guide/plot device/or a part of his screwy mind) returns and comforts him and Hayami returns as now they can be together purely.
Jun 22, 2013 4:58 PM

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lol so many people here thinks she was hit by the train which didn't happened. Nowhere where stated or shown that she is dead or something. They just wanted a little mindfuck in the ending but overall it wasn't really worth the watch. This could be so awesome if this was done like Higarash but mehh.
Sep 10, 2013 2:38 AM

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Man... the last two episodes completely fucked the story up. I was ok with the part with him imagining that he was able to see, but the way the story told and played it out was complete trash (IMO).
Sep 25, 2013 6:07 PM

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DemonHunterSaya said:
I liked this series, but...

I don't understand why Hayami died. Why would she get hit by a train just like Hirose's mother? It doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone explain? :o

EnduringInsanity said:
I don't get why she died, when she got to the boy she kinda just hugged him and looked back and waited for the train to hit her. She could have just pulled the boys hand back. Also at the end does she come back as a spirit or is she real?

No, she doesn't. Watch this scene one more time - she was an another rail.
But he through that she died. When his emotions gets better, Hayami just returned to him.
rsc-plSep 25, 2013 6:16 PM
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Oct 2, 2013 4:09 PM

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Episode was wild with him being really messed up calling his girlfriend mom but hey a weird series with alot of holes for one where was everyone's parents besides the stupid thug kids and their stupid male dumb parents? I saw uncles and grandfathers but alittle information on why someone would send his blind son to his older brother. Was he an alcoholic after his wife died? I think it was stupid for hayami or whatever her name to run over and hug a kid while getting hit by a train and a dumb blind kid who just had his eyes closed saying he blind can finally see again. Question did Hayami actually avoid the train and just said fuck raising a kid that's my age acting like a dumbass baby while he suppose to be my man. Shit she wasn't grown working paying bills when she was suppose to be in school. I was glad grandpa got arrested and I think the end showed how fucked up in the head the blind kid was by falling in love with an imaginary Hayami or the Hayami who made your ass think she was hit by a train but left your ass. Oh yea also his pedophilia thoughts running though his head happy to see otoha.
Oct 18, 2013 3:37 AM

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now that I look back upon this ending, it was such a disappointment... ugh, It honestly feel like Hayami didn't really develop as a character and still retained her introvert nature
Jan 16, 2014 2:40 PM

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maybe she did not jump front of the train, maybe she jumped to the other side & did not get hit by the train? its possible, we did not see all what happened, we did not see train smashing her like when u drop water bomb, & we did not see blood any ware, so anything is possible
Jan 17, 2014 5:32 AM

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I don't quite understand the ending. But Otoha is a spirit and she bring Kohinata with her to see Hirose which hes the only one who can see spirit. it only make sense in my mind that Kohinata is still dead but because Hirose is the Promised one, his ability to see spirit makes him able to see Kohinata again and for ever.

Conclusion: Kohinata is still dead but only Hirose can see her in her spirit form.

Hope to see another season or an OVA because i still want some answer.
Mar 15, 2014 5:50 PM

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Shitty ending. Liked the show up until the last 2 episodes.


All I learned is that bitches are getting 187ed by trains alot.
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Apr 17, 2014 10:34 AM
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O.o .... Okay this episode is really kinda full of WTF ... It's so depressing seeing Hayami died by Hirose's new awakened (again) eye... But my senses coming back to me again because that F**king Old Man has been arrested and Otoha bring back Hayami to life !! Oh btw Hirose, the grown up version, is sooooooooooo.... Bonie


Apr 17, 2014 10:44 AM
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I don't quite understand the ending. But Otoha is a spirit and she bring Kohinata with her to see Hirose which hes the only one who can see spirit. it only make sense in my mind that Kohinata is still dead but because Hirose is the Promised one, his ability to see spirit makes him able to see Kohinata again and for ever.

Conclusion: Kohinata is still dead but only Hirose can see her in her spirit form.

Hope to see another season or an OVA because i still want some answer.


What..!! Really!!


Apr 29, 2014 11:12 PM

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This wasn't an ending that I would've expected or normally liked but the way they did it was very good to me. For changing the ending to where Kohinata dies and that helps Hirose regain his sight and memory; Then bringing Kohinata back as a spirit(?), that was pretty creative. I will admit this series was good but the beginning put me in a mood where I was thinking of torture methods for people that I think my anger made some stuff unclear. All around good watch.
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May 13, 2014 4:02 AM

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Its finally over. Can't think of one good to say about this anime. Has to be the worst thing I've ever watched so far.

Even rating this a 5/10 feels too high.
Jul 31, 2014 1:40 PM
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Am I the only one who cried at the train scene? lol
Sep 3, 2014 3:30 PM
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It is true that the ending is bit confusing.
Let me explain :

Hayami dies, same as Hirose's mother, hit by a train. Hirose then recovered memory and sight ... Hotaru became the head of the village. Maki and Hajimi are the parents of that child ( http://myanimelist.net/character/7301/Hamaji_Yakumo ).
A few years passed. Otoha appeared -finally alive, as a little girl.In addition, she made a gift for Hirose: she brings Hayami back to life.
EVIDENCE :
1. Otoha said "it was hard convincing them to allow this"
2. Otoha also said "take care of her this time" which means that he must be alive because if she was a spirit that would make no sense at all.
3. We see Hayami grown up. Spirits don't grow up.

I hope i managed to explain.
8/10 for the episode.
Dec 8, 2014 7:00 PM
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Well im just happy it ended that way. i would of been really upset and angry if it let it go with his Girlfriend/ mother just die haha.
Dec 13, 2014 8:43 PM
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lets add another wtf can u remember when the whole hinata hotaru ordeal went off and at the end of that hirose asked otoha if she was coming back to life an i believe she she said something along the lines of people from the past should stay in the past if that true why did she bring hamayi a couple of years later wouldnt that technically make her a person from the past this series was ok very predictable at times especially ep 12 get done in by a train was super predictable n guessing thats when he would get his site back totally obvious shit even things they said were predictable but is she a spirit now like otoha or real human again the only advice we got on that subject was watch her properly this time so 6/10 the ending was stupid its nor an ending when it leaves people with simple questions
Dec 13, 2014 8:52 PM
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and when you bring people back to life usually they are the exact same age not grown up like hell sing fang says but to me she looked like a kid still shewas even weaering her old school uniform and who is maki my brain doesnt recollect her so much for trying to save a child by huggin it the could of easily gone under the guard rail or even over it the show was proper messed up plot wise
Dec 27, 2014 9:12 PM

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In the end, it wasn't even the Kohinatas who drove Hirose's mother to commit suicide. Wow, now it just makes all the things that happened over the past few episodes even more unforgivable. At least that grandfather got what he deserved. Wonder what about the other villagers as well.
Damn... Hayami didn't deserve to die like that.

Hamaji actually had a baby with Maki?! And he still chooses to remain a trap.

The last part where Otoha comes and suddenly Hayami appears felt kinda forced. Like a sudden 180 when you thought that it was all over.
I mainly see the animes... so don't blame me for not knowing about the Manga/LN
Dec 28, 2014 10:52 AM

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I'm all for happy endings, but seriously WTF happened in this episode?

This series was a mess.
May 19, 2015 1:58 AM
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I want to say is that I just finished the hole anime ins one go. The VN does have as equal but I dunno if that's equal would work as anime season 2 due to I don't know where the second game take place. I do wish that there is an OVA or some kind or a season two to tie up some unanswered question. Due to um still confused on ha yami being spirit like otoha. I'm giving it 5 due to I really like the story as hole.
Jun 10, 2015 12:08 PM
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I don't even know what to think if the ending other than WTF.
Nov 17, 2015 5:11 PM

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I didn't expect it to be so good. Ending might've been a bit WTF, but I'm happy it turned out this way, tho last scene could use kiss, hug or even holding hands - anything other than standing in place and looking at windmill o.O
Jun 25, 2016 8:30 PM

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It was overall a good story with a wonderful ending ~ :D .
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Aug 26, 2016 10:15 PM

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Ok I'm extremely confused. What the hell just happened? I don't want to say I'd rather her die and end the series off like that but she just comes out of nowhere and is alive for some reason. WTF!?!
There's no explanation whatsoever. I did however enjoy the series as a whole but this ending was just confusing and feels like they threw it in because they didn't want to get hate like from School Days.
Sep 23, 2016 2:39 AM

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Pretty weird ending. Kinda reminded me of Clannad but I didnt get any sense of satisfaction over this at at all.

I think the anime started off pretty good. Despite its subpar art and animation quality, especially around episode 7 onwards, I think the drama was okay. The last few episodes killed it for me though. Hirose being whiny and all. I understand that his dead mother was involved but after lecturing the others about bullying Hayami, when he they told him his mother died because of Hayami's family he started blaming her as well. Now that's just being a hypocrite. I think that's the wrong way to approach the matter. It would have been better if they showed him overcoming his suffering without too much whining and just cut out hitting Hayami.

I know Im not the only one confused about the ending but what Im more curious about is, why the heck does Hirose still have a girly voice? They should have at least gotten a male voice actor for the last scene. Reminded me of Naruto's cringey adult voice. Hayami's voice was already cringey but it became 10x more cringey when he was showed to be an adult with the same voice.

Overall this is still kinda a watchable anime. It had a lot of flaws but I've seen worse.
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Oct 1, 2016 10:23 AM

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I hate when most of you guys gave a low score, just because of the ending.. I mean, come on, there's still many points that you guys can judge, not just the ending..

for me, overall is 7.. scored by all things that i judged, not just the ending.. i can approve if the ending isn't the typical that everyone wanted to watch.
In many points, this series was so good, especially the drama. I think it's not a typical story that can come out in that year.. but this is it.
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Jan 9, 2017 3:56 AM
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They "killed" her off only to bring her back for a few moments later lol.

There was never a reason for her to die plot wise.You are better off pretending that never happened.

Just make it such that he snapped out of it,and pair them up.

Great anime, just pretend that stupid shock factor moment never happened.


Feb 10, 2017 2:05 PM
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Last night I decided to marathon H20 for my first time since originally seeing it a few years back. Back then, I found myself very confused and bothered by the ending. Here it is, a few years later and it all seems to be fitting into place while re-watching it and the ending seems not too strange at all to me (maybe, I've watched wayyyyy too many anime since then).

The way I see it, while there are many things to question there's one thing said that answers it all, when we first meet Otoha and she refers to herself as the Spirit of Time. It seems she is the one responsible for everything that happens not to just heal Hirose and Hayami but also the whole village and what it has become. She gave Hirose time to see which she told him not to waste due to nothing being permanent. He used that time to heal Hayami. She in turn healed him. I'm pretty sure there was no child at those train tracks just a ghost of the past that Otoha conjured up to show Hirose what actually killed his mother. She used the shock of Hayami's death in an identical way to his mother's death to break the psychosomatic wall that was causing his blindness. It seems to me that the whole reason of making him able to see in episodes 2-11 only to him and nobody else was Otoha's lead-in to this moment. To bring back his will to see after in episode 1 we only saw him accepting his blindness. When Chibi Otaha returns there's recognition on his face he realizes who Chibi Otaha actually is. It's obvious by the look on his face the boar scene must be Otoha's way of reminding him of a past meeting between the two of them (especially when her Mother call's to her). Otoha being the Spirit of time not only gives Hayami back to Hirose but both are now healed and Otoha makes the message clear (I got her back for you so don't screw it up again! Protect her this time!). As others pointed out, if she wasn't really back there would be no need for him to protect her. Now the next question ...

Did Hayami actually get hit by the train of was it another "It's a Wonderful Life"-style moment presented to Hirose like those 10 episodes of vision. Otoha is his guardian angel, after all, and a spirit of time so this would definitely fall within her wheelhouse.
Mar 18, 2017 8:24 PM

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Damn. That ending. Really, what a rollercoaster of a show. IMO I can't believe a VN adaptation was this good. She died? No, she came back!

8/10 teetering on 9.

Damn it, someone pick up the VN TL already!!!
Mar 28, 2017 11:22 PM
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Well, the story was kinda bad, forced and tiresome, most characters were really stupid and all of the sudden the plot forced them to act normal, but then again they are forced to be stupid one last time.

Additionally, WTF with that ending, I don't care if the VN explained this better, I'm taking what I saw in the anime as my base. So.. you as a god, makes him see how his girlfriend is killed by the train the same way his mother died just to get his senses back? Wouldn't that make things worse? That doesn't make sense at all!

The story wasn't all that bad, it had certain things I liked, for example that little "plotwist" was interesting. In the end, some mediocre drama that you can use to spend some time on a weekend.


The last scene was cute tho.
May 8, 2017 11:12 AM

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Wow i had a lump in my throat for a while near the end, canon wise she is alive right? Her 'death' was weird as fuck and not clearly shown at all or explained in a satisfactory way to make it look like she was even hit by the train, its all like suggestion...

I guess i'm happy if she IS alive and they have happy life together, but it was a bit of a mess really.
Jul 10, 2017 11:01 AM

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dude i swear i'm cry these last scene
I don't care
Sep 11, 2017 9:54 PM
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Just watched it and what confuses me is she was on the second set of tracks but the train came on the first set as what I could see so I'm a bit confused how she ended up dying in that seen?
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Those who are confused and are in need of answers read below please, hopefully it helps


The anime overall was deeper than I expected. Each time a problem was solved, a new unexpected one was introduced. Most of the hate and confusion people express about this anime is due to lack of imagination or not giving it enough thought and looking back at previous episodes. I can't really find these plotholes in the story. I'll just counter/explain some things people have said and share how I perceived this anime.

1. We don't see these characters parents.

- We do. At the festival, the village council, preparing before the typhoon and the fathers of the 2 Yui followers in the farm. Can't expect the anime to detour and go house by house showing us irrelevant parent characters for no reason.

2. Hayami is too young to work, take care of mentally ill Takuma, the characters show behavior not pertaining to their age.

-It's all about the artstyle. The characters look like lolis or way younger than what they really are. They are teenagers. In high school people can have 16-17 years....thats more than enough age to work at some places...

3. Why would they send Takuma to a far away village to heal his illness? Why would his father send him to his brother?

-His father had to deal with the loss of his wife, now his son ended up blind without medical explanation. Most likely he couldn't handle it (same as Takuma couldn't handle his mother's death) and simply chose its best to send him to his trustworthy brother for a while in a countryside place closer to nature. Quite normal to send off ill people to such places. Pollution, dangers, stress from the city life doesn't really help.

4. So much WTF and magic!

-Yes, there are supernatural stuff but not as many or as senseless as some people want to make it seem. I'll list them here:

A. Hinata's/Otoha's spirit roaming around Takuma, being able to ''heal'' his vision for a short amount of time.
B. Episode 8, Which can be simply be explained as Hinata's/Otoha's spirit creating a custom made dream for Takuma before she can completely pass on to the afterlife in peace after seeing the story/prophecy her sister Hotaru
made became true.
C. How Hinata/Otoha was reincarnated as a daughter of one of the village's family.
* D. How Hinata/otoha bought Hayami back to life. ( I'll explain below how this didn't really happen.)

5. Takuma could see or couldn't?

-Yes, no and yes. Best way to explain this is that his eyesight illness is actually a mental one and nothing more. When he was little he was able to see, then he lost his mother which traumatized him. It seems he had relapses and in one of those he ''lost'' his eyesight. Notice how this repeats itself when he relapses again due to Hayami bringing up the topic to him. Then Otoha ''heals'' him for a period of time. It is shown to us that in reality he did never recover his eyesight. We have to keep in mind the anime wants to show us the point of view of the protagonist, but if we look at this story from an outside perspective, the anime is just showing us the train of thought of that mentally ill boy as HE sees/perceives the world around him. In other words what was shown to us from episode 2 to episode 11 is how he thought things happened, but in reality it wasn't exactly like that. This is proven in one of the last episodes when he has a moment of clarity and realizes that Hayami told him indirectly that she knew he couldn't have peeped her because of his lack of eyesight, and apologized afterwards. In his mental state, he believed, or imagined that he could see, that everyone simply accepted the fact that he regained his eyesight and interacted with him as such, but in reality, his friends had to help guide him, did bought up the topic when needed, helped him walk and such. The evidence is in his school notes and in the beach party picture in which its proven that he never really saw. How things really occurred from episode 2 to the first half of 11, is how episodes 1 to last part of 12 happened, with his difficulties to move around without sight. After accepting what has happened to him and overcoming his trauma completely he does really see again for the first time in a long time. The anime is showing us an illusion for the most part, and this is why people get confused and think there are plotholes.


NOW, about Hayami's ''death''.


Things to note:

-Hayami wouldn't just grab a child and kill herself with him.
-If you watch episode 12, it CLEARLY shows how she was standing in the farthest away railroad, and how the train passed by the closest railroad.

Being as Takuma basically fixed her life, she couldn't be more grateful, and as such she wanted to pay back the favor. When Hayami learned about Takuma's past and evident cause of his trauma she did whatever she could to help him, even if at that moment it was simply to support him and take care of him in his old house in Tokyo. Same as Takuma, which at some points in the anime did step by step help Hayami, then thought he couldn't do anything else and then was able to do something MORE to truly help. Hayami when she had the chance to do give that EXTRA mile to help Takuma heal, she took it. Was the perfect moment, scenario and time. At some point Takuma must have told her how her mother took her life (train). Notice how Hayami guided him near the railroad and suddenly bought up the topic about her real mother, stopped the role playing and tried to make him understand that his mother must have died saving him. In that exact moment, a boy happened to pass by playing with a ball. The boy wasn't necessarily in immediate danger, but she took the opportunity to re create the scene to make him realize, by simply rushing to the boy and holding him by standing in the farthest away track, as if to stop him from going back the the dangerous one which is the closest to Takuma one. As the train passed by she moved away with the boy and then decided it was best to disappear from his life for a while until he completely learns to accept both ''deaths'', his mother and her fake one. As time passed by and he completely healed, she determined it was time to go back into his life, both happy, both stronger and both without main traumatic issues. Basically he helped her, then she helped him.

Some final clear ups:

-There is a high chance that the uncle didn't say the truth about Takuma's mom death because it would have just made it worse for him by making him think he was the one that got her mother killed by playing with the ball by the train tracks. Wasn't the moment and time to straight out let him know of that. Or simply since he was a member of that village he was told the fake version blaming the Kohinata's. Pretty sure Takuma's father knew the truth tho.

-I can easily see Hayami being able to hide herself from everyone else, since she is too used to live alone in isolated places. After the train scene she simply went back to her old life style until it was time to go back to the village.

-Notice how she smiles when the train is about to pass by. It is because in that moment Takuma called her by her name ''Hayami-chan''. She realized that her plan worked and that he was heading in the right direction to completely heal. She was just happy for him.

-Reincarnated Hinata/Otoha's words about bringing her back to life could simply be that she didn't want him to know what Hayami really did what she did to cure his illness at that moment. She pretended to bring her back to life to have a way for him to believe what happened at that moment. Later on Hayami would explain it to him. It is shown how the H2O characters have a sort of spiritual connection to each other. I wouldn't ignore the idea that Hayami talked to his uncle first, and found out about named Otoha in the village, same as the spirit Takuma told her and Hotaru about, and that this girl(Otoha) and Hayami talked before presenting herself to him after so many years. Same as there's a link between the story Hotaru drew as a child and how it became reality, while Hinata/Otoha took part in it as a spirit.

*-If you notice, all of Otoha's supernatural actions didn't really occur. It is proven he never recovered his eyesight when Otoha said she did, episode 8 was a dream and she never bought anyone back to life. Again as I mentioned before, the anime shows us how the ill teenager Takuma perceived the things happened. In reality Otoha was just the spirit of dead Hinata giving him that spiritual and mental support he needed. It shows how she didn't really have to make supernatural things happen for him to improve and recover, it was all by himself and his will power, thanks to the cheering and support he had from this ''ghost'' and his friends. That's one of the main lessons from his anime to begin with so it fits perfectly.




I know this is just how I understood the anime but hope it helps some people understand some things, clear doubts and shed some light about the plot of the anime. After analyzing it and understanding what H2O really wanted to portray I gotta say I loved it.
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It is Hayami? She die or nah xD.
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