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Mar 23, 2010 3:19 AM
#81
They're gonna license something popular...? Really? Well guys, let them wallow in it. Doesn't look like no harm's coming to us... yet. |
Mar 23, 2010 3:28 AM
#82
Eh it's not like they Dub good anime anyways. But too bad the shit will get shittier. |
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Mar 23, 2010 3:35 AM
#83
... damn...and here i thought i was free from their slaughtering of anime... apparently not |
Mar 23, 2010 3:45 AM
#84
Seriously, does anyone even "know" the name of the show 4Kids licensed? And by "know," I mean has anyone ever heard of, watched, or is aware of who fansubbed it? Heck, does anyone even know where the show was broadcasted? I'm going to assume the answer is a no. |
Mar 23, 2010 5:05 AM
#85
Hypeathon said: Seriously, does anyone even "know" the name of the show 4Kids licensed? And by "know," I mean has anyone ever heard of, watched, or is aware of who fansubbed it? Heck, does anyone even know where the show was broadcasted? I'm going to assume the answer is a no. So, do you? |
Mar 23, 2010 5:39 AM
#86
hahaha wtf, tai chi whoring card game fantasy shonen mixed-cultural generic child-game show with digimon tamerz vibe? I dun care. Generic choice comming from 4kidzzz. |
Mar 23, 2010 5:58 AM
#87
Seriously, I hope they only licence shows only 4 kids if they're afraid of needing censoring something. also it has to be long, I think. recent shows/franchises are e.g. jewelpet, thriller restaurant, shugo chara, battle spirits: Shounen gekiha Dan, yumeiro patissiere etc. (I think Fairy Tail is too bloody for kids) precure francise could be work too. if they license short (or actually normal with 26 episodes) ones and 13+ ones, I think basquash, the upcoming heroman, weiß schwarz, ukkari penelope (maybe to kiddy?), element hunters, Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica (that anime with the QUALITY van); heck, they can even get K-ON! cause it's one of the most innocent animes japan offers. And they're all popular (if not, it's among the kids only) Thinking back when Viz Media manipulates dubbings to fit mouth movings, they got many hatemails and now stopped using that software. (I dunno what software). Maybe 4kids will appreciate these opinions too? (I have a hunch that they fired some people in these years too.) |
Mar 23, 2010 6:56 AM
#88
Really... wow. I thought I understood that 4kids wasn't "appreciated" 'round these parts but I wasn't expecting the beginnings of a NERDRAGE threadnought over a show that it seems about 25 people watched. So what if 4kids license it? You'll still download and/or keep the fansubbed episodes illegally. So what if they have to ink out a few guns? Blame your absurd American society where they feel they have to spend huge amounts of money to avoid censors and busybody parents breathing down their necks. So what if they remove references to death? Hell becomes "Home For Infinite Losers"; Death becomes the nebulous "Shadow Realm"... this changes the plot how exactly? So what if they change a few names here and there? The Japanese ones are going to get mangled by the VAs anyway, so why not save them the headache of cycling through different accents to get the nuances right and just give them something that an American can easily pronounce? Does localisation (yes, it's localisation, not "butchering" - get over yourselves) offend you that much? Stop watching cartoons, go learn Japanese and buy the DVDs in their original language. That way, you can watch what you like and you have a marketable skill. Win-win. Me? I'll just enjoy listening to their retinue of experienced voice actors and script writers who don't output like machine translators. |
Mar 23, 2010 8:15 AM
#89
ILPPendant said: Really... wow. I thought I understood that 4kids wasn't "appreciated" 'round these parts but I wasn't expecting the beginnings of a NERDRAGE threadnought over a show that it seems about 25 people watched. So what if 4kids license it? You'll still download and/or keep the fansubbed episodes illegally. So what if they have to ink out a few guns? Blame your absurd American society where they feel they have to spend huge amounts of money to avoid censors and busybody parents breathing down their necks. So what if they remove references to death? Hell becomes "Home For Infinite Losers"; Death becomes the nebulous "Shadow Realm"... this changes the plot how exactly? So what if they change a few names here and there? The Japanese ones are going to get mangled by the VAs anyway, so why not save them the headache of cycling through different accents to get the nuances right and just give them something that an American can easily pronounce? Does localisation (yes, it's localisation, not "butchering" - get over yourselves) offend you that much? Stop watching cartoons, go learn Japanese and buy the DVDs in their original language. That way, you can watch what you like and you have a marketable skill. Win-win. Me? I'll just enjoy listening to their retinue of experienced voice actors and script writers who don't output like machine translators. By god! Someone actually stood up for them! You don't seem to realize just how much editing 4Kids do. For one they actually took out an entire scene from Yu-gi-oh just because it had Joey punching Yami. They chop out any bits of story that seem too "risky" to put in. It's ridiculous. The only thing I ever approved of their edits was the name changes. Joey, Tristan and Tea just sound better. Personality I don't like the idea of them coming back but as long as they stay the hell away from anything I care about then it's fine. (By the way, not a chance Index would get taken. Too much to censor. By the time they would be finished with it then it would be 13 episodes long.) |
Mar 23, 2010 8:22 AM
#90
why won't they leave us alone and stop screwing up Animes, Sonic X could be so much better T_T |
Mar 23, 2010 8:28 AM
#91
I sure hope that 4Kids licenses Element Hunters, the new yu-gi-oh crossover movie, the rest of yu-gi-oh GX, the original yu-gi-oh series (Season 0), and finish off any unfinished dubs of anime they did. I'd rather have FUNimation license Fairy Tail then 4Kids, at least FUNi would make it uncut and unedited, not to mention the english dub VAs would be better than what 4Kids has to offer. |
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Mar 23, 2010 9:29 AM
#93
AidanAK47 said: For one they actually took out an entire scene from Yu-gi-oh just because it had Joey punching Yami. They chop out any bits of story that seem too "risky" to put in. It's ridiculous. The only thing I ever approved of their edits was the name changes. Joey, Tristan and Tea just sound better. Yeah! And don't forget the invisible gun that Pegasus's men pointed at Kaiba 8D Or the invisible one Keith pointed at Pegasus. "MY FINGER OF DOOM WILL SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD." ...LittleKuriboh did such a good job at making fun of that fact. I can really see Shugo Chara getting targeted, and if so, probably only the first season, unless they're actually serious about dubbing anime this time. Wait, 4Kids is never serious about anime dubbing. What was I thinking. We're all fucked. Baby_Naruto said: I'd rather have FUNimation license Fairy Tail then 4Kids, at least FUNi would make it uncut and unedited, not to mention the english dub VAs would be better than what 4Kids has to offer. I can see Viz grabbing Fairy Tail before Funi tbh. And if 4Kids got a hold of it, well, we can assume it would end up like One Piece when they had it. ....and Funi took it. What do you know. There were only a few shows that 4Kids had that I really liked. YGO...and POKEMON. What I wouldn't give to make it so Pokemon was back in their possession...then we'd have our awesome intros back that are actually LONGER THAN 20 SECONDS AND NOT SUNG BY GIRLS. Oh, and actually sound GOOD again. As in, something you can dance to. Pokemon USA= FAIL. |
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Mar 23, 2010 9:57 AM
#94
LinaInverseLover said: hopefully they will get shows suited for them..like card game anime that haven't been subbed by anyone would be perfect ^^..anything else is a bit more of a stretch. Shugo Chara may be able to work depending.. examples: Live on Cardliver Kakeru Bakegyamon Battle Spirits: Shounen Toppa Version If 4Kids gets the license to Shugo Chara, my sister will die since they are going to ruin it I say that Shugo Chara should go to Funimation :] |
Mar 23, 2010 12:06 PM
#95
u guys shouldnt blame 4kids, u should blame american society for being so convervative lol |
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Mar 23, 2010 12:54 PM
#96
Raypture said: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-03-22/4kids-adds-toei-tai-chi-chasers-fantasy-tv-anime They call it popular but I've never heard of it Oh, god. What are they rui--- oh, it's generic shonen shit. Sure, go ahead. |
Mar 23, 2010 1:08 PM
#97
ILPPendant said: Really... wow. I thought I understood that 4kids wasn't "appreciated" 'round these parts but I wasn't expecting the beginnings of a NERDRAGE threadnought over a show that it seems about 25 people watched. So what if 4kids license it? You'll still download and/or keep the fansubbed episodes illegally. So what if they have to ink out a few guns? Blame your absurd American society where they feel they have to spend huge amounts of money to avoid censors and busybody parents breathing down their necks. So what if they remove references to death? Hell becomes "Home For Infinite Losers"; Death becomes the nebulous "Shadow Realm"... this changes the plot how exactly? So what if they change a few names here and there? The Japanese ones are going to get mangled by the VAs anyway, so why not save them the headache of cycling through different accents to get the nuances right and just give them something that an American can easily pronounce? Does localisation (yes, it's localisation, not "butchering" - get over yourselves) offend you that much? Stop watching cartoons, go learn Japanese and buy the DVDs in their original language. That way, you can watch what you like and you have a marketable skill. Win-win. Me? I'll just enjoy listening to their retinue of experienced voice actors and script writers who don't output like machine translators. Uh actually their edits have nothing to do with American censor laws, it's just them being stupid and making ridiculous edits in attempt to make it overly kid friendly, Also Japan isn't much different in respects to censoring then America either. Japan has been on a moral censorship crusade for the last 10 years. Your lucky if you get to see panties anymore. |
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Mar 23, 2010 1:33 PM
#98
Ugh, bad news bad news. What's the point, there just going to be getting the same style of anime they've been getting. More card battle monster games. |
Mar 23, 2010 1:49 PM
#99
NikuiKira12 said: Best leave it to the pros_Me_ said: FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK!!! |
Mar 23, 2010 1:51 PM
#100
Wait, if they licenses DMC. Oh that would be pure carnage O_O |
Mar 23, 2010 2:30 PM
#101
hahaha dropped 37% of incomes! but that's a bad news! animes will be licensed >< |
Mar 23, 2010 2:46 PM
#102
Mar 23, 2010 5:44 PM
#104
desolato said: Hypeathon said: Seriously, does anyone even "know" the name of the show 4Kids licensed? And by "know," I mean has anyone ever heard of, watched, or is aware of who fansubbed it? Heck, does anyone even know where the show was broadcasted? I'm going to assume the answer is a no. So, do you? UH YES?!!! *laughes* I kinda posted it a couple of pages ago dude! For the record, I don't mean to come off as a pompous ass, but so many people have gone instant nerdrage, that I don't think anyone bothered to check what was the name of the show they acquired! hypeathon said: I seriously need to ask all of the people screaming like vicious, locked-up pussies over this announcement. Do any of you even know the title that 4Kids acquired? I'll give you a hint... nobody has even heard of or talked about this show! |
Mar 23, 2010 6:24 PM
#105
If its going to be this Taichi Senjimon thing I'll be happy, but just don't touch One Piece or something like this. Funi are enough already with the stupid dubs |
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Mar 23, 2010 6:57 PM
#106
soregashi said: If its going to be this Taichi Senjimon thing I'll be happy, but just don't touch One Piece or something like this. Funi are enough already with the stupid dubs Just so you know, I would like to share my brief response to your personal opinion about Funimation. Either you shut it or suck it! That is all. |
Mar 23, 2010 9:45 PM
#107
I don't see what the big deal is. Even if they did get some popular titles that people actually cared about, it's not like you'd have to watch it or the Japanese version would be phased out of existence. |
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Mar 23, 2010 9:58 PM
#108
sugoi |
Mar 23, 2010 10:41 PM
#109
Mar 23, 2010 10:51 PM
#110
I'm a little disappointed that 4kids are taking anime titles again. But I don't watch them except for to see how badly they edited it. If it is an anime I like, I'd continue to watch the fansubs. It just makes me feel a little disappointed to know I'll not be able to buy it on DVD so long as it is under their control. Also, if it gets popular it will only be an embarrassment to anime, and lead those non-anime fans to think all anime is like that. 4kids givng anime a bad rep is why they are hated so much. At least they don't appear to do all the cease and desist orders like Funi do. They know that fans of the original won't like their butchering so let the fansubs and stuff slip by. Original anime fans are not ther target audience anyway, so they won't be missing out. They only target children between the ages of 1-10. I've never heard of the series they have licensed, so don't really care at this point, but they'd better stay away from the good, popular anime. Though hopefully they learned their lesson with One Piece. No more taking anime for much older kids and dumbing it down to their age range. There hasn't really been much that they can market really. Maybe they could get Chi's Sweet Home, but they'd have to edit out all references to Japanese lifestyle and edit in American ones.. Yumeiro Pattissiere might market well to young girls. It is aimed at that level in Japan anyway. |
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Mar 24, 2010 6:01 AM
#111
KayChan4U said: Baby_Naruto said: I'd rather have FUNimation license Fairy Tail then 4Kids, at least FUNi would make it uncut and unedited, not to mention the english dub VAs would be better than what 4Kids has to offer. I can see Viz grabbing Fairy Tail before Funi tbh. And if 4Kids got a hold of it, well, we can assume it would end up like One Piece when they had it. ....and Funi took it. What do you know. There were only a few shows that 4Kids had that I really liked. YGO...and POKEMON. What I wouldn't give to make it so Pokemon was back in their possession...then we'd have our awesome intros back that are actually LONGER THAN 20 SECONDS AND NOT SUNG BY GIRLS. Oh, and actually sound GOOD again. As in, something you can dance to. Pokemon USA= FAIL. 1.) Viz dubbing Fairy Tail? I'll believe that when I see it, lol. 2.) I loved 4kids dubs for YGO and Pokemon too. |
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Mar 24, 2010 10:20 AM
#112
I definitely think this is cause for concern! I think we're all right in saying that no one gives a shit about the generic anime they're currently working on...but what if it sparks interest in the US? 4Kids and inflated egos go hand in hand. I don't think it's unlikely that they will get ahead of themselves and search for more popular titles. History will just be repeating itself. They WILL eventually find more titles to assrape. ...And moving swiftly on to my nerdrage rant: Fuck 4Kids! They're the reason I thought One Piece was a piece of crap; I had to be very much coerced into giving it a second try. They constantly give the wrong impression of anime to non-anime fans, massacre good dialogue, and stop good series from getting the following it deserves! They need to stop acting as if a mob of moral police are waiting to jump them at every corner, or stop taking anime for older audiences and fucking it up in a botched attempt at localising and censoring. THANK GOD D.Gray Man is way too dark a shounen for them to even attempt at; there would only be 20 episodes after the censoring! They better not touch Kuroshitsuji, Reborn!, or Ookiku Furikabutte (lol they'd have to redo almost all of Tajima's dialogue). [/rant] |
Mar 24, 2010 5:22 PM
#113
Even if they do mess up some anime shows, it will still be 10 times better than what they are showing now on 4kids. I'm glad they are going back to anime |
Mar 24, 2010 5:44 PM
#114
Who cares? I don't watch anything 4Kids would dub anyways. They're called 4Kids for a reason. |
Mar 24, 2010 6:35 PM
#115
May 3, 2010 6:33 PM
#116
Mariejoanna said: Seriously, I hope they only licence shows only 4 kids if they're afraid of needing censoring something. also it has to be long, I think. recent shows/franchises are e.g. jewelpet, thriller restaurant, shugo chara, battle spirits: Shounen gekiha Dan, yumeiro patissiere etc. (I think Fairy Tail is too bloody for kids) precure francise could be work too. if they license short (or actually normal with 26 episodes) ones and 13+ ones, I think basquash, the upcoming heroman, weiß schwarz, ukkari penelope (maybe to kiddy?), element hunters, Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica (that anime with the QUALITY van); heck, they can even get K-ON! cause it's one of the most innocent animes japan offers. And they're all popular (if not, it's among the kids only) Thinking back when Viz Media manipulates dubbings to fit mouth movings, they got many hatemails and now stopped using that software. (I dunno what software). Maybe 4kids will appreciate these opinions too? (I have a hunch that they fired some people in these years too.) K-ON! would be met with death threats to the management of 4Kids. 4Kids isn't as dumb as people think they are, they know what people think of them. Knowing that, there's no way they even think of taking something as insanely popular as K-ON! Plus, music isn't their strong suit, it would be a disaster. Can't say I'm thrilled by this since I am a part of the 4Kids must die fandom lol. Some of the suggestions made in this thread for possible targets I get, but some make no sense for 4Kids. Index would be quite difficult for 4Kids, though I am intrigued as to what they would do with Touma touching the Walking Church lol. Could be humorous to see the censorship on that scene. If they are smart, they stay away from Dengeki Bunko based anime's, though most of those seem to be getting scooped up by Funimation for some reason (with horrendous results). Just my thoughts |
May 3, 2010 6:38 PM
#117
Oh dear, it's the end. 4Kids was better off far away from anime. |
May 4, 2010 7:13 AM
#118
May 4, 2010 3:14 PM
#119
May 4, 2010 9:39 PM
#120
Slypheristic said: LinaInverseLover said: hopefully they will get shows suited for them..like card game anime that haven't been subbed by anyone would be perfect ^^..anything else is a bit more of a stretch. Shugo Chara may be able to work depending.. Please don't let it be Shugo Chara. PLEASE. Slypheristic said: lol, Shugo Chara is the one show I can see 4Kids scooping up because no one has touched it yet, but even then they'd heavily censor some of it for children's audiences. Plus season 3 would be unairable due to the format. Could be interesting to see what they do try to liscense, might throw people by surprise, but probably not. |
May 5, 2010 8:18 AM
#121
4kids may try to get Pretty Cure again and that would be the worst day ever, 4Kids didn't even have the decency to keep the original names when they planned to get their AIDS ridden paws on it, Nagisa and Honoka are very simple names to remember. |
May 12, 2010 3:39 PM
#122
It's good to see them going back to broadcasting cartoons from japan. If it wasn't for the show's they showed on Fox when i was in school,like one piece,mew mew power,do-re-me...ect.I would not be into stuff from japan today. This will make the new generation anime fans as it did us. I would say if you are over 11 you should not care what they show on TV.. Seriously it's called "4KIDS" NOT "4ADULTS" only a idiot would watch what this company broadcast expecting something unedited..and untouched.. Is America really that dumb? |
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May 12, 2010 4:05 PM
#123
Jigero said: ILPPendant said: Really... wow. I thought I understood that 4kids wasn't "appreciated" 'round these parts but I wasn't expecting the beginnings of a NERDRAGE threadnought over a show that it seems about 25 people watched. So what if 4kids license it? You'll still download and/or keep the fansubbed episodes illegally. So what if they have to ink out a few guns? Blame your absurd American society where they feel they have to spend huge amounts of money to avoid censors and busybody parents breathing down their necks. So what if they remove references to death? Hell becomes "Home For Infinite Losers"; Death becomes the nebulous "Shadow Realm"... this changes the plot how exactly? So what if they change a few names here and there? The Japanese ones are going to get mangled by the VAs anyway, so why not save them the headache of cycling through different accents to get the nuances right and just give them something that an American can easily pronounce? Does localisation (yes, it's localisation, not "butchering" - get over yourselves) offend you that much? Stop watching cartoons, go learn Japanese and buy the DVDs in their original language. That way, you can watch what you like and you have a marketable skill. Win-win. Me? I'll just enjoy listening to their retinue of experienced voice actors and script writers who don't output like machine translators. Uh actually their edits have nothing to do with American censor laws, it's just them being stupid and making ridiculous edits in attempt to make it overly kid friendly, Also Japan isn't much different in respects to censoring then America either. Japan has been on a moral censorship crusade for the last 10 years. Your lucky if you get to see panties anymore. "Broadcast Decency Enforcement Act of 2005"...you live in the country and don't even know it's laws?... |
May 16, 2010 10:17 AM
#125
May 22, 2010 8:29 AM
#126
hopefully 4kids can start doing good dubs again |
May 22, 2010 10:15 AM
#127
supersonic124 said: hopefully 4kids can start doing good dubs again I doubt that will ever happen again. |
Jun 15, 2010 2:01 AM
#128
Wow, I mean I don't like what 4kids did to One Piece either (I think their Pokemon is perfectly fine given the nature of the show), but it's not like any of us will be strapped to a chair and forced to watch whatever they acquire. How many of you people complaining that they'll "butcher your favorites" watch anything dubbed in English at all these days? I bet the only reason most of you even know what they do is because you were introduced to anime through their shows and only found out about the edits later, but you were a kid when you watched it so you didn't care. It seems Shugo Chara! is the show people are the most afraid of them getting. How many of you would watch that in English even if a good company like FUNimation acquired it? Sure, I don't want 4kids to get Shugo Chara! either, but that's because I actually watch English dubs of anime (That and my favorite part about the show, Utau and her love for Ikuto, would very likely get censored in some way) and would want to see that show done by a company I trust. It's just ironic that people are always complaining about things like this when it wouldn't change your life at all (aside from the rants in topics like these) if you didn't even know this was happening, or if it was happening in a different way. Oh, and everyone hating on FUNimation needs to cut the shit. Their dubs are actually good, but you people can't see that because you're too busy fapping to the Japanese language. Damn weeaboos. |
Jun 15, 2010 2:19 AM
#129
ITT: People hoping 4kids won't pick up series it'll never pick up in the first place AKA "HURR DURR I HOPE 4KIDS DOESN'T PICK UP MONSTER THAT'D BE SHIT" Honestly, the stupidity present in this thread is through the roof. You make it seem like 4kids doesn't have an audience to cater to, and that most of their actual dubs are horrible. Without mentioning a re-dubbed opening song, can you people name me one other dub done by 4kids, other than One Piece, that has been technically bad. As in, translation and story (and, psst, Sailor Moon was DIC, not 4kids). You kids haven't seen bad, you should go a knockin' on Nelvana's door. |
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