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KinetaNov 25, 2012 10:59 AM
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Rio! Don't leave! T_T is my first impression and so a GIF=> Let's all stand up, salute and T_T for Rio sempai! Salute! Kanata cried more than ever in this episode and it affected to sympathize with her with these GIF=> Now I will try to see what I learned in point format because there is a lot to say: -Rio was born out of forbidden love so I assume that her father was someone important and the mother was a women he managed to get in bed......since I do not see any contraception she was born. -They managed to put some nice fan service but unlike before it was well placed. Like Rio's=> -Yuuko was introduced as being the daughter of Martin...who is the shopkeeper himself (was interesting to know). => - Jacott lived in the mountains for 50 years? O_O That means she went through the war itself. -The spider tank's legs are found (in some junkyard? Also liked the details of the legs) and it's being completed=> -Roma army is moving in East border...anyone know how far are they from Seize city? This does mean war might be coming. -Iliya was to marry the Emperor of that Roma but he had 2 wives before so Kureha does not like it looks from her reactions. -6 month time frame from episode 1 of Kanata coming. -Lady Jacott's story is similar to how Rio might have been born. Jacott's story had the feelings nice to her story. I am assuming this was a hallucination Jacott was having that she was young and her lover was coming back to her but it was the light when people as they die=> -Wonder why Rio burned that letter but I do know now that she hates kids because Iliya saved one from drowning in the river with her own live and since then politics are bad with the peace conferences going bad. Second time I T_T at the trumpet sound but it was in honor of Jacott's death=> |
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| I think we'll be getting another season (hopefully) That potential is there to bring it from an albeit good anime, but kinda cutesy, to an awesome anime. |
| -I'm not 100% sure what the old lady had to do with the first part of the story, but it was very sad at the end. I didn't think this would get that heavy, illegitimate children and all that. -Noooo Rio, don't go! Even though I kind of figured this would happen anyway. -"A Burning Field of Snow." Snow on fire is never a good thing. Thus, I look forward to next week. |
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HanzoMittori said: Half sister......I am assuming more now since I though about it....that Rio's father in his travelings did it with her mother but never came back to see her at one point but Iliya did as what we saw from a previous episode so that is why they showed Jacott's story to associate with Rio's. So what i get from this touching episode is Rio is the sister of the princess so i cant till next week for to happen notpctrprfct said: It would great if they end it with all the girls going into war and start a second season with that....showing clearly it will not be a cute anime anymore at all....I think we'll be getting another season (hopefully) garfield15 said: garfield15.....are you thinking.....war, war and big war since that tank is almost done......oh you got me excited there. I hope it happens so we can see spider tank in action with its missiles.-"A Burning Field of Snow." Snow on fire is never a good thing. Thus, I look forward to next week. |
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| This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Her reason for leaving probably has to do with either A. assuming a more active role in the military as a commander or B. assume her role as one of the princesses. Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. |
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Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. |
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francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. |
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Wasabi said: Yeah that's what I though since Jacott's story was a obvious reference but that's too bad because it would have been more epic to see how Rio's story was than a civilian story like the one of Jacott the only good part about it was they introduced the daughter of Martin who is that shopkeeper but still not really intriguing that was.francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. |
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| I was sleepy for the first half but the second half sold me. I hope Rio dies; seriously. That would be really dramatic to see her fight like a Spartan then die horribly. Unfortunately for me, that ain't going to happen. |
Maximatum99 said: Who knows she might come back like Iliya and find all dead except for maybe Kanata...now that is epic too if it happens.I was sleepy for the first half but the second half sold me. I hope Rio dies; seriously. That would be really dramatic to see her fight like a Spartan then die horribly. Unfortunately for me, that ain't going to happen. |
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| Seems to me there was alot more money saving shots in this epi than in all the others. Still-pans, Stills with light washes, and stills with snow overlays, all cheapo anime tricks. Did they top out their budget? |
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Wasabi said: Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Maximatum99 said: I hope Rio dies; seriously. That would be really dramatic to see her fight like a Spartan then die horribly. ^This^ I want fucking moe tragedy, that would so awesome. And I did not expect Rio to be a princess. |
| Geez...old lady dies and my favorite character leaves? *sigh* -.- And I'm not sure if it's just me, but I tend to skip the "Amzing Grace" trumpet ensemble... |
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| Another moving episode. I wonder how this will play out with Rio gone. |
-Hei- said: I want fucking moe tragedy, that would so awesome. HELLZ YA that would be totally awesome and I think its going to happen especially with Rio leaving most likely due to something with the peace treaty not going well and the army in the east on the move. |
kg-san said: Asu you're still a fragile flower... But its ok cause you're a beautiful flower! 花火花火花火 :D:D:D |
| I am geting bored of this portray of man-in-power to always have a fling on a side that will produce a child with a touching story at the end. And what up with the whole:" she was supposed to get married to some dude from Rome, to smoother the relationships between countrys". What is this a 16th centuary? Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. |
| Best episode for me so far. I almost cried when Rio Left T.T |
Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. |
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| In my humble opinion this episode was the best one so far... moreover - that was first episode that had no boring fillers and was pretty interesting. Now I no more regret that I started watching this series, though - still, I had expected a little more from this anime in overall. Well, let's wait and see what further episodes will show us. |
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garfield15 said: Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did? |
| The big was they had, was that with the Roma army? If so, what about those bird-thingies we were hinted at in Filicias episode? Nice ep anyway. |
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Starbrow said: Logic says that even I seeing movies of that type see that 75% of the time it involves it and that no man's land shows that too......right?garfield15 said: Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did? |
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| "I won't die that easily" Gee, I'd never have guessed she was going to die at all -.-' Its quite hard to feel emotional over something so predictable, they might as well have just tell you she was going to die. |
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Wasabi said: francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. and I think Kanata is the child that Iliya saved in the river. Notice how in the Kanata's flashbacks of Iliya, Iliya is always soaking wet |
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Starbrow said: What are you? 12? Little thought can answer that. garfield15 said: And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did?Starbrow said: Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution.Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. One example is if the knowledge stored in books and computers are destroyed, how can future generations get back that information? In a couple of decades from maybe isolated colonies, they eventually forget about it since the smart ones may not have survived to share the information. It is hard to adapt a modern civilization to a primitive environment. |
Maximatum99Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM
| A very nice episode full of story. I was almost expecting something more but I think I just want too much too soon. I'm very much looking forward to how the story will pan out now. (Hope there's some tragedy....I just love emotional roller coasters). |
Scr1be said: Yeah but there is no indication that it was Rio....could have been Rio just knowing or seeing that scene herself.....I did not see her blame herself of something like "If I would have been dead instead if Iliya" because that would indicate a lot more.....can you give more indications that you remember from previous episodes?Wasabi said: francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. and I think Kanata is the child that Iliya saved in the river. Notice how in the Kanata's flashbacks of Iliya, Iliya is always soaking wet |
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Maximatum99 said: Starbrow said: What are you? 12? Little thought can answer that. garfield15 said: And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did?Starbrow said: Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution.Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. One example is if the knowledge stored in books and computers are destroyed, how can future generations get back that information? In a couple of decades from maybe isolated colonies, they eventually forget about it since the smart ones may not have survived to share the information. It is hard to adapt a modern civilization to a primitive environment. I see so because it isnt stored anywhere, people will suddenly foget the " Human rights": No slavery. Women right to vote. Labour Unions. Universal jurisdiction Humanitarian Laws Democracy. In our generation Humans rights isnt something your learn from a book its soemthing you are already born with. So you cant just simply close the book, and forget about it in a month or two, its the way of life. Man you got to think more positive and have more faith in humanity. francismeunier said: Starbrow said: Logic says that even I seeing movies of that type see that 75% of the time it involves it and that no man's land shows that too......right?garfield15 said: Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did? Movies are a poor guide to real life. francismeunier said: Scr1be said: Yeah but there is no indication that it was Rio....could have been Rio just knowing or seeing that scene herself.....I did not see her blame herself of something like "If I would have been dead instead if Iliya" because that would indicate a lot more.....can you give more indications that you remember from previous episodes?Wasabi said: francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. and I think Kanata is the child that Iliya saved in the river. Notice how in the Kanata's flashbacks of Iliya, Iliya is always soaking wet I have my doubts about it. Since it happend 2 years ago, Rio couldnt have been called a "child" they would have said a "girl" for sure. |
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Starbrow said: I see so because it isnt stored anywhere, people will suddenly foget the " Human rights": No slavery. Women right to vote. Labour Unions. Universal jurisdiction Humanitarian Laws Democracy. In our generation Humans rights isnt something your learn from a book its soemthing you are already born with. So you cant just simply close the book, and forget about it in a month or two, its the way of life. Man you got to think more positive and have more faith in humanity. I thought you were talking about intelligence and not morals. However, it depends on the type of society. Notable religious cultures in various countries may not seem morally sound to you, even in this modern time. It doesn't only take an apocalyptic theme to change humans to barbarians. Although... morals are evolutionarily hardwired into us but it takes "indoctrination" to bend it. Getting off topic from the anime discussion but you get the idea. |
Starbrow said: Not true because some movies are documentaries that show IRL information and IRL situation like Fahrenheit9/11. |
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francismeunier said: Starbrow said: Not true because some movies are documentaries that show IRL information and IRL situation like Fahrenheit9/11.Lol Farhenheit 9/11? Are you serious? |
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Wasabi said: Just a example but there are also WW2 movies that have part facts from history like Pear Harbor or Midway.francismeunier said: Starbrow said: Not true because some movies are documentaries that show IRL information and IRL situation like Fahrenheit9/11.Lol Farhenheit 9/11? Are you serious? |
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| And she leaves. What now? |
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| BORING. So, instead of doing the interesting dramatic choice of showing Rio's struggle to make a decision, and know what that entails, we get a magical story of how she's a princess, and now she has a job to do. But she has to say goodbye to the protege that we only saw her teach once. Am I really supposed to be moved by this bland bullshit? The show didn't really bother to create relationships, strong characters, or anything; so to see Rio lay around for a little, then wax about how she is able to make this nebulous decision because Kanata came in and changed her life is absurd. This is the most vapid, trying-to-be-high-minded show I've seen in a while. |
| It was like, "So you found out about how I'm related to the princess ? I'm leaving, bye now". Learning the trumpet in this anime consists of 1. desire to play it. 2. having a self discovery experience. 3. Now you can play Amazing Grace ! (is that the only song they know ?) 4. Two people who know how to play Amazing Grace can be stationed together. and what with the old lady storyline it felt out of place. I want to see Kanata getting head-shot when the war breaks out (then I'll give this anime a 10 :P ) |
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| ^^^ What noteDhero said... I agree entirely. Character development is going in very horrible direction. There wasn't really much build of between those 5 unbelievably naive military chicks, and one of them is leaving, so what?... I'm not touched, I'm not moved, not a single bit. Also, everything going on doesn't make sense. Even though it is slice of life style anime, this is just no. I was keep saying... 'Trying to be deep with shallow and weak basis of the whole concept'. |
noteDhero said: Well it worked for me but they could have made it better with more details....the problem is that they did not develop Rio as much as Kanata. Like I said before instead of doing Jacott's story they could have focused on Rio and one of her half sister.The show didn't really bother to create relationships, strong characters, or anything; so to see Rio lay around for a little, then wax about how she is able to make this nebulous decision because Kanata came in and changed her life is absurd. |
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| Trite episode for a trite show. Still waiting for blood and guts and warfare. :c Starbrow said: I see so because it isnt stored anywhere, people will suddenly foget the " Human rights": No slavery. Women right to vote. Labour Unions. Universal jurisdiction Humanitarian Laws Democracy. In our generation Humans rights isnt something your learn from a book its soemthing you are already born with. So you cant just simply close the book, and forget about it in a month or two, its the way of life. Man you got to think more positive and have more faith in humanity. Well yeah they will be forgotten. I mean, Athens was a (sort of) democracy, and we totally managed to forget that for near enough two thousand years. We are not born with ideas as technical as those, and even if we were, that wouldn't ensure that society actually implemented them. Case in point: most any human can conceive of world peace, and nearly all of them would prefer it to war. Yet there's only been around twenty-something years of that in total throughout human history despite this universal consensus. And world peace is a great deal less specific and narrow than those ideas you tout. So. Faith in humanity? Are you talking about the same humanity we all know and love? As far as I am concerned, So Ra No Wo To is very far to the idealistic side of things. |
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| Huh, the best episode so far, and i'm pretty sure it would be the best of all, since Rio left... |
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| I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. |
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Tatynin said: Your description is way too simplistic to the concepts involved for liking this anime.I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. |
Tatynin said: Someone can't understand the joke. I'm struggling to understand why being stonehearted is ever to do with this show.I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. We don't like show; not because of lack of blood but because of its senseless advance and boring development, read things carefully before calling others stone hearted. |
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Tatynin said: I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. Here is my own personal view on why I am so disappointed with this show: I saw the trailer for this last year and the impression I got from it was that it was going to deliver a somewhat profound war drama even if it has moe character designs. The music, the captions, the montage of the art in the trailer was telling me that it wasn't going to be super happy. But what did I get for the last 10 episodes? A story about a bunch of little girls living it out in some quaint little town making friends. The "drama" has yet to fully surface at all. The only episode that it remotely even showed off anything about the "war" was in episode 7 with Felicia's flashback. I was not expecting massive gore, massive action, but I was expecting a war drama, which this show has failed to deliver so far. If the trailer had instead showed a more slice of life approach with cheery music, then maybe I would see this show for what it is and then be relatively excited and surprised at the finale if it so chooses a dramatic end but no, I did not get what I was expecting from it. And this show suffers from generic storyboard flow like most other shows of this length. Over half the show is nothing but the characters living out life with absolutely nothing going on with a poor amount of character development going on and then a rushed ending. |
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