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12-26-11, 1:56 PM

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Seabury said:
Seriously, I didn't even think the anime was that great *until* the ending. I can't fathom what you all are whining about, because honestly this is one of, if not the, best endings I have ever seen in an anime. Are you that addicted to closure that when a masterpiece open ending slaps you in the face, you don't even notice? Pah.

This.

While I did like the series when I was watching it,(besides the event with Nosferatu Zodd, which I thought was very great), I never seen what the big fuss for this series was. After the last few episodes, though, my opinion shot upward a great deal. What a great ending... it really leaves you hungry for more.

Sadly, I have to read the manga now. Between this and having to read the D. Gray Man manga, I don't know what i'm going to do...
 
02-08-12, 4:08 PM

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Was laughing hysterically over how "cliffhangery" this episode is.This is like the most unfinished anime I've seen lol. It feels like the story just started with this last episode.

Definitely need to read the manga now that the story got more interesting.

Oh and fu Griffith. Never liked you from the start and probably never will.

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02-26-12, 2:20 PM

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Perfect way to attract people to manga :3

Indeed it is! Great work with that if you ask me :)
 
03-04-12, 11:13 AM

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Wow what a depressing episode. I had to take a break after Judeau died and Caska was captured ;^; Damn. Watching the characters I've grown to love get killed, Caska getting raped, and Guts being held down so helplessly. Not sure how I feel about Griffith after all this either...

The cliffhanger was pretty funny though. Just hafta read the manga~
 
03-13-12, 11:56 AM

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I never liked Griffith from the start and probably never will
 
03-25-12, 6:09 PM

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last two episodes were queit possibly the two worst episodes of anime I have ever watched, and it wasn't because of the plot or any of the things people complain about.

what actually happened?

1) the hawks found out they were going to be sacrificed
2) the hawks were sacrificed
3) griffith 2.0 was born

why the fuck did that take 50 minutes to explain?
fucking awful. talk about dragging on.
the worst was when they repeat exact sentences over and over again. Ruined the whole series for me.
 
03-31-12, 8:25 AM

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I guess I'm in the minority here but I thought the ending was pretty good, great even. These last few eps were easily the highlight of the whole anime for me. Sure, there was a lot of unexplained/unresolved stuff but I don't really mind that much (and I certainly don't like shows where every little minute detail is spelt out for the viewer leaving no room for individual interpretations).

Already started reading the manga as well (from the very start), and so far I haven't been disappointed.


 
04-09-12, 3:25 PM

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No! no just no! I can't believe this is the ending!! how come and why?!?!?!! o.O
I feel so empty inside >_< I really can't describe how i feel right now!

I hate Griffith!! he must die!! omg no i don't want to say anything, i'm afraid he will pop up to me and kill me or...... >_<

and Casca ;-; I feel bad for her! why everyone just LOVE to rape her??! and right in front of Guts!! thats so cruel!

but why it ended like this?! why they made a REMAKE of the anime and not adding more episodes to it or adding to the story!

I'm so upset hfff -_- I can't say it a bad Anime but it has a bad ending!
 
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04-15-12, 8:25 PM

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luvyuyu said:
No! no just no! I can't believe this is the ending!! how come and why?!?!?!! o.O
I feel so empty inside >_< I really can't describe how i feel right now!

I hate Griffith!! he must die!! omg no i don't want to say anything, i'm afraid he will pop up to me and kill me or...... >_<

and Casca ;-; I feel bad for her! why everyone just LOVE to rape her??! and right in front of Guts!! thats so cruel!

but why it ended like this?! why they made a REMAKE of the anime and not adding more episodes to it or adding to the story!

I'm so upset hfff -_- I can't say it a bad Anime but it has a bad ending!

Probably cuz that isn't the ending????

Duh.

It's well known that the 25 episode 90's anime only covers 10 volumes of the currently 36 volume on-going manga lol. Go read the manga.

The anime should be considered a sneak peak of the manga. The manga is where it's at.
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04-20-12, 9:34 AM

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W.T.F i was so... i cant even say what is going into my head right now just WTF...WTF!! this is as bad as Phantom ~Requiem ending it just has you saying WTF!! but it is a bad ending but FU#$ing good if you know what i mean if there was a new ep and it was on sale for like a $10,000 i think someone would have got it but all in all it is one of the best WTF moments in anime history and that is good with me
 
04-21-12, 9:58 AM

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That was trippin' balls. Almost made my score a 10 because I'm weird like that.
 
04-22-12, 12:18 PM

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Worst. Ending. Ever
But I enjoyed watching Casca get raped by demons so it still gets a 9/10 for me
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04-24-12, 6:18 AM

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Bloodcalibur said:
luvyuyu said:
No! no just no! I can't believe this is the ending!! how come and why?!?!?!! o.O
I feel so empty inside >_< I really can't describe how i feel right now!

I hate Griffith!! he must die!! omg no i don't want to say anything, i'm afraid he will pop up to me and kill me or...... >_<

and Casca ;-; I feel bad for her! why everyone just LOVE to rape her??! and right in front of Guts!! thats so cruel!

but why it ended like this?! why they made a REMAKE of the anime and not adding more episodes to it or adding to the story!

I'm so upset hfff -_- I can't say it a bad Anime but it has a bad ending!

Probably cuz that isn't the ending????

Duh.

It's well known that the 25 episode 90's anime only covers 10 volumes of the currently 36 volume on-going manga lol. Go read the manga.

The anime should be considered a sneak peak of the manga. The manga is where it's at.


Yeah I heard it has an extra episode but they couldn't make it because they had some problems?
Anyway I'm reading the manga and really enjoying it!
I even played the game on ps2! love it
 
05-27-12, 11:38 PM

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the manga continues it? i'm excited to hear that.

the ending wasn't satisfying in the slightest, i even went back and watched episode 1 (which clearly takes place after episode 25) and i really couldn't make sense of anything.
 
05-28-12, 10:38 PM

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nqthing said:
the manga continues it? i'm excited to hear that.

the ending wasn't satisfying in the slightest, i even went back and watched episode 1 (which clearly takes place after episode 25) and i really couldn't make sense of anything.


Yeah you can read the rest in the manga which is way better than the Anime.

There is a movie as well which covers most of the manga, check it out.
 
06-03-12, 6:10 AM

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06-11-12, 8:38 PM

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W..what the FUCK. Caska getting raped was too much for me. My god... what a horrific scene... your lover getting raped by monsters then to be raped by your best friend in front of you while helpless.................................................... horrific indeed.

Not sure what I feel...
I feel so much hate towards the demons to victimize Griffith and the Hawks. Scumbag demons.

Griffith is not to blame people, it's the demons. Griffith is a character that should be pitied imho.
 
06-18-12, 11:22 PM

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Pretty good show. Time to read the manga.
 
06-23-12, 7:47 PM

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NOOO! NOT LIKE THAT! It can't end like this!!! I've heard of the infamour ending of Berserk, but this was on a level of a different kind! It0s like ending something at its most climatic of climaxes! Damn, that was really argh, there is so much left to be told. Anyway I was ready for it, it just means I need to pick up the manga at some point so that I can continue this amazing story.
 
06-29-12, 9:21 PM

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The motivation behind the last 5 or 6 episodes brings this anime down. Griffith the obvious emo homosexual can't handle his slave boy toy leaving to carve his own path rather then dwelling in his shadow so he fucks a little girl causing himself to be tortured for a year. During the torture he goes mentally insane and dwells over Guts "betrayal" even though Guts returns with the rest of The Hawks to save him.

I'm being a little harsh on purpose but I want others to understand how stupid this is. Maybe I'm just being logical and actually thinking,which a lot of people in this anime never seem to do.

I don't even mind that we are basically sucked into a demon world at the end but none of it is explained. To me it's typical generic crazy japanese bull shit. Tentacle porn, demons, etc. I was numb to it for the most part, I felt bad at times but it was laughable more than anything seeing our side characters get killed off so easily.

I'm not a fan of unanswered questions, especially in something that seems so grounded in a set reality for the most part(other than the visit from the battle god demon) but explaining why these exist is important from separating yourself from the generic other anime monsters. Which this doesn't do.

As a whole even before the anime went full retard with Griffith the anime was a 7 in my eyes. I almost want to bring it down lower after how pointlessly illogical this ending was.

It's obvious the anime wants to push it's central themes of destiny, dreams and free will or lack there of but to me this was done very poorly. Shocking doesn't mean it's good and to me it wasn't even that shocking, I was numb to the madness. It was out of place and unwarranted. Even if the eclipse was predestined to happen and all the events throughout the anime were planned out ahead of time it still doesn't explain the demon world, the little red charm that Griffith wears, why these demons rarely interfere with the human world, etc. They vaguely go into Griffiths choice in his path to get the castle, which was neat but doesn't explain much it was just an interesting way to show what we already knew in a graphic way.

Anyways, I'm disappointed with this anime. I didn't expect it to be great but I also didn't expect to slap my intelligence in the face and spit on it.
 
07-23-12, 12:09 AM

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Upped my score from a 7 to an 8/10. I found this anime in my head a lot after watching it originally, I thought quite a bit about the story and Guts and Griffith. I put a lot of hours into playing a pretty awesome Berserk mod for Mount & Blade. I watched the series a couple more times over the last year and a half and even got my normally anime-avoiding brother to watch it and he loved it.

So yeah, gave it a bonus point for being stuck in my head for so long.

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The motivation behind the last 5 or 6 episodes brings this anime down. Griffith the obvious emo homosexual can't handle his slave boy toy leaving to carve his own path rather then dwelling in his shadow so he fucks a little girl causing himself to be tortured for a year. During the torture he goes mentally insane and dwells over Guts "betrayal" even though Guts returns with the rest of The Hawks to save him.

I'm being a little harsh on purpose but I want others to understand how stupid this is. Maybe I'm just being logical and actually thinking,which a lot of people in this anime never seem to do.


You can talk about logic but are people always logical and of sound judgement? Griffith was emotionally shattered after the twin events of Guts "abandoning" him and his first ever defeat. Rather than being stupid it was a very human turn of events.

Should Griffith be grateful Guts rescued him? You say it like you think so, but it's not hard to see from Griffith's perspective that Guts is the reason he spent a year being mentally and physically destroyed in a dungeon, the reason his dream was taken from him. He's had a nightmarish year to focus his hatred and despair on one person. Then after that rescue while he was a cripple with no future he saw his former soldiers cheering on Guts and treating him the way they used to treat Griffith. He saw Caska very close to Guts when she used to practically worship the ground Griffith walked on. Salt in the wounds and reminders what he'd lost.

And even that said if Griffith could've talked he would've warned Guts off when the Eclipse was starting. When Guts fell from the altar Griffith reached out for him. He still needed a little push from the Godhand to become Femto. He was a mix of emotions, just as he said while in the dungeon in his voice over about Guts being his anchor.

So I just want to offer some friendly disagreement, I don't think the story or the characters suddenly got stupid. They were just sadly human that's what makes this story so damn good and tragic.
 
08-28-12, 8:07 AM

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lol not surprised so many ppl not satisfied with the ending!
 
08-29-12, 8:02 AM

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Man what a great show! The ending was...less than ideal but hopefully the movie remakes I've heard so much about will tie things up better.

Things got really really fucked up for the finale and that's what was so great about it! All those demon characters, I wonder if they will be "bosses" that Guts faces down the line. And to see all the Hawk comrades get killed off one by one I liked them all, yes even Gaston, I followed him through the whole show!
 
09-22-12, 10:05 AM

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What a horrible ending.
 
10-20-12, 5:52 PM

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griffith, you asshole, biggest asshole since mokoto from school days, no even worse? well he let his comrades die who just saved him, then raped his best friends love, yeh sorry probably worse. that was nearly tentical rape there wasn't it haha. but wow, not sure whether to rate 9/10 or 10/10 this anime was so enjoyable i just watched it way to fast, i really hope the manga is as good, but i think there are some things about fairies that they left out at the begging of the anime, you remeber the girl in the bar in what i think was the first episode, she was a fairy in the manga. not sure how different it will be overall, lets see! (i don't think i have ever written as long post on a series discussion before :S )
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10-30-12, 4:47 PM

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LOL, reading some of the comments before me and it seems everyone enjoyed the series (I sure did). The ending even though it was not ideal, was great. It leaves us at a big climax in the story and would have been great to start up another season after the events of ep 25, but tragically the anime stopped. All we can hope for now is the manga to have the conclusion and for the movies to tell the story after ep 25 and so on.

Btw for those who don't know the manga is still continuing and the movies are coming out.
 
11-05-12, 3:16 AM

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the manga is a million times better than the anime and the anime is still a classic. Go read it and DON'T SKIP ANY ARCS, which includes the ones that the anime covers. You'll regret it big time if you do.
 
11-12-12, 4:51 AM

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I'm going to go well against the tide here and say that I absolutely loved the ending to the anime. Everyone will experience something in their own way, but to me, I interpreted the last two episodes of Berserk to be some of the best true horror that I have ever encountered. The way everything you've come to know throughout the series is utterly obliterated at the end is one of the most accurate Lovecraftian-esque horror settings that I can think of.

I can understand why people wouldn't enjoy it, but I also think that the way you interpret something is massively dependent on what you are expecting to get out of it. Those that have read the manga and were expecting the story to continue on, would obviously be disappointed - and rightly so. The same can be said for those who had simply watched the show and were pulling for their favourite characters.

But if you didn't enjoy the ending, but have an open mind, I recommend getting your hands on some Lovecraft material then going back and giving it another go. You might find other amazing elements to the ending that you had previously missed.
 
11-20-12, 3:27 PM

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Not happy with the ending at all. If you can call this an ending. Guts escaped somehow after cutting off his own arm and losing his eye. Casca got raped by a demon-griffith. The entire band of the hawk died. WTF
 
11-20-12, 3:30 PM

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Not happy with the ending at all. If you can call this an ending. Guts escaped somehow after cutting off his own arm and losing his eye. Casca got raped by a demon-griffith. The entire band of the hawk died. WTF


Trust me, manga is better understandable - and it's also explain how he did escape.
 
11-22-12, 12:14 PM

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After hearing many great things about the Berserk manga from a friend, I decided to check out the anime (since I don't read much manga). I have to say, Berserk was a great watch. It's just too bad that the ending left out Guts' escape.

This would have been one of his greatest feats of strength throughout the series and they decided to just leave it out. He lost one eye and one arm while surrounded by demons who want to eat him. All his friends have been killed and his lover(Casca) gets raped in front of his eyes by a man he used to call friend.

We all know he escapes due to the first episode. So we are all sitting here thinking "Oh boy, how the hell does he get out of this?" That thought goes through all our heads just as soon as we see everyone dying. Then....it just ends. I mean, that was kind of a slap across the face.

Some people have said that they possibly ran out of money, but I don't buy that. I believe this was a deliberate ending to the anime. The way it ended with him leaving the blacksmith made it seem like they ended it that way on purpose.

As to why? Don't have an answer to that yet. Some say that it was to advertise the manga. Possible, but to make a whole anime series just to advertise the manga seems a bit much in my opinion.

That said, Guts was a really likable character and a badass. Guts' way of walking his own path makes him so manly. He doesn't want to cling to other people's dream (Griffith's) and he chooses where he goes and who he fights.

The Band had some interesting characters too, but, other than Casca, they didn't get enough screen time. I know they are all supporting characters, but they were interesting enough that I wanted to learn a bit more about them. Now that they are all dead, that isn't going to happen.

Got a certain amount of satisfaction seeing Griffith fall off his high horse near the end of the series. That look of shock when he lost to Guts made me crap my pants. Didn't they he would ever lose to anyone. This might be disturbing but, I was smiling grimly when the torturer was sticking needles into Griffith's gut.

Always hated Griffith throughout the anime and when he was broken, no pity was felt. Then he becomes some demon that sacrifices his friends and rapes his friend's lover right before his eyes. Great.

As a character once said, "Oh god I can't take it. I gotta kill this nut before I kill myself." Guts needs to kill Griffith not just for himself, but for me also. Bonus points to anyone who can guess where that line came from.

Hint: from an anime movie.

After all is said and done, I'll have to give this anime a 8/10. That ending didn't do it for me. It left out a major event in Guts life that we were all looking forward to seeing. We all knew he gets out and now we are left wonder how. Again, a slap across the face. If it wasn't for that, I would have gave it a 9. Oh well, I'm used to bad endings by now. It happens often enough.

Probably going to have to read the manga lol.
 
11-22-12, 9:04 PM

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Flowlance said:
Not happy with the ending at all. If you can call this an ending. Guts escaped somehow after cutting off his own arm and losing his eye. Casca got raped by a demon-griffith. The entire band of the hawk died. WTF


Trust me, manga is better understandable - and it's also explain how he did escape.


Yeah that might be true, but that doesn't make the anime better :P When I watch an anime, I expect it to be the complete story, without having to rely on the mangas to understand it
 
11-23-12, 1:12 PM

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End of Anime:That shit was great..Damn that was hell on earth..But it ended with a cliffhanger..Now I know nothing..I mean did he escape? In episode 1 he killed Griffith as I remember which means this is the end of the arc however how did he escape and stuff like that..
Hell am reading the manga in a month or so
I was going to give it a 10/10 because of awesomeness but now it's taking a 9/10..Fu**ing cliffhanger
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11-28-12, 8:41 AM

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Despite having an outdated animation, this small stretch was written by a god not the author... For me, as a story alone, the manga has nothing else better to offer... at least better than this part.
What can i call this? Masterpiece or the Best Anime made by mankind.
 
11-28-12, 8:43 AM

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Flowlance said:
Shadake said:
Flowlance said:
Not happy with the ending at all. If you can call this an ending. Guts escaped somehow after cutting off his own arm and losing his eye. Casca got raped by a demon-griffith. The entire band of the hawk died. WTF


Trust me, manga is better understandable - and it's also explain how he did escape.


Yeah that might be true, but that doesn't make the anime better :P When I watch an anime, I expect it to be the complete story, without having to rely on the mangas to understand it

But this is the point of doing anime ;P to get you into manga.
 
12-28-12, 5:28 AM

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After hearing many great things about the Berserk manga from a friend, I decided to check out the anime (since I don't read much manga). I have to say, Berserk was a great watch. It's just too bad that the ending left out Guts' escape.

This would have been one of his greatest feats of strength throughout the series and they decided to just leave it out. He lost one eye and one arm while surrounded by demons who want to eat him. All his friends have been killed and his lover(Casca) gets raped in front of his eyes by a man he used to call friend.

We all know he escapes due to the first episode. So we are all sitting here thinking "Oh boy, how the hell does he get out of this?" That thought goes through all our heads just as soon as we see everyone dying. Then....it just ends. I mean, that was kind of a slap across the face.

Some people have said that they possibly ran out of money, but I don't buy that. I believe this was a deliberate ending to the anime. The way it ended with him leaving the blacksmith made it seem like they ended it that way on purpose.

As to why? Don't have an answer to that yet. Some say that it was to advertise the manga. Possible, but to make a whole anime series just to advertise the manga seems a bit much in my opinion.

That said, Guts was a really likable character and a badass. Guts' way of walking his own path makes him so manly. He doesn't want to cling to other people's dream (Griffith's) and he chooses where he goes and who he fights.

The Band had some interesting characters too, but, other than Casca, they didn't get enough screen time. I know they are all supporting characters, but they were interesting enough that I wanted to learn a bit more about them. Now that they are all dead, that isn't going to happen.

Got a certain amount of satisfaction seeing Griffith fall off his high horse near the end of the series. That look of shock when he lost to Guts made me crap my pants. Didn't they he would ever lose to anyone. This might be disturbing but, I was smiling grimly when the torturer was sticking needles into Griffith's gut.

Always hated Griffith throughout the anime and when he was broken, no pity was felt. Then he becomes some demon that sacrifices his friends and rapes his friend's lover right before his eyes. Great.

As a character once said, "Oh god I can't take it. I gotta kill this nut before I kill myself." Guts needs to kill Griffith not just for himself, but for me also. Bonus points to anyone who can guess where that line came from.

Hint: from an anime movie.

After all is said and done, I'll have to give this anime a 8/10. That ending didn't do it for me. It left out a major event in Guts life that we were all looking forward to seeing. We all knew he gets out and now we are left wonder how. Again, a slap across the face. If it wasn't for that, I would have gave it a 9. Oh well, I'm used to bad endings by now. It happens often enough.

Probably going to have to read the manga lol.
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12-29-12, 1:17 AM

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I for one loved the abrupt ending. It feels more artsy (even if its accidental) the way that they are all devoured and then there's only a short enigmatic cut-scene (linking to the beginning).

Think of it as being similar to the "lived happily ever after" ending, that only works as long as you don't question it and try to deconstruct how the "ever after" looked like. If you do, you ruin it.

Even though I read the manga, I'd rather they not continue with the anime as frankly, I lost confidence that sensei knows where he is going with the story. The same way that I'd rather not see the sequels to the matrix made, because they didn't offer much and their very existence ruined a fairly decent ending. Still, there's always the temptation for the writer to continue a best seller, to make some mo, and a large chunk of the public seem to want to have every little bit explained to them, leaving very little to the imagination, and very little in the way of artistic understatement. Sigh.
 
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the manga is a million times better than the anime and the anime is still a classic. Go read it and DON'T SKIP ANY ARCS, which includes the ones that the anime covers. You'll regret it big time if you do.


I agree about the manga reading better than the anime watches. The action doesn't really pick up till ep. 18 when the queen is burned, and the anime feels very stretched, especially in the middle.

However, the manga has its fair share of problems and gets increasingly ridiculous as the Kushan invasion progresses. It falls into the sad cliche pattern of a childish supernatural arms race, where "I have the power of the god hand, no, I have the power to infinity, no, I have the power to infinity+1". You get the picture. This sort of thing is especially evident in DBZ and Pokemon. By the time I got to Fantasia Arc I was bored, and now it seems like the rest of the story will be ad-libbed, with no ending in sight.

You know that feeling when you have tasted something great for the first time, but then it doesn't seem so great after you've been eating it straight for a few days, or after years of eating it. Especially if you try it even once, once its starts to spoil.
 
01-03-13, 5:08 AM

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Well the ending was a total let down but I enjoyed the anime so much that I am going to try the manga. I give the anime 9/10.
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01-03-13, 5:30 AM

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Before I watched the show, I prepared myself for reading the manga afterwards. I understood the ending was not going to be complete and that the series is not complete.

I however have no complaints about this episode, or the episode before this. Only that the series is incomplete.

As an episode, this was amazing. I watched as the invincible band of hawks who have survived through thick and thin for a leader who is now useless to them are dismantled by that said leader's ambition and "dream". It was foreshadowed heavily throughout the season this would happen. Griffith gave hints when he clarified what a friend was to the princess... and that description did not describe the band of hawks. Further more, his conversation with Gutts about God and the Devil being the same entity confirmed for me that power is what Griffith respects as his religion... and in that, I knew he'd sacrifice the BoH and Guts at some point.

Then the final scene.. so much was running through my head. Why? Is it because of jealousy? It is a power struggle to show Guts who really is in charge? Was it to inflict pain on Guts or to satisfy Griffith's powerlessness which he has felt for the past year? Then how is Guts feeling? What are Casca's emotions? The man she has grown to love is watching her being pleasured by the man she has loved since day one. The man whom she sided to stay with over going off with Guts... It was all crazy for me.

For me, these episodes did not come out of the blue. Episode 1 Guts even says hes looking to kill King Griffiths or whatever.

Anyway, as 25 episodes, I rate this series 10/10. As a series... if I were not reading the manga, I would feel like potential was not fulfilled given the last episode. Then again, I could easily see the last episode simply being a dark end to an excellent series. They struggled, they fought and Griffith's dream.. which Guts tried to run from... eventually enveloped them in what is hell.
 
01-14-13, 7:23 PM

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Could this have been any more open ended? Sheesh. Still, what a great ride. All three main characters were infinitely layered and complex and they had interesting and understandable motivations. Quite a feat of storytelling they accomplished here. Well done.
 
01-15-13, 10:59 AM

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Wow, Caska getting raped by testicles. They've drawn the female body really beautiful.

I will give this series a 9 out of 10. And It was not that open-ended at all.
 
01-15-13, 11:14 AM

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Adramelech said:
Wow, Caska getting raped by testicles. They've drawn the female body really beautiful.

I will give this series a 9 out of 10. And It was not that open-ended at all.


How did Guts escape? Did Casca survive? Did Guts ever confront Griffith again? None of these things are explained. But it's OK, I started on the Manga, and I'm already like 4 chapters in, so I'll eventually find out. The Manga is even way more fucked up and violent than the anime.
 
02-08-13, 11:06 PM

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How did Guts escape? Did Casca survive? Did Guts ever confront Griffith again? None of these things are explained. But it's OK, I started on the Manga, and I'm already like 4 chapters in, so I'll eventually find out. The Manga is even way more fucked up and violent than the anime.


For me, it is a perfect ending to this part of the story. I've heard that the rest of the manga adopts a shounen style where Guts fights Apostles, finds companions and gets stronger to fight Femto. That is just really different from this flashback part which tells the story of Griffith and Guts, and I have very little interest in continuing with the rest of the story after the anime. As for Guts, I would assume that Femto simply decided to let him live, be it due to his hatred and that he wants to see Guts suffer further, or as the female demon king said, the harder the sacrifice struggles the more nourishing he will be.

The prologue of the anime has this line, "At least it is true, that man has no control, even over his own will." Which nicely sums up the Eclipse. Griffith's dream of being king was once within reach, yet as fate would have it, now even a simple, inglorious dream of having a normal family with children denies him. Besides if he chose to let go of his dreams, he would be crushed by the guilt of all those lives his ambition has already claimed. Saying that what he did was of his own will is a joke, a choice between everything and nothing is no choice at all.
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02-09-13, 4:02 PM

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A great anime! I was sort of nervous after realizing the manga is still going but it was one hell of a ride. Probably had one of the darkest endings I've seen in an anime too. I tried the first two episodes in both sub and dub. Found I liked the dub better. I already bought the Blu Ray movie off of ebay and next I'll be going for the manga.

9/10
 
02-20-13, 1:42 AM

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after re-watching the anime series *4th time*
Yes the ending leave alot of questions.. all you need to do READ THE MANGA..
i will not spoil any thing but the manga is much BETTER and you'll get all the answers you seek :D + more..
btw: **** griffith :D
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03-11-13, 6:24 PM

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lol crazy last few episodes.

i avoided watching this anime for years but really glad i gave it a chance. probably too much raping going on the last few episodes. but i gave this anime a 10 out of 10.


read a few post on here and great point, i would of liked to see how guts escaped. probably a touch less raping would of been nice as well.
 
03-26-13, 7:56 AM

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neontaster said:
Adramelech said:
Wow, Caska getting raped by testicles. They've drawn the female body really beautiful.

I will give this series a 9 out of 10. And It was not that open-ended at all.


How did Guts escape? Did Casca survive? Did Guts ever confront Griffith again? None of these things are explained. But it's OK, I started on the Manga, and I'm already like 4 chapters in, so I'll eventually find out. The Manga is even way more fucked up and violent than the anime.


This first episode shows that guts did survive as he has only one arm, and is fighting that huge snake and gets the egg back. You also see his mark that the devils gave him and they show them tormenting him.

Still alot of questions unanswered, hopefully the last movie might finish the story, otherwise i guess ill have to read the manga
 
03-29-13, 5:27 AM

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I almost dropped this anime at the start, animation quality wasn't great, didn't like the music and it was pretty slow. But the more I watched the more I started to love this show.

I personally loved these last few eps it was very hard to watch all the characters you grew so attached to throughout the series just get ripped apart and eaten. I even felt bad for Corkus and I despised him.

Overall this was a great anime although the ending does leave you wanting more its to bad they never made a second season. I may pick up the manga even though I don't really read manga.

8/10
 
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