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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 98 | 41.88% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 54 | 23.08% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 41 | 17.52% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 20 | 8.55% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 21 | 8.97% |
Voters: 234
#41
03-17-08, 10:55 PM
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I enjoyed the movie and I won't compare until I actually finish the series. Kinda makes you wonder if kyoto ani took a similar approach for the end. |
#42
03-19-08, 6:06 PM
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Animation quality is good, ONLY one problem: even when they became adults, they (Tomoya and Co) had high (or middle) school baby faces... Nevertheless, 10/10!!! Some Clannad series are boring, the story is elongated artificially. I guess, the ending of the series is gonna be something like in Air, rushed, not very clear... I hope I ll be wrong. In series, Tomoya should fall with Kyou :))) |
#43
03-19-08, 7:06 PM
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i think the series spoiled me for this movie... i thought this movie was a downhill compared to the anime. and why did they change Tomoya's voice actor but kept all the others the same... I skipped like most of the middle parts of the movie. The last part did not make me want to cry or anything but the ending is still pretty good. |
#44
03-20-08, 9:50 AM
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Definitely not as good as the tv series in animation, presentation, and character (though I liked Sunohara better in the movie than in the tv series). I haven't played the visual novel yet, but I've read on blogs that Kyo Ani botched the adaption while Toei made Clannad the way it should be. Anyway, the first half of the movie had me falling asleep, but the end with Ushio was enough to save the movie for me. Also liked the pro-life message in the end. 8/10 |
#45
03-22-08, 11:25 PM
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i was wondering what they were planning for the rest of the story when tomoyo confessed halfway through. and then they hit me with that bombshell. man, i was shocked when i saw okazaki walking depressed while saying they lived together in the apartment. that was just a real giveaway that she die..but damn..the ending was good. yeah this is an 8....good, powerful ending, but boring in some places. |
#46
03-23-08, 12:48 AM
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If you think about this movie as a form of a summary, than yes, it did well in summarizing the story. For those familiar with the series, and who here isn't..., it will seem like its rushed but thats why you have to start the movie off with a viewpoint of it being a different story. Throughout, it delivered the story. Nagisa and Tomoya meets. Tomoya and others help Nagisa get her drama club going and finishes. Tomoya and Nagisa gets serious. Nagisa dies. Tomoya, like his dad, goes through a depression but is cured with everyone's help. I can't wait until the animated series finishes so I can compare the two stories' ending. The movie was a sad one but that simple scene at the end with Ushio and Tomoya meeting made it all better. I did question the way Ushio was delighted to meet her father whom she never seen before after being born. Perhaps she was given pictures and such, but I'm pretty sure the little child would be like Tomoya was and be much more distant... Then again, if you're related to Nagisa, then you can't have any mean/bad side and must be happy all the time right? Overall, I think the movie deserved a 9. Modified by kanaka, 03-23-08, 12:53 AM |
#47
03-23-08, 8:07 AM
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Okay, let's go in parts. I watched the movie last night and while I was watching, lots of thoughts about what I'd write were going through my head, and I'll try to remember them. First, let's start with the movie as a separate unit. The art is very cute, and the colors are vivid and bright, I liked that a lot. However, there were several annoying shots, some blurry parts that made it seem as if I were dizzy and seeing double. I didn't quite like that, but I could live with it. Another annoying thing were the frozen, still images in the middle of the movie that took me back to 1995, and Fushigi Yuugi, and all old anime. Really, we're so over the still-images. However, there were some pretty good shots as well. There was this particular one, with Tomoya and Nagisa walking up the hill, and the light was shadowing them, and I just loved the effect. The soundtrack was cheesy and silly, in my opinion. At the end, when Tomoya's father told him he was just like him, the soundtrack was so corny I had to facepalm. The story was simple, they just had to do a simple soundtrack, nothing silly like that. But anyway. As for the story, we cannot even begin to consider this as an adaptation from a visual novel. This is, once again, a totally personal view of the Clannad story. As a separate story, I can say that it was simple and lovable. I personally loved Nagisa's performance, the way she performed, the beautiful wedding dress of her mother. Mai Nakahara was so serious, sometimes I had trouble seeing Nagisa speaking all of that, but she was speaking with so much emotion. I truly enjoyed it. And the ending was simply bittersweet. Now, taking in consideration Kyoto Animation's Clannad. My first petpeeve had to be Tomoya's seiyuu. I think if I hadn't seen the series before, maybe I wouldn't have found him to be so annoying. His voice doesn't drip with emotion like Daisuke Ono's and Sugita Tomokazu's lovechild, Nakamura Yuuichi. Half-way through the movie I managed to get used to him, though. Secondly, the characters. They ditched some and gave totally new roles to others. At first, I thought Tomoyo and Kyou were even going to be bad, but it turned out it was just bad choice of Toei to make them smile while talking about the incident with the posters and the student council. They were badly developed, though. I just can't see a reason why they'd stick to Tomoya's side, they didn't seem close at all. I think the biggest change in the cast that made me happy was how much screentime and importance they gave Yusuke. I really liked him in the series, and I was really happy he had a bigger role in the movie. Kouko was also a lot cooler, and less plain looking, though she had a completely different personality and role. Movie Nagisa and Movie Tomoya had the biggest changes. Movie Nagisa was much more out-going and had bigger self-steem. In the movie, the thought that "It's Tomoya that needs Nagisa, not the other way around" is pretty evident. Movie Nagisa doesn't seem the type to give up the club to the choir club and just be sad about it. She'd most likely smile, cheer the other group on, and try other ways to get the drama club, all by herself! I surely liked that about her. About Tomoya, his "delinquent" role is much more evident. When I read in the wiki, I was like "Delinquent? HIM?" KyoAni's Tomoya doesn't have a single essence of delinquent; if anything, he skips classes. Same for Sunohara. But in the movie we can clearly see a delinquent personality, a "I don't care" attitude is much evident. His relationship with his father has a different light, at least I thought so. Movie Tomoya seems to be much more of a brat, since his father actually seems to try a lot more to become friends with him, although the distant "Tomoya-kun" remains. But his indifference seems a lot more bratty than that of KyoAni's Tomoya. The dream. Although there was no girl alone in the girl, and no boy made out of scrap, the metaphore of the World of Nothingness seemed much clearer and straight to the point. The tree made Toei's World of Nothingness magical, and how the handled it, a dream that both Tomoya and Nagisa shared, finding someone who felt as lonely and needing someone else as you was truly romantic. I think it was the only truly romantic thing in the movie. And... The Dango Song. KyoAni's Dango Song is much more towards the cuteness than Toei's Dango Song. I have to say that when the whole cast as reunited at Tomoya's place, singing the Dango Song, and Tomoya looked like he wanted to get shot, I laughed pretty hard. It's also a much more upbeat and cheerful song, almost as if the Dango Songs reflected the mind of Nagisa. Since KyoAni's Nagisa is shy and introverted, her Dango Song is slower and calmer. Toei's Nagisa is much more cheerful, then so is her Dango Song. All in all, I got completely different feelings from both Clannads. KyoAni's Clannad has much more feeling, though. It's more touching, more sublime. That doesn't make the movie bad, though. As a separate unit, the movie had its charm too. It was a simple story about a boy and girl, with different relations with their family, with different kinds of motivation, but that seemed to complete one another. And after all the tragedy, all the pain, there was still a light, in the form of their child; a light that one could miss if they didn't stop thinking about themselves only, and opened their eyes to their family. I give this movie a 7. It lacks feeling, but the story that it had to tell, it did, and it did in a simple, lovable way. |
#48
03-24-08, 1:42 AM
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I don't know what's wrong with me but I like the movie more than the series. The movie gave me more impact while the series is more light-hearted compared to this. Anyway, I give this 10/10 =p |
#49
03-24-08, 10:16 AM
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This is solely my opinion but the movie is way better than the series. I agree that it was strange art and voices but i rate it seperate than the series.I can say it made my laugh more made me waaaaaaaay more emotional and explained a lot of things that the series didnt or passed without details.I really loved it i dont know what else to say.Okazakis reactions were amazing the confession to Nagisa was awesome the dream had a role in the movie and same goes with Okazakis father.... This was really a job of pros.And by that i mean that the animation sound and special effects were freaking amazing.Nothing more to say just that this was way beyong my expectations. |
#50
03-25-08, 8:02 AM
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mmm ok just watched this and i think is very gud movie. Think about the movie without comparing it to the anime, cuz of the art or the length. For me was a perfect movie in many ways, and could been better in some other ways, but the result is a well made movie by Toei: Story is a 10/10, Nagisa voice is another 10 there, the after story is touching. Also the ending is better than i expected... and Nagisa's play dress was so gud. |
#51
03-26-08, 4:44 AM
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I think the different voice of Tomoya was more fitting for the dark tone of the movie. I enjoyed the movie very much. The last part really surprised me after watching the TV series. I was a bit disappointed in the rather lame ending of the tv series, so the movie is a welcome addition. Regarding the animation: I don't think it's bad. You are just spoiled by Kyoanim. There were same greatly done scenes like the overflowing sakura leafs after the OP. Moreover the theater play was done much more better in the movie. The whole dream scenes made much more sense in the movie. They didn't really bother to explain them in the series. We just hear that he somehow knows the story of the play, too, but we never hear why. The Movie is so much better regarding the Nagisa arc. I even liked Nagisa much more in the movie. Ok, Tomoyo and Kyou were horrible in the movie. The only creepy thing was that embarrassing dango song they always started to sing out of the blue ... I would say 9/10. |
#52
03-27-08, 7:08 AM
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I prefer the animation in the series, and i also found it strange how the characters seemed to change between the movie and TV version, and how kotomi wasn't involved at all. I did prefer the play in the movie however!! We fly on the wings of the ones before us in order to say thank you at the end |
#53
03-27-08, 8:17 AM
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dotti44 said: and how kotomi wasn't involved at all. Well, in contrast to Ryou and Fuko, Kotomi got a few seconds of screentime as the conductor of the choir. |
#54
03-29-08, 12:29 PM
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I really feel sorry for his daughter that he deserted. 1. He should have taken care of her because thats what Nagisa would want (duh) 2.He missed almost her entire childhood :( and surely missed lots of happy moments 3. will they every be close or she will be kind of father-less? |
#55
03-29-08, 1:10 PM
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tmth said: 3. will they every be close or she will be kind of father-less? That was the purpose of the last scenes: to bring out his father love. You can bet that he will take care of her from now on. After all she's like a chibi-Nagisa. |
#56
03-29-08, 7:31 PM
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freedoleen said: yeah, animation was worse and there were a few weird effects I didn't like, but other than that... it was a great movie! the ending couldn't be better in my opinion. for me it's 9/10. but if I would compare movie to TV version (which I gave 9/10 for now too), it would be 8 for the movie, not 9. I don't want to compare though. ^^ and I agree - Nakahara Mai is an instant win! Hahah it's exactly the contrary for me. If I had seen this movie before the series, I would have cursed the series and dropped it after one or two eps because it's actually far weaker imo ! Now that I've seen Clannad's movie, I almost want to put a 8 to KyoAni's series instead of the 9 it has right now ;) I mean, the script of this movie (even though it's probably the same as the game) is unbelievable, the direction by legendary director Osamu Dezaki is close to perfection, the background art is great and so are the characters, who develop ten times more in 1h30 than all the characters of the series in 11 hours... If you can overlook the animation and character design, the movie is definitely better than the series. I agree that the series is more entertaining and watcher-friendly (aimed at otakus, it's a harem series after all) but that's absolutely the only things it has compared to the movie, which is brilliant, touching, deep, and much, much, much more meaningful than the series. Don't know how the second season of Clannad will be, but I don't really want to see it now that I've watched this movie :> |
#57
03-30-08, 8:06 AM
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I've never played the game so I'm stuck with the movie and the series but I have to say a few things... 1. I really didn't like the movie mainly because my favorite characters weren't in it (Fuko, Ryou, Yukine, Mei, and Kotomi) but I know it was necessary to tell the parts of the story that weren't told in the series such as the girl in the illusionary world and what happened to Okazaki's shoulder. 2. I couldn't stop wondering about Sunohara's hair. Why is it not blonde anymore? I could be wrong but didn't he say in the series that it was his natural hair color? I know, such a weird thing to get stuck on. 3. I want a Dango family! 4. Nagisa's ever present cheerfulness did make up the movie somewhat for me. I would love to have a friend like that. I wonder if Ushio would take after her mother or father? Hmm... Not enough Nagisa's in the world. 5. The series and the movie have their good and bad points and I notice you either prefer one of the other unless you think of them as totally different stories. If I had seen the movie first I'm sure I wouldn't have watched the series and I would have missed out on the characters I loved so much. In the end I'm still buying both the movie and the series because I just can't have one without the other. |
#58
03-30-08, 3:43 PM
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skyfox66 said: 2. I couldn't stop wondering about Sunohara's hair. Why is it not blonde anymore? I could be wrong but didn't he say in the series that it was his natural hair color? I know, such a weird thing to get stuck on. 4. Nagisa's ever present cheerfulness did make up the movie somewhat for me. I would love to have a friend like that. I wonder if Ushio would take after her mother or father? Hmm... Not enough Nagisa's in the world. 5. The series and the movie have their good and bad points and I notice you either prefer one of the other unless you think of them as totally different stories. If I had seen the movie first I'm sure I wouldn't have watched the series and I would have missed out on the characters I loved so much. In the end I'm still buying both the movie and the series because I just can't have one without the other. 2. Well, as far as I remeber, he only had black hair after he started working!? I wondered about that, too, but told me that maybe he had it dyed, because of work. Maybe blonde would be too outstanding. 4. I think she is just like her mother: a real chibi-Nagisa! She is very very cute! 5. Well, if I had watched the movie first, I would still have watched the series just for it being a KyoAni/Key work, but I think I would have been very afraid of the end. Let's wait for After Story. Then I can say if I think the movie is unnessecary. But right now I think it had its own charme. Only bad aspects were the unfunny comedy and that collective singing. |
#59
03-30-08, 4:40 PM
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Sunohara's hair is the same color as his sister's, black/blue. So he really dyed it when he was at school, and stopped after he graduated. That's the only logical explanation, taking in considering that he's a delinquent, and bleaching the hair is a somewhat rebellious attitude. |
#60
04-02-08, 10:25 PM
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The movie is great (except the part that Nagisa dead) Let's hope something like that doesn't happen in the series (the after story to be precise) |

















