Love the series, but confused by the ending
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03-08-08, 8:20 PM
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I just watched the entire thing (minus the recap eps) on DVD. The ending confuses me now as much as it did when I saw it on Adult Swim four years ago. At the very end, did any of them actually reach Paradise? Was there even really a Paradise? We see the four wolves alive in a new world at the end. Were they reincarnated, or was the whole story kind of rebooted and they would have to go through it again and again? *confused* |
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03-29-08, 1:20 PM
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I was really confused too! but in the reviews i read for the story it said that the world is rebornand the 4 wolves are reborn, while Cheza is that flower at the end, but i think that was a very confusing way of doing it! plus, if the world was going to be reborn shouldn't they have put it back to a state that wouldn't have caused it to die again? coz surely a modern day world would cause polution again, so maybe it is that they are going to have to go through it again! i heard that the series was going to have a 3rd series, but i don't think that happened, its a real shame. |
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03-30-08, 5:39 PM
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A third season might have elaborate on the ending a bit better. |
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03-30-08, 7:09 PM
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I believe that the four wolves chosen by cheza appeared in paradise. Also, theoretically, the four wolves had to die along with Cheza before the world could be recreated by Cheza. So as a whole, the world will have to find another Cheza, willing to sacrifice herself to recreate the world, and another 4 wolves. Or there won't be a 3rd season... because everyone is dead... and paradise isn't exactly paradise with people in it... |
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04-11-08, 4:55 PM
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But weren't the wolves recreated at the end in the new paradise? so technically they'd only need to find another lunar flower like Cheza. |
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06-05-08, 6:23 PM
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Have any of you watched the OVA's? They are the real ending. There are 4 of them and they run about 20 mins each. They pick up where episode 26 leaves off. You only live once. |
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06-05-08, 6:32 PM
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Yeah. It's the OVAs that left me so confused. |
#8
06-09-08, 9:06 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2008 Posts: 144 |
the boss of wolf's rain club : ))) posted such a link in the one of the topics, maybe it will help you :) : http://www.animeyume.com/wolfs_rain/wrending.html |
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06-10-08, 5:21 PM
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The ending was well executed, in my opinion. It turns the idea of paradise around by suggesting that paradise is in fact the world we currently live in. So it's kind of suggesting we are all incarnations of wolves who have now entered paradise. It's quite ironic, isn't it? But the ending was perfect, in my opinion. ![]() |
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06-10-08, 5:42 PM
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And for another thing, why was Blue denied entrance or reincarnation? I know she's not a full wolf, but isn't she close enough? |
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06-24-08, 2:28 PM
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Good find Jumikao. That really helped me understand the ending I appreciate the link. :) |
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07-03-08, 12:10 AM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 284 |
That's a good link, but the author takes some of the dialogue and references in the show a little too literally in his interpretation. He misses the point that, while Kiba indeed searches for Paradise each time he is reborn, he doesn't realize that Paradise is actually _this_ world, flawed as it is. It's not another world or the image of a perfect Eden that they were chasing. As we see in earlier episodes, Kiba already visited such a place and that proved to be a false Paradise, just a barely grasped dream. The real Paradise was to be found on Earth, if they had the strength to seize it (i.e. "the world is what you make of it"). In showing the wolves along with the Lunar Flower again, who is herself a symbol of hope, the show ends on a hopeful note, that the wolves have an opportunity to start anew and carve the world that they want. At least this is the impression I got. I think the ending as interpreted in that link would be not just anti-climactic but also against the grain of the whole show (which despite the gloomy setting does actually feature hope as a prominent theme). |
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07-16-08, 4:55 PM
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I haven't watched Wolf's Rain in a year or two, but how I interpreted the ending was that in their attempt to reach paradise, they, essentially, "failed." The world was recreated, but because of the poison/corruption, it was not a true paradise. Over time, the 'paradise' became the same exact world they were living in. The four of them shown near the end just shows that the world did not change and the search for paradise continues. The focus of the anime was their struggles and adventures, not the actual ending. So failing is okay :) |
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07-16-08, 5:48 PM
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I agree with Yumeka here. Though I'm naturally more pessimistic and therefore don't tend to the "hope" angle. Tragic heroes are always good. |
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07-07-09, 7:14 PM
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In a way, I think that the judgement day will come when the evil attitudes are common and corrupts the humanity and their world corrupted already, under control of nobles, zombie like humans, air pollution, war, awful places etc... so it has to start over, from purity and time to time again it loses its purity with the start of Darcia's eye... so for now it is paradise for Kiba and the others... Like Darcia said no perfect happiness can exist in a place where there is no perfect sadness or something like that... |
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07-14-09, 3:54 PM
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Agreed gdavge2003 said: I haven't watched Wolf's Rain in a year or two, but how I interpreted the ending was that in their attempt to reach paradise, they, essentially, "failed." The world was recreated, but because of the poison/corruption, it was not a true paradise. Over time, the 'paradise' became the same exact world they were living in. The four of them shown near the end just shows that the world did not change and the search for paradise continues. The focus of the anime was their struggles and adventures, not the actual ending. So failing is okay :) Agree with this, but would add that there are several scenes suggesting that the world truly has died and been reborn time and time again, but that Kiba and the rest of the wolves grow closer to reaching Paradise every time. The following suggests that the new world in which the opening theme song is set is closer to reaching Paradise: 1) Cheza is not a real flower. She reveals this at the end and says that because she is not a true lunar flower, she cannot open the path to Paradise. 2) As Kiba lay dying, we see him with a lunar flower, whereas in the opening scene he was lying in the snow without a flower. 3) In the new world (also the opening) we see Kiba running through the city toward the lunar flower, whereas in the past world he was guided by an imitation. 4) And obviously, in the new world we see all of the characters have been reborn, and can conclude that they have died and been reborn time and time again, and that Kiba and the rest of the gang will meet up and again search for Paradise. That there is real change from the old world in this new world suggests that the wolves will get closer and closer to Paradise. |
#17
09-02-09, 4:04 AM
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I belive in these five things. 1) Kiba opened the paradise. 2) "Open the Paradise" means "Restart World" 3) Paradise on the earth is "Peace World" 4) The earth have been reborned. 5) They should go across of all this every time, to open the paradise when the moon changes its color to red. That is my opinion. I understood Wolf's Rain Ending like this. :) |
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11-08-09, 10:53 AM
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Well... as far as I know, Kiba... did open Paradise, in a sense. But Cheza was not in her true bloomed form, so she wasn't strong enough to fend off the evil in that area (Darcia The III's severed wolf's eye) and therefore could not keep Paradise open. Tsume, Kiba, Hige and Toboe were protected by Cheza ("The Flower") so they were able to be re-incarnated (basically since everyone else was either a human or not a true wolf, than they were not permitted into paradise, and therefore did not get re-incarnated.) But the 4 wolves are re-incarnated thinking they are humans (as was everyone else in the streets at the end.) This is proven because Toboe is holding a cat and not acting like it's a bomb about to detonate. Earlier in the TV series, Toboe said he hated cats. But Darcia said that humans who were once wolves who now believe they are human cannot revert back to their wolf form, except for a select few. Kiba remembers he is a Wolf because he is the Chosen one, and I'm sure since the 3 other wolves helped him, they could revert back as well. Cheza, if you remember, turned into several scattered seeds, awaiting Kiba in Paradise (because now she's actually a bunch of flowers, which is her true form.) And Darcia can't stand in their way. :DD So basically, the ending is: Second time's the charm! XDD That theory took me about 2 years to fully think up. xD "Now you feel like Number one, shinin' bright for everyone, livin' our your fantasy, the brightest star for all to see!~" -"Number One" by Hazel Fernandez |