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Feb 27, 2010 1:40 AM

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I liked the first episode better, but this one was good.







 
Feb 27, 2010 2:15 AM

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Yeah, i thought the first one was better (mostly b/c shana appeared more) but it was still good. Thankfully i know japanese so i quickly turned off the subs >.>

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Feb 27, 2010 6:55 AM

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good ep. but the subs is not good haha..


 
Feb 27, 2010 1:21 PM

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The subs were so bad it was like practically watching the RAW! But no matter, at least the episode finally came out, now..another 2 or 3 month wait until the next one.. :'(
 
Feb 27, 2010 4:20 PM

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I just saw this episode.

I'm a big Shana fan.. but my lord, what was going on with the subbing? I've never seen worse. Does anyone know if there will be a different version up at any point?

If not, could someone please explain to me what happened (it can be via a message to prevent spoilers for others)? I understand the basics, it's just hard to get a good feel for it when the translations are so off the charts.
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Feb 27, 2010 6:49 PM

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Just curious about you guys mentioning about POPSUBS: Is that the one that has a lot of the word "bar" in this episode's subs?

Watched the Chinese sub instead. It was basically a surprise party arranged by Alastor to improve the relationship between Wilhelmina and Yuuji (since Wilhemina had quite a hostile attitude towards Yuuji, especially in the first season). Everybody knows about the party itself except for those two, so the two 'forced' to work together to find out what's going on while others pretend that they don't know what's going on.

There's also another reason behind the surprise party; Shana heard from Wihelmina that the date is supposed to be some important date, so at the end she asked her what it is about. It turns out to be the date that Shana was 'adopted' to Tendokyu (that floating fortress she spent her childhood), I think.
 
Feb 27, 2010 8:17 PM

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Shana's too awesome xD had to watch the raw even though i won't know what their talking about at certain parts haha!


 
Feb 27, 2010 9:12 PM

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after the long wait for episode 2 it was so disappointing...because i didn't have a clue what was going on or being said xD those subs were really bad that it was funny.


 
Feb 28, 2010 12:34 AM

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quentinlau said:
Just curious about you guys mentioning about POPSUBS: Is that the one that has a lot of the word "bar" in this episode's subs?

Watched the Chinese sub instead. It was basically a surprise party arranged by Alastor to improve the relationship between Wilhelmina and Yuuji (since Wilhemina had quite a hostile attitude towards Yuuji, especially in the first season). Everybody knows about the party itself except for those two, so the two 'forced' to work together to find out what's going on while others pretend that they don't know what's going on.

There's also another reason behind the surprise party; Shana heard from Wihelmina that the date is supposed to be some important date, so at the end she asked her what it is about. It turns out to be the date that Shana was 'adopted' to Tendokyu (that floating fortress she spent her childhood), I think.


Mm.. yeah. PopSubs is the one. Thanks for the summary.
Pretty good episode I thought. I know there's a lot of criticism for this OVA being filler (and it definitely is in a sense), but I'm curious to see how this strengthening of Wilhelmina and Yuuji's relationship will affect season 3 (since the creators mentioned this OVA is essentially a setup for it).
 
Feb 28, 2010 3:11 AM

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tachyonserj said:
Mm.. yeah. PopSubs is the one. Thanks for the summary.
Pretty good episode I thought. I know there's a lot of criticism for this OVA being filler (and it definitely is in a sense), but I'm curious to see how this strengthening of Wilhelmina and Yuuji's relationship will affect season 3 (since the creators mentioned this OVA is essentially a setup for it).


Even for an OVA episode this seemed out line with it being pretty much all plot based talking and such; it was something more befitting a TV episode than an OVA. Interesting but overall a big let down, I thought when Margery punched Marqoius of the roof was the best part of the show.

If you haven't seen it yet or can't watch and understand the raw ones I'd suggest that you go into it with a unusual mind frame: Expect this episode to suck hard, like 1 out of 10 hard; so once you watch it you won't feel the big letdown (that most of the rest of us have so far) from waiting several months for it to come out. Once you do watch it's enjoyment will only go upwards. Like going out and watching B movies with your friends; you know it gonna suck so you don't feel let down, if it's good then its much more satisfying like you've discovered a gem in the rough.
 
Feb 28, 2010 6:37 AM

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is there any GOOD versions of ep 2 yet the subs i just watched are... 100% unwatchable most of the words made no sense and nearly every line was weird i mean i had to stop watching my fav anime because of the reallll bad subs
 
Feb 28, 2010 11:09 AM

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omg when is eclipse's subs coming out..
 
Mar 1, 2010 7:24 AM

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If no normal subs are out by 4th of March I will change the POP Subs to something watchable. You can figure out what's going on with common sense and a little Japanese so I should succed :P
 
Mar 1, 2010 8:04 AM

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Kowal said:
If no normal subs are out by 4th of March I will change the POP Subs to something watchable. You can figure out what's going on with common sense and a little Japanese so I should succed :P


it wont work since its easier to understand a RAW than watch popsubs lol
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Mar 1, 2010 6:46 PM

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Eh...I'm normally really patient, this time, I'm itching to find out what happens next in Shakugan no Shana and I don't want to watch the newest episode until good subs come out because the pop subs just suck. =(
 
Mar 1, 2010 7:37 PM

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I have to agree , Popsubs was terrible , like it was literally done in babblefish or something , I managed to get thru the ep with what little Japanese I know and having to change around the literal translation in my mind to make sense.

Can't wait til Eclipse , Chihiro or a group I've actually heard of do this.

 
Mar 2, 2010 5:42 AM

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hm still no subs? geez groups are lazy these days:(
 
Mar 2, 2010 6:56 PM

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Kazenoken released a sub, torrenting now... though never heard of them. It can't be worse than POPSUBS though, considering the comments I've been reading about them.

EDIT: shit nvm, they just released episode 1........................
I jumped to the gun too fast....
who release a new subbed version of episode 1 at this hour....?
 
Mar 2, 2010 11:42 PM

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Might as well just watch it raw. You can figure out exactly what's going on even if you don't understand a word.
 
Mar 3, 2010 10:37 AM

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Well I am nearly done changing the POPSUBS trash into something more readable (although some of the stuff will probably not make sense still... It's hard to change something that makes 0 sense). Anyone know where to upload it?
 
Mar 3, 2010 11:16 AM

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megaupload or megavideo?
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Mar 3, 2010 11:30 AM

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Was thinking more like torrent...
 
Mar 3, 2010 11:31 AM

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Mar 3, 2010 11:32 AM

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ah, if you want torrent just use http://openbittorrent.com
 
Mar 3, 2010 12:01 PM

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Thanks but it's on Nyaa torrents now :P

Keyword 'KowalSub' (lol) gets u straight to it.. Although my upload is epic shit.

EDIT: At least have decency to seed what you download so people can actually watch it pls :P
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Mar 3, 2010 3:40 PM

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Kowal said:
Thanks but it's on Nyaa torrents now :P

Keyword 'KowalSub' (lol) gets u straight to it.. Although my upload is epic shit.

EDIT: At least have decency to seed what you download so people can actually watch it pls :P


Mind encoding it in .avi format? MKVs don't run properly on this ancient laptop of mine.
 
Mar 3, 2010 4:18 PM

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Yes sorry I do mind :P My ISP has been acting like a pieced of shit lately and I am getting 10KB/s upload at this very moment. (srsly wtf is that 10KB >_>)

If it's back to normal by tommorow I will do it though
 
Mar 3, 2010 4:38 PM

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Why not just upload the subs file itself without the avi? Smaller and faster download...Thanks anyways
 
Mar 3, 2010 9:01 PM

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Yo Kowal, downloading your torrent right now. You are a savior to us all. I already waited months for this, the lack of subs up until now was like adding salt to wound. Hopefully it is a good sub, if it is, I am forever in your debt.
 
Mar 3, 2010 9:30 PM

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so how are the subs? anyone whose already watched it?
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Mar 4, 2010 12:39 AM

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OK God don't expect anything Eclipse standard etc. :P In my opinion the subs aren't bad although there are probably few mistakes and some stuff might make no sense for someone with vast Japanese language knowledge.

1 thing is sure

Wayyyyyyyyyyy bettter than POPSUBS.

If you don't like my version either, then please show me how it's done.

EDIT:

Wow, over at Nya torrents, apparently POPSUBS creator came up. He says stuff like 'Thanks for beign a fan and correcting mistakes of which there were maybe about 3). He honestly acts like his subs were good. Can anyone with account there help me to get to this guy that his subs were actually epic shit? He doesn't seem to get the message... Thx.
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Mar 4, 2010 2:34 AM

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I've watched your version and it wasn't bad. Just had some "Jsut" instead of "Just" xD
Ep 1 was better but i still liked this one as everything that has Shana in it :P
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Mar 4, 2010 2:39 AM

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Sorry about that I didn't run any spell checks after I finished :P I was in quite a rush :S Well, glad you liked it <3
 
Mar 4, 2010 5:05 AM

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thanks a bunch Kowal, I finished torrenting it but unfortunately..... its so great that its too good for my 10 year old lap-top (sigh i fear mkv and its totally awesome HD qualities that are too great). When you are free, do you mind putting up an avi version please? thanks alot ! ^.^ arigatou!

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Mar 4, 2010 5:35 AM

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OK I will put up avi but God knows how long this will take :< If anyone interested just in .ass file PM me or write to darthmaulster@hotmail.com I will be happy to hand it over :P

EDIT:

I tried and failed. Sorry I jsut cant transcode this to AVI for some unkown reason :< I also managed to fuck my codecs up while trying :< Sorry again :S

EDIT2:
Well I got the .avi now but my ISP still hates me and best I can do is 20KB/s...

I won't start uploading sooner than this evening I'm afraid...
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Mar 4, 2010 7:54 AM

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Kowal, thanx a lot. i've been waiting until normal subs come out. And here you go. One problem is that it is not a 720p version, everything else is good. Good job
 
Mar 4, 2010 9:07 AM

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Not that great in my opinion, but Shana is as cute as always. Worth watching.
 
Mar 4, 2010 9:18 AM

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hey guys, do you know a good stream for this episode?
Because I only find one with extremely horrible subs.
Hope you can help me
 
Mar 4, 2010 10:23 AM

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Yo Kowal, watched your rendition of the episode. I'd say it was pretty good. Despite some typos, which I can overlook (grammer is the big issue), your subs were good enough that I understood the story and enjoyed the episode. I wasn't distracted, or anything while watching, which is the number one sign that a sub is shit.
 
Mar 4, 2010 10:34 AM

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THank you very much <3 Now rewatching it, I see quite a few typos myself and some words where they shouldn't be but I guess it's always like that :P It always looks right when written at first :P

Well, thanks.

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Mar 4, 2010 3:54 PM

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Downloading now, so it looks like it'll be an hour before I get to see it. But if it makes an ounce of sense, it's better than what I couldn't get 5 minutes into >_>

EDIT: The subs were excellent :) Not gonna be nitpicky and whine about the typos or anything. I was able to understand everything clearly; it was like you actually translated it into English!

The episode itself was a little disappointing though. I dunno, I felt like nothing really happened. I mean, the first episode there was the whole business with the artifact, a definition was given about Shana's and Yuji's relationship and it was kinda fun the whole time. In this episode though, I wasn't really interested in anything, and only the last few minutes actually mattered to me.

Not a bad episode, but I kinda hoped for more from the first one.
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Mar 4, 2010 5:12 PM

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It was good to finally see the 2nd episode, however, it didn't have the same impact as the first.

Honestly I'm a little disappointed we waited 4 months for a very subtle, nothing special, kinda boring episode, hopefully episode 3 will be a lot better.

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Mar 5, 2010 2:01 AM

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agree with everyone else, disappointing. just watching them run around.
 
Mar 5, 2010 2:57 AM

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kowal, could you give the heads up when the avi version is up? thanks

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Mar 5, 2010 5:20 AM

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Avi no can do :< My ISP is epic shit... Unless you would settle with download from rapidshare or soemthing like that because over torrent it just wouldn't work well, not many people would download and hence upload speed would be shit for you to get it from. If rapidshare is OK with you then I can do that :O

Or you could just convert the mkv you already have to avi yourself

Well anyway, propose something as I am unable to do anything with torrent and upload at the moment sowwiez :<
 
Mar 5, 2010 2:20 PM

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http://www.animetake.com/shakugan-no-shana-s-ova-2/
Agree with everyone else boring episode.
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Mar 5, 2010 6:43 PM

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POPSUBS were terrible, so had to wait until now. Cute episode, Wilhelmina is love <3
 
Mar 5, 2010 6:43 PM

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Just watched it from YouTube :]

I thought the episode was alright. This OVA is interesting when it comes to just watching random day events that are humorous and fun ^____^

Wilhelmina is amazing xD

That day... I wonder what the date in the episode was.
 
Mar 5, 2010 7:54 PM

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I just watched the avi one from Linh-Subs. I think it was a nice episode but I liked Reshuffle better, there was more Shana XD. Cant wait for the next 1 ^.^

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Mar 6, 2010 3:49 PM

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I was really pumped for this too. >.>
All they did was (try to) stalk Shana around for a whole episode... I guess i should of expected this since it is just stuff in between seasons.
 
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