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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- I feel bad for Sanji this chapter..not only getting beat up by his father but also having to forced to marry someone. I think he put him a decent fight at least. Kinda interesting to see more of his past though. |
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| Bad Papa Vinsmoke playing dirty to beat his son. Sad flashback of Sanji D: Dat Lightning Spear, Judge can also use Wall ability :/ Lol "handcuffs". That won't stop Sanji fighting style, though these are exploding handcuffs Curious about what happend to Sanji's mother... |
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| Great colour page. Man Sanji had a terrible childhood. His brothers beating him up for cooking & his father doing nothing to help him. Even getting locked up. What a bunch of jerks. Nice battle between Sanji & Judge. That Germa technology is something. Those Germa soldiers giving up their lives without a second thought. Bomb Wristlets around Sanji's hand & Big Mom is the only one with the keys. |
Santoryu_XBurnerJul 21, 2016 4:56 AM
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Chapter was okay. Judge said to Sanji "So you dare to kick your own father", he proposed this whole thing... sigh.. And I don't know how I feel about this unnecesarry drama with Sanji and his father, why would he hate Sanji so much? Ünless its because of him that his wife died... but he's the third son born, so the 4th would be "blamed" for that (similar to how Tyrion was blamed in GOT series...)... it doesn't really makes much sense, for now. |
| I think people miss the fact that Sanji didn't ACTUALLY lose to his father, it felt more like a passive retreat/loss by Sanji. Sanji is definitely leagues above his father, although he was troubled by the unpredictability of the technology and the interference of the soldiers, the attacks hardly hurt him. I think he chose to lose and fight another time where the soldiers arent present otherwise more would die by his father. |
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| Awesome chp. Interesting to know that they were all born on the same day? Wow So they're friggin twins. His mother birthed 4 at the same time or 5 with even Reiju? The fight was awesome (best in a while). I knew Sanji wouldn't be man handled. He resisted quite well. And he barely used any of his new skills vs Judge who used a hell lots of tech along with his stupid suicidal body guards. My respect for Sanji just keeps growing and to think he was bullied by his brothers that much. I definitely seeing him being able to beat Judge albeit barely tho not to mention Luffy. Judge viewing Big mom as a deranged woman also makes it quite interesting. I wonder what his plans are. So now we have another reason to beat up Big Mom since Sanji's hands are at stake. |
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| Sanji would've won that fight if only his Father didn't play dirty.. Well that's unless he wasn't holding back but i still think Sanji's stronger. I wonder why Judge hates him so much tho |
| His father attack, seem so weak to me. Maybe he held back his power a bit. I feel like he has a twisted personality, once he said that "You've returned home Sanji, that means that You're indeed my SON" but in the end he said "I still and never will see a fool like you as a Son of mine". Or maybe he just want to look nice in front of his soldier, I dunno. I'm sure Sanji has a closest relationship to his mother than his other siblings. That explain how Sanji has different personality than his siblings who closer to his father. Something must be happening to his Mother.. skwok-raven said: I think people miss the fact that Sanji didn't ACTUALLY lose to his father, it felt more like a passive retreat/loss by Sanji. Sanji is definitely leagues above his father, although he was troubled by the unpredictability of the technology and the interference of the soldiers, the attacks hardly hurt him. I think he chose to lose and fight another time where the soldiers arent present otherwise more would die by his father. I think it because he want to see if his family has changed even a little bit or not so he held back, in the end they are even worse than before. |
korewaItaiJul 21, 2016 5:35 AM
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| I'm going to start this off by saying the spoiler made this fight seem really one sided which it wasn't. I love Sanji fights and this is really some of the best action we've gotten post time skip. Really good chapter whether you like the outcome or not this is some of the best action we’ve had in a while. The hate between these two is real! This definitely wasn’t a stomp like may though from the spoiler and I have to wonder how Judge would fair without his suit (referenced by the Germa soldiers) and Germa technology? Also I think Sanji with a pair of those boots would be devastating but I hope he doesn’t wear them, instead I hope he comes up with something that is the equivalent by the end of this arc. Sanji’s backstory is pretty sad but I loved that Man in the Iron Mask reference as well. Glad to see that the family and Germa acknowledged his growth over the years. I really don’t think this marriage is not going down. Now we just need to figure out how it’s going to be stopped. I’m still down with the idea that Big Mom will give the Vinsmoke the Tamatebako which will lead to conflict a between the two sides. Next question how does Sanji get out of the cuffs? Will Luffy use CoC to undo Sanji’s cuffs (similar to Rayleigh at the Auction house) or will we be getting the key from Big Mom? This is how I am thinking this arc may shape up: I’m starting to think that they really wont be fighting Big Mom this arc. Since Luffy can use CoC in the way Rayleight did at Sabaody Archipelago they don’t have to fight Big Mom to free Sanji. Since Big Mom is really only concerned with sweets the Tamatebako could be given to the Vinsmoke as a wedding gift or a symbol of their alliance only to blow up in Judge’s face. That in itself would cause him to fight against Big mom or at the very least reconsider his alliance. Now instead of Sanji being the one to incur her wrath it would be Judge. In all the commotion the Straw Hats steal the Poneglyph, secure Jinbe and Sanji, and sail for Wano, leaving Big Mom for a later arc. |
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| never seen more of a dick family than that. lol no wonder sanji doesnt consider them as a family |
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That was not his mother, that was Reiju, his older sister.. |
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| Poor Sanji. I can see why he hates his family so much. Luffy is probably going to do a Rayleigh to save Sanji from those wrists bands. |
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blfan said: And Sanji's mom took part in holding Sanji hands hostage, well that being said, again One Piece is doing something I just saw done in Fairy Tail, Sanji hands, it is similar what is happening to Mavis. this comment just screams "i have no clue what im talking about" so loud it hurts my ears |
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CaptainZoro said: Bad Papa Vinsmoke playing dirty to beat his son. Sad flashback of Sanji D: Dat Lightning Spear, Judge can also use Wall ability :/ Lol "handcuffs". That won't stop Sanji fighting style, though these are exploding handcuffs Curious about what happend to Sanji's mother... I don't think "Wall" is actually an ability, I think it just a command for a soldier to guard him with their own body... |
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| I don't like his family now Grrrr !!!! When Big Mom wasn't enough, Germa 66 needs to be stopped too.... Oda is really a sadist with his characters lol Now, I can really tell that Sanji is more and more bond with France History, Oda made a clear parallel between Sanji and an old French legend thank to that little reference. The old french legend reference: but maybe i'm wrong ^^ |
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| Father of the year lol. No wonder Sanji doesn't want anything to do with him or his other siblings. Fight was pretty cool, I don't think his father is a match for him though. Not really worried about those cuffs since he should be getting them off pretty soon.. |
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| What an amazing chapter. 5/5. 10/10 That flashback was heartbreaking :( Hate this family. ughh. Judge freaking father of the year. Making Lelouch's father look good. (Okay maybe not but still an asshole xD) Interesting to see how the others get Sanji's key. They're gonna need more help to get out of this island. What do you guys think of Reiju? As bad as others? She did seem sympathetic to Sanji in the present |
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Barion-Zara said: Awesome chp. Interesting to know that they were all born on the same day? Wow So they're friggin twins. His mother birthed 4 at the same time or 5 with even Reiju? Not twins, quadruplets :P If I'm not mistaken Reiju mentioned about her being the older sister in the last chapter so 4 I guess |
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| Darn it was pretty disappointing. I was expecting to see Sanji to kickass or at least show us new moves but Judge played dirty .-. I guess it's truly Sanji's rescue arc now |
| I felt bad for Sanji, every one in his family is a piece of shit |
| What a fantastic chapter that punched the shit out of those haters who kept saying Sanji's weak and blah blah. Even with this chapter proving otherwise, they're still some saying that over the net. Didn't think it that was so hard to understand that Sanji didn't lose and had a very obvious reason to stop fighting his father. Meh.. whatever. I'm loving the Vinsmokes. A bunch of assholes who aren't afraid of using cheap tricks to get what they want. (villains with a sad story etc started to get boring and being evil just for the sake of it is good once in awhile) Sanji's year didn't disappoint so far and i'm looking forward to badass screentime and his interesting story. |
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Ryunuosuke said: If five were born at the same time doesn't that make them Quintuplets?Barion-Zara said: Awesome chp. Interesting to know that they were all born on the same day? Wow So they're friggin twins. His mother birthed 4 at the same time or 5 with even Reiju? Not twins, quadruplets :P If I'm not mistaken Reiju mentioned about her being the older sister in the last chapter so 4 I guess P.S. older sister could just mean came out of the womb minutes before the others. |
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| I can't believe you guys aren't seeing how this arc is shaping up to be CP9 2.0, this time with Sanji playing Robin's role. This chapter just proved it with the handcuffs and Big Mam having the keys. The only main difference is that unlike Spandam, Big Mam is actually worth a damn...... probably. |
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| The Plot is getting thicker by the chapter and I LIKE IT! But why the 8.99? 9.00 was the rating last week... There is so much going on that you need to worry about things already and there hasn't been a single battle yet. (Small Skirmishes only). We still did not get a read of the Zou crew where the other Yonko/SH Crew are. DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!! My heart... this is too much.. |
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animalia said: Ryunuosuke said: If five were born at the same time doesn't that make them Quintuplets?Not twins, quadruplets :P If I'm not mistaken Reiju mentioned about her being the older sister in the last chapter so 4 I guess P.S. older sister could just mean came out of the womb minutes before the others. Well I was referring to 4 being born at once :P Yes that was my first guess as well but thought it was weird how she was referring to herself as "Old sister" just because she could be born a few mins earlier. I don't know. Just don't see her being the same age as them. |
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Spider-titan55 said: Personally I hope Sanji gets payback in the rematch.man, Sanji's father is a real piece of work. i hope luffy gives him a good enough beating. the same goes for the others with his other family members. i feel as though leaving Zoro out of the fight was a really bad idea because seeing him beating up and bad mouything his family would've been brilliant and great to see . |
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| Awesome chapter. Sanji's father is one big bastard. Throwing away his son just cause he doesn't live upto his expectations. The brothers are no better. |
 Fake people have an image to maintain. Real people just don’t care. |
| Wow, so Sanji is and his brothers are quadruplets (or possibly quintuplets if Reiju was also born on the same day as them). I now understand why he has such hatred for his family, they treated him like shit and his father didn't do anything to prevent it. And locking him up in a cell? Father of the year right there, folks. The result of their fight was predictable, but it was cool to briefly see some of Judge's abilities. He's ruthless though, using a wall of his own men and sacrificing one of them without hesitation. And now Sanji is in even more of a pickle with the possibility of his hands getting blown up. |
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Isterio said: Ty-Ki said: What a fantastic chapter that punched the shit out of those haters who kept saying Sanji's weak and blah blah. Even with this chapter proving otherwise, they're still some saying that over the net. Didn't think it that was so hard to understand that Sanji didn't lose and had a very obvious reason to stop fighting his father. Meh.. whatever. I'm loving the Vinsmokes. A bunch of assholes who aren't afraid of using cheap tricks to get what they want. (villains with a sad story etc started to get boring and being evil just for the sake of it is good once in awhile) Sanji's year didn't disappoint so far and i'm looking forward to badass screentime and his interesting story. WTF are you talking about? Objectively all this chapter did was confirm that Sanji is a decent class fighter but he´s by far not top tier, possibly he´ll never be. His father requires the assistance of Big Mom to rule North Blue an area pre Grand line with a huge army backing him up. Sanji lost to a guy who is this incompetent. Now granted we do not have details on his armies powerlevel or the military strength currently defending North blue. East Blue has been called the weakest out of the blue seas but again no details were given, so everything beyond that is speculation. The only things we can deduct from the information we received this chapter was Sanji´s past was kinda tragic and him having a compareably soft heart. His powerlevel however currently is below Doflamingo subordinate level as he miserably lost to Vergo and couldn´t put up a fight against Doffy. And what has that to do with what i said? What the fuck.. Never did i mention that Sanji is a top tier fighter. What i said is that Sanji isn't as weak as some Zoro faggots trying to make him look like with their hating and that this chapter proved it. And what if he couldn't put up a fight against Doffy? We are talking about a monster Luffy could beat only because of help, g4 and plot armor. Doffy would have rekt any of the other SH, just like he did with sanji. |
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| An okay chapter. Much of the things were what I expected, minus Sanji being handcuffed and practically treated like a slave like that, but he'll get out of it soon, I'm sure. |
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| Man... Papa Vinsmoke is brutal. Sanji's life sure has been tragic. First a shitty family, then almost starved and lost his entire friends/crews leaving only his mentor |
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animalia said: Spider-titan55 said: Personally I hope Sanji gets payback in the rematch.man, Sanji's father is a real piece of work. i hope luffy gives him a good enough beating. the same goes for the others with his other family members. i feel as though leaving Zoro out of the fight was a really bad idea because seeing him beating up and bad mouything his family would've been brilliant and great to see . Sort of doubt that's going to happen. Bjartskular said: Awesome chapter. Sanji's father is one big bastard. Throwing away his son just cause he doesn't live upto his expectations. The brothers are no better. Nor is the sister, though. |
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AmyTwo said: Keep in mind Sanji threw the fight in this chapter because his Dad was using his own men as shields. Once that advantage is gone I can see him getting his ass handed to him.animalia said: Personally I hope Sanji gets payback in the rematch. Sort of doubt that's going to happen. |
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| I can't wait to figure out how this arc will turn out- will it be sanji defeating his father, after all?? But i guess that luffy and sanji will meet up to release sanji from those handcuffs |
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| Sanji is knee deep now :o |
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