| This is one of the most praised arcs of JoJo's (probably second behind 7). I'm just wondering why? I haven't read the manga but I'm up to date on the anime. I don't hate it per se but I find it slightly less interesting than Stardust Crusaders and Battle Tendency. So what makes it so great? |
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| it was a nice change of pace from the previous 3, this part is the "slice of life" of jojo. half the time it's just these guys goofing around in this small city. the enemies were not as deadly as the previous parts, and the main characters are also much more interesting compared to part 3(except polnaref and oldseph ofc) but mainly people love it because the main villain(you know the "severed hand" guy. he literally will make a cameo in the next eps) |
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| Best main villain ever, and that's pretty much it. |
| Contrary to a common opinion, I don't think part 4 is great because of it's main antagonist. He is better than previous Jojo villains but that doesn't say much. This part is the best for me, because of the characters and their interactions. I just find Josuke, Okyuasu and their interactions with the cast to be one of the most charming, funny and interesting elements in all of Jojo parts. The way part 4 is structured makes it change one of it's most glaring flaws that are padding and motw format to it's advantage. With it's slice of life feel, and the story being inside one town. Unlike Stardust Crusaders it doesn't feel like the story is padded to oblivion with one note villains every other week, just to stall the very simplistic plotline of defeating Dio. In part 4, there is no major end goal, even the main antagonist only becomes relevant halfway into it. Part 4 just really lives up to it's name, of bizarre adventures and encounters. Just having Josuke and Okyuasu chilling, just goofing around is so much more enjoyable than the majority of part 3 fights. Speaking of which the fights are also significantly better, that's probably due to the author having a better grip on the concept of Stands, where it's not as simplistic as part 3. More smart tactics in fights, and more unique stand power, and stand forms and ideas. You might appreciate the later half with the main antagonist but I think the main appeal of the part is just not your cup of tea. |
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tsudecimo said: Contrary to a common opinion, I don't think part 4 is great because of it's main antagonist. He is better than previous Jojo villains but that doesn't say much. This part is the best for me, because of the characters and their interactions. I just find Josuke, Okyuasu and their interactions with the cast to be one of the most charming, funny and interesting elements in all of Jojo parts. The way part 4 is structured makes it change one of it's most glaring flaws that are padding and motw format to it's advantage. With it's slice of life feel, and the story being inside one town. Unlike Stardust Crusaders it doesn't feel like the story is padded to oblivion with one note villains every other week, just to stall the very simplistic plotline of defeating Dio. In part 4, there is no major end goal, even the main antagonist only becomes relevant halfway into it. Part 4 just really lives up to it's name, of bizarre adventures and encounters. Just having Josuke and Okyuasu chilling, just goofing around is so much more enjoyable than the majority of part 3 fights. Speaking of which the fights are also significantly better, that's probably due to the author having a better grip on the concept of Stands, where it's not as simplistic as part 3. More smart tactics in fights, and more unique stand power, and stand forms and ideas. You might appreciate the later half with the main antagonist but I think the main appeal of the part is just not your cup of tea. I'd agree with this which makes Diamond so far a lot more enjoyable that Stardust Crusaders was for me. I'd still take Battle Tendency over it easily though. That was peak Jojo for me but it's pretty much a different show now and I like the direction this part took after SC. |
| It's Twin Peaks x Seinfield. Excellent character interactions, dodgy things happening in a town. Everything occurs in this particular town. The main antagonist is also the best written antagonist from Part 1- IV. |
| dayum anime-only people, would you chill... the story has only just begun, from ep 17 onwards it will show what it came for. then if you still don't like it after this point, well, there are other parts, it's not an obligation to have DiU as a favorite. but, chill now anyways. TheMaster100 said: The main antagonist is also the best written antagonist from Part 1- IV. The best antagonist stand might be from part IV, KQ kicks serious ass. but imho the best written antag goes to part VI because of his past and development. |
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neko_cola said: dayum anime-only people, would you chill... the story has only just begun, from ep 17 onwards it will show what it came for. then if you still don't like it after this point, well, there are other parts, it's not an obligation to have DiU as a favorite. but, chill now anyways. TheMaster100 said: The main antagonist is also the best written antagonist from Part 1- IV. The best antagonist stand might be from part IV, KQ kicks serious ass. but imho the best written antag goes to part VI because of his past and development. Pucci is excellent, don't get me wrong, he, Jolyne and are the best characters from SO. Diavolo sucks P |
| Diavolo is a much better villain than Pucci |
Pupu-Hotpot said: Diavolo is a much better villain than Pucci Bait. But while I like Kira a lot, he's not the only reason 4 is one of my favorites. The crew is charming, the interactios are neat and some chapters made me laugh out loud while others make me shiver worried about the cast. |
| >User since 2008 Please god help me quit this website. Such great community that doesn't even know how demographics work, AND gives """detailed"""" reviews after first episodes. |
| I think its a nice change of pace between Parts 3 and 5, which are about traveling to get to a certain point to find out about the main antagonist so they can beat the shit out of them, whereas Part 4 is a little more easygoing. Out of the first 6 parts, I think its the funniest, and it has my favorite characters. |
Pupu-Hotpot said: Diavolo is a much better villain than Pucci Diavolo doesn't have much character development, like his motives... "muh identity"...tbh he is the worst out of Pucci and Kira (and I love part 5). idk, why do you think he's better? |
neko_colaJul 22, 2016 8:56 PM
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| Recently found out that the "completed" Part V English translation that's currently out seems to be a mess here and there with the page-order for some chapters...on top of the basic, Sonic Adventure(DX) level of engaging dialogue. A tad atrocious, I'd say...don't you think? Even though I've barely started on it - for this, I feel that Part V is unjustly hated upon if peeps are basing this poor man's scanlation as their golden Vento Aureo experience. |
ShigyCJul 22, 2016 9:19 PM
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neko_cola said: Pupu-Hotpot said: Diavolo is a much better villain than Pucci Diavolo doesn't have much character development, like his motives... "muh identity"...tbh he is the worst out of Pucci and Kira (and I love part 5). idk, why do you think he's better? i don't know about him but i thought Diavolo is definitely the most scariest villain cause hes the most human if someone with a mental illness discovered they could erase time i'm pretty sure they'd think they would be above everyone else and to be chosen by fate to rule the world basically hes not the best written personally but he fits his story and world the best nzanimemanga has a great video on diavolo its does a way better job of explaining it |
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StefanHere said: neko_cola said: Diavolo doesn't have much character development, like his motives... "muh identity"...tbh he is the worst out of Pucci and Kira (and I love part 5). idk, why do you think he's better? i don't know about him but i thought Diavolo is definitely the most scariest villain cause hes the most human if someone with a mental illness discovered they could erase time i'm pretty sure they'd think they would be above everyone else and to be chosen by fate to rule the world basically hes not the best written personally but he fits his story and world the best nzanimemanga has a great video on diavolo its does a way better job of explaining it oh it's not that I hate Diavolo. he's indeed not well written (like with Pucci, all those chapters... Kira, his father... etc. Diavolo never had this "introduction" and we had a little story about his past... still not much), but the "most human" part is arguable specially because he is always hiding. ironically he is one of the most important characters lol. his stand though is terrifying, one of the strongest. the scenes when time skips are scary. i'll take a look on the video. |
neko_colaJul 23, 2016 12:09 PM
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DeusExMavro said: I haven't read the manga There's your answer |
DeusExMavro said: This is one of the most praised arcs of JoJo's (probably second behind 7). I'm just wondering why? I haven't read the manga but I'm up to date on the anime. I don't hate it per se but I find it slightly less interesting than Stardust Crusaders and Battle Tendency. So what makes it so great? It's not my favorite arc but these last few episodes I've been able to tell the momentum is about to pick up. I'm really excited to see what happens and with each episode I learn something new about all these characters I love so much. I like DIU because there's really no character so far I absolutely hate (unlike DIO in the other arcs...). Hey, and don't listen to those people blasting you for not reading the manga yet. I haven't read it yet either but that's what makes the anime so exciting for me. It's wonderful being surprised every episode and not knowing what's going to happen next. Take your time bro. I think this season will grow on you. :) |
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| Comparing to the first 3 parts, I like it better because by focusing on a single setting, it gets fleshed out and feels like a real place. The lack of urgent business lets us get to know the characters for who they are. |
| Must admit that I prefer earlier iterations of Jojo. The sights, the travels and sheer cosmopolitanism of it all really added to my overall experience. Not to mention the banter there was in Stardust Crusaders between the likes of straight faced Jotaro and doofy Joseph and Polnareff. Looking forward to this new villain though. It seems he will be something special. |
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ShigyC said: Even though I've barely started on it - for this, I feel that Part V is unjustly hated upon if peeps are basing this poor man's scanlation as their golden Vento Aureo experience. To me part 5 was a big wasted potential |
kronos7Aug 1, 2016 5:45 AM
| I still love Jojo 2012 the most of anime, prefer Force users vs Vampires than Stands. Stands remind me of pokemon like animes... Manga readers are there any more arcs that aren't Stands battle focused? |
lakisa said: Manga readers are there any more arcs that aren't Stands battle focused? Nope. Part 7 has a new power, but Stands are still there as the main one. |
lakisa said: I still love Jojo 2012 the most of anime, prefer Force users vs Vampires than Stands. Stands remind me of pokemon like animes... Manga readers are there any more arcs that aren't Stands battle focused? Part 7, there's still a bit though but they're all awesome |
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lakisa said: Stands were a thing 7 whole years before Pokemon even wasStands remind me of pokemon like animes... |
| Always remember that anime is a niche medium in Japan. Manga sells way better |
lakisa said: I still love Jojo 2012 the most of anime, prefer Force users vs Vampires than Stands. Stands remind me of pokemon like animes... Manga readers are there any more arcs that aren't Stands battle focused? No. Arc 7 seems like it would for the first few volumes but that's it. Even then, it doesn't go back to the way things were in the 1st 2 arcs. Not even close. |
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