Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
I don't find any of the characters interesting and the story sucks. Subaru is an annoying as fuck MC. Especially his comedic and self aware moments (which are really forced) and obsession with Emilia. Also pretty typical in the sense that he wants to save everyone even though he just interacted with them for a few days. He has zero backstory so far and doesn't seem to care why he is here etc. (which is really unrealistic) The female characters are boring waifu bait who try too hard to be "cute", especially Emilia (bland as fuck). The setting is rather generic fantasy and the character designs are awful. Soundtrack is good, especially the ending. First eps were solid but then it went downhill fast in the mansion arc. The time reset concept is intriguing but apart from that this series hasn't much going for it. Apparently Subaru is going to suffer more but really I couldn't care less. Could be cheap too if the writer goes too far. |
AssumingControlJul 7, 2016 6:47 AM
Omni_slash95 said: I don't find any of the characters interesting Why? and the story sucks. You have been introduced to like 5% of it. Subaru is an annoying as fuck MC. Why? and obsession with Emilia. There is obviously more to it than meets the eye. Also pretty typical in the sense that he wants to save everyone even though he just interacted with them for a few days. He just intereacted with them for a few days repeatedly + a month. That is more than enough to me to want to save them besides his good nature. He has zero backstory so far He has backstory in the future and the far future. You are not fed with his backstory at the beginning of the story, it would be unnatural. and doesn't seem to care why he is here etc. (which is really unrealistic) How would he be able to find out why and how? Also, why should he care? the character designs are awful. It isn't the case. The time reset concept is intriguing but apart from that this series hasn't much going for it. It's touching a few interesting things, like humanity, selfishness/selflessness, it's pretty dark, it breaks clichés (summoned hero is overpowered, he gets all the girls, he is a special snowflake, he is always morally right, etc etc). Of course it needs people to see/realise/understand these things. |
SirLezardJul 7, 2016 7:10 AM
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
Tony_SansNom said: Omni_slash95 said: I don't find any of the characters interesting Why? and the story sucks. You have been introduced to like 5% of it. Subaru is an annoying as fuck MC. Why? and obsession with Emilia. There is obviously more to it than meets the eye. Also pretty typical in the sense that he wants to save everyone even though he just interacted with them for a few days. He just intereacted with them for a few days repeatedly + a month. That is more than enough to me to want to save them besides his good nature. He has zero backstory so far He has backstory in the future and the far future. You are not fed with his backstory at the beginning of the story, it would be unnatural. and doesn't seem to care why he is here etc. (which is really unrealistic) How would he be able to find out why and how? the character designs are awful. It isn't the case. The time reset concept is intriguing but apart from that this series hasn't much going for it. It's touching a few interesting things, like humanity, selfishness/selflessness, it's pretty dark, it breaks clichés (summoned hero is overpowered, he gets all the girls, he is a special snowflake, he is always morally right, etc etc). Of course it needs people to see/realise/understand these things. Well maybe it gets better but so far it hasn't really gripped me. No need to tell us his full backstory immediately of course but it makes no sense that he never even thinks about his past life. Its like he is a blank slate with no relationships or any life to speak of before this. He wouldn't find out why he is here but he clearly doesn't even care about that. For a character who is supposed to be realistic thats rather jarring. Instead he just has a creepy hard on for Emilia since the first Ep. His relationships with the characters don't feel very meaningful or developed to me. When he basically killed himself to save Rem I just cringed. I just explained why I dont find them interesting. Subaru is annoying (comedic moments, Emilia obsession, unrealistic) and Emilia is just a bland nice waifu. Rem is a bit better at least. Being edgy and dark alone isn't nearly enough. Akame ga kill was that too but still sucked. Its definitely better than something like SAO and breaks some typical tropes. Subaru's whiteknighting is pretty generic though This is all just my opinion of course. And you shouldn't think that yours is somehow a fact. The character designs suck, no "its not the case because I say so" pls. |
AssumingControlJul 7, 2016 7:21 AM
| Regarding the backstory, I do wish they foreshadowed it a bit more obviously in the beginning. |
Omni_slash95 said: Subaru's whiteknighting is pretty generic though This is all just my opinion of course. And you shouldn't think that yours is somehow a fact. The character designs suck, no "its not the case because I say so" pls. Funny 'cause if he wasn't acting like a white knight, everyone would have thought the same as they think of him after ep 12 and 13. What about a story of a main character that just doesn't care that people around him die? Sure it would be interesting at the beginning, but admit that it wouldn't be viable. The main has to be the one who saves the day. For the character design, that's so subjective that it doesn't need to be debated. In a technical approach, no, we can't say that it sucks. |
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anogaijin said: The nonstop screaming at just about everyone since around episode 14 just became more and more annoying every episode to the point where I went from loving this anime and the main character to hating it and him. Blaming his radical change in personality from lovable jester to pathetic control freak of a wife abuser on his being human or going through hell is just ridiculous. Watch steins gate for an example of how to really relflect the feeling of helplessness and despair. This guy is just a chump. In Steins;Gate, Okabe Rintarou has a confidant in the name of Makise Kurisu. Subaru has no one to talk to and he's experiencing things much more violently than in S;G. No, He isn't a chump. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
| this is the logic question, can you stay sane after accepted many deaths and couldn't resolved everything after all? for me, i think how Subaru's acts in this anime is pretty natural and real, he faced desperation, failures many times, and of course deaths, so that's why he became so stubborn and act like he was the greatest, be arrogance or else, because we need to not forget he is STILL 18 years old and he was a NEET in real world, the anime captured perfectly how 18 years old boy reacted if those problems happen to someone like that age, if he is such a badass adult like guts, or master sword like zoro then we can talk about this seriously... |
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| MC is literally M'Lady x Memelord incarnate. His obnoxiousness might be justified if he was actually disliked by other characters in the show, but he isn't (the two maids may seem as though they dislike him, but they still tolerate him and *at the end of the day* they smile at each other in good spirits - episode 6 twist aside). They laugh off his cringey flattery and painfully bad jokes and pet names for every single fucking character. I was planning to watch a bit more (only at ep 6) to see if he learns from his failures and stops being an insufferable fuck head, but judging from the post above me, that ain't gonna happen. The MAL charts are in a very sad state. I just wish more people would avoid getting swept up in the hype of whatever is new and flashy, and instead watch some of the truly great, groundbreaking classics. I mean, this show just finished airing and it's already in the top 100 most watched shows in this website. What the fuck? |
| Subaru is one of the most realistic characters I've seen in a fantasy anime. I honestly think a lot of people get too emotional when addressing Subaru and not realize what type of person he was and the situations that he's been in that pushed him in so many different directions. I think a lot of people want yet another OP protagonist that has all the answers, but with Re:Zero you don't get that. You get someone that's broken and human, to the point that it's hard to watch because I think a lot of people can see themselves in Subaru. He had to go through hell and back because of his flaws, but eventually he had to face his problems head on and developed into a great guy because of it. He did not get his way initially, he had to face reality before he could achieve his goals. This is why Subaru is a refreshing character because he brings out a lot of emotions in people and makes you ponder about them, and because of the massive struggle he had to go through and how he overcame it. It's been a while since I've seen a MC go through such an amazing and brutal development. Honestly, people getting upset over him is EXACTLY what the author wants. As for the "Emilia obsession", let's not forget folks that she was the only person to actually recognize him as an equal in probably all of his life. Not only that she offered him kindness, treated him with respect, and saved his damn life. How could the guy NOT feel attraction to her after all that. And after being with her more and more, he learned more about her and realized that he actually loves her. What is so wrong with that? Ya he got desperate in the middle, but Emilia called him out on it and he realized that he was being completely selfish and stupid. Subaru's love and dedication to Emilia is justified by everything we've seen and he wants to support her so let him. Emilia gave Subaru a purpose, there's no wonder he's devoted to her, he's never been devoted to anything his entire NEET life; he's never had a purpose but this girl gave him one. And telling me that he can't fall in love that fast or that it doesn't make sense, then I think you don't realize how complicated love really is. So ask yourself, how did you fall in love with a certain person before? Was it because you guys knew each other for a long period of time, spent an extraordinary amount of time together, and then after all that you had this unbelievable development and right there you realized, "well we've had enough character development so I think it's alright for me to fall in love with him/her now." Ya, I didn't fucking think so. This is what I'm seeing from people with how it's unrealistic for him to fall in love "so fast". And that's when I ask, take a look at your experience and you may actually sympathize with him a little. People don't realize that getting a crush on someone is quite easy and after spending a little bit of time with them that can turn into love quickly. Love is a complicated thing so I think trying to stamp it as "it needs to through A, B, C, and D before it can be justified as REAL love", I think is just naive. So overall, I'd say his love and devotion for Emilia is justified. |
LoomyTheBrewSep 22, 2016 11:52 PM
| Nah you're all good OP, he's annoying as fuck and the main reason I'm having difficulty slogging through this show simo000 said: The MAL charts are in a very sad state. I just wish more people would avoid getting swept up in the hype of whatever is new and flashy, and instead watch some of the truly great, groundbreaking classics. I mean, this show just finished airing and it's already in the top 100 most watched shows in this website. What the fuck? Mmm tough luck asking MAL for something like that xP |
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| Long story short: His brain cells function when the author wants to progress the story.Otherwise,he is dumb AF. |
| The closer you get to the light,the greater your shadow becomes. |
| he is not just a disgusting idiot retard generic mc , he also rejected the best girl so just fuck him |
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| Quite often, yes, I found him annoying. Partially because I identified with him, partially because he was 'too' human. However, it's in the same vein as Shinji Ikari. Annoying as sin, but well crafted. He seemed so human that it subconsciously convinced me it was a person. And I get very frustrated and annoyed at people. |
"I'd take rampant lesbianism over nuclear armageddon or a supervolcano any day." ~nikiforova |
| nothing has been solved or expained in 24 episode i find the mc funny ^^ |
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| Of course he's annoying and of course he isn't Kirito. I wonder, why some people can apparently only think in excesses. If you look for a realistic depiction of normal people in a strange fantasy world, Grimgar does it way better. Other characters get bashed for acting human, but he is somehow alright. The best example for a character acting human and believable is in my opinion still Rygart Arrow. |
| You're a louse, Roger Smith. - R. Dorothy Wayneright This is my fight! No Senpai, this is our fight! - Kojou Akatsuki & Yukina Himeragi  |
| Yeah, literally everything the guy does is really obnoxious lol. I'm surprised he's lived as long as he has with a mouth that big (and annoying). Does explain why he seems to live alone. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| Yeah I dropped the anime because of that. I dont care if he was mad that way to make his character more realistic like a human. I cant stand people that are that stupid in real life and in anime. |
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newbyclive said: Yeah I dropped the anime because of that. I dont care if he was mad that way to make his character more realistic like a human. I cant stand people that are that stupid in real life and in anime. Acting emotionally under stress=/=stupid. Otherwise suit yourself. /shrug. |
Quetzaly said: I liked him at the beginning but when the Mansion arc started he became so annoying that I wanted to drop the anime. I don't mind his flaws or him being weak... He is way to explosive, moody, stalk-y and inconsistent with his actions, he needs to chill. All this on top of him being retarded. Its really nothing to like about him as the story progresses. I was hoping for some real character growth with Subaru. It was a real test of will power making it to the end of this show with him as the MC |
CleesusSep 12, 2017 9:12 PM
| Character growth often happens a bit too easily in fiction, take a sheltered kid that's a bit of an idiot with an ego that doesn't match his achievements and drop him into a fantasy world, it's likely his first thought will be that he's the protagonist in some epic story. Which is often exactly what holds him back, he tries to use that first thought and his almost immediate infatuation with Emilia as a reason to keep pushing forward and to justify his actions and decisions to himself. But as he keeps getting put through hell and all sorts of traumatic experiences, he goes through a psychological mess of switching between fear, despair, and self loathing back to hope and belief. So whenever he gets that little bit of hope, or manages to lose the trauma for a while, he grabs hold of those initial ideas he had when first arriving in the world, and that unfortunately often leads to more mistakes Ep's 14-18 of the anime are a very good example of how mixed up and messed up everything can get inside his own head, and exactly what happens when someone is able to get him to start believing in himself again. When he's too confident he's a fool, and when he's not confident enough he feels completely hopeless. It's a long journey to find the right balance |
| I thought he was fairly annoying (but tolerable) beforehand. However, him declaring himself a knight and pretty much humiliating Emilia in front of everyone is what really made me start to dislike him, especially with the way he reacted after she finally told him to cut his bullshit out. I do like the show so far, but I'd probably enjoy it much more if Subaru wasn't the protag. I personally would rather have an emo depressed MC that eventually lightens up than an obnoxious clown that's completely oblivious to how much of a dumbass he is. And don't give that "oh he's just human" excuse. If I was at some important ceremony that I wasn't even supposed to attend, common sense would tell me to keep my goddamn mouth shut and to not insult an entire army right in front of them. I haven't finished the series yet, so maybe he'll redeem himself eventually. |
ChaosLord121Sep 22, 2017 10:39 AM
| Yeah, he is very annoying. One of the many reasons I decided to drop this mediocre series after 12 episodes. Couldn't stand watching the rest. |
| Yes, he's annoying because he doesn't give up, like a piece of shit, no matter what happens to him. I don't expect you to understand shit, since you've never considered the pain while facing death. |
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Jeroboam said: The protagonist is unbearable to watch His personality is very weak, the story is good but subaru is not improving or learnig at all No bro you're just a Subaru hater, Subaru's a saint bro I'm telling you bro |
| This anime shit is addictive |
Stormen said: I think many are misunderstanding things. It's not him thats annoying, it's the way the writer twist his personality to tell his story. Subaru is at least 2 different people through the show. You can also can see how Subaru transforms from a goofy, likable and perverted guy into a serious, angry and absolutely batshit stupid/crazy person in a flash really. It doesn't even feel like it's the situation that makes him crazy or the things he's experienced, it feels exactly like the writer is desperate to bring this change to him, but can't really nail the transformation, and in the process Subaru becomes a plot device and not much of a proper character like he deserves to be. Many shows fail in this regard. Just see how often protagonists are fun in the beginning, but somewhat non descript by midpoint. Happens more often than you think. People have been pointing out that he's more of a plot device than a character since forever but fans ignore this and get very defensive. |
LordTuchankaOct 22, 2020 6:49 PM
| Lol he is the reason I gave up the anime. He is a complete moron. Even if you aren't OP from the start, nothing prevent you from training and become strong. Too lazy for him apparently. |
Kayleon said: Lol he is the reason I gave up the anime. He is a complete moron. Even if you aren't OP from the start, nothing prevent you from training and become strong. Too lazy for him apparently. In adddition he doesn\t even use his brain, he sane person would atleast do some planning after dying once or twice, but he is just plain retarded. |
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