Would you rather watch a highly ambitious anime that falls flat or a generic anime that follows conventions?
| Would you rather; watch a highly ambitious anime that falls flat on its face? OR watch something completely generic that rips off textbook formulae word to word and tries absolutely nothing new? I'd rather watch something that is over ambitious. I mean if I were to make an anime I'd consider my own limits and try not to bite off more than I can chew but as a viewer I'd rather watch an anime at least try to be something. |
Gesu-Jun 25, 2016 11:57 PM
| I'd rather watch whatever the heck I want without caring about it being either ambitious or generic |
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| I guess the ambitious that falls flat. I would drop the overly generic one after some episodes. |
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| Over-ambitiousness doesn't irritate me at all. It's much better than being boring. Genericism on the other hand........I can watch a generic harem to an extent but I usually end up dropping them 4 or 5 eps in. |
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| hey, I don't care if it's generic as long as it's well-executed being ambitious and then falling flat on its face just makes me cringe |
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| Charlotte was rather ambitious but look at its state here in MAL while every shounen that comes out is generally well received even though it's the same thing over and over. |
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| Falling flat is a cardinal sin in my book, so I'll take the series that uses tried-and-true conventions well. I'll take a Vision of Escaflowne over a RahXephon any day of the week. |
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| genericness still can provide you entertainment... but flatness is dead end... let me give you current season... joker game is fucking abomiantion... i'll take flaying withc anyd ay |
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| Hahahhahahahhah... I wud watch both B-) |
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| neither because i only watch good anime (^: |
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vikki7783 said: hey, I don't care if it's generic as long as it's well-executed being ambitious and then falling flat on its face just makes me cringe I agree. As long as I enjoy it, it's fine. |
| Ambition is attractive in everything. |
| I would watch a generic anime because it could still be ok even if it is generic. If it was an ambitious anime that strayed off topic, or just failed, I would just drop it. |
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| I don't mind generic shows with cookie cutter characters and plots if the end result is good. I'd rather watch that than an over-ambitous show that fails hard. Novelty is not necessarily always a good thing. |
| Generic anime follow the same conventions because it's generally entertaining and consistent. I'd much rather watch something like that over something unique that just fails. |
| With ambitious shows, it depends on the case at hand. If it just tries to do too much, like Charlotte, I'm going to have fun regardless. If it doesn't reach what it tried to achieve, like Shinsekai Yori, it's just going to be awfully sad to see the potential that was wasted. Generic is all right, as long as it has at least some kind of a selling point. Premise, characters, music, whatever. It has to have 'something'. |
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| I dont like overcomplicated stuff so i'd take the generic one, i love generic show anyway since they usually have a lot of similiar/same trope which i like |
| I would watch the highly ambitious anime, not the generic one. If your idea of the generic anime you're talking about are the magic high school action harem anime, then I wouldn't watch them. I don't like watching the same thing over and over unless it's very entertaining. |
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illusean said: Ambition is attractive in everything. Yes, but when it also has leprosy and a club foot, you're not gonna wanna stick your dick in it anymore. |
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Zelkiiro said: illusean said: Ambition is attractive in everything. Yes, but when it also has leprosy and a club foot, you're not gonna wanna stick your dick in it anymore. Just because I find something attractive, doesn't mean I'd want to fuck it, hahaha. |
| Well... how good is the generic show? If the generic show is good I'd rather watch that lol... if it's just average at best than obviously I'd rather watch the ambitious one. Although every time I watch an ambitious show that falls flat on it's face I wind up thinking to myself 'well... guess we'll never see anything ambitious out of that studio again' or 'this idea could've been worked out way better in some other studio's hands' |
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Z-Dante said: I'd rather watch whatever the heck I want without caring about it being either ambitious or generic same with me. either generic or ambitious, i don't really care about it as long as it's enjoyable to watch. |
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| I LIKE generic anime that follow conventions! I'd be more than happy to watch that. I'm also not very critical of anime, and would probably also enjoy an ambitious anime that falls flat. Basically, I like most things, irregardless of plot holes/genericness/ambition/characters etc. |
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| I'd watch either or both; don't really care. I doubt those categories would have any influence on how good it turns out. |
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| I'd rather watch something highly ambitious that fails. At least it has potential to be great, and its failure will be interesting. A generic anime that follows conventions doesn't have much it can do. Look at JoJo. It's a lot of fun but there's a glass ceiling on it that holds it back from greatness. |
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| If I had to choose between watching Big Order again, and watching another anime by Kyoto Animation, I'd choose Big Order. Big Order wasn't good in the conventional sense, but its ambition and lack of restraint made it fun to watch. |
| Both. I wouldn't mind either. There's this commonly perpetuated idea that "generic = bad" which I don't agree with, personally. There's always a double-standard when it comes to genericness - when it includes tropes and clichés people don't personally enjoy, they call it generic. When it includes tropes and clichés that they do like, it gets called cookie cutter. You can see this with Boku no Hero Academia, for instance. Most people are praising it to Hell and back. I quite enjoyed it myself but it absolutely follows the generic conventions that are prevalent in monomyth stories. It's creative in the small details - character designs and their powers - but it's predictable and very typical. Generic only gets used in a negative manner when it suits, basically. But for ambitious anime that fall flat - well, that's a far more inherently negative manner of addressing them than generic anime. Since - as I've already established - generic isn't automatically bad, if you're saying "Would you rather watch something that could be good or bad, or would you prefer to watch something that falls flat?" that's a bit of a leading question. But it's always nice to see something ambitious, even if it doesn't live up to its potential in the end. Something new can be refreshing to see. |
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Gesu- said: Would you rather; watch a highly ambitious anime that falls flat on its face? OR watch something completely generic that rips off textbook formulae word to word and tries absolutely nothing new? 1) I'd rather watch them both. 2) No anime was ever made that only follows formulae and doesn't add anything on its own. I suppose your argument is a strawman. 3) When given a choice between over-ambitious anime, and an anime that follows a formula, but makes it work because the author is good at what he is doing, I would choose the second. |
Maz said: Both. I wouldn't mind either. There's this commonly perpetuated idea that "generic = bad" which I don't agree with, personally. There's always a double-standard when it comes to genericness - when it includes tropes and clichés people don't personally enjoy, they call it generic. When it includes tropes and clichés that they do like, it gets called cookie cutter. You can see this with Boku no Hero Academia, for instance. Most people are praising it to Hell and back. I quite enjoyed it myself but it absolutely follows the generic conventions that are prevalent in monomyth stories. It's creative in the small details - character designs and their powers - but it's predictable and very typical. Generic only gets used in a negative manner when it suits, basically. But for ambitious anime that fall flat - well, that's a far more inherently negative manner of addressing them than generic anime. Since - as I've already established - generic isn't automatically bad, if you're saying "Would you rather watch something that could be good or bad, or would you prefer to watch something that falls flat?" that's a bit of a leading question. But it's always nice to see something ambitious, even if it doesn't live up to its potential in the end. Something new can be refreshing to see. I don't think 'generic' ends there. Bad 'generic' means the anime doesn't do anything with it. JoJo also sticks closely to the monomyth, but it pushes it to the extreme. The art is wacky, the characters are exaggerated as hell. It may operate in a template, but it doesn't settle in it. |
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Gesu- said: Would you rather; watch a highly ambitious anime that falls flat on its face? OR watch something completely generic that rips off textbook formulae word to word and tries absolutely nothing new? I'd rather watch something that is over ambitious. I mean if I were to make an anime I'd consider my own limits and try not to bite off more than I can chew but as a viewer I'd rather watch an anime at least try to be something. i'd respect a more ambiguous show, I'd view a more ambitious show in a better light probably. but I would rather watch something generic if I were forced to, failing miserably is usually a very ugly sight. generic isn't ugly, it's just generic. i wouldn't willingly watch either obviously, but speaking not in a vacuum is it easier to watch the whole series and be disappointed but appreciative, or is it easier to watch bad dull bread and butter? but whether or not i'd consider one generally in a better light also heavily depends on how bad the ambitious anime actually fails. of course, this is a hypothetical question where you can't choose, but to note there's probably instances where I'd prefer specifically one or the other. But I probably wouldn't even remember a entirely generic anime at the end of the day, so there's that. |
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