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| Future!Trunks is such a mama's boy. I love it. I'd be hilarious if Black takes down SSB Goku in one hit. I mean, Trunks said he was stronger than Goku and Black never even went super saiyan against him. |
| I can't see Black overpowering Goku, Vegeta, Whis, and Beerus. He's going to get his ass kicked lol. |
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| Idk if Black goku can transform, but currently ssj3 goku can defeat him. Well if he can power up, I don't think he can be stronger than ssgss goku. |
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| I liked how they talk about the buu saga. Very Good episode,I hope they fight in the next episode. and go all out WOOOOOOOO |
| cool fight between Trunks and Goku and of course Black has a time ring thingie |
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| I've got a theory about Black. What if that's Goku's body and power and all, but that earring he's wearing is allowing some being or force to reanimate him and use his body for evil? Like a zombie, kinda. So maybe instead of Goku Black, it should be Zombie Goku! |
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| Oh,so future trunks canceled out the buu arc from ever happening.interesting development which is great IMO cause that arc stunked and he beat dabura and babidi with his super saiyan 2 form? The hair didnt look spikier though. At all. At least the blue sparks were there. It's good to see goku used super saiyan 3 again. He could have revealed it to frieza too! It still bothers me that none of the main characters pointed out future trunks new hair color change. Dark goku entering the present is awesome! |
The_Nut_CrackerJun 27, 2016 6:28 PM
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| I wonder what Babidi's delay was though. In the future time line, he came much much later (easy to tell by the difference in age of Trunks in our timeline during the buu saga, and him being an adult in his own timeline when Babidi showed up) |
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| Interesting to see Trunks also had an fight against Dabura and Babidi in the future. I hope we get more background of Black Goku in the future episodes. Would be nice to know for what reason he came to the earth. Seems like Trunks became also pretty strong with the SSJ 2, but even that didn't helped against Black Goku. Beerus and Whis got bribed by Bulma haha. Pilaf like always total crazy :D Black Goku finally appeared in the past and of course at that point the episode ended >.< So next week we will the fight with him and Goku. From the preview it looks like the normal Goku has problems with Black Goku. But I think that will be good :) |
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xahjun said: Well, they're being very confusing by never stating things directly, but he does. They full on showed it in the previous arc where SSJ3 Gotenks (who was stonger than SSJ3 Goku in DBZ) couldn't even damage base Vegeta. Yeah, I think it's a little extreme this time round. I was actually expecting Goku to have the capability to defeat SSJ2 trunks in his base form after all that crazy training. It seems like they have two base forms they seem to choose from depending on whether they plan on being serious or not. One is the new one that is infused with the God Ki powerup and the other mimics their base before the powerup. The SSJ forms he just used against Trunks are the same strength as what he used against Beerus at the start of the series. What's really unclear to me is that I don't think that was true of the SSJ form that they used in the Universal Tournament. But they don't seem to distinguish when they are using the powerful form or the weak one so it makes speculating power levels very difficult for all of the new characters. |
Slyr3do0nJun 26, 2016 6:47 PM
Cream_Soda said: I wonder what Babidi's delay was though. In the future time line, he came much much later (easy to tell by the difference in age of Trunks in our timeline during the buu saga, and him being an adult in his own timeline when Babidi showed up) Hmmm... considering that most, if not all the warriors of Earth died in this future (with the exception of Trunks) you could assume that Babadi couldn't find enough powerful energy source to resurrect Buu and break that seal. He probably tried to use a lot of humans over the years (in a post apocalyptic world that is already lacking them severely) and one day Trunks killed him for it. |
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Slyr3do0n said: xahjun said: Well, they're being very confusing by never stating things directly, but he does. They full on showed it in the previous arc where SSJ3 Gotenks (who was stonger than SSJ3 Goku in DBZ) couldn't even damage base Vegeta. Yeah, I think it's a little extreme this time round. I was actually expecting Goku to have the capability to defeat SSJ2 trunks in his base form after all that crazy training. It seems like they have two base forms they seem to choose from depending on whether they plan on being serious or not. One is the new one that is infused with the God Ki powerup and the other mimics their base before the powerup. The SSJ forms he just used against Trunks are the same strength as what he used against Beerus at the start of the series. What's really unclear to me is that I don't think that was true of the SSJ form that they used in the Universal Tournament. But they don't seem to distinguish when they are using the powerful form or the weak one so it makes speculating power levels very difficult for all of the new characters. I think I kinda understand what you mean, but it doesn't feel like an idea that I would buy. That's just meant that they can train and be incredibly powerful in their god form (god base, SSG red, SSG blue) , but if they don't train with their regular human ki (human base, SSJ 1/2/3), their human form would hardly increase at all? Now I'm just more confused haha. I guess it's actually easier for me to accept the concept if I treat it as terrible power level scaling. |
jr_paperbagJun 26, 2016 10:26 PM
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| Goky surely didn't even need to bother going ss against trunks xD. curious how it will go and who this black really is. |
"When everyone else is about to give up, the fighter who becomes the role model, is the true Leader."  |
| i think this arc will have the most cliffhanger at all, it was an intense episode!! 9/10 |
Black goku is badass for sure i like these mad emotions on his face |
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SonofMars said: okay so this is a crazy theory i have..... but it has a base.... you saw right that black had a time ring and he could travel in time .............. and also that he wasnt so surprised to see son goku .... and one more thing that black mentions that he has destroyed many planets and that he had come to do justice to earth by destroying it .... WHAT IF BLACK IS THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION OF ANOTHER TIME LINE or maybe the same time line (cant be same cause son goku is dead in trunks time line or maybe not ) also makes sense why he would say because of justice he is destroying trunks earth because in truth trunks earth was supposed to be destroyed by the androids which because trunks manipulated time (which is a serious offense) survived.... so in order to make things how they were .... he came to this time line...... Since Future Trunks manipulated time in his own timeline, wouldn't the God of Destruction of his own timeline try to kill him? I'm wondering if Future Trunks still belongs to Universe 7 since he is from another alternate timeline. It's possible he still does but that would make the God of Destruction Beerus. Also Black Goku didn't seem to know about Future Trunks time travelling since he seemed surprised when his ring reacted to the area or how Future Trunks suddenly disappeared. Anyway, I'm hoping this arc improves with the animation since I still find it quite poor. Whis, Future Trunks, Vegeta and Goku all looked awkward throughout the episode. |
daman246 said: once again this anime has let me down with its retarted Power level scaling, since when is Goku SSj2 just as strong as SSj2 trunks? i mean didnt goku do that monstrous training with vegeta and whis and years in the chamber again? his normal state is so above trunks that it should be higher than even his SSJ, so tell me again how is goku SSj2= trunks SSj2? is like they said well lets forget about the fight goku had with gold frieza and lets start over again, Goku fought frieza in his base form against a frieza who is league stronger than SSj and SSj2 before the gold form and this is why shounen just doesnt make much sense anymore, yea kids 13 years old wouldnt give a damn about it. they lower gokus power when its plot but then raise it again when its convenient sigh, this here is what you call a mediocre anime, all the nostalgia is really clouding my mind Lolno. Goku was clearly holding back. |
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Cream_Soda said: I wonder what Babidi's delay was though. In the future time line, he came much much later (easy to tell by the difference in age of Trunks in our timeline during the buu saga, and him being an adult in his own timeline when Babidi showed up) Babidi said that he needed the population of Earth to be at a certain level to be able to resurrect Buu. I'd imagine that it took a while for Earth to get to that level again, after all of the death and destruction caused by the Androids. |
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| Loved the Super Saiyan 3 transformation! Can't wait for next week. |
| Nice episode again. Really enjoyed it. |
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| Nice episode! LOL at Trunks doing the super apologizing kneel to the 2 gods! Pilaf's gang is really noisy! You could really calm down the gods using yummy foods! Now that was fast...Goku Black already showed-up! Time manipulation is really a serious crime! 5/5. |
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| Could it be that Black is actually Future Goten? Future Bulma is the one who named him Goku Black, and so far he has not referred to himself as Goku at all. He's the adversary of Future Trunks, and he seems to be wearing one of the fusion earrings which makes me think about Gotenks. Now, I don't know why Goten would be alive at all in the future timeline or be evil, super powerful, or changing into evil shadow stuff, but... just brainstorming. I'm curious about the Mai of Future Trunks's timeline. Mai is only a child in Super because of a botched Dragon Balls wish. I guess something similar somehow happened in Future Trunks's timeline too, but she's had time to grow up again? Otherwise, Mai would be more like Future Bulma's age. I definitely ship Trunks x Mai regardless. |
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SonofMars said: okay so this is a crazy theory i have..... but it has a base.... you saw right that black had a time ring and he could travel in time .............. and also that he wasnt so surprised to see son goku .... and one more thing that black mentions that he has destroyed many planets and that he had come to do justice to earth by destroying it .... WHAT IF BLACK IS THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION OF ANOTHER TIME LINE or maybe the same time line (cant be same cause son goku is dead in trunks time line or maybe not ) also makes sense why he would say because of justice he is destroying trunks earth because in truth trunks earth was supposed to be destroyed by the androids which because trunks manipulated time (which is a serious offense) survived.... so in order to make things how they were .... he came to this time line...... That's a good one actually! If this doesn't happen, I hope something similar does...the idea you have here is gold. |
| As i can see from the preview of next episode i guess goku is gona get his ass kicked by black :P?! anyway a overall good episode really enjoying this arc! |
| Great to see the alternate version of Buu's awakening. The Trunks SSJ2 needs a proper artwork, because it looked ugly and was just a SSJ1 haircut with electricity. 3.5/5 |
| Pretty cool episode, it was nice to see Trunks knowing about future Trunks and all that |
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| Hahha, Pilaf is funny as always. Too bad his theory about having affair or inanimate child weren't true. That would be very interesting. :P Cool to see that Trunks have powered up and achieved Form 2, even though he still no match to Goku or Vegeta for that matter. |
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It's hilarious how half of the thread couldn't get this. Everyone takes everything at face value and doesn't even know Goku's character lol. |
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| Hmm its interesting when beerus is there observing. |
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| the cheese sausage stick, the new delicatessen!!! xD |
| The 3 most interesting things that stood out, other than how ugly it looks: 1) So, it's Chichi's fault Goten never got to meet Future Trunks! Oh man, if I didn't dislike her before, I definitely do now. And I KNOW it's mostly due to the why the writers write her, but man, do they make so aggravating that her death later on is cathartic. 2) No one is going to say how Vegeta says the dreaded G-word? I think this is the 2nd time through Dragon Ball and now Super that he has said "Goku." The seiyuu doesn't do the line well, though, a bit too fast and rough. 3) For time travel being such a serious crime, it sure isn't enforced well... considering Whis has the ability and Kaioshins have time rings. What a load of BS; though everything Whis said isn't. And Whis doesn't really seem to care about it even though he brings it up; why leave to Beerus? I think he doesn't give a crap - he even looked a bit in awe with Future Blooma's notebook. It's probably a crime just for the "lower" beings who would abuse it more often. Other than that, it's a bit amusing to see how much foreshadowing is done in this episode. Plus, is it just me or is Whis rarely looks terrible compared to the other men? Besides him, only Mai and Blooma look drawn nice. Whis best girl, confirmed. |
| Trunks went back 17 years. LMAO Goku jus holding Trunks arm with his child like look and Trunks putting his all into that punch with his mad face. Dat smack in the head. lol at Beers talking to Trunks. Whis figured it out. Trunks talking to Trunks. And the space-time continuum hasn't ended. Goku still trying to find Trunks. Time ring? A pussy opening up in the sky. lol at Trunks thinking Wis is Kami-sama. Fish sausage. LMAO at Chichi grabbing Goten and saying his test is more critical than the Earth. Trunks prevented the appearance of Boo. The enemy really is Son Goku. They call him Goku Black. Bulma came up with it. Trunks fought Goku Black for a year. lol Goku wants to spar with Trunks. Trunks going SSJ2. Bulma put up a field. WTF! Goku going SSJ3. lol at Goku stopping Trunks sword with his fingers again. Kuririn and Piccolo arrive. Oh shit! He's here. Goku meets Goku. |
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| Goku vs. Goku. Yummy action coming. |
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The confruntation begins! Goku vs Goku Black! |
| Thats insane! Wow! The fight between the gokus is gonna be good! |
| Two Gokus, one punch. |
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