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Jun 23, 2016 6:58 PM
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On this website, there's heaps of anime listed, in this list of anime though, there are some fauxnime (false anime) as well like Chu Feng B.E.E and Fox Spirit Matchmaker.
If these are here, why aren't series like RWBY and Chronexia and the Eight Seals? "If some anime inspired shows are here, why aren't they all?" is what many people have asked. What I have to ask is, if some anime inspired shows aren't allowed, why don't they have all anime inspired shows removed? It's probably my biggest problem about this site, and one of my only problems.
Jun 23, 2016 7:04 PM
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chinese anime is there because chinese manga is too; here is admin post on this topic
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=635001&show=80#msg24064451

all `fauxnime` you can think of fit the guidelines, while rwby and chronexia don't
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101 <- db guidelines

if you feel any `fauxnime` doesn't fit the guidelines you can make an appeal here
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1510673 <- modification request thread

there is a database site with an anime-influenced tag, namely hummingbird
https://hummingbird.me/anime/filter?g=anime-influenced
Jun 23, 2016 7:12 PM
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romagia said:
all `fauxnime` you can think of fit the guidelines, while rwby and chronexia don't
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101 <- db guidelines\
It still seems weird that non-anime shows are listed as anime. They should at least list them as anime influenced/non-Japanese anime/fauxnime/whatever. They list manhua as manhua and manhwa as manhwa instead of manga.
Jun 24, 2016 12:56 AM
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Korean/Chinese stuff has been determined sort of a grey area. Everyone kind of accepts it on anime sites. Stuff like RWBY was created in America, therefore against the rules.
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Jun 24, 2016 12:57 AM
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Because they're Asian I guess. and stuff like RWBY isn't.
China, Japan, Korea. It's all the same :3
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Jun 24, 2016 1:25 AM
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Wiziliz said:
romagia said:
all `fauxnime` you can think of fit the guidelines, while rwby and chronexia don't
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101 <- db guidelines\
It still seems weird that non-anime shows are listed as anime. They should at least list them as anime influenced/non-Japanese anime/fauxnime/whatever. They list manhua as manhua and manhwa as manhwa instead of manga.
database limitations i guess
similar to how light novels are under manga
i'd deffo wanna see a chinese/korean animation tag.. but there probably is a reason why they never added any more genres
Jun 24, 2016 1:28 AM
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Possibly because those shows come from Asia and since RWBY isn't from Asia it isn't counted?


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Jun 24, 2016 1:30 AM
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Honestly I'm split on having Chinese/Korean entries in the database. They're not anime, and it feels really silly to have just Chinese/Korean animation outside of Japanese animation, when they won't allow Taiwanese animation for whatever stupid reason. And why not Thai and Vietnamese animation? Are they really that different? In the end no, not really.

Plus, not enough people even watch Chinese/Korean animation to warrant it being in the database imo. I have nothing against it myself, don't get me wrong, and it's still definitely just as legit as anime, but the lines seem to be so fuzzy that we might as well just have Japanese animation in the database. Unless, of course, it's a split production between Japan and somewhere else.

But that's just me, and I know it's not gonna change.
Jun 24, 2016 1:38 AM
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Honestly I'm split on having Chinese/Korean entries in the database. They're not anime, and it feels really silly to have just Chinese/Korean animation outside of Japanese animation, when they won't allow Taiwanese animation for whatever stupid reason. And why not Thai and Vietnamese animation? Are they really that different? In the end no, not really.

Plus, not enough people even watch Chinese/Korean animation to warrant it being in the database imo. I have nothing against it myself, don't get me wrong, and it's still definitely just as legit as anime, but the lines seem to be so fuzzy that we might as well just have Japanese animation in the database. Unless, of course, it's a split production between Japan and somewhere else.

But that's just me, and I know it's not gonna change.
because chinese/korean manga are allowed , thai and vietnamese are not, not sure about taiwan but prolly not
do u even thread

not enough people watch because chinese/korean animation is like <1% of the database
even with a 100% random distribution it would still seem like not enough people watch

on the plus side, we have that furry north korean propaganda cartoon on the site
Jun 24, 2016 1:56 AM

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romagia said:
because chinese/korean manga are allowed , thai and vietnamese are not, not sure about taiwan but prolly not
do u even thread

not enough people watch because chinese/korean animation is like <1% of the database
even with a 100% random distribution it would still seem like not enough people watch

on the plus side, we have that furry north korean propaganda cartoon on the site

Sure, but manhua and manwha have much more presence than Chinese/Korean animation. There are also many more titles that actually get translated to some degree. I'm not saying manhua and manwha should be removed as such, but we don't always have to have the anime database in line with the manga database. We don't allow Chinese/Korean novels AFAIK, even those on which works are based -- but I could be wrong, I'm not that familiar with the way the manga DB works.

I also think lack of subtitles and most of the non-Japanese animation on MAL being for a younger audience don't help popularity issues. I know it sounds silly to say "nobody cares, why have it?" when people don't really care about a lot of shit in the database, but part of me feels like it's almost not worth having them. Then again I also don't agree with claymation/stop-motion animation being on here either, lol.
Jun 24, 2016 4:22 AM

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Zazie122 said:
I also don't agree with claymation/stop-motion animation being on here either, lol.
That's also one of my biggest problems with the site, I think that anime should only be listed if they're made by a studio like Attack on Titan or if they're made by a talented team like Touhou Unofficial Doujin Anime: A Summer Day's Dream, but oh well.
Jun 24, 2016 4:30 AM

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Just remember they also have Kanye West in the database too :)
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OT: Anyhow, I honestly do not know why they allow Chinese/Korean comics but I'm not against them being on MAL. Kind of questioning why manhua/manhwa are on here but not other Asian comics. Though Vietnamese and Indonesian comics are pretty anew to the world. Also why don't they allow webtoons?
Jun 24, 2016 5:38 AM

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As long as it's from East Asia it counts. There are a couple anime on the database from North Korea which technically don't count, but for some reason they're allowed. I would personally be fine with adding French cartoons to the database.
Jun 24, 2016 5:53 AM

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zombie_pegasus said:
As long as it's from East Asia it counts. There are a couple anime on the database from North Korea which technically don't count, but for some reason they're allowed. I would personally be fine with adding French cartoons to the database.
if the Vladivostok people would suddenly decide to form an animation studio they wouldn't be added in the database even if it's from east asia =p

and well, north koreans are still koreans
Jun 24, 2016 6:50 AM

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ixaa said:
Just remember they also have Kanye West in the database too :)
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OT: Anyhow, I honestly do not know why they allow Chinese/Korean comics but I'm not against them being on MAL. Kind of questioning why manhua/manhwa are on here but not other Asian comics. Though Vietnamese and Indonesian comics are pretty anew to the world. Also why don't they allow webtoons?
No idea why webtoons aren't allowed. I'd read One Punch Man (ONE) if I could add it.

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Jun 24, 2016 7:09 AM

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i remember read this post somewhere.. too lazy to digging most of old suggestion thread...

chinese, korea, and china allowed to databese because they use same kanji for anime and manga... hance why many western database for east asia entertainmen site got mixed about this as well (ann, anime planet, baka-updates, ETC).. not to mention many series are outsourching and joint project between them too...

why taiwanese animation not allowed? yes, it still biggest mystery mal has, since they allowed north korean animation... probably just simply because no mods can works on it as usual (too much works)...

why claymation/stopmotion is allowed? when the first this site make, they are not allowed too... it's around 2007 some people suggested about it since they are also animation and this is china/japan/korea anime/animation database no matter what kind animation and art style it is and it's accepted...

why webtoon not allowed? no, infact webtoon is allowed! the difference is mal guidline using physical printing as determination which many web/digital manga fail at that.. not what kind manga is it...
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Jun 24, 2016 10:04 AM

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MortalMelancholy said:
China, Japan, Korea. It's all the same :3

You what?

Hope you're not serious...
Jun 24, 2016 10:10 AM

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MortalMelancholy said:
Because they're Asian I guess. and stuff like RWBY isn't.
China, Japan, Korea. It's all the same :3

rwby actually got it's own serialization in a japanese manga magazine ( it think it was square enix's magazine ), so I would let it count. Monty was partly japanese if i remember correctly
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BrandNew_Lanz said:
MortalMelancholy said:
China, Japan, Korea. It's all the same :3

You what?

Hope you're not serious...

Dead serious. All ching-chang-chong languages belong together--On this website.

addioo12 said:
MortalMelancholy said:
Because they're Asian I guess. and stuff like RWBY isn't.
China, Japan, Korea. It's all the same :3

rwby actually got it's own serialization in a japanese manga magazine ( it think it was square enix's magazine ), so I would let it count. Monty was partly japanese if i remember correctly

Those serialzed manga ARE on the database.
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MortalMelancholy said:
BrandNew_Lanz said:

You what?

Hope you're not serious...

Dead serious. All ching-chang-chong languages belong together--On this website.

Oh. Didn't know we all used English together
Jun 24, 2016 10:21 AM

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Wiziliz said:
if they're made by a talented team like Touhou Unofficial Doujin Anime: A Summer Day's Dream, but oh well.

Dojinshi anime? :O

ixaa said:
Just remember they also have Kanye West in the database too :)

Kanye west the anime music producer?
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BrandNew_Lanz said:
MortalMelancholy said:

Dead serious. All ching-chang-chong languages belong together--On this website.

Oh. Didn't know we all used English together
Isn't the correct term "American"?
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Wiziliz said:
if they're made by a talented team like Touhou Unofficial Doujin Anime: A Summer Day's Dream, but oh well.

Dojinshi anime? :O
A fan made anime
It's on the database just cause of the people involved on the project (Voice actors I believe)
Which is also the reason why the other high quality Touhou dj anime isn't on the database
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Jun 24, 2016 10:26 AM

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Mkim said:
BrandNew_Lanz said:

Oh. Didn't know we all used English together
Isn't the correct term "American"?

No, 'vain attempt at American' would be correct for most of us.
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BrandNew_Lanz said:
MortalMelancholy said:

Dead serious. All ching-chang-chong languages belong together--On this website.

Oh. Didn't know we all used English together

I meant that the anime/manga from the ching-chang-chong countries belong together, when organized on the MAL website.
(And that western animations belong in the garbage can)

Mkim said:
BrandNew_Lanz said:

Oh. Didn't know we all used English together
Isn't the correct term "American"?

No, it's 'MURICAN, get it right.
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Lel, greitai bėk :), va kokie amerikonai geri :), o tie kiniški ir japoniški filmukai tegu eina jie nachuj....hahaha, vistiek debilai hamburgeriu prisiriję esate tai jum kaip ir pochuj ka aš čia prirašiau ar ne?? XDDD Žinau, žinau kad visiškai ne į temą pataikiau bet pochuj lel
Jun 24, 2016 10:29 AM

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MortalMelancholy said:
BrandNew_Lanz said:

Oh. Didn't know we all used English together

I meant that the anime/manga from the ching-chang-chong countries belong together, when organized on the MAL website.
(And that western animations belong in the garbage can)

Well, that's right, but you don't hear any chings outside of China mate.
Jun 24, 2016 10:32 AM

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Oh look, another one of those subtle "Pls add RWBY to the database its da best animu evah ;) xd" propaganda threads
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Lel, greitai bėk :), va kokie amerikonai geri :), o tie kiniški ir japoniški filmukai tegu eina jie nachuj....hahaha, vistiek debilai hamburgeriu prisiriję esate tai jum kaip ir pochuj ka aš čia prirašiau ar ne?? XDDD Žinau, žinau kad visiškai ne į temą pataikiau bet pochuj lel
... Kriu kriu?
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jun 24, 2016 10:38 AM

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Oh look, another one of those subtle "Pls add RWBY to the database its da best animu evah ;) xd" propaganda threads
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Lel, greitai bėk :), va kokie amerikonai geri :), o tie kiniški ir japoniški filmukai tegu eina jie nachuj....hahaha, vistiek debilai hamburgeriu prisiriję esate tai jum kaip ir pochuj ka aš čia prirašiau ar ne?? XDDD Žinau, žinau kad visiškai ne į temą pataikiau bet pochuj lel
... Kriu kriu?


Miss Norwegian, how can I help you?....or are you BPoMAL?
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Konte said:
Miss Norwegian, how can I help you?....or are you BPoMAL?
>Me
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Pls

I don't know, I just wrote kriu kriu because that's one of the few Lithuanian words I know
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jun 24, 2016 11:33 AM

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>Me
>Norwegian

Pls

I don't know, I just wrote kriu kriu because that's one of the few Lithuanian words I know[/quote]

Kriu Kriu only used for pigs who doesn't say Hello/Labas to everyone else....so...from now on I'm a pig....okay.... Союз Советских Социалистических Республик anyone?
Jun 24, 2016 12:38 PM

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Cause it's in the DB. Chinese and Korean stuff has been accepted for ages, I don't think it will change at this point. Too many years of work would be made redundant if you suddenly tried to ban them from the site.

Personally I'd be for including Taiwan and other asian animation as well to make it more consistent, basically a site for all asian animation, but there's no way RWBY or TLA will ever make it on the site as far as I'm concerned. That would just be opening a whole new can of worms and people would start adding any cartoon they ever watched to the DB because if there are no more objective criteria like where it was produced it's all going to come down to someone, somewhere thinking of a random western show as an anime and insisting it should be added because he feels like that.
Because 'it feels like that' is the only argument ever for including stuff like RWBY and TLA on this site. And nobody in the position of a mod wants to deal with a million series being added because someone within the millions of users of this site there is someone who 'feels' it should be added.

No, I can guarantee that geographical criteria are and always will be the deciding factor because it's objective, relatively easy to determine and doesn't leave any room for arguments or interpretation.

And that's the kind of guidelines a huge database like this needs. Not something where every single added entry gets discussed by a bunch of people who decide whether it 'feesl' enough like an 'anime' (or what they think defines anime) to be added. Anyone who disagrees obviously has no idea how to organize a DB without creating infinite amounts of unnecessary work.
I probably regret this post by now.
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