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Jun 23, 2016 3:50 AM
#151
They always keep trying, but they never success. |
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Jun 23, 2016 3:55 AM
#152
Nooooooooooo! Dont do it pleazz!!! |
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Jun 23, 2016 6:16 AM
#153
bikers123 said: Anime gets a lot of exposure throughout the world due to illegal pirating. Most people who pirate stuff wouldn't legally buy most of the stuff anyway (take a poll on any pirate website and the results will speak for itself). Many people get exposed to new shows via piracy and later if they like the stuff they buy the BD or merch to support the creators. If they were somehow able to stop piracy of anime which they won't be able to, they'll only be harming the future of anime as either people will become really picky with what they watch (therefore, less exposure leading to fewer BD/merch sales) or stop giving a shit about anime altogether. You're not wrong that it gives it more exposure, but I don't see how free anime helps the industry when they're getting nothing in return and more than half the people pirating *won't* buy anything. Of course some of them buy the merc, or the dvd set or something to support it, but some is not most. Edit: Anyhow pretty sure they've been cracking down for the past 10 years. |
ashfrliebertJun 23, 2016 6:20 AM
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Jun 23, 2016 6:42 AM
#154
They don't exactly have a working legal alternative, (only thing I would pay for would be a legal DRM-free download that has EVERYTHING EVER) so I'll simply make do without. I only got into anime to alleviate gaming burnout in the first place (which I'm cured of now) |
Jun 23, 2016 7:32 AM
#155
ashfrliebert said: bikers123 said: Anime gets a lot of exposure throughout the world due to illegal pirating. Most people who pirate stuff wouldn't legally buy most of the stuff anyway (take a poll on any pirate website and the results will speak for itself). Many people get exposed to new shows via piracy and later if they like the stuff they buy the BD or merch to support the creators. If they were somehow able to stop piracy of anime which they won't be able to, they'll only be harming the future of anime as either people will become really picky with what they watch (therefore, less exposure leading to fewer BD/merch sales) or stop giving a shit about anime altogether. You're not wrong that it gives it more exposure, but I don't see how free anime helps the industry when they're getting nothing in return and more than half the people pirating *won't* buy anything. Of course some of them buy the merc, or the dvd set or something to support it, but some is not most. Edit: Anyhow pretty sure they've been cracking down for the past 10 years. I've pretty much said everything regarding that topic in this post- http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1524552&show=150#msg46602376 I'd also like to add that the revenue coming from pirates is better than no revenue at all which would happen if they stopped watching anime altogether. Also, pirates bring in legit/legal consumers via word of mouth, blogs, etc. |
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Jun 23, 2016 7:56 AM
#156
Hellspawn28 said: bikers123 said: Anime gets a lot of exposure throughout the world due to illegal pirating. Most people who pirate stuff wouldn't legally buy most of the stuff anyway (take a poll on any pirate website and the results will speak for itself). Many people get exposed to new shows via piracy and later if they like the stuff they buy the BD or merch to support the creators. If they were somehow able to stop piracy of anime which they won't be able to, they'll only be harming the future of anime as either people will become really picky with what they watch (therefore, less exposure leading to fewer BD/merch sales) or stop giving a shit about anime altogether. I thought anime gets most of exposure through TV and movies. That's how anime like DBZ, Naruto and Attack on Titan became big. People don't like when they pirate anime because people blame fansubbing and unlicensed copying of anime content as the primary reason for why companies like Streamline Pictures, Geneon Entertainment USA, Urban Vision, Central Park Media and ADV Films got shut down in the last 15 years. The reality is that bad business practices were the downfall of all of those companies. |
Jun 23, 2016 7:58 AM
#157
It won't work... So many people use KissAnime and KissManga too. |
Jun 23, 2016 9:08 AM
#159
I think the very backwards, brute force tactics employed in regulating piracy is not going to have a great impact on protecting their content. Unfortunately, some governments takes years, even a decade to reach a true resolve, due to a system that is an absolute rigmarole caused by the nature of bureaucracy. There needs to be a radical change. The process of licensing anime and distribution needs an overhaul to be streamlined for more benefits and profits to the studios. In Japan, the Blu-Ray, CD and DVD mediums are still far more consumed than online streaming, which is basically the opposite to western culture. The television channels, studios or a Japanese, multi-lingual site streaming anime world-wide directly could rack in some profits for the original creators and the industry in Japan, but at the cost of all of overseas anime distributors and anime sites. The main issue, and one that is for me (especially accessing older series), is licenses not being available in my country by sites like Crunchyroll and Funimation. Mainly, it's because some companies holding licenses limit who can access them, and those licenses are bought by the company willing to bid the highest. If there was a more unified, automated system of obtaining rights to licenses, a network of many license holders can automatically pay for rights from a company paying a dynamic fee of per-person-views. I think the major flaw in our current licensing is that it is just a flat-rate which causes many non-US countries to be excluded from service. Even if 20-30% of anime viewers weren't in the US, and they were sprawled across many countries with small amounts of viewers, collectively that's some major profit loss. It would be a very attractive business venture, especially for providing content to regions that may not be very profitable. However, I bet all licensors will prefer their good ol' set-in-stone contracts, it's too much of a change. I'd also like to mention that while I do hold an AnimeLab subscription (a legal streaming site in Australia), I am interested in a lot of older series which sometimes you cannot even buy locally, let-alone stream, and due to disc region blocking... well that pretty much means that there would be absolutely no way for me to give profits to the studio. So pirate or not, nothing at all would change for them. In those instances I think it's perfectly fine to pirate. When I have the cash I buy some series and merchandise I like to help out the industry. |
MysteriousSoulJun 23, 2016 9:33 AM
Jun 23, 2016 9:14 AM
#160
Maybe they should just allow / affiliate themselves with anime" to stream their shows globally, just like in Crunchyroll, but better, because there are no region restrictions. That is, if it's possible to do that. I mean people would still pay the same amount to stream anime wherever they are. That way, everyone is happy. yay. |
Jun 23, 2016 9:18 AM
#161
Time to uninstall my Avast inti virust... |
Jun 23, 2016 9:49 AM
#162
Let them try. Internet is a vast world full of darkness that wasn't meant to be disclosed. Peer into it for far too long and you'll be consumed.............. Or that's what they say anyway. |
Jun 23, 2016 12:30 PM
#164
bikers123 said: This line of reasoning completely and conveniently ignores the existence of legal streaming sites, which are a non-television online distribution outlet that people can use to discover/sample shows. And if we're looking at the community here, look at all the piracy-related threads where numerous people say "I don't buy plastic discs," "Buying anime? Lol who does that?" "Why should I buy it when I can get it for free?" "I hate the evil middleman streaming/disc companies, so I'm going to give ad revenue to bootleg streaming sites instead!" etc.Maybe a decade ago, that might've been the case, but it isn't anymore. Even during that time, word of mouth played a pivotal role in the success of those shows, and later on people went on to search for other anime over the internet where they watched other anime via illegal sites. People are moving away from cable networks and almost exclusively use online outlets. I'm sure that if you took a poll on this site and if people answered honestly, you'll find that the majority of users fall under the illegal streaming/download category. These very same people via word of mouth or some other non-tangible mode of advertisement like blogs,etc. propagate anime. They also support shows they like by buying BDs and merch. For most of them piracy is the only solution as distribution (for televising) of most anime is limited, therefore they'll be oblivious to non-distributed anime, thus limiting options. I honestly see only harm being done if piracy is stopped completely. As for the free-advertising/word-of-mouth avenue, where are all these people that're telling their friends, "Hey, you should go pay money for this stuff that I'm getting for free!"? Wouldn't most people be saying on their blogs, "Come join me on this awesome site and watch cool stuff with me for free"? Not to mention, from what I've seen, the rules on illegal streaming sites generally forbid linking to or advertising other streaming sites and/or "money-making sites," which means no one's going to be hearing about legitimate streaming sites or online stores in the comments or forums of illegitimate streaming sites. Which is entirely their business model -- they want to maintain a closed-loop system so people are dependent on their site and spend as much time as possible there, thus racking up more clicks and ad views. Uncontrolled free advertising mainly creates more freeloaders. |
Jun 23, 2016 1:04 PM
#165
Hoppy said: Hellspawn28 said: bikers123 said: Anime gets a lot of exposure throughout the world due to illegal pirating. Most people who pirate stuff wouldn't legally buy most of the stuff anyway (take a poll on any pirate website and the results will speak for itself). Many people get exposed to new shows via piracy and later if they like the stuff they buy the BD or merch to support the creators. If they were somehow able to stop piracy of anime which they won't be able to, they'll only be harming the future of anime as either people will become really picky with what they watch (therefore, less exposure leading to fewer BD/merch sales) or stop giving a shit about anime altogether. I thought anime gets most of exposure through TV and movies. That's how anime like DBZ, Naruto and Attack on Titan became big. People don't like when they pirate anime because people blame fansubbing and unlicensed copying of anime content as the primary reason for why companies like Streamline Pictures, Geneon Entertainment USA, Urban Vision, Central Park Media and ADV Films got shut down in the last 15 years. The reality is that bad business practices were the downfall of all of those companies. True, but I do think people downloading did hurt those companies. ADV still somewhat exist as Sentai Filmworks, but it's still not the same. Since back then, you had to pay $15-25 a DVD volume of 3-5 episodes before we release them all in one set. Seeing that most anime fans are in Middle School, High School and College, they have no choice but to download. Personally, I only download anime if it's not copyrighted in the US seeing that Funimation does not have the rights to Super at the moment. Same goes with Japanese shows like Kamen Rider and Super Sentai seeing that they don't get release here. Eric P. Sherman from Bang Zoom Entertainment a few years said that anime will likely no longer be released in the US anymore if people keep on not buying anime. I would hate it if we only get anime through via fan subs because I do like using CR and Funimation for anime on my PS4. Not to mention I buy 95% of my anime on DVD and Blu-Ray. |
Jun 23, 2016 6:22 PM
#167
AO968 said: KawaiiKamiKait said: And champloo was pretty fucking popular. Not in Japan, it was. An average sale of 4,081 per volume is not really what I would call 'fucking popular'. That's as average as you can get. It got great reviews in the West, but the Japanese obviously weren't that thrilled with it. But manglobe made deadman wonderland and ergo proxy. Yea talk about didn't like it's anime. Averages of 551 and 1,598, respectively. These shows were definitely not received well in Japan, if you consider that a per-volume average of around 3 to 4k is a rough indication that the show broke even. And what's worse, Ergo Proxy was an original show, which means the studio itself footed part of the bill, and thus lost a lot of money on it. And if that wasn't bad enough, their last true original show (Michiko to Haccin) sold absolutely no discs whatsoever, which probably put the studio into a lot of debt. So, even if they didn't go down due to mismanagement (I'll have to see if I can find anything on that), their shows selling poorly overall certainly did. Source: http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view (search for 'Manglobe') Either way, its pretty fucking clear that pirating fucking anime, will lead to the anime producers, aka the anime industries, decline or collapse. Correlation does not equate causation. Piracy can also help the industry. After all, there are plenty of people who wouldn't have even bought a single disc if it weren't for fansubs, or at the very least access to raws. I know I definitely wouldn't have the stuff I bought if it weren't for piracy giving me access to any show I was interested in. Thing is, the industry is trying too hard to fight it, rather than use it to their advantage, and that is because they're still stuck in an old-fashioned way of thinking, and see the internet as a threat. And consider this: in the 70's and 80's cassette tapes were seen as a threat to music, then video tapes were said to destroy television. Decades later, the entertainment industry is still going strong, even with the 'rampant' piracy going on today. So why would this be any different for anime? If you fucking take the time to dedicate a braincell into thinking how anime is produced, clearly MONEY is necessary, and if they try to sell shit that's free online instantly, well it's not going to fucking SELL, then they can't make fucking MONEY, then they can't make fucking ANIME. Now unless that anime makes money like Gundam, with plastic model kits, or its title is Dragon Ball, One Piece, Pokemon, Sword Art Online, Attack on Titan, Detective Conan, or something well, you can't expect them to make money can you? Except that shows still sell (and some quite well, even), despite piracy. Also, you forget that piracy exists because the publishers cannot satisfy the demand, be it due to low (or even no) availability, poor quality, or whatever. As we can see with sites like Crunchyroll, if you offer a good service for an affordable price, plenty of pirates are willing to buy instead of download for free. However, as with the Western entertainment industry, the Japanese are old-fashioned, and fail to see the benefits that the digital age can bring them. Fighting piracy is an uphill battle. Each site that gets taken down will see another one taking its place. In the mid-90's, we had Napster. When that got taken down, people moved to Limewire, and now we have The Pirate Bay and illegal streaming sites to fill the customer's demand. And even if all those eventually get taken down, something else will take its place. If the industry had spent all the money wasted on fighting piracy to find better ways to satisfy its consumer base, they probably would have been making a lot more money now. And its clear as fucking day that sales in blu-ray and dvds are declining. The most POPULAR series of the seasons are getting less sales then the failures of 3 years ago. Citation fucking needed. Then please, tell me why pirating anime has nothing to do with the anime industries decline. Cause it's pretty much fucking common sense and logic that pirating = income decline. I mean who in their fucking right minds would pay $30-$300 for dvd's and blu-rays when they can hop on animehaven or kissanime and stream the shit in hd for free, not to mention watch it on their mobile devices. And you argue that anime these days are not as good or a lot of people hated it, or shit like manglobe made risky investments. Those all still fucking mean that the anime industry is declining. Why the fuck do you think copyright exists? The government didn't pull copyright out of their ass and claim its a law. It's there for a fucking reason. Logic: When a site streams anime for free that you usually have to PAY FOR, it's pretty fucking CLEAR that the anime industry loses potential customers and money. And sites like crunchyroll where you have to pay for a membership, then watch from a limited selection of anime vs kissanime or animehaven which have no restrictions so they basically have every anime out there and stream in 1080p / 720p for free, it becomes pretty obvious which site will come out on top. |
Jun 24, 2016 2:15 AM
#168
KawaiiKamiKait said: Then please, tell me why pirating anime has nothing to do with the anime industries decline. It does, but you're one of those very misguided people who think that everyone who pirates anime would pay for anime if no pirated anime existed. That's not how it works. |
Jun 24, 2016 2:43 AM
#169
Zalis said: bikers123 said: This line of reasoning completely and conveniently ignores the existence of legal streaming sites, which are a non-television online distribution outlet that people can use to discover/sample shows. And if we're looking at the community here, look at all the piracy-related threads where numerous people say "I don't buy plastic discs," "Buying anime? Lol who does that?" "Why should I buy it when I can get it for free?" "I hate the evil middleman streaming/disc companies, so I'm going to give ad revenue to bootleg streaming sites instead!" etc.Maybe a decade ago, that might've been the case, but it isn't anymore. Even during that time, word of mouth played a pivotal role in the success of those shows, and later on people went on to search for other anime over the internet where they watched other anime via illegal sites. People are moving away from cable networks and almost exclusively use online outlets. I'm sure that if you took a poll on this site and if people answered honestly, you'll find that the majority of users fall under the illegal streaming/download category. These very same people via word of mouth or some other non-tangible mode of advertisement like blogs,etc. propagate anime. They also support shows they like by buying BDs and merch. For most of them piracy is the only solution as distribution (for televising) of most anime is limited, therefore they'll be oblivious to non-distributed anime, thus limiting options. I honestly see only harm being done if piracy is stopped completely. As for the free-advertising/word-of-mouth avenue, where are all these people that're telling their friends, "Hey, you should go pay money for this stuff that I'm getting for free!"? Wouldn't most people be saying on their blogs, "Come join me on this awesome site and watch cool stuff with me for free"? Not to mention, from what I've seen, the rules on illegal streaming sites generally forbid linking to or advertising other streaming sites and/or "money-making sites," which means no one's going to be hearing about legitimate streaming sites or online stores in the comments or forums of illegitimate streaming sites. Which is entirely their business model -- they want to maintain a closed-loop system so people are dependent on their site and spend as much time as possible there, thus racking up more clicks and ad views. Uncontrolled free advertising mainly creates more freeloaders. As I already said, most people who pirate wouldn't even bother with legal streaming/download in the first place if piracy were to be stopped altogether, but that's not the point and these are not the people studios should be concerned with. Although these people do bring in legal customers somewhere down the line (mentioned in my previous posts). Legal online streaming like its Television counterpart has limited number of shows with limited accessibility. If accessibility and the database for legal streaming/download were to be drastically improved you would be right and I would be all for legal streaming only, but as of now that isn't the case. You can't deny the fact that illegal sites are easily accessible and have a myriad of options to choose from which these legal sites unfortunately lack. |
bikers123Jun 24, 2016 2:46 AM
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Jun 24, 2016 2:57 AM
#170
DmonHiro said: KawaiiKamiKait said: Then please, tell me why pirating anime has nothing to do with the anime industries decline. It does, but you're one of those very misguided people who think that everyone who pirates anime would pay for anime if no pirated anime existed. That's not how it works. Lol, no. The fuck? Pirating will always fucking exist, I'm just saying that it's clearly a bad thing that we enjoy like everything enjoy, like fucking big macs and instant ramen. And if I bought a bluray box set for every fucking anime I watched, I could probably save everyone in fucking Africa. If pirating was wiped off the internet, then it's hard to imagine what would happen. Crunchyroll needs to pay for licenses and shit so their collection is pretty fucking small. "but you're one of those very misguided people who think that everyone who pirates anime would pay for anime if no pirated anime existed." That statement REALLY fucking ticked me off. Since nothing I said supports that, and it sounds like you're making up some random bullshit that makes me look bad. I'm one of those people that don't know what would happen if no pirated anime existed. I guess I should start downloading every fucking anime on kissanime since Japan is hunting pirated anime down. But buying the limited edition blurays comes with posters and sometimes figures. I'm at a loss on what to do... Download or buy. |
Jun 24, 2016 10:23 PM
#171
oh what happened to the anti piracy thing japan had last year that was a big thing here for a couple weeks? lol give me a fucking break, they pull this shit yearly always aroubd this time failing miserably |
Jun 24, 2016 10:34 PM
#172
GO AHEAD JAPAN....TRY AND STOP US...CUT ONE HEAD OFF AND TWO WILL REPLACE IT!! Pirate 4 lyfe |
Jun 25, 2016 7:30 AM
#174
This man lives in Japan and speaks/reads/writes fluent Japanese. While it is just starting out, this will definitely be some serious shit: Japan is going to start sending people out to find and report to the government these illegal anime sharing sites, bring them down and give criminal charges to the people running it. So it's probably going to be a lot more accurate than the previous automated attempts at stopping piracy that were avoided easily if you put watermarks on your stuff or changed the pitch or speed of your video. "But OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, obviously it will not effect people outside of Japan because those Japanese people don't know enough English to possibly find us! LOL!" Don't be so sure. I'm sure the Japanese are well aware that a HUGE source of the piracy issue is foreign nations offering their anime on their sites. Even if these hunters don't know about KissAnime, or PirateBay or nyaantorrent, I'm sure they'll have tools that will let them find anime episodes even if they have English subtitles on them. Even just search for files with anime names in them. They do know our Alphabet, they call it Romaji. They can run Google searches like "Popular sites to watch Anime in in America" or our now very edgy father England or Canada. Soooo yeah, guess we all need to get accustomed to the legal ways of streaming. |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
Jun 25, 2016 7:37 AM
#176
Even if they come. Life will find a way. |
Jun 25, 2016 7:43 AM
#177
absolute bullcrap, only "first day on the internet" kids can believe that piracy can be stopped |
Jun 25, 2016 7:54 AM
#178
Wow, someone is trying to combat piracy? In other news, humans need air to live. |
Jun 25, 2016 7:59 AM
#179
Pirates once ruled the water, till the point they became the waters of the Earth Put a wall or contain them on a jar to deter them; but they will always find a way. Or unless make a jar that shall contain all of the waters of the Earth |
Jun 25, 2016 8:00 AM
#180
Like I said before: This is going to do as much as it did last time. Jack shit. They can't do anything to sites outside Japan, because those can be spread out, and there are also a bunch of legal issues about it. |
every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
Jun 25, 2016 8:40 AM
#181
The day they get to kissanime is the day I'll start to get concerned. Which is never. |
Jun 25, 2016 8:47 AM
#182
I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. |
Jun 25, 2016 8:48 AM
#183
Ratchetdude231 said: I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. Dude, the only way you could stop piracy is by locking up every singe person with content in a jail cell with absolutely no access to the internet whatsoever. |
Jun 25, 2016 8:52 AM
#184
Ratchetdude231 said: If they shut down kissanime, another website will appear to take it's place. Shut down that one, they'll make another website and go on. There is no way they can take down every single illegal streaming service, simple because another alternative will just appear in it's place.I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. |
Jun 25, 2016 8:54 AM
#185
Gesu- said: Ratchetdude231 said: I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. Dude, the only way you could stop piracy is by locking up every singe person with content in a jail cell with absolutely no access to the internet whatsoever. True but my thing has more to do with how much I appreciate Kissanime for what it is. They have a shit ton of stuff and you can bookmark anime and the quality is pretty good. God knows if I will be able to find a site as good as Kissanime if it does get shut down. |
Jun 25, 2016 8:58 AM
#186
Ratchetdude231 said: Gesu- said: Ratchetdude231 said: I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. Dude, the only way you could stop piracy is by locking up every singe person with content in a jail cell with absolutely no access to the internet whatsoever. True but my thing has more to do with how much I appreciate Kissanime for what it is. They have a shit ton of stuff and you can bookmark anime and the quality is pretty good. God knows if I will be able to find a site as good as Kissanime if it does get shut down. I feel ya, but I doubt that these guys will be able to do anything. As in these 'pirate hunters' probably won't be able to get to kissanime directly. If anything, the DMCA might cause a few problems like it has in the past. |
Jun 25, 2016 9:11 AM
#187
Haha! I'm not concerned about this..I mean, I'm subscribed to both Crunchyroll and FUNimation. The only time I use Kissanime is if both websites don't have what I'm looking for. Plus, the only thing the government can do is shut down illegal streaming/torrent websites and that's it. They don't have the jurisdiction to sue/arrest people overseas. Unless TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) passes then you guys don't have to get worried about being sued. |
Jun 25, 2016 9:15 AM
#188
You can't stop the pirates! It's impossible for them to remove all anime related piracy from the internet even if they hire all specialists they find. |
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground (✿◕ᴗ◕)人(◕ᴗ◕✿) |
Jun 25, 2016 10:00 AM
#189
if they take kissanime i take my life |
currently in a state of denial |
Jun 25, 2016 10:16 AM
#190
Snappynator said: Ratchetdude231 said: If they shut down kissanime, another website will appear to take it's place. Shut down that one, they'll make another website and go on. There is no way they can take down every single illegal streaming service, simple because another alternative will just appear in it's place.I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. Not as guaranteed if people begin being arrested for hosting the sites. |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
Jun 25, 2016 10:24 AM
#191
you know what would actually be news? if those pirate hutners actually did something >_> |
Jun 25, 2016 10:25 AM
#192
Ratchetdude231 said: Gesu- said: Ratchetdude231 said: I am kinda worried that they might get to Kissanime I haven't been watching anime for too long so this is the first time I have seen something like this. I have heard though that there was an attempt to shut down Kissanime in 2014 and it ultimately failed. Worst thing that happened was that the site went down for a week or 2. Dude, the only way you could stop piracy is by locking up every singe person with content in a jail cell with absolutely no access to the internet whatsoever. True but my thing has more to do with how much I appreciate Kissanime for what it is. They have a shit ton of stuff and you can bookmark anime and the quality is pretty good. God knows if I will be able to find a site as good as Kissanime if it does get shut down. cough Torrents cough Even IF kissanime goes down, there will always be alternative websites for you to go watch anime. Plus, there will be people backing up anime that are (only) on kissanime and uploading it to other websites so all things considered, you don't need to worry at all. |
Jun 25, 2016 10:33 AM
#193
You can keep insisting that this time they will manage to stop privacy, but you are just talking out of your ass in the end. These attempts had failed multiple times before, it will fail now too. Come back when they actually succeeded in stopping privacy. And "pirate hunters" lmao. I always laugh when I hear this 'title'. |
Jun 25, 2016 11:25 AM
#194
Before that they should create alternatives... Crunchyroll is great, but lacks a lot of anime. Along with that there isn't a good source of manga either, other than those pirate sites. Spreading anime and manga between numerous sources does not help, because peoples allways choose confort. I am pro eradication of anime piracy, because I know that some of the milions of watchers on sites like Kissanime could bring great profits to the industry, and save it from the really situation in which we find it today... BUT WE NEED ALTERNATIVES. They can't expect that the Western would spend hundreds of dollars on the bluray of a show like the motivated Japanese otaku would do, that is absurd. And they must give the posibility to the comunity to create subtitles in other languages than english too.... In the end, if Japanese peoples wouldn't be such dumb conservative bricks, they may had not find themselfs in such a situation. The western movie, animation and gaming industry is has problems with piracy too, but not so much as the anime one, which has such big problems that they are barely surviving. Just look at how many years it took them until they finaly started streaming, start to comunicate with the Western audience, or modernize their production means (it to a devastating erthquaqe and tsunami to make them move from VHS). |
Jun 25, 2016 11:38 AM
#195
there will never be a way to properly enforce copyright on the internet, for there will always be too many new downloads and sites popping up for even a group of people or an automated system to combat |
Jun 25, 2016 12:09 PM
#196
manga-anime-here xD lol'd at this....japan...Idk, I think that Wapanese pirate hunters and their goverment will be nearly useless at this piracy shit, even if that happens (20+ years) , I know that I won't be watching their cartoons...idk, but if they catch the KissAnime/GoGoanime and other illegal streamers...God, please help them.... #FuckWapan2016 |
Jun 25, 2016 12:15 PM
#197
Merged Threads Remember the 4C's people! Calm, Cool, Collected, and...uh...the other one. |
Jun 25, 2016 1:15 PM
#198
official anime has bad subbed done by people who is not really care about anime, with inconsistencies in calling name in some episodes i prefer fan subbed which is more professional but their releases are somewhat illegal |
Jun 27, 2016 3:32 PM
#199
Any additional news about this? The next week has pretty much arrived. |
Jul 1, 2016 2:19 AM
#200
i don't mind paying money for subscription to a website like crunchyroll , but what i don't like is the regional lock. it really suck if can't watch an anime that you have been waiting for so long, because it is not available in your country. why can't they give legal sites with all anime(old/new), and with restrictions |
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