| Idaten might be more useful to Yuma than Teleporter. Chika with Teleporter and Chameleon would be pretty cool though. Imagine her blasting off an entire area, then she goes invisible and takes cover, then activates Bagworm and teleports away. Rinse and repeat. |
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-jdj888- said: Switchbox is a trigger exclusive to trappers and they need laptop(?) to use it. > Switchbox - We don't know yet if this trigger consumes a lot of trion but assuming that this requires an average trion then this is very useful for supporting Chika and Yuma, though he can only use it in a certain situations so he can conserve his small trion reserve. The other problem is, He needs someone to teach him how to use this trigger or he needs to research about this one.    |
the_foolsMay 30, 2016 6:55 PM
the_fools said: I think he can use switchbox if he will choose to be an all-rounder ( shooter,attacker,and trapper) but We don't know yet if how much exclusive it is if the user is not a 100% trapper like Mai and Fuyushima.-jdj888- said: Switchbox is a trigger exclusive to trappers and they need laptop(?) to use it. > Switchbox - We don't know yet if this trigger consumes a lot of trion but assuming that this requires an average trion then this is very useful for supporting Chika and Yuma, though he can only use it in a certain situations so he can conserve his small trion reserve. The other problem is, He needs someone to teach him how to use this trigger or he needs to research about this one. |
Commentator1 said: Which means despite his weak Trion he can still force people to Shield, dividing their attention as well as forcing them to use one of the two Trigger slots, making Yuma's job easier.As long as you shield, then you won't die... It doesn't matter if his Trion is weak or not, as long as he has enough to activate a Trigger then he's a threat. He doesn't need to use something special no one else is using. |
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| Hound and Asteroid feel like a waste of space on Hyuse's Trigger set. Usually those who go for Hound are people that can't use Viper pretty well, the only who has both Hound and Viper is Izumi iirc. Asteroid doesn't have any special properties so it's stronger than the other bullet types in terms of power, but considering Hyuse's Trion level that small power boost shouldn't really justify using up a Trigger slot. Commentator1 said: Osamu never had Kogetsu to begin with.Osamu, so far: Main: Raygust, Asteroid, free, free Sub: Bag Worm, Spider, Shield, free Is this about right? The next thing is, i guess, he can try Viper. What else triggers can he learn in the "short run"? Like with becoming A-rank and all... a "new weapon"?... Did Osamu still have Kogetsu? I mean, he never uses it anymore. Maybe switched with Asteroid? Yuma, so far: Main: Scorpion, free, free, free Sub: Grasshopper, Shield, Bag Worm, free That's it?... Man Yuma needs some new triggers... Chika, so far: Main: Ibis, Lightning, Hound, free Sub: Bag Worm, Lead bullet, free, free She probably will learn "Chameleon"? Before going on the "Away Missions". Probably for the "Selection Test". What else, does she need? What else can she have?... Tho, personally i don't think Chameleon really suits her... I mean even if you use Chameleon, everyone will see you on the radar; so a gunner/ shooter type can just pumel you... Chika, as a sniper, is supposed to stay "hidden" and "far away" (like Asuma), from everyone. If Chika's close enough to the enemy to use "chameleon" to hide... then that's not good... for her... It's too "close" and dangerous. And you got their Trigger sets all wrong: |
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| Nino doesn't have Viper. Izumi is good with it yes, but they still use Asteroid for its power. But like I said with Hyuse I think he may not need it, and tbh I'd like to see him use other Triggers instead. About Hound vs. Viper, to add, Viper can make really sharp turns unlike Hound, so while Hound does track people it's possible for people with high mobility to avoid Hound (Yuma dodged Nino's Hound in round 4). Again even when he was C-Rank Osamu only had Raygust. He never touched Kogetsu. Having duplicates isn't a waste. Scorpion can be pulled out from any place but the more you extend it the less durable it becomes. So having 2 Scorpions helps, especially when you're already using one and extended it far enough across your body and need to do an emergency block (Yuma in round 4 blocked from his head). Grasshopper is so he can use it faster I guess, each panel is good for one use only, so if he wanted to do Pinball or any complicated moves like that it would be faster to set up with two Grasshoppers. Also to make sure he can always use it even if has Scorpion up (if he has the Scorpion on the same side activated then he wouldn't be able to use Grasshopper), sometimes he loses an arm so he is forced to hold Scorpion with the one that remained, if it's also the one that has Grasshopper then he is screwed, but if he has it on both sides then all is good. 2 Shields are generally recommended because combining them gives you "full guard" which is obviously stronger, though you have a point that Chika doesn't really need it. At least not in a Rank Wars setting; once they get to Aftokrator she might really need it. Commentator1 said: Hound isn't what's slow it's Lead Bullet. Any bullet you apply LB to will become slow.And Osamu probably Viper. Tho, Hound? Isn't Hound supposed to be even "shorter distance"/ "less speed"? Or is that just for Lead bullet snipers, like Chika? Just Hound feels like, "a lot of trion expenditure". And i don't think Osamu can handles it... Just some "weak a$$ Viper"... like his usual self sounds about right... lol xD Hound was never stated to need high Trion either so probably doesn't require much. Viper isn't weaker than Hound. They're both weaker than Asteroid though. Osamu has to first learn how to use Hound to make it useful, aside from Kakizaki squad and that one attack by Nino we haven't really seen much action showing Hound's potential, but in short it's mostly used as a distraction and a way to corner the enemy. When Osamu gets enough battle experience he'll be able to make use of it so I can definitely seem him use it in the future. |
BotatoMay 31, 2016 6:01 AM
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Commentator1 said: I wondered about that a long time ago, but when I checked Yuma was holding the same handle Osamu does when he has Raygust. Then I remembered that Raygust can change shape like Scorpion to some extent and assumed Yuma simply made it into a long sword instead of a heavy wide one.Sedgewic said: Lol...He used Raygust (or a trigger that ressembles raygust), never had Kogetsu ... Well, he used it in "sword mode"... and specially when Yuma borrowed it to fight, it looks a lot like Kogetsu (sword)... Ever since he reached B-rank, he mostly used it in shield mode... And i know there's a "trigger" change there... You sound really happy, I'm glad, i made you happy :) |
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| Ninomiya's Trigger set: Viper can't change course; you set up the course BEFORE you shoot and it moves along the path you set in your mind. However most people can't do the calculations necessary on the field so they set trajectories beforehand. But once the shot is fired it will go along the determined course you set and will never change it. Okay so you're saying weak Viper is more useful than weak Hound, not that Viper is strictly weaker? Then I agree. I didn't say delayed bullets, but because of the way Hound moves and chases targets, you can corner people if you know how to use it, or harass them from multiple angles unlike Asteroid which you need to set up in advance. So yes Osamu could make use of it, and there's no rule saying he can't have both Viper and Hound, I just made an observation that not many people use both. |
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