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May 30, 2016 7:01 AM

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@Thrashinuva
It is and I am.
Good luck with your non sequitur then.
I addressed that.
Me too.
More than you.
Leaving the game on while masturbating to Overwatch porn isn't playing the game.
@Ars_Moriendi
My whole text was about symmetra and I gave you alot of arguments wtf...
You claim her being bad is a fact and proven yet you do not provide any type of argument or evidence.

Her having to be in melee range is irrelevant. She's a supportive role that would function well in TD. The teleporter means that you will be able to engage the enemy team faster after death, that's what it was made for and that's what it's doing.

Your DPS is great when you engage in melee range, then again, why the hell would I do that anyway? Just close down choke points with turrets as you usually do. Team deathmatches have two respawn points, one the opposite of the other, or have you never played any of those before?

You also need 5 seconds to regroup in objective based modes, that does not change that 1 second is better than 5.

Also, extra hp is useful in any type of situation. Extra hp means that the enemy team has less chances to kill you.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 7:24 AM

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@Immahnoob

... If you want evidence then you should watch the Q&A with Jeff, where he talks about deathmatch in general, there he mentions the issue with symmetra & Co.

Congratz you listet some arguments why she is good in general, but none of these are legit in a deathmatch...it does matter that she is close ranged -.-,
A high mmr compositon will have at least 3 widows. And a symmetra, all the tanks/builder will die instantly ...1 widow is enough to wipe out the team, now imagine 3 of them, since there are no objectives, they just simply have a freewin.

Nevertheless I´m sure that you are trolling , therefore there is no need in discussing it further, since it is pretty obvious that Symmetra is bad in a deathmatch, even you know that, but you are to stubborn too admit it , so yeah .

Just play Symmetra on the roundbased maps(similar to deathmatch) and have fun with loosing, hopefully your teammates can reason with you.



You know, I feel really happy right now.

I'm really glad, I was able to meet you in this life.

May 30, 2016 7:49 AM

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@Ars_Moriendi
... If you want evidence then you should watch the Q&A with Jeff, where he talks about deathmatch in general, there he mentions the issue with symmetra & Co.
I don't give a shit about your appeal to authority. She can work in TD, like most characters can.
Congratz you listet some arguments why she is good in general, but none of these are legit in a deathmatch...
Yes, they are.
1 widow is enough to wipe out the team
Then you tell me I'm playing at low levels. Holy shit.
since it is pretty obvious that Symmetra is bad in a deathmatch
Good luck with your lack of argument.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 7:56 AM

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@Immahnoob

Ars_Moriendi said:
Just play Symmetra on the roundbased maps(similar to deathmatch) and have fun with loosing, hopefully your teammates can reason with you.


Have fun.



You know, I feel really happy right now.

I'm really glad, I was able to meet you in this life.

May 30, 2016 8:28 AM

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Ars_Moriendi said:
@Immahnoob

Ars_Moriendi said:
Just play Symmetra on the roundbased maps(similar to deathmatch) and have fun with loosing, hopefully your teammates can reason with you.


Have fun.
This isn't an argument. I could as well not be good with Symmetra on any map whatsoever or just win games by myself because I'm some type of god, it wouldn't change anything.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 8:31 AM

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My 2.5k hours of TF2 finally pays off.
May 30, 2016 8:35 AM

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I have been playing it for quite a bit now. Reached level 30 today and I also was like level 35 in the beta. I play a little bit of everything but I prefer to play pharah or roadhog. Been a lot of fun up until now. We actually tried to play some cup for fun and it went ok until we met an actually competitive team and we had absolutely no chance. Was still fun though and we will try again next week.
May 30, 2016 9:11 AM

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@Immahnoob haha sure, nothing is an argument in your eyes ....

I´m telling you what, I will actually deinstal the game when I see that a Symmetra is performing well on those roundbased maps(unless it´s fake, staged) (3 gold +). That´s how sure I am that she will never see play on those maps / in deathmatch. Have you ever saw a Symmetra on Nepal, China, Greek map ? Be honest please. ^^ In ranked games, she will actually get shit on (reported) for beeing a trollpick on those roundbased maps.



You know, I feel really happy right now.

I'm really glad, I was able to meet you in this life.

May 30, 2016 9:18 AM

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Immahnoob said:
@Thrashinuva
It is and I am.
Good luck with your non sequitur then.
I addressed that.
Me too.
More than you.
Leaving the game on while masturbating to Overwatch porn isn't playing the game.

Sounds like you're all out of counterpoints.
May 30, 2016 9:32 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
We could start an MAL team. I don't have any problem playing with casual players if we're actually trying to think about our roles, and try to win, even if we lose.

I'd love to have a few players around that are hoping to improve.

Caim is pretty good and I'm pretty good.

I play a mean tracer :~)
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May 30, 2016 9:47 AM

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Here-Hear said:
Thrashinuva said:
We could start an MAL team. I don't have any problem playing with casual players if we're actually trying to think about our roles, and try to win, even if we lose.

I'd love to have a few players around that are hoping to improve.

Caim is pretty good and I'm pretty good.

I play a mean tracer :~)
Opus#11733 (NA)

We need a good Tracer. I'm just a semi-decent Tracer.
May 30, 2016 9:55 AM

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Any Europeans here who love to play Overwatch?
May 30, 2016 10:07 AM

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Should i buy overwatch?
May 30, 2016 10:43 AM

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Got a Symmetra legendary skin... I don't even use her that much... Tine to poo in the loo I guess...
May 30, 2016 10:50 AM

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Saberforlife said:
Should i buy overwatch?


I am pretty sure everyone here will say yes. If it seems like fun to you I am pretty sure you will like it. It is a great game pretty balanced and overall a blast to play. I havent met a lot of people who didnt like it just a lot of people who thought the price was too high. If the price isnt a problem for you go for it. I am sure you will get your hours worth out of it.
May 30, 2016 10:54 AM

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Saberforlife said:
Should i buy overwatch?


Here's what the game has to offer:

-Online only
-6 real players vs 6 other real players
-bot modes (still need online)
-No single player modes or any kind of story
-21 different characters each with their own abilities and unique traits
-very team oriented
-objective based
-40 dollars or foreign equivalent
-heavily reliant on you being able to aim
-also reliant on you being aware of what each hero does
-12 maps
-all future heroes and maps will be free
-cosmetic differences for each hero
-can unlock cosmetics for free with in game lootboxes/currency

All I can really think of on top of my head right now. Let it be known though, the game is extremely better with friends to play with. If that all sounds cool to you then go for it. I'm not going to give you a yes or no because it depends on whether you find those traits enjoyable.

Really hope they put out a demo version soon like they do for all their paid games, so people like you can actually experience the game to see if it's cool for you.
May 30, 2016 10:56 AM

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Joopster said:
Saberforlife said:
Should i buy overwatch?


I am pretty sure everyone here will say yes. If it seems like fun to you I am pretty sure you will like it. It is a great game pretty balanced and overall a blast to play. I havent met a lot of people who didnt like it just a lot of people who thought the price was too high. If the price isnt a problem for you go for it. I am sure you will get your hours worth out of it.
Thanks for the honest answer. I was looking forward to buy it but i was wondering if it's upto the price Since it's only a multiplayer game.The gameplay looks decent but I prefer look over stuffs before buying it. After getting some info, i think i'll buy it.
May 30, 2016 11:02 AM

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cause said:
Saberforlife said:
Should i buy overwatch?


Here's what the game has to offer:

-Online only
-6 real players vs 6 other real players
-bot modes (still need online)
-No single player modes or any kind of story
-21 different characters each with their own abilities and unique traits
-very team oriented
-objective based
-40 dollars or foreign equivalent
-heavily reliant on you being able to aim
-also reliant on you being aware of what each hero does
-12 maps
-all future heroes and maps will be free
-cosmetic differences for each hero
-can unlock cosmetics for free with in game lootboxes/currency

All I can really think of on top of my head right now. Let it be known though, the game is extremely better with friends to play with. If that all sounds cool to you then go for it. I'm not going to give you a yes or no because it depends on whether you find those traits enjoyable.

Really hope they put out a demo version soon like they do for all their paid games, so people like you can actually experience the game to see if it's cool for you.

Thanks for the info.
I've heard that the gameplay style is similar to team fortress 2.
If there's demo version, it would've been much better.
I don't want to waste my money on games i don't like so It would've been much better to try it out first. I didn't play the beta version so I have no idea what it's like. Anyway, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
May 30, 2016 11:06 AM

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Saberforlife said:

Thanks for the info.
I've heard that the gameplay style is similar to team fortress 2.
If there's demo version, it would've been much better.
I don't want to waste my money on games i don't like so It would've been much better to try it out first. I didn't play the beta version so I have no idea what it's like. Anyway, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.


It's actually quite different from TF2. The game revolves more around abilities, instead of weapons. The only thing in TF2 that is kind of like that is Ubercharge from the Medic. But the basis is the same. Aim and fire.
May 30, 2016 11:11 AM

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Everyday i see a different Bastion tactic and they still lose. Once i saw Bastion, Reinhardt and Mercy in one place. I countered them with Widowmaker everytime.
May 30, 2016 11:37 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
Sounds like you're all out of counterpoints.
Not really, no.
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@Immahnoob haha sure, nothing is an argument in your eyes .....
No, just what isn't an argument, really...
MrAwesome2016 said:
Everyday i see a different Bastion tactic and they still lose. Once i saw Bastion, Reinhardt and Mercy in one place. I countered them with Widowmaker everytime.
I just played with a group, 2 Bastions, 1 Reinhardt and 2 Mercy's.

We won every game.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 12:08 PM

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I LEGIT thought that Immahnoob might actually be having normal convos in this thread since its a gaming thread ...but no, he is actually arguing with ppl, lmao

@OP: i will buy it when the price goes down, its too expensive for me now ... like 45 euros, wtf >_>
May 30, 2016 12:30 PM

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ZA_WAYD said:
I LEGIT thought that Immahnoob might actually be having normal convos in this thread since its a gaming thread ...but no, he is actually arguing with ppl, lmao

@OP: i will buy it when the price goes down, its too expensive for me now ... like 45 euros, wtf >_>

He was, at first. And then the first solution to any of his problems that someone proposed put him into his default argue mode.
May 30, 2016 1:00 PM

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Pfffttt, I was merely stating some facts. @ZA_WAYD

But both @Thrashinuva and @Ars_Moriendi are kind of slow on the matter. Supposedly, a Demoman copy would not be good in Team Deathmatch in Thrashinuva's feeble mind.




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May 30, 2016 1:06 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Pfffttt, I was merely stating some facts. @ZA_WAYD

But both @Thrashinuva and @Ars_Moriendi are kind of slow on the matter. Supposedly, a Demoman copy would not be good in Team Deathmatch in Thrashinuva's feeble mind.

In a world where a large fat man can pull you from a mile away and one shot you, Demoman wouldn't do too great.

In a world where Soldier, Heavy, and Scout are combined, Demoman wouldn't do too well.
May 30, 2016 1:07 PM

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Ars_Moriendi said:
@Immahnoob haha sure, nothing is an argument in your eyes ....

I´m telling you what, I will actually deinstal the game when I see that a Symmetra is performing well on those roundbased maps(unless it´s fake, staged) (3 gold +). That´s how sure I am that she will never see play on those maps / in deathmatch. Have you ever saw a Symmetra on Nepal, China, Greek map ? Be honest please. ^^ In ranked games, she will actually get shit on (reported) for beeing a trollpick on those roundbased maps.
I literally had a Nepal match last night where a Symmetra beat me in eliminations and damage, getting 3 gold medals in a go. Her charged orb shits on tanks and she's an actual threat in CQC chokepoints.
May 30, 2016 1:10 PM

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Thrashinuva said:

In a world where a large fat man can pull you from a mile away and one shot you, Demoman wouldn't do too great.
Hurr durr, every hook will hit.

So will every tire, grenade, trap and bomb. HURR DURR
In a world where Soldier, Heavy, and Scout are combined, Demoman wouldn't do too well.
Imagine that! There are counters to Junkrat in Overwatch!

WATER IS WET.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 4:45 PM

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The matchmaking is really FUBAR.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 5:53 PM

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I like Pharah. Loving the game. Blizzard doesn't normally disappoint me, except when they do bad things to World of Warcraft, then I cry. But so far I'm happy with Overwatch.
May 30, 2016 6:24 PM

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Phew, I've been wrecking everything with Junkrat. I've been using him continuously on every map and I'm basically destroying everything.

Might just be my hidden Quake 2 skills.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 30, 2016 8:00 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Phew, I've been wrecking everything with Junkrat. I've been using him continuously on every map and I'm basically destroying everything.

Might just be my hidden Quake 2 skills.

You should be glad it's not TD.
May 30, 2016 9:44 PM

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i fucking love this gam

May 31, 2016 1:04 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
Immahnoob said:
Phew, I've been wrecking everything with Junkrat. I've been using him continuously on every map and I'm basically destroying everything.

Might just be my hidden Quake 2 skills.

You should be glad it's not TD.
No, it would have been better if it were TD.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 31, 2016 4:40 AM

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Immahnoob said:
Thrashinuva said:

You should be glad it's not TD.
No, it would have been better if it were TD.

Sounds like you wouldn't actually have any strategies in the matter. You could try your best at least, and maybe the people who die against Bastion so easily would die to you as well.
May 31, 2016 5:15 AM

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For some reason, I like the Arcade mode better than Quick Play now.
May 31, 2016 9:39 AM

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Stark700 said:
For some reason, I like the Arcade mode better than Quick Play now.


Gotta love playing as Pharah in arcade mode, and pretending that the floor is lava.
May 31, 2016 10:20 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
Immahnoob said:
No, it would have been better if it were TD.

Sounds like you wouldn't actually have any strategies in the matter. You could try your best at least, and maybe the people who die against Bastion so easily would die to you as well.
Do you always play Junkrat like Mercy?




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Immahnoob said:
Thrashinuva said:

Sounds like you wouldn't actually have any strategies in the matter. You could try your best at least, and maybe the people who die against Bastion so easily would die to you as well.
Do you always play Junkrat like Mercy?

I can't assume that you know how to play Mercy.
May 31, 2016 3:43 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
Immahnoob said:
Do you always play Junkrat like Mercy?

I can't assume that you know how to play Mercy.
I can't assume you know how to play Junkrat.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 31, 2016 3:53 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Thrashinuva said:

I can't assume that you know how to play Mercy.
I can't assume you know how to play Junkrat.

I guess you'll just have to complain more about things then.
May 31, 2016 4:54 PM

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Bobby2Hands said:

Tracer - fun to blink around/rewind but she needs more powerful guns and more health.

After getting a 20 kill streak including a quadruple kill play of the game I would like to retract my previous statement about Tracer

12 hours play and I've found that the only characters I never play are Soldier 76 and Zarya (though I do plan to learn Zarya at some point)
May 31, 2016 6:01 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
Immahnoob said:
I can't assume you know how to play Junkrat.

I guess you'll just have to complain more about things then.
Are complaints bad, Thrashinuva?

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Bobby2Hands said:

Tracer - fun to blink around/rewind but she needs more powerful guns and more health.

After getting a 20 kill streak including a quadruple kill play of the game I would like to retract my previous statement about Tracer

12 hours play and I've found that the only characters I never play are Soldier 76 and Zarya (though I do plan to learn Zarya at some point)
Soldier 76 is so mehhhhhh and Zarya is rather easy. If you can have your team follow up your ultimate, you'll do wonders.

Those shields are also OP shit.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 31, 2016 6:41 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Are complaints bad, Thrashinuva?

No they are not.

Go and complain to your hearts content. I know you will, and no one can stop you, for you are the complaining champion of complaints, and no one can criticize you for it.
May 31, 2016 6:53 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
Immahnoob said:
Are complaints bad, Thrashinuva?

No they are not.

Go and complain to your hearts content. I know you will, and no one can stop you, for you are the complaining champion of complaints, and no one can criticize you for it.
I doubt people don't have the ability, it's just that most would just avoid to erroneously criticize someone speaking the truth... :^)




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 31, 2016 9:44 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Thrashinuva said:

No they are not.

Go and complain to your hearts content. I know you will, and no one can stop you, for you are the complaining champion of complaints, and no one can criticize you for it.
I doubt people don't have the ability, it's just that most would just avoid to erroneously criticize someone speaking the truth... :^)

Oh no, if they were to even try, you would promptly complain at them. It would be an endless cycle and as the complaining champion of complaints, you would clearly win over their thoughtful solutions to your problems.
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Ars_Moriendi said:
@Immahnoob haha sure, nothing is an argument in your eyes ....

I´m telling you what, I will actually deinstal the game when I see that a Symmetra is performing well on those roundbased maps(unless it´s fake, staged) (3 gold +). That´s how sure I am that she will never see play on those maps / in deathmatch. Have you ever saw a Symmetra on Nepal, China, Greek map ? Be honest please. ^^ In ranked games, she will actually get shit on (reported) for beeing a trollpick on those roundbased maps.


symetras only plus is her little wall turrets which can slow and enemy down and can remove a 100 hp per second if you put them in the right place. If you dont have them in the right place they are worthless but sometime i see them have good effect when placed in a tight corner no one expects. In a deathmatch you will have to have to be in the objective first and put them in a good position otherwise she is useless. her only other plus is her attacks can go through reinhart shield but she will have to be close to have any effect.

she is a weak character based on my following experience yesterday when playing

I was playing a game yesterday and the enemy team where all playing symetra on defense. I played a reaper and got 40 eliminations as I went wraite mode passed the walls of turrets and murdered every symetra I found on the other side of the turret wall while easily clearing the now visible turrets with my shotguns to give my team clear passage. everytime I saw a symetra during that match I was filled with joy because I know there little toy rayguns could not do anything against my shotguns.
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Thrashinuva said:
Immahnoob said:
I doubt people don't have the ability, it's just that most would just avoid to erroneously criticize someone speaking the truth... :^)

Oh no, if they were to even try, you would promptly complain at them. It would be an endless cycle and as the complaining champion of complaints, you would clearly win over their thoughtful solutions to your problems.


by the logic of what is called the internet, using logic on the internet and complaining with logic on the internet is pointless because people are never going to agree on the internet and it will be a endless debate between stupidity and logic until one person gives up.
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Bobby2Hands said:

Tracer - fun to blink around/rewind but she needs more powerful guns and more health.

After getting a 20 kill streak including a quadruple kill play of the game I would like to retract my previous statement about Tracer

12 hours play and I've found that the only characters I never play are Soldier 76 and Zarya (though I do plan to learn Zarya at some point)


I could never play tracer i would zoom around too much during a fight and fall off the edge of the map.
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MCCREE NERFS THANK GOD

ALSO DVA BUFFS INCOMING

TIME FOR MORE KOREAN GIRLS IN SKIN-TIGHT PLUG SUITS

http://www.pcgamesn.com/overwatch/mccree-nerfs-overwatch-balance-changes
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i fucking love this gam


first online game in years to come out with no problems and good optimization is one of the reasons im loving it.
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