Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the episode. |
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LoneWizard said: Jagd84 said: Wat?Why?Envy and jealousy are same things as far as i know?She should actually be called the Witch of Envy, but CR has fairly lackluster translation for this series unfortunately. Ugh, if I say anymore it will be spoilers. Let's just say it will make sense later. |
| Great fucking episode! I was already expecting him to die voluntarily, but to actually jump of a cliff was pretty cool. Also, the ponytail scene was epic! |
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| I died a little bit while Subaru crying in a total breakdown.. WHY SUBARU IS SUFFERING?! |
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Hongu said: He didnt mean it that way...He is nnot talking about a romantic love there,he didnt confess to anyone there lol so calm down ;)"My heart belongs to Emilia-tan!" 20 minutes later... "I love you both, Ram and Rem!" Even in death, Subaru can only think with his dick. What a dumbass. Anyone would suspect the guy who just entered the mansion and didnt talk to anyone for 4 days until their sister die...Since her sister is probably the only reason she is living she probably doesnt give a fuck to the damage she gaev to the mansion =_= |
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| That was intense episode and I feel the intense, great job white fox. |
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L-Ryoshi said: [Dude, what shaman are you talking about? When was it mentioned that a shaman placed the curse on Balls? In any case, did he even TRY to think of a way to get his story across besides speaking about it? Even he doesn't know how the curse works. He could have kept trying. ? I think you are confusing certain things. The "Shaman" (I don't know whether the term was used in the anime) is the magic user, who casted the curse on Subaru, which probably killed him in episode 4 and affected him in episode 5. We don't know whether he or the witch are the same, but what we know is that a curse from this person could kill him. So he should investigatethe Shaman rather than the witch first to get out of this loop. |
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LoneWizard said: Hongu said: He didnt mean it that way...He is nnot talking about a romantic love there,he didnt confess to anyone there lol so calm down ;)"My heart belongs to Emilia-tan!" 20 minutes later... "I love you both, Ram and Rem!" Even in death, Subaru can only think with his dick. What a dumbass. Anyone would suspect the guy who just entered the mansion and didnt talk to anyone for 4 days until their sister die...Since her sister is probably the only reason she is living she probably doesnt give a fuck to the damage she gaev to the mansion =_= What other way could he have possibly meant it? It's obvious he's not talking a bout familial love, since he spent the last episode fawning over them. He clearly just wants to fuck them even after all the terrible torture they've put him through. That makes absolutely no sense, especially since he spent literally every other episode fawning over Emilia. |
L-Ryoshi said: Sometimes791 said: Well, it takes an emotional toll to keep a poker face after all that loops, just to discover that Ram is the murderer. He also attained clues due to this death. And his conclusion lies within logical and emotional judgement. At least he knows that none of the sisters have to die. Seperating things, which you experienced in your life and things, that you know through one revive, is difficult. He grows closer and closer to them, yet the relationships are resetted. Then explain me, why has he below average intelligence? It's average, not lower and not higher. His actions have been quite logical so far, even though only his emotions are shown. The shaman is the one who casted the curse. He hasn't given up. He was desperate that they didn't trust him despite of how he acted in this revive. I say below average because anyone smart enough to have experienced two different sets of revivals would have started to understand the mechanism somewhat. The fact that he's still prancing around acting like a stupid idiot instead of seriously observing his situation and any discrepancies, and his slow uptake and piecing together of information from previous iterations indicates that he is not up to your average Joe's standard. Acting all chummy in a world that has show itself t be harsh, distrusting and suspicious would raise plenty of red flags with people around you, specially ones who've only known you for a few days and are currently experiencing a period of political turmoil AND a succession battle. He should know all that by now, no? Yet he still goes on and keeps doing it. Dude, what shaman are you talking about? When was it mentioned that a shaman placed the curse on Balls? In any case, did he even TRY to think of a way to get his story across besides speaking about it? Even he doesn't know how the curse works. He could have kept trying. As for the last point, I was referring to that last iteration where he just laid in bed for three days straight before crawling to Beatrice to beg her to keep himself from dying. If he'd been smart about things, he would have did that first thing when he revived and then spent three days investigating on how to stop dying, instead of wallowing in his misery in bed. If that's not giving up, then I don't know what is. I'm just gonna say it's easier to say what one should do from hindsight than actually doing it. Just the other day I made so many stupid mistakes and when I looked back on it there were so many alternative paths I could have taken but at the time I didn't realize that. Think about the situation he's in first. He's experiencing this show. You're watching it. |
Hongu said: Not sure if you are trolling or not cuz of that fucking line(Since he never made a joke about a harem even with his weird humor and he is clearly into Emilia-tan) but he is simply saying that he cares about them,he doesnt use "koi" or any other word directly meaning love, he says "dai suki" which could mean all kinds of "like"LoneWizard said: He didnt mean it that way...He is nnot talking about a romantic love there,he didnt confess to anyone there lol so calm down ;) Anyone would suspect the guy who just entered the mansion and didnt talk to anyone for 4 days until their sister die...Since her sister is probably the only reason she is living she probably doesnt give a fuck to the damage she gaev to the mansion =_= What other way could he have possibly meant it? It's obvious he's not talking a bout familial love, since he spent the last episode fawning over them. He clearly just wants to fuck them even after all the terrible torture they've put him through. That makes absolutely no sense, especially since he spent literally every other episode fawning over Emilia. |
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| Is Subaru dying getting repetitive? NOPE I wonder whats going to happen now that the anime is caught up to the manga. It seems that Subaru can't help but want to save everyone from death, first Emilia now Rem. I also still don't see how Rem is supposed to be one of the best characters in the anime, maybe it's just a visual novel thing |
| Sasuke or Kaneki I can't decide |
Jonny_Mhl said: So just to make it clear, she is the witch of jealousy or envy? Because a single mistake in the translation can mess with the entire meaning which the series want to give to the viewers. The proper translation is Witch of Envy. CR is just wrong here. |
LoneWizard said: Hongu said: Not sure if you are trolling or not cuz of that fucking line(Since he never made a joke about a harem even with his weird humor and he is clearly into Emilia-tan) but he is simply saying that he cares about them,he doesnt use "koi" or any other word directly meaning love, he says "dai suki" which could mean all kinds of "like"What other way could he have possibly meant it? It's obvious he's not talking a bout familial love, since he spent the last episode fawning over them. He clearly just wants to fuck them even after all the terrible torture they've put him through. That makes absolutely no sense, especially since he spent literally every other episode fawning over Emilia. The fact that he even likes them that much at all to say something like that after what they did to him is still enough to tell me how much of a gullible idiot Subaru is. He should get protection from them, not pursue them and save them. What does he actually think he'll accomplish by helping the enemy like a doofus instead of himself? |
Hongu said: "My heart belongs to Emilia-tan!" 20 minutes later... "I love you both, Ram and Rem!" Even in death, Subaru can only think with his dick. What a dumbass. Loving the people who are trying to kill you? (one of them actually successfully killed you TWICE). You barely even knew them, how could you legitimately love someone in that time and after they treat you like this? I thought he was all over Emilia, why did he randomly confess love out of nowhere? It's so dumb and contrived. Also, why the hell did Ram randomly start attacking Subaru? Was there any reason, other than her just thinking it's him that killed Rem? That doesn't justify murdering somebody in cold blood, throwing a temper tantrum, and destroying the property of your mansion just because you have a hunch. The logic in this show continues to baffle me, but other than that it was executed very well. The voice acting, animation, OST, and atmosphere were great. (Though Subaru's screaming became comedic after a while, lol) It's just a shame that the writing itself is pretty mediocre and nonsensical. When someone says that they love someone it does not always = romantic love. He's saying that's already attached to them and he cherishes them already. You say he barely knows them but he's died like 3 times already and he's spent pretty much 9-10 days with them. Each day 24 hours. That's surely enough time to get attached to someone. Also why does Ram suddenly attack? Okay, so Subaru meets Emilia in the warehouse with information that he shouldn't know about. He never talks about this so what do the rest think? Maybe he's just weird like that or maybe..he's a spy. They noted this in Episode 4 and if you stop and think about his actions in each timeline it seems fishy. Here he is asking for a meager reward from someone who is to rule the kingdom. Not only is that suspicious but he requests to become a guest/butler where he could easily monitor everyone's actions or murder Emilia. The dude is freaking suspicious. So for lovely timeline where he stays in bed all day. He knows information that he shouldn't have known then screams when waking up in Emilia's house. Then he asks Beatrice to protect him while he's in the mansion. The dude sounds and looks scummy as fuck and has been missing for four days. And then Rem dies ever since his visit so of course she'd lash out at him. He's the most suspicious AND her sister just died. You expect her to act rational? No offense, man. But maybe you should sit back a bit, relax and try to understand this series' so called "baffling logic" from an emotional perspective. Also yeah, Subaru is an idiot. It's a part of his character but I'm not going to defend he's a big idiot. I can see why he'd want to go back and save the two but personally I'd hold a grudge about it regardless of not knowing the reasons why a bit longer. So I understand why you think he's an idiot. The series isn't perfect and of course does have a lot of flaws in many departments but yikes |
YuzurynMay 15, 2016 3:20 PM
| Wow they did an excellent job conveying emotions in this episode. Esp. that hand and eerie bgm scene, which sent chills down my spine. Once again Re:zero has outdone itself. 6/5 |
| Been a while since an anime sent shivers down my spine. I really hope it continues this way. |
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Hongu said: LoneWizard said: He didnt mean it that way...He is nnot talking about a romantic love there,he didnt confess to anyone there lol so calm down ;) Anyone would suspect the guy who just entered the mansion and didnt talk to anyone for 4 days until their sister die...Since her sister is probably the only reason she is living she probably doesnt give a fuck to the damage she gaev to the mansion =_= What other way could he have possibly meant it? It's obvious he's not talking a bout familial love, since he spent the last episode fawning over them. He clearly just wants to fuck them even after all the terrible torture they've put him through. That makes absolutely no sense, especially since he spent literally every other episode fawning over Emilia. It can be used in platonic sense such as in family. He has nor shone any romantic feelings from them otherwise. He also spent more time with twins in this arc than he did wit Emila who had been studying most of the time. |
| i hope you loved this amazing episode with its cancerous themes(suicide as means to solve the problems in life)forced drama involving awful characters that we know nothing about(ram and rem)the nonsencal fight between rem and subaru that of course had to contains tons of gore to show this anime is mature and why the hell is subaru wanting to save a girl that just brutally murdered him? |
| Re:Zero might be the first light novel I honestly like. I change my mind about thinking that all ranobes are bullshit. I'm so glad we are getting a good animation too. I love voice acting, animation, soundtrack... Everything. |
| I don't think people comprehend how deep this actually is. Such an absolute masterpiece |
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Hongu said: Actually,only way to survive those 4 days is actually keeping the twins and himself alive...Even if one of the twins die the other one will think Subaru did it and seek revenge...LoneWizard said: Not sure if you are trolling or not cuz of that fucking line(Since he never made a joke about a harem even with his weird humor and he is clearly into Emilia-tan) but he is simply saying that he cares about them,he doesnt use "koi" or any other word directly meaning love, he says "dai suki" which could mean all kinds of "like" The fact that he even likes them that much at all to say something like that after what they did to him is still enough to tell me how much of a gullible idiot Subaru is. He should get protection from them, not pursue them and save them. What does he actually think he'll accomplish by helping the enemy like a doofus instead of himself? And what is wrong with gullible idiots???Not everyone in this world can be Yagami Light,people are emotional creatures with weaknesses,not robots who can rationalise perfectly... |
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gabrielrroiz said: I don't know why either. I think too many people are 'shocked' from all that happened to actually think about what happened. It makes no sense whatsoever. Clearly the author's intention was to cover up his shoddy writing with excessive shock value and gore, and it's clearly working.i hope you loved this amazing episode with its cancerous themes(suicide as means to solve the problems in life)forced drama involving awful characters that we know nothing about(ram and rem)the nonsencal fight between rem and subaru that of course had to contains tons of gore to show this anime is mature and why the hell is subaru wanting to save a girl that just brutally murdered him? |
gabrielrroiz said: Because he's an idiot and wants to believe in them. He wants to believe there's a reason for why they're doing these things thats justifiable in a sense and that their time they all spent together wasn't a lie and that they really are kind.i hope you loved this amazing episode with its cancerous themes(suicide as means to solve the problems in life)forced drama involving awful characters that we know nothing about(ram and rem)the nonsencal fight between rem and subaru that of course had to contains tons of gore to show this anime is mature and why the hell is subaru wanting to save a girl that just brutally murdered him? He's being an idiot for wanting to believe in them even Ram pointed this out They tell the Ogre story Subaru: I wanna save both Ram: lol ur an idiot but hey I dont know why I bother responding. It's obvious ur here for ur bait. congrats u got some from me |
Yuzuryn said: gabrielrroiz said: Because he's an idiot and wants to believe in them. He wants to believe there's a reason for why they're doing these things thats justifiable in a sense and that their time they all spent together wasn't a lie and that they really are kind.i hope you loved this amazing episode with its cancerous themes(suicide as means to solve the problems in life)forced drama involving awful characters that we know nothing about(ram and rem)the nonsencal fight between rem and subaru that of course had to contains tons of gore to show this anime is mature and why the hell is subaru wanting to save a girl that just brutally murdered him? He's being an idiot for wanting to believe in them even Ram pointed this out They tell the Ogre story Subaru: I wanna save both Ram: lol ur an idiot but hey I dont know why I bother responding. It's obvious ur here for ur bait. congrats u got some from me and i would agree with these reasonings if they did not spent the first half of the episode by having rem cutting of his leg and slowly torturing him to them murder him that is why no metter what reason you say i can not accept it |
gabrielrroiz said: Yuzuryn said: Because he's an idiot and wants to believe in them. He wants to believe there's a reason for why they're doing these things thats justifiable in a sense and that their time they all spent together wasn't a lie and that they really are kind. He's being an idiot for wanting to believe in them even Ram pointed this out They tell the Ogre story Subaru: I wanna save both Ram: lol ur an idiot but hey I dont know why I bother responding. It's obvious ur here for ur bait. congrats u got some from me and i would agree with these reasonings if they did not spent the first half of the episode by having rem cutting of his leg and slowly torturing him to them murder him that is why no metter what reason you say i can not accept it Huh a good response I like that Alright I'm sorry for being harsh on you |
| After this episode I'm mad that myanimelist doesn't allow me to rate it 11, this episode was so intense, I can't control my emotions while watching it. |
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| my god this is too epic the ost the music the camera angles everything so he killed himself because he wants to save Rem and i don't really blame her because she though she's protecting Emilia and she said he has the smell of the witch which i think she's the one who gave him this restart ability |
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gabrielrroiz said: Yuzuryn said: Because he's an idiot and wants to believe in them. He wants to believe there's a reason for why they're doing these things thats justifiable in a sense and that their time they all spent together wasn't a lie and that they really are kind. He's being an idiot for wanting to believe in them even Ram pointed this out They tell the Ogre story Subaru: I wanna save both Ram: lol ur an idiot but hey I dont know why I bother responding. It's obvious ur here for ur bait. congrats u got some from me and i would agree with these reasonings if they did not spent the first half of the episode by having rem cutting of his leg and slowly torturing him to them murder him that is why no metter what reason you say i can not accept it Which featured them same in the episode comforting in him and relieving his nightmares which makes no sense if they are not decent people. Whatever Rem did what she it's clear wasn't done for evil reason nor is she bad person herself. The whole point of those two scenes was to show Subaru things are not black and white or what they seem. That matters a lot since before that point he was terrified of them. If you can't understand than there no helping you. |
Iron_MawMay 15, 2016 3:41 PM
| I want to scream so hard, this show is easily a 10/10 from the first episode SUBARU I LOVE YOU |
| I was quite confused that episode, hmmm |
Jagd84 said: gabrielrroiz said: and i would agree with these reasonings if they did not spent the first half of the episode by having rem cutting of his leg and slowly torturing him to them murder him that is why no metter what reason you say i can not accept it Which featured them same episode comforting in him and relieving his nightmares which makes no sense if they are not decent people. Whatever Rem did what she it's clear wasn't done for evil reason nor is she bad person herself. The whole point of those two scenes was to show Subaru things are not black and white or what they seem. That matters a lot since before that point he was terrified of them. If you can't understand than there no helping you. if you really think it is okay for subaru to justify people that slowly tortured him ripped of his leg healed it just for torturing him more and then killed him without blinking an eye by them conforting him at night than there is no helping you what rem did to him should make her seem the most evil person in his eyes them keeping company for him at night is almost insignificant compared to that |
gabrielrroiz said: Some people get mad at the enemy soldiers when reading avout past wars in history classes...They get all patriotic and hate the guts of the people who did what they thought was right...do you really think it is okay for subaru to justify people that slowly tortured him ripped of his leg healed it just for torturing him more and then killed him without blinking an eye by them conforting him at night than there is no helping you Fortunately i am not one of those people,i can understand that good people might do "bad things depending on perspective"... And if i were one of those twins,my sister,my only family,my everything died and the only suspect run away i would find the guy and torture him to death... #NoRegrets |
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| White Fox doing god's work here. I have not much to say about this episode, other than how amazing it was. Amazing voice acting as well, along with the music. Especially liked that new song used at the end (MYTH & ROID <3). Not sure what the best moment was, but that ending when Subaru goes for the jump was really something. |
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gabrielrroiz said: Jagd84 said: Which featured them same episode comforting in him and relieving his nightmares which makes no sense if they are not decent people. Whatever Rem did what she it's clear wasn't done for evil reason nor is she bad person herself. The whole point of those two scenes was to show Subaru things are not black and white or what they seem. That matters a lot since before that point he was terrified of them. If you can't understand than there no helping you. if you really think it is okay for subaru to justify people that slowly tortured him ripped of his leg healed it just for torturing him more and then killed him without blinking an eye by them conforting him at night than there is no helping you what rem did to him should make her seem the most evil person in his eyes them keeping company for him at night is almost insignificant compared to that Stop ignoring parts of the episode to fill your own bias already. You talking about people who he spent multiple loops to build a sold relationship with during the past flew episodes. He can't just drop that without knowing the why because their reactions here don't make any sense to him. The things Rem attacked him for are things has no knowledge about which is what is causing a rift between him and them. He needs to deal with that if any hope for himself to recover from all of this. |
Iron_MawMay 15, 2016 4:07 PM
| Holy damn what an episode. There are shows where 25 minutes feels like 25 minutes and then there are shows where 20 minutes feels like 5 because I was to drawn in to notice it. I am incredibly glad I picked this up when I saw its page on Crunchyroll. This and Flying Witch and Tanaka-Kun are easily my favorite of the season so far |
| Get your shit straight Brenda |
SimplyKairi said: I don't think people comprehend how deep this actually is. Such an absolute masterpiece the issue i had when i did read the manga at first was not being able to take the story seriously, if you don't take it seriously, it looks like just a clumsy attempt to be edgy, and with cringey cliches all over the place on that side the manga failed for me, it didn't manage to make me care about what was going on, and to look at the story from the inside instead of from the outside the anime instead has managed to make me care about it, so i'm now looking more at the struggle of subaru, which just happens to be the focus of the story guess the people not getting it are still looking at the story from the outside, dissecting the single parts while missing the whole picture, and looking at things from their own personal point of view instead of the characters's point of view |
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Zeando said: EXACTLY...Emphaty is important...We need Kiznaivers in real life too...guess the people not getting it are still looking at the story from the outside, dissecting the single parts while missing the whole picture, and looking at things from their own personal point of view instead of the characters's point of view |
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| Really loving this anime atm! Suburu begging for mercy was sad to watch. Rem was ruthless against him. I never expected Rem to suddenly just die like that. I guess this means there were who have killed Suburu in the house. Really cannot wait for next weeks episode! |
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gabrielrroiz said: Jagd84 said: Which featured them same episode comforting in him and relieving his nightmares which makes no sense if they are not decent people. Whatever Rem did what she it's clear wasn't done for evil reason nor is she bad person herself. The whole point of those two scenes was to show Subaru things are not black and white or what they seem. That matters a lot since before that point he was terrified of them. If you can't understand than there no helping you. if you really think it is okay for subaru to justify people that slowly tortured him ripped of his leg healed it just for torturing him more and then killed him without blinking an eye by them conforting him at night than there is no helping you what rem did to him should make her seem the most evil person in his eyes them keeping company for him at night is almost insignificant compared to that the key word here is "insignificant For You", it was not insignificant for subaru others have already pointed out how subaru could have felt to act that way, you've to start from what any character did and try to make sense of it, not the other way around and saying they don't make sense making sense of things is part of being the spectator |
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Zeando said: gabrielrroiz said: if you really think it is okay for subaru to justify people that slowly tortured him ripped of his leg healed it just for torturing him more and then killed him without blinking an eye by them conforting him at night than there is no helping you what rem did to him should make her seem the most evil person in his eyes them keeping company for him at night is almost insignificant compared to that the key word here is "insignificant For You", it was not insignificant for subaru others have already pointed out how subaru could have felt to act that way, you've to start from what any character did and try to make sense of it, not the other way around and saying they don't make sense making sense of things is part of being the spectator not insignant for me it is insignant with compared to action they previously performed also there is a diference between making sense and finding sense when there is none |
Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Run Forrest Subaru run!  xD exactly! Run SUBARU RUN!!! Fappa said: fuck tennis.By the way guys. The official website of Re:Zero mentions that there might be some time changes in the airing time of episode 8,9 and 10 ( 22nd May - 5th of June ) which could lead to a broadcasting pause. This is because of a tennis event that is during these days. |
ttcchenMay 15, 2016 4:46 PM
| Masterpiece episode. |
Googuix said: You all understood that Rem wasn't a bad person. Subaru is present in almost every scene involving her, so if you came to that conclusion yourself, why couldn't he? I think we might be looking at kid boys and girls who can only see things in black and white. |
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gabrielrroiz said: Zeando said: the key word here is "insignificant For You", it was not insignificant for subaru others have already pointed out how subaru could have felt to act that way, you've to start from what any character did and try to make sense of it, not the other way around and saying they don't make sense making sense of things is part of being the spectator not insignant for me it is insignant with compared to action they previously performed also there is a diference between making sense and finding sense when there is none You do understand you're arguing subjective morals at this point, right? |
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