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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Nice episode, loved the action. Mina was very cute when she was hiding in the bushes :> Although her voice doesn't really seem to match to me... It sounds like Nagi from Kannagi for some reason :l The opening song was also great :> And lol @ the C part |
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| I am disappointed. OP in my opinion terrible. I'm very surprised because I usually had a good SHAFT OP. A few times it was even stupid. Mina hiding in the bushes or when it appeared the next weakling she could not deal with it themselves. She may look like a child, yet she is the queen of vampires. Memory loss in Akira? OK, you can forget about any little girl but that he is a werewolf!? Maybe next EP will be better but as long as it is not good. At least the fight and animation was pretty good. |
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| If there are guys who liked the exposure of that loli chicken breast, I'm really sure I never ever want to meet them. The ED animation is still as uninspiring as first. I'm sure SHAFT is trying to save money on that to use it on Bakemono. (Which is right about damn time now.) Not really any comments on the OP though, I liked the animations and appearances of Akira and Mina, which stayed constant during the whole episode. I especially liked both their glowing eyes and facial appearances. That was pretty smoothly animated, gotta give it to them. For the rest I have no idea how they will develop the plot, it was nowhere the same as the last episode. The fact that Akira all of a sudden turns into a werewolf was kind of 'meh'. EDIT: Wait, aren't werewolves and vampires supposed to be 'archenemies', or is that just a Twilight fantasy? If so, please don't tell me it's true, because then this may turn out to be yet another love story based on two polars. Because that's a thing I can't face. Reality isn't that pure. |
desolatoJan 14, 2010 5:25 AM
| I haven't read the manga, but revealing her body turned me off a bit ... even if she may be like 100 years old or something. |
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Wait, aren't werewolves and vampires supposed to be 'archenemies', or is that just a Twilight fantasy? If so, please don't tell me it's true, because then this may turn out to be yet another love story based on two polars. Because that's a thing I can't face. Reality isn't that pure. Decent episode overall. Washboard sequence was a turnoff but there aren't many such scenes in the manga. Animation is fluid, as can be seen in the OP (dance). Plot is so far going nowhere. 3.5/5 |
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desolato said: If there are guys who liked the exposure of that loli chicken breast, I'm really sure I never ever want to meet them. Other than that occurrence, episode two was a vast improvement. Although, the improvement was more so in animation rather than story... I mean, nothing really unexpected or particularly amazing happened. I also don't quite understand why SHAFT is blindly throwing metaphors at us, but I guess that's just their style ┐(-｡ｰ;)┌. |
ReaperEXEJan 14, 2010 6:27 AM
| Is this some kind of bad joke? so let me get this straight. Despite having only 12 episodes to air they set back the relation between Mina and Akira through the most overused cheap excuse called amnesia after that craptastic plotless filler of a first episode? Man this isn't doing much to increase my hopes of this being a decent adaptation. Also WTF is with the crappy vampire real forms all the time =_= first a lizard now a spider =_= at least some of the BGM's sound decent |
Darklight0303Jan 14, 2010 6:14 AM
| I liked the Opening but the episode itself was kinda generic. The first was way better and more creative. |
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This episode was crazy! Japan has gone far out in American terms but we here in Europe would tolerate this kind of thing more...we are after all more mature in history terms. Yuki introduction was great! I really like her face and hair arrangement=> So does Mine here=>desolato said: If there are guys who liked the exposure of that loli chicken breast, I'm really sure I never ever want to meet them. Not me but fans do and I show the fans what they want so I am with the flat chest community but don't get me wrong as your friend....I just like them 18 but with a flat concept or at least not big like in Ladies VS Butlers desolato said: The ED animation is still as uninspiring as first. I'm sure SHAFT is trying to save money on that to use it on Bakemono. (Which is right about damn time now.) Not really any comments on the OP though, I liked the animations and appearances of Akira and Mina, which stayed constant during the whole episode. I especially liked both their glowing eyes and facial appearances. That was pretty smoothly animated, gotta give it to them. Yes but also OP is well done with the Akira x Mina. I do agree with you on the animations and appearances of Akira and Mina being nice. desolato said: I know they are supposed to be enemies.....that is strange so far but maybe logic will explain itself in all this.For the rest I have no idea how they will develop the plot, it was nowhere the same as the last episode. The fact that Akira all of a sudden turns into a werewolf was kind of 'meh'. EDIT: Wait, aren't werewolves and vampires supposed to be 'archenemies', or is that just a Twilight fantasy? If so, please don't tell me it's true, because then this may turn out to be yet another love story based on two polars. Because that's a thing I can't face. Reality isn't that pure. Darklight0303 said: Is this some kind of bad joke? so let me get this straight. Despite having only 12 episodes to air they set back the relation between Mina and Akira through the most overused cheap excuse called amnesia after that craptastic plotless filler of a first episode? Man this isn't doing much to increase my hopes of this being a decent adaptation. Also WTF is with the crappy vampire real forms all the time =_= first a lizard now a spider =_= at least some of the BGM's sound decent Well I think the spider was better than the lizard to be honest. kurropt said: Oh? Some people wanted this so I give it to them but it's their choice to be addicted to this kind of thing....I provide only. I haven't read the manga, but revealing her body turned me off a bit ... even if she may be like 100 years old or something. |
francismeunierJan 14, 2010 6:29 AM
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| The episode was somewhat an improvement, since I wasn't bored. I'm also glad the animation has improved, but why isn't the plot moving? Its only 12 episodes, so I would have thought the pace would have increased especially with what they did in the first episode. |
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| So the anime is wierd by default . Thought they tried to put the whole 'Camera Recorded' sort of animation in the 1st episode but seems it will prevail thoughtout the entire show. The transitions of events was fast but i liked it . Is Akira a werewolf or is he from a different clan of vampires? Hmmm not that amazing OP or ED. Expect alot from this anime...most probably might dissapoint. -hope not *crosses finger*- |
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| I must say i expected more from this show. Well at least this episode seems to say that we won't have censors. That's a good thing and i hope it goes for violent scenes as well. The problem is that i didn't get what the whole episode was trying to achieve. She obviously went to find that guy but a whole episode just for that didn't seem necessary to me. Also are all vampires gonna turn in to huge monsters? I don't like that. Mina crying over lover boy was annoying. You are the princesses of Vampires just kick the shit of that guy don't play the damsel in distress when you are obviously stronger. Anyway lot's of waisted time and no real scenario yet. Hope third episode would change things. |
DivineTrinity said: I'm just assuming but given the way that this is the way Natsu no Arashi went, they're probably waiting on a season 2. Just assuming.but why isn't the plot moving? Its only 12 episodes, so I would have thought the pace would have increased especially with what they did in the first episode. -Love the OP. Fits the show well. -I liked the first episode but this was a lot better. Really consistent animation throughout which is a nice treat coming off shows that tend to lose it after the first episode. Spider Vampire was....weird but after the gecko vampire last episode, I'm just gonna get used to it. I had to watch it a second time to see what happened but I kinda double-taked at Akira slicing the spider in half. -I haven't read the manga (definitely will after this is over though) but I guess I'm glad that it's not following it considering that it's still ongoing and we wouldn't want SHAFT to leave off at some random point would we? If they're gonna do their own thing and the product comes out good, I'd rather we have that then a made up ending that completely kills how much we enjoy it. -The omake preview was hi-larious. "Who wants some fresh werewolf cuts?" |
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Monad said: I must say i expected more from this show. Well at least this episode seems to say that we won't have censors. That's a good thing and i hope it goes for violent scenes as well. I saw another station TVA and only AT-X will have the censors out I would think. Monad said: A cheaper way to meet Akira, his memories and his awakening with introducing Yuki/school and more of Mina/gel that protects/people going after her life. The problem is that i didn't get what the whole episode was trying to achieve. She obviously went to find that guy but a whole episode just for that didn't seem necessary to me. Also are all vampires gonna turn in to huge monsters? I don't like that. Monad said: Hey.....she can't control that monster because she is not the monster of it....can she do other thing by chance?Mina crying over lover boy was annoying. You are the princesses of Vampires just kick the shit of that guy don't play the damsel in distress when you are obviously stronger. |
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| an improvement, no point to argue there, but mainly animationvise, story, well...akira and mina did meet :3 so I guess there's somewhat of an improvement oh well, they seem to be making their own show without following the manga much, I dunno what to think of it, but it'll probably be worse than teh manga, could still get great though :x |
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| Oh, I like this development :D |
| Well, I thought this episode was waaay better than the first one content-wise, but I still can't shake the feeling that SHAFT is being cheap on this series like they were with Bakemonogatari (photographs instead of drawn backgrounds, only 1 picture instead of an animated ending, ultra-wide-screen on some scenes). I guess we'll see when the DVDs are out. Action scenes were nice though, and spider-vampire looked cooler than that lizard-thing we got last ep. Mina is still cute, but I wish she wouldn't try to sound so old on purpose. |
Monad said: Mina crying over lover boy was annoying. You are the princesses of Vampires just kick the shit of that guy don't play the damsel in distress when you are obviously stronger. QFMFT. Mina acting like a damsel in distress in such a situation is soo OOC it freakin hurts to watch =_= |
| meh episode imo.... so many things happend..and i hated the OP and akira suffers from amnesia?! is that rly necessary? and btw wasn't the pres blond?? |
| SHAFT's rather literal take on the series title in the OP sequence amused me. As for the episode itself, well... I guess I'll have to give myself amnesia of ever having read the manga if I am to watch this and enjoy it properly. Seems like SHAFT is disregarding their own trailer and going original. Oh well, either that or a super compressed manga plot so it's all for the better. I pray their new take on the story would be good on its own right. In short, manga wise this ep is terrible. On it's own it's still decent, but has some crappy plot decisions. (amnesia, just great) In SHAFT, I hope to trust. |
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| It was a lot better than the previous one, but it still has something missing... Hope the show gets better next week. |
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LVader said: Yeah it is missing werewolf action with vampire sucking. Action! Action! People!It was a lot better than the previous one, but it still has something missing... Hope the show gets better next week. |
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| I don't know what I think about this episode, but the stalking ribbon i bushes was so cute! And Akira being a werewolf? I don't know, could be fail, could be awesome, who knows ? :S And seriously, just me that found this kind of ... creepy? -----> |
| "Does your stomach hurt?" ヽ(´Д｀ヽ) Anywho, sweet OP, was hopping for something good （￣ー￣） Woo damn is it nice to hear Tomoya (Nakamura Yuuichi) again? ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ Not expected, but great ⊂( ﾟヮﾟ)⊃ Also, I didn't really expect some kind of amnesia-like backstory ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Oh and since this is the first real episode, I refrained from any serious analyzing ʘ‿ʘ during the previous one ツ But GAH I WANT THE LATEST ARC ANIMATED NAAOOOOO ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ Oh sorry about that ┐（￣ー￣）┌ |
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Oooh Damn I was about to give up until the last part. Akira with amnesia is not cool BUT he got them memories back! I am always interested about how they make animes about mangas that have not ended. I mean anyone who has read the latest chapters knows there is a lot left to be told story wise and a lot has happened, so for 12 episodes I am very unsure if they can pull it off.  |
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| It was sure better than the first episode but I'm still disappointed. It coud have been made so much better. |
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| Huh ok..Mina is so weak..is she Mina? cause i never imagine the Queen of the vampire to be like that And where is Mina's guardian?? she is the queen dammit, even my Town's Mayor always walking with his bodyguard all around, except when he went to toilet Akira's amnesia is kinda mehh..i mean does he remember his Father?? Does this mean the anime will have more focus on Akira x Mina's relationship than the story of the Vampire Bund? I hope it doesn't become a let down series |
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| I don't know, so far only hearing Nakamura is enjoyable for me. Somehow, it doesn't live up to my expectations. I don't know, the last few minutes felt extremely rushed to me. And Akira randomly flying nekkid with a loli in his arms made me roll my eyes xD Chiisus said: And seriously, just me that found this kind of ... creepy? -----> No. Not only you. -shudder- |
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Cenedess said: I don't know, so far only hearing Nakamura is enjoyable for me. Somehow, it doesn't live up to my expectations. I don't know, the last few minutes felt extremely rushed to me. And Akira randomly flying nekkid with a loli in his arms made me roll my eyes xD Chiisus said: And seriously, just me that found this kind of ... creepy? -----> No. Not only you. -shudder- ^ this. |
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Gaia said: It was very creepy.Cenedess said: I don't know, so far only hearing Nakamura is enjoyable for me. Somehow, it doesn't live up to my expectations. I don't know, the last few minutes felt extremely rushed to me. And Akira randomly flying nekkid with a loli in his arms made me roll my eyes xD Chiisus said: And seriously, just me that found this kind of ... creepy? -----> No. Not only you. -shudder- ^ this. But then I was like "Eh. It's just SHAFT being SHAFT" |
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| it was better than epi 1... the bgm sounds nice tho.. Gaia said: Cenedess said: I don't know, so far only hearing Nakamura is enjoyable for me. Somehow, it doesn't live up to my expectations. I don't know, the last few minutes felt extremely rushed to me. And Akira randomly flying nekkid with a loli in his arms made me roll my eyes xD Chiisus said: And seriously, just me that found this kind of ... creepy? -----> No. Not only you. -shudder- ^ this. +1 |
| Why oh why shaft are you adding your own touch to this =( Anything they meddle too much in turns into garbage. Yet another ridiculous transformation and a very rushed trough, incoherent episode. Really hope the show straighten itself up and becomes better though shaft don't really have a reputation of improving, if anything it's the other way around.. And I really don't like Mina's voice actor either, it just doesn't sound right at all for some reason. |
HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. |
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EternalDreamer said: She doesn't really sound like she should ^^;And I really don't like Mina's voice actor either, it just doesn't sound right at all for some reason. francismeunier said: You've done it once again francis, you've made me go: "Wat"HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. So, what'cha on about this time? |
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HoaRy said: Ok just wondering....what about character intros? Still lots to go?francismeunier said: HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. Nah, don't ask for Season 2 after just 2 episodes. There are a lot of shows that do a nice plot in 12 episodes. |
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francismeunier said: "Lots" and lots, there are some, but I wouldn't say "lots" : pHoaRy said: Ok just wondering....what about character intros? Still lots to go?francismeunier said: HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. Nah, don't ask for Season 2 after just 2 episodes. There are a lot of shows that do a nice plot in 12 episodes. |
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| Kinda dissapointed that it doesn't follow the manga but still its good. |
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Oosran said: Ok so then they should just go start the whole story about Mina and her life assasinations and the whole why if that is one of the directions it is taking but the story looks complex....it might take 2 seasons for it.francismeunier said: "Lots" and lots, there are some, but I wouldn't say "lots" : pHoaRy said: Ok just wondering....what about character intros? Still lots to go?francismeunier said: HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. Nah, don't ask for Season 2 after just 2 episodes. There are a lot of shows that do a nice plot in 12 episodes. |
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Oosran said: francismeunier said: "Lots" and lots, there are some, but I wouldn't say "lots" : pHoaRy said: Ok just wondering....what about character intros? Still lots to go?francismeunier said: HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. Nah, don't ask for Season 2 after just 2 episodes. There are a lot of shows that do a nice plot in 12 episodes. Yeah and if SHAFT continue like this and make up their own story it becomes really hard to tell how many (if any) more of the characters from the manga we'll see. |
EternalDreamer said: Oosran said: francismeunier said: "Lots" and lots, there are some, but I wouldn't say "lots" : pHoaRy said: Ok just wondering....what about character intros? Still lots to go?francismeunier said: HoaRy said: Are at least most of the main characters introduced or there are tons more? Season 2 maybe?Animation was really nice, as for the plot it wasn't bad but nothing really spectacular. The after-ED part made me laugh though. Nah, don't ask for Season 2 after just 2 episodes. There are a lot of shows that do a nice plot in 12 episodes. Yeah and if SHAFT continue like this and make up their own story it becomes really hard to tell how many (if any) more of the characters from the manga we'll see. okay, that is true I also hope for more manga plot realtions, but we can only hope. this EP was still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ep 1 they improve. they improve with every episode and we'll have most awesome anime by episode 8 lol...NO WAIT TOO LATE D: |
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| Queen w/o SP... First lizard, now spider, what next? Can I expect some cock in the future? Action? What action? Oh, the 5 sec action against the cop and 10 sec of Akira getting smacked and 5 sec of him jumping around like a dog in heat...Right~ action indeed...Akira's transfo is way too fast....Well done, Shitbo, well done...Not that the original is a masterpiece either....<_< |
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Laevantein said: Huh ok..Mina is so weak..is she Mina? cause i never imagine the Queen of the vampire to be like that Mina may be the Vampite Queen, yes. However, she's not emotionless. In fact, her tough exterior is what enables her to cope with the tasks she faces daily and the fact that a lot of people are after her life. The flashbacks indicate that these two are childhood friends and that he vowed to protect her if the need ever called for it. Now that he forgot all about that or even who she really is (and what he is) makes her sad and to be honest, I can't blame her. Pretty sure any girl would cry over something like that. And where is Mina's guardian?? she is the queen dammit, even my Town's Mayor always walking with his bodyguard all around, except when he went to toilet Does this mean the anime will have more focus on Akira x Mina's relationship than the story of the Vampire Bund? I hope it doesn't become a let down series Anyway, SHAFT seems to have given it a more original spin, but so far, I'm liking it. |
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