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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Damn, this fight is getting so chaotic, even the spectators are involved now... Chrollo's got really powerful, really wonder how many new abilities he acquired by this point. I think this fight will last a bit longer but quite exciting. |
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| Chrollo is winning at the moment, looks bad for Hisoka lol |
| Why did Hisoka say that Chrollo can't control puppets and people at the same time? They are both one hand abilities. Maybe their effects disappear if you don't have the stamp or the cellphone costantly out, since he has to use one of his hands to hold the book open. |
Daw11May 2, 2016 2:28 PM
| I was expecting 3 different broken hatsus of various types but it seems Chrollo is set on using a devastating combo of Manipulation-Conjuration and combining them in the most efficient way. We do know the guy has 2 of the Troupe's abilities in Black Voice and Gallery Fake. Keeping that in mind the guy might have picked up Pain Packer too and could just use it as a last resort if things go south... It turns out worse for Hisoka every week lol. By the way, pretty sure Chrollo explaining all his abilities like that is part of the conditions for his new bookmark. @Drake1000 We were already discussing the whole prophecy thing last week but it seems pretty damn unlikely that Hisoka didn't consider the possibility. He must have some trick up his sleeve or else it's gonna be a total anticlimatic curbstomp. |
KingRequiemMay 2, 2016 3:32 PM
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| What a new chapter already , something strange here , read yesterday he was stuck in bed at the hospital anyway time to see how the fight is going on. l |
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AllenVonStein said: What a new chapter already , something strange here , read yesterday he was stuck in bed at the hospital anyway time to see how the fight is going on. l It's golden week, chapter comes out earlier. I don't think the hospital stuff was him being serious. Hisoka is in a bit of a trouble right now, but I know he has a few trick up his sleeve as well. Decent chapter. |
| I just want to see this fight end already and have the story go back to Kurapika & the dark continent, or at least see Chrollo & Hisoka be involved in that arc because all this is kinda coming out of nowhere.. And what's up with Chrollo having all those phantom troupe abilities? Is that going to be explained later? I want to know what happened to them :( |
| Wow, the Phantom Troupe members sure are loyal to Chrollo to let him steal their abilities... |
| Like someone pointed out before, it also crossed my mind that Chrollo explaining his abilities are necessary to activate the bookmark. He can't be so sure against Hisoka, after all. We have already seen him using two abilities of the phantom troupe members, does this mean he acquired more? That should be interesting to see. And finally, why Hisoka is in such a defence state. I mean, yes he has a strategic mind and Chrollo is surprisingly stronger but he better be hiding something or he won't be so lucky. But I think Togashi is gonna surprise us and Hisoka gonna show some new techniques. |
| I'm loving the Dark Tournament vibe this fight has going on. Even the audience is involved right now |
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| I am yawning with the infodump we got this chapter. >.< Looks like Hisoka is on a disadvantage though. |
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| Chrollo is such a savage, he's even getting the audience involved. I'm liking this fight so far, can't wait to see how Hisoka plans to get out of this situation. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| Hisoka fights with cards so he's gotta have something up his sleeve. lol @ Hisoka expecting Chrollo to act surprised should he be defeated. Chrollo doesn't give a shit if he dies. @KingRequiem lol I bet he does pain packer. The entire tower gets destroyed in the process. |
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| Chrollo and that book are more powerful then i imagined with the combination of using abilities that linger after he switches pages and with being able to using 2 abilities he just turned the crowd/heavens area into a minefield in which he can disguise himself, whilst still holding the checkmate antenna Chrollo is definitely the favorite now, looking forward to the counter attack |
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| I still don't understant very well how is Chrollo able to have abilities besides the ones inside the book. The abilities are in his hand or inside the book? When he stoles an ability, don't they become a page, and can be only used with the book opened on that very page/with the bookmark in that page? |
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| Chrollo's explanation seems to be over, he's either feeding Hisoka some lies or it's part of his limitation or criteria for something else. He's really focused on controlling Hisoka. Z_Tetriminos said: I still don't understant very well how is Chrollo able to have abilities besides the ones inside the book. The abilities are in his hand or inside the book? When he stoles an ability, don't they become a page, and can be only used with the book opened on that very page/with the bookmark in that page? That was his past version he has now upgraded it. He can use the ability the bookmark is on, plus the ability of the page he currently has opened, but if the book is closed he can only use the ability the bookmark is on. |
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MadaraZoldyck said: Why is Chrollo revealing how his abilities work? Usual shounen cliché To be honest , this chapter wasn't really necessary . |
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| Damn this fight is getting more intense, I see death flag on Hisoka MadaraZoldyck said: Why is Chrollo revealing how his abilities work? He want to show up because he can ensure his win. |
HiatusXHiatusMay 3, 2016 1:09 AM
strider98 said: It was necessary. In fact, you won't know how chrollo has turned HA into basically a minefield without this chapter. MadaraZoldyck said: Why is Chrollo revealing how his abilities work? Skill Hunter requires the explanation to grab an ability, and I guess Bookmark requires the explanation to use it. And I don't care . For me there are just texts after texts after texts without a point and trying to get the fight to continue for a long time because shounen. If they would just get to the action without any explaining abilities and monologues it would be a way better series. But of course that implies a lot of deaths |
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xieghart said: targa said: And I don't care . For me there are just texts after texts after texts without a point and trying to get the fight to continue for a long time because shounen. If they would just get to the action without any explaining abilities and monologues it would be a way better series. But of course that implies a lot of deaths Chrollo explained his abilities because he's just ridiculously confident that he will win over Hisoka. He even said this isn't meant as a taunt, so he merely thinks of Hisoka as a dead puppet, and Chrollo has no problem telling Hisoka what he could do because he knew Hisoka can't win. This might also hint that Chrollo has used Lovely Ghostwriter to predict the outcome of this match. Another because HxH is a series that place huge emphasis on strategy and planning on the battles with rare exceptions (mostly from Chimera Ant). You want more mindless fight scenes and action, Dragon Ball Super board is that way. You see that was not my point.I like strategy battles, but if you want strategy fights, this is the worst strategy.Telling your enemy your abilities.You are not confident, you are an idiot . Also standing there 10 minutes without doing anything is not really a strategy.How much Chrollo talked , i am sure Hisoka could have just killed him instantly without any problems.Well , we are talking about Hisoka who want adrelaline , but i was saying in general. @strider98 In my opinion , you are wrong.The whole explaining ability and fights stoping because of monologue happens in most( not all of course ) shounen . Examples: all big 3 ( bleach, naruto, one piece ), dragon ball( don't know about super) , fairy tail, gintama ( here is the best example during the "serious arcs") etc. |
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| Some long explanation from Chrollo but it's necessary. Let just hope we continue having new chapters. |
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| Wow this chapter was so good, both Chrollo and Hisoka are great and have many aces up their sleeves. I'm so hyped I feel like a kid again! Glad that HxH returned and hopefully Togashi won't take long pauses anymore |
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targa said: xieghart said: Chrollo explained his abilities because he's just ridiculously confident that he will win over Hisoka. He even said this isn't meant as a taunt, so he merely thinks of Hisoka as a dead puppet, and Chrollo has no problem telling Hisoka what he could do because he knew Hisoka can't win. This might also hint that Chrollo has used Lovely Ghostwriter to predict the outcome of this match. Another because HxH is a series that place huge emphasis on strategy and planning on the battles with rare exceptions (mostly from Chimera Ant). You want more mindless fight scenes and action, Dragon Ball Super board is that way. You see that was not my point.I like strategy battles, but if you want strategy fights, this is the worst strategy.Telling your enemy your abilities.You are not confident, you are an idiot . Also standing there 10 minutes without doing anything is not really a strategy.How much Chrollo talked , i am sure Hisoka could have just killed him instantly without any problems.Well , we are talking about Hisoka who want adrelaline , but i was saying in general. @strider98 In my opinion , you are wrong.The whole explaining ability and fights stoping because of monologue happens in most( not all of course ) shounen . Examples: all big 3 ( bleach, naruto, one piece ), dragon ball( don't know about super) , fairy tail, gintama ( here is the best example during the "serious arcs") etc. 1. there is a strong possibility that him having to explain his abilities is tied restrictions set into the creation and use of the bookmark (last chapter he mentioned it came with limitations plural, no access to the book when using a two handed ability is not the only restriction) 2. no one is getting instant killed you saw the second Chrollo moved Hisoka instantly followed their reactions are on par with each-other, it's also logical that Hisoka would take the free information |
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HiatusXHiatus said: MadaraZoldyck said: Why is Chrollo revealing how his abilities work? He want to show up because he can ensure his win. If that's the case why chrollo is running away . |
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| Because explaining how your weapons work makes your enemies focus on those conditions. A distraction that Kuroro needs. Just like what the song says, "Give them the ol' razzle dazzle." |
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strider98 said: No, Skill Hunter requires the explanation to grab an ability, and I guess Bookmark requires the explanation to use it. It's all speculation though, both yours and mine. The point of this explanation is to make the readers understand. It's his strategy, he wasn't running for his life. Still have any question? strider98 said: This is also good reason.The_Mad_Wizard said: Because explaining how your weapons work makes your enemies focus on those conditions. A distraction that Kuroro needs. Just like what the song says, "Give them the ol' razzle dazzle." Yea that, and also it can happen that chrollo is intentionally misleading hisoka with false info. |
| Pretty damn good fight so far, and it seems like it's just started. I do wonder what timeline this is happening in though. Is it a flashback or something and this fight is already over? Or is it happening at the same time as the other events in the arc? If it's the latter then I can see the Hunter Association interfering/interrupting this. I mean, aren't Wing and Zushi still in the Tower. |
| This fight man.. it's about to turn into a massacre. Chrollo seems completelly prepared for anything Hisoka might do so i don't see Hisoka winning unless he shows something new. This fight's made me really tho that had Hisoka fought Chrollo back then, Chrollo would've lost his life. |
| Kuroro isn't confident, he's 100% sure. It has something to do with the ability stolen from Neon |
| It's stupid for Hisoka to listen to Chrollo's explanation instead of attacking him right away and not giving him a chance to breathe. The only reason he did that was because Togashi had to explain this to the audience. You can't justify it by saying that Hisoka was being cautious because if he doesn't have a move that could reach Chrollo he would be dead anyway. Waiting for Chrollo to finish his explanations put him in a disadvantage because either he didn't hear the whole truth or thanks to it Chrollo fulfilled conditions he needed for it to work. Plus Chrollo has dozens other abilities which I doubt he will explain so WTF? There has been a decline ever since Greed Island started (and in bug arc plot turned to shit). Election arc was much better but this manga will never again reach York Shin level if only for the fact that Togashi himself is tired of HxH. Drake1000 said: (...) As expected Chrollo used Neon's prophecy ability and already knows the outcome of the fight, I call bullshit if Hisoka miraculously reverses fate without reading the prophecy. It should be either Chrollo's win or him sparing the clown. (...) Firstly, he can't tell his own prophecy. Secondly these prophecies are only tips and not absolute truths. Hence mafia could take treasure away before Chrollo and co. attacked and only Pakunoda died (instead of 4 more Spiders). |
| Chrollo is steadily cornering Hisoka, really looking forward to how he gets out of this bind. Also, I'm really feeling that this fight involves Neon's prophecy ability. |
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