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Well that's interesting, the part about a demonic army.

Lol @ Luffy for getting himself sick. He should of ate that fish later. Speaking of sea creatures, I think those are some rather nasty creatures lurking underwater in Big Mom's area. Also kinda curious about that weird guy with the eyebrows.
May 2, 2016 8:02 AM
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The food poisoning feels like a shitty excuse to remove Luffy from the plot temporarily. I hope I'm wrong about this.

It was interesting to hear more about Germa 66.

Is that Lola? Wtf!!!

A member of Sanji's family? Hype! The year of Sanji is here!
May 2, 2016 8:59 AM
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Sanji's brother :O
It seems that the curly eye brow genes run strong in this family haha.

I'm pretty sure that girl is Lola or maybe it's her sister/mom.
edit: Do you guys think that Capone married into the Charlotte family?
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YOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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The food poisoning feels like a shitty excuse to remove Luffy from the plot temporarily. I hope I'm wrong about this.
You are not as it´s obvious and would fullfill no other purpose considerung Luffy was immune to Caesars poison.


Rin said:
Sanji's brother :O.

I´m gonna call it now and ruin the fun for everyone, that´s not Sanji´s brother, that is actually Sanji himself. There´s no reason to hide the brothers design.

Remember when Nami killed Ussop? What a twist!
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Isterio said:
G_Spark233 said:
The food poisoning feels like a shitty excuse to remove Luffy from the plot temporarily. I hope I'm wrong about this.
You are not as it´s obvious and would fullfill no other purpose considerung Luffy was immune to Caesars poison.


Rin said:
Sanji's brother :O.

I´m gonna call it now and ruin the fun for everyone, that´s not Sanji´s brother, that is actually Sanji himself. There´s no reason to hide the brothers design.

Remember when Nami killed Ussop? What a twist!


lmao look at the eyebrow it's not Sanji
May 2, 2016 9:23 AM
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So Sanji is not going to married Charlotte, must have found out about the third eye, or else why the change of heart? That is the only explanation.

So Luffy almost got poison, Nami stick to navigating. Well the poor crew they are hungry, they need Sanji.

Are we going to meet Sanji, looks like, just when things gets good, break time. We just had Golden Week, how much more of a break do you need Oda. Hopefully Oda lives long enough to finish this series.
May 2, 2016 9:33 AM
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lmao look at the eyebrow it's not Sanji




Still proves nothing
May 2, 2016 9:35 AM
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So Sanji is not going to married Charlotte, must have found out about the third eye, or else why the change of heart? That is the only explanation.

So Luffy almost got poison, Nami stick to navigating. Well the poor crew they are hungry, they need Sanji.

Are we going to meet Sanji, looks like, just when things gets good, break time. We just had Golden Week, how much more of a break do you need Oda. Hopefully Oda lives long enough to finish this series.


only because sanji thinks pudding is hot doesnt mean he wants to marry her. why is it namis fault that luffy got poisoned ? give oda a break dude. he gets less than 5-6 hours of sleep per day. also its not like they had much more free time because of golden week. the chapter only got delayed a few days. if oda doesnt have breaks he wont live long enough for sure.
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May 2, 2016 9:37 AM

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Isterio said:
Inori_is_love said:


lmao look at the eyebrow it's not Sanji




Still proves nothing


well they are different. sanjis eyebrows curl inside and the ones of his Brother(?) outside. of course its not sanji wtf
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May 2, 2016 10:00 AM

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Isterio said:
Inori_is_love said:


lmao look at the eyebrow it's not Sanji




Still proves nothing

It proves nothing? We see Sanji in the exact same chapter and his eyebrows are the same way they always were.

This guy is not Sanji lmao
May 2, 2016 10:12 AM

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Even a half brainer would know that it's not Sanji, the right question would be why would Oda hide the design if it was Sanji especially after we saw him many times in this chapter? The answers is simply because it's not Sanji.
And the eyebrows curling way is different, Sanji is clockwise while that guy is counter clockwise and this guy had no beard or mustache..
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Fun chp. Sanji's acting like a BOSS ordering Vito around. Lol at Caesar being shitted on lol
That's probably Lola's sis or mom. Lola's would've recognized Sanji

The Sora stuff seem interesting.

The Sunny stuff was funny. Luffy dead XD Brook being lol and Chopper eating while worrying XD Carrot is being way too cute right now <3

Germa was awesome to see. I wonder how that guy's hair will be like? Hope they live up to hype in terms of strength

Oda's Grandma died that's the reason for the break
May 2, 2016 10:17 AM

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Pretty interesting and fun chapter.

Sanji getting quite the treatment as the son of the Vinsmoke family.

They guys aboard the Sunny sure had it rough, Those faces dry from starvation were pretty funny though.
Even in the most dire situations Brook can't get his chance with Nami's pantsu XD

Looks like Luffy's battle against poison way back in Impel Down is proving it's worth showing that he is fairly immune to poison.
The Curly Brow family is here, The year of Sanji has begun :D
May 2, 2016 10:21 AM

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Oda's Grandma died that's the reason for the break
but it happened more than one week ago.
May 2, 2016 10:25 AM

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So..Queer Eye Tv-Show hit the Weatheria huh?

I hope...Seriously hope that Sanji will not Break....ah Caesar is here...

YEY!!!! I KNEW!!! SHE IS MEMBER OF THE BIG MOM FAMILY!!!! LOLA IS HERE!!!! ANOTHER ALLY INSIDE OF THE ENEMY!!! LOLA will sure as hell Help Luffy and Co...Especially when Nami is there! XD ....or wait....is that her sister?

Lol...Thank god of Luffy's Poison Tolerance...

....SANJI'S BROTHER AT THE FINAL PAGE!? O_O OR RELATIVE AT LEAST!!! AND WHAT!? A BREAK!? DID THEY NOT HAVE A BREAK JUST LAST WEEK!?
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May 2, 2016 10:27 AM

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I mean, it could be Sanji, but it was clearly made to appear like it wasn't Sanji himself. It curving the other way in one episode if anything is a animation mistake, but the "who exactly is Sanji's family" editor text and the eyebrow appearing the other way around on a close-up with emphasis on the eyes is makes it seem pretty clear they're trying to say "it's not Sanji'. Even if it is. Especially since this arc is about his family.

Lola's sister hype.
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May 2, 2016 10:41 AM
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awesome chapter.
Sorry to hear bout Oda's Grand mother
That can't be Sanji, could be sanji's brother since he is all young and stuff.
I hope luffy will get a part in this one but he is out cold for now.
Wonder why Germa appeared instead of tart bases.
That might be lola but Sanji may though of a plan and told Lola already, so they acting like they don't know each other.
Don't know how thing will go on from here.
May 2, 2016 11:10 AM

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Well considering the fact that the poison on the fish's skin was strong enough to kill someone instantly (Chopper said that, right? if not, sorry), it's easier to get over the fact that Luffy's in that pitiful state xD

Damn I wish they didn't take a break, I'm curious as hell right now.

ALSO guys, I wanna share this amazing AU of Sanji's brothers that I found, it's really great and it makes me sad that it can't be canon... but... ♥
Brotherhood AU
May 2, 2016 11:26 AM
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well they are different. sanjis eyebrows curl inside and the ones of his Brother(?) outside. of course its not sanji wtf


Thanks I missed that detail because when I factchecked that I compared pre timeskip Sanji pictures and on that side it curls outisde.
I wasn´t sure if both eyebrows curl, because we always get to see only one
May 2, 2016 11:44 AM

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Brother or other family member? :D Either way i like that he also has a curly brow. Curly brow family! :D

Now i need the next chapter.
May 2, 2016 11:56 AM

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Oh Luffy, poisoning yourself. It's a good thing he built up that immunity to poison. Damn, Sanji was NOT having any of Vito's shit, mouthing off to him like that. And Lola made an appearance, I guess she really is Big Mom's daughter (but no confirmation yet I think). Looks like Luffy and the others are in deep shit with the Germa 66 ship showing up at the end, I wonder if we'll get to see Sanji's brother(?) in action. I don't think we will so soon tbh. Lol I guess those curly eyebrows run in the family, it would be funny if his mom had them too.
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I'm excited to see more about Sanji's family. That guy was either his father or brother. I think Lola acted like she didn't know Sanji as some plan they have schemed.
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May 2, 2016 12:08 PM

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So that's Sanji's brother...? OMFG OMFG... I AM SO... well kinda disappointed he's just popping up like that... man wtf...
May 2, 2016 12:12 PM

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Why do I have the feeling Oda will pull a twist where Sanji's clone (that's what I'll call him for now) will marry the girl and Sanji will get trolled again.
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Why do I have the feeling Oda will pull a twist where Sanji's clone (that's what I'll call him for now) will marry the girl and Sanji will get trolled again.

Good idea, but it´s already established that he is not marrying her.
Alot of people love the idea of Sanji finally getting some pussy alongside a female crew member, although none of that fits even remotely Oda´s writing.
Frankly it´s just to immature for that. Shipping fans may get their wish fullfilment within the epilogue but that´s not gonna happen within the next 8 years.

Your way of writing would solve the story in a dignified way.
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metsujin said:
Why do I have the feeling Oda will pull a twist where Sanji's clone (that's what I'll call him for now) will marry the girl and Sanji will get trolled again.

Good idea, but it´s already established that he is not marrying her.
Alot of people love the idea of Sanji finally getting some pussy alongside a female crew member, although none of that fits even remotely Oda´s writing.
Frankly it´s just to immature for that. Shipping fans may get their wish fullfilment within the epilogue but that´s not gonna happen within the next 8 years.

Your way of writing would solve the story in a dignified way.


To be honest I knew he'd mess up with Sanji somehow... I feel sorry for him, but then again romance is not One Piece's thing (I like romance, even in some shonens, especially if done well). The way I see it, this is more like a 'excuse' to use, I thought about it (sorta like a theory I guess), Charlotte would fall in love with Sanji's clone... and from there you get the picture, Oda could also play the love triangle thing (with a lot of comedy of course since its One Piece). Off-topic, but I am 99% sure that Carrot could be the next strawhat, but who knows.
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Damn is that Sanji's brother.
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To be honest I knew he'd mess up with Sanji somehow... I feel sorry for him, but then again romance is not One Piece's thing (I like romance, even in some shonens, especially if done well). The way I see it, this is more like a 'excuse' to use, I thought about it (sorta like a theory I guess), Charlotte would fall in love with Sanji's clone... and from there you get the picture, Oda could also play the love triangle thing (with a lot of comedy of course since its One Piece). Off-topic, but I am 99% sure that Carrot could be the next strawhat, but who knows.


Regarding, Carrot, that´s confirmed by now, Although I´ve gotta disagree on the fact that One Piece´s cast is "diverse as hell". She perfectly fits into the crew characterwise and he usually sets those developments up. The one wildcard that joined out of nowhere was Nico Robin, but she was the single exception to that.

Back on topic.
Reasons why Sanji cannot Marry Purin if hot or not, since it would defy Oda´s way of writing.

1. Sanji being commited would remove his whole routine with obsessing over women. Even if she wasn´t in his vicinity, I´d go completely against the moral codex he´s established with. Hitting women is a no go but adultery is ok? That would make Sanji into a huge dick

2. The theme of One Piece is freedom, a woman especially one tied to a Yonkou would force him to settle down. Making her join the Strawhats and betray her mother to solve this problem, would contradict Oda´s statement, that the Strawhats won´t have romantic relatioships with one another.

3. Sanji had his affection reciprocated by a woman already (Viola). If he had any interest in marrying he could have asked her. Oda left it ambigious on purpose.
Although I do agree that Sanji as a character deserves a caring woman instead of being an eternal lecher it´s not Oda´s style to sacrifice a sthik that he can use for comedic purposes for the sake of character development.
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Really looking forward to finding out more of Germa 66, liked that little comic strip story about them. I think that is his brother, can't wait to see what happens next.
Also Big Mom's ship and everything on it was giving me some Alice in Wonderland vibes.

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Great Chapter overall, and I assume that's Lola.

Judging from the door and their singing ship, I think Big Mom or someone in the crew has the devil fruit that makes objects 'alive'.
May 2, 2016 3:21 PM

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Sanji's brother looks a lot like Zoro , it's basically his face with the curly eyebrows
May 2, 2016 3:23 PM

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Great chapter! A member of Sanji's family, the HYPE IS REAL
And I knew before Lola was one of Big Mom's daughters.
And no chapter next week:(!

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So the germa 66 story based on the vinsmoke family which are a part of of big mom's crew and a unit is named germa 66?
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Hmmm someone who looks awfully similar to Lola. Seems like she has some sort of a relation to Big MOM.
Poor Luffy & his team. They are pretty much on the verge of death by the looks of it.
Luffy manages to catch a fish & the skin is poisonous. Well good thing he is immune to poison.
Looks like they have entered Big MOM territory & all that cotton candy snow falling from the sky. Chopper must be in heaven.
Germa 66 are already on to the Straw Hat crew. This guy with the Curly Brow. Sanji's Brother perhaps?
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Is that Lola why is she there? lol chopper almost get eaten is hilarious and yeah Luffy must pass out when something important happen alright
"One piece will be on break next week" so golden week isn't enough for you eh oda
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I'm sure everyone noticed this as well but when Sanji said "In any case, they really do look similar" is he referring to the photo he saw when Vito showed him the photo of the girl he's going to marry?
Is that true or not? If it is I'm going to laugh my ass off.
Or is he referring to something else? I don't know. O_O
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Loved this chapter! Just wondering about Luffy's group right now though. . . are they gonna be in serious trouble because of the Germa 66, or is this guy that we've just seen, who's clearly related to Sanji, gonna instantly fall in love with Nami and escort like a gentleman to Sanji???

Sanji has said before that he's been raised to never kick women and be a gentleman etc (referring back to his fight to Kalifa). I wonder if all the men in the VInsmoke family are the same???

The plot's getting exciting!!!!
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I'm sure everyone noticed this as well but when Sanji said "In any case, they really do look similar" is he referring to the photo he saw when Vito showed him the photo of the girl he's going to marry?
Is that true or not? If it is I'm going to laugh my ass off.
Or is he referring to something else? I don't know. O_O


I was thinking that maybe when Sanji said that, he was actually referring to Lola. I think it's fairly obvious that that women we saw looks a lot like Lola, and I'm sure Sanji wouldn't have forgotten her. However, since this person doesn't seem to have met him before, he's probably wondering why she looks like Lola. I think this might be the answer to the popular theory that Lola is Big Mam's daughter. This hopefully will favour well for the Strawhats because they saved Lola's crew in Thriller Bark. If Big Mam finds that out, hopefully they'll be forgiven (plus Sanji can just cook something really sweet and delicious to win her around ;P)
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it´s not Oda´s style to sacrifice a sthik that he can use for comedic purposes for the sake of character development.


Last point sums up what I was thinking too...
May 3, 2016 5:27 AM
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Inb4 it's actually Sanji big sister.
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Sanji's brother looks like a gangster,his expression is mad.Also his curly brows is the opposite from Sanji,so he might has a different personality from Sanji and can be really violent i think.Wish he is stronger than Sanji and will have his own fight next chapter.
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May 3, 2016 6:16 AM

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Wonder which Sanji's brother in the last panel. Is it Ichiji or Niji? Or probably Sanji's father? Whoever he is, he really looks like Zoro with curly eyebrow
May 3, 2016 7:44 AM

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Didn't really like the luffy poisoned thing, on such a time.. -_-

That must be Sanji's brother either the 1st brother or 2nd brother, I doubt Sanji's father would look that young. Such a grumpy face, it's even rivalling Zoro's grumpiness.. :3
Dat Germa 66 ship looks like a snail with a tower as it's shell... :3

Anyway good chapter, the setup is good, 4/5 :3
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Lol 27 5 out of 5 and 14 4 out of 5, ok there are so many fanboys
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Was that Lola? If so, it seems she doesn't remember Sanji.
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metsujin said:
Isterio said:

Good idea, but it´s already established that he is not marrying her.
Alot of people love the idea of Sanji finally getting some pussy alongside a female crew member, although none of that fits even remotely Oda´s writing.
Frankly it´s just to immature for that. Shipping fans may get their wish fullfilment within the epilogue but that´s not gonna happen within the next 8 years.

Your way of writing would solve the story in a dignified way.


Off-topic, but I am 99% sure that Carrot could be the next strawhat, but who knows.


I hope Carrot will become a part of SH crew. Luffy's dried out face is funny af.


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Isterio said:
metsujin said:


To be honest I knew he'd mess up with Sanji somehow... I feel sorry for him, but then again romance is not One Piece's thing (I like romance, even in some shonens, especially if done well). The way I see it, this is more like a 'excuse' to use, I thought about it (sorta like a theory I guess), Charlotte would fall in love with Sanji's clone... and from there you get the picture, Oda could also play the love triangle thing (with a lot of comedy of course since its One Piece). Off-topic, but I am 99% sure that Carrot could be the next strawhat, but who knows.


Regarding, Carrot, that´s confirmed by now, Although I´ve gotta disagree on the fact that One Piece´s cast is "diverse as hell". She perfectly fits into the crew characterwise and he usually sets those developments up. The one wildcard that joined out of nowhere was Nico Robin, but she was the single exception to that.

Back on topic.
Reasons why Sanji cannot Marry Purin if hot or not, since it would defy Oda´s way of writing.

1. Sanji being commited would remove his whole routine with obsessing over women. Even if she wasn´t in his vicinity, I´d go completely against the moral codex he´s established with. Hitting women is a no go but adultery is ok? That would make Sanji into a huge dick

2. The theme of One Piece is freedom, a woman especially one tied to a Yonkou would force him to settle down. Making her join the Strawhats and betray her mother to solve this problem, would contradict Oda´s statement, that the Strawhats won´t have romantic relatioships with one another.

3. Sanji had his affection reciprocated by a woman already (Viola). If he had any interest in marrying he could have asked her. Oda left it ambigious on purpose.
Although I do agree that Sanji as a character deserves a caring woman instead of being an eternal lecher it´s not Oda´s style to sacrifice a sthik that he can use for comedic purposes for the sake of character development.


What have marrying anything to do with character development?
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What have marrying anything to do with character development?


You really ask this?
Marriage means commitment, even if it´s not induced romanticly it has implications for all involved parties. Sanji can not marry and be the same guy. The act alone reveals something new about his character.
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The Luffy's hungry beat any sign of concern for himself that he may has. xD
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