Do you think female protagonist who support main protagonist more popular than female main protagonist ?
| Ryuko is popular, though? Birdy wasn't the protag, but the boy. Yona is from a Shoujo series and that rarely gets recognition. |
| 1. Do you think current female main protagonist get less popular than current female protagonist who support main protagonist ? No, there are just way more female support characters than real main characters. 2. Are people prefer female protagonist who have personality tsundere , kundere , yandere , dandere than female who trying overcome challange for example just like Ryuko , Alita , Birdy , Clare , Yona ? . No, in general people prefer unique personalities. |
| ehh... asian prefer their woman independent and strong... look at GITS, or claymore.. or older example like sazae-san... |
KumaApr 29, 2016 4:37 AM
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| female protagonist who support main protagonist more popular than female main protagonist which is not female protagonist but actual main protagonist that is protagonist and not antagonist from the deuteragonist of male antagonist who has female protagonist |
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Kuma said: ehh... asian prefer their woman independent and strong... ah.. this. (not only asian, but more in "general") well, usually, female characters who support main character are independent and quite capable on their own (in most setting, they're strong and able to fight or wield any weapon or power of their own) regardless of which trope they're related/belong to, I think it depends on each other preferences... (yes, there are people who prefer sweet, or meek female character than the strong one) |
Saintrider891 said: since sazae-san? i mean sazae-san is from 50"s...Kuma said: ehh... asian prefer their woman independent and strong... look at GITS, or claymore.. or older example like sazae-san... Since when if i remember asian more prefer female protagonist who support main protagonist . What i see female character current nowdays only who act so moe , have strong power but acting just like tsundere , kuudere , dandere . Hell if you compare to some voting female protagonist who support main protagonist just like Saber and Rin who played support Shirou , Rias who support Issei , and etc as long female protagonist who playing support mai protagonist more popular than female main protagonist. stop watching niche market male targetted stuff and start to watching series that has more mainstream appealing, or shoujo.... lets take example for "current" anime that have dominant female lead like flaying witch and sailor moon.. also i don't see anything wrong as femele lead has certain traits... shoujo using this alot and they are targetted for female... |
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Saintrider891 said: Do you think female protagonist who is support main protagonist get more popular than female main protagonist. For example when there topic about who is your favorite female protagonist some people say is saber , rin , mikasa , tohka , rias and etc ( as long she support protagonist ) meanwhile female main protagonist just like balsa , birdy , and the other who is main protagonist female get less popular . 1) The most popular girl on MAL is Gasai Yuuno, a yandere and the protagonist of Mirai Nikki. Male lead of Mirai Nikki is just a point-of-view character. Having an archetypical personality doesn't mean you can't be the main character. 2) Do note that many females who are clearly protagonists star in shoujo anime. Shoujo anime are generally unpopular among men for reasons that are hard to see and describe, but easy to feel. 3) Izumi Konata, the most popular protagonist of Cute Girls Doing Cute Things, is #35 overall, and #8 among girls. Not bad. 4) For many men, favorite female character is the character they like in a sexual way ("waifu"). "Supportive" is a very nice trait for a love interest. Personally, among my 6 favorites, there is 1 male protagonist (Shiroe the strategist of Log Horizon, I admire him), 1 female protagonist (Kajiwara Sora, I feel I'm a lot like her), 1 female lead who isn't the protagonist (Len from Kagetsu Tohya, the embodiment of everything moe), and 3 female side characters (1 of them I admire, and 2 I like as women). romagia said: female protagonist who support main protagonist more popular than female main protagonist which is not female protagonist but actual main protagonist that is protagonist and not antagonist from the deuteragonist of male antagonist who has female protagonist Is it a tongue-twister? |
flannan said: it is my honest thought and opinion on this topicromagia said: female protagonist who support main protagonist more popular than female main protagonist which is not female protagonist but actual main protagonist that is protagonist and not antagonist from the deuteragonist of male antagonist who has female protagonist Is it a tongue-twister? |
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| God be it, I've always asked myself questions similar to this. I think it's just because there are more male leads in anime, since anime is a medium that generally attracts boys/men more than it does girls (that's also why the shoujo demographic is a bare desert compared to shounen and seinen). By having a male lead, more boys may relate to the characters and the anime becomes more popular/the sales go up. And you ALWAYS have to have a female supporter, because that means there's a chance for romance, and everybody likes some romance in their stories, even if they're an action person. From here now, it's a chain. ' 1. You have a popular anime with a main male lead and a female supporter. 2. Popular anime gets more views. More people are aware of this badass male lead and great female supporter. 3. "THIS FEMALE SUPPORTER IS GREAT", the anime community says, and shows her off, so that everybody knows. 4. Everybody knows. More people get attracted to said anime. They watch it. Now they're a fan of this popular anime with a main male lead and female supporter. 5. "THIS FEMALE SUPPORTER IS GREAT," the anime community says, but louder, since there are more fans of her now. 6. Cycle generally repeats until said anime dies out. Now, take that and compare it to a female lead character. Maybe a female lead isn't relatable, or maybe there are just some people who dislike female leads, despite some of them being really cool. An anime with a female lead generally doesn't become popular unless 1) it's a romance anime OR 2) the anime can guarantee that they will bring something good to the table. The main female character can be very well-written, though her anime may never get popular since female leads tend to iffy on the anime community. Kill La Kill was a hit anime with a strong female lead. It was popular because it had a unique and interesting story as well as good art and nice OST. Yona of the Dawn has an interesting story as well, accompanied by a female lead and male supporters. It deserves all the recognition it can get, but it doesn't. Why? Who the fuck knows? But the anime isn't popular. So nobody knows Yona. tldr; more popular anime tend to have male leads whereas less popular anime tend to have female leads (for some reason that nobody knows) therefore female supporters in said popular anime WILL be more popular for the general reason that their anime is more well known |
| Do you think current female main protagonist get less popular than current female protagonist who support main protagonist ? Yes. Are people prefer female protagonist who have personality tsundere , kundere , yandere , dandere than female who trying overcome challange for example just like Ryuko , Alita , Birdy , Clare , Yona ? . Probably. As for me, I like their personality, not their "strength". This also apply to my fav male characters. I like their personality rather than their "power". |
EsperApr 29, 2016 6:07 AM
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Saintrider891 said: "Holy fuck, most shounen anime have male lead and most shoujo have female lead, where is the equality? shounen must dominized for female too"2. That what make irony right now there so many shoujo that is so good only get unpopular because there so many male demographic ( note : just because male demographic that doen't mean you can't use female protagonist ). are you fucking wut mate? also there is different between main lead, main character, and supporting character... |
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Saintrider891 said: flannan said: 1) The most popular girl on MAL is Gasai Yuuno, a yandere and the protagonist of Mirai Nikki. Male lead of Mirai Nikki is just a point-of-view character. Having an archetypical personality doesn't mean you can't be the main character. 2) Do note that many females who are clearly protagonists star in shoujo anime. Shoujo anime are generally unpopular among men for reasons that are hard to see and describe, but easy to feel. 3) Izumi Konata, the most popular protagonist of Cute Girls Doing Cute Things, is #35 overall, and #8 among girls. Not bad. 4) For many men, favorite female character is the character they like in a sexual way ("waifu"). "Supportive" is a very nice trait for a love interest. Personally, among my 6 favorites, there is 1 male protagonist (Shiroe the strategist of Log Horizon, I admire him), 1 female protagonist (Kajiwara Sora, I feel I'm a lot like her), 1 female lead who isn't the protagonist (Len from Kagetsu Tohya, the embodiment of everything moe), and 3 female side characters (1 of them I admire, and 2 I like as women ) 1. That pool you use just Mal but when you make threat about who is your favorite female protagonist female protagonist some people will say is "Bla bla " what make big result is female lead who support protagonist more popular than female main protagonist but i agree about archetypical personality can become main protagonist. 2. That what make irony right now there so many shoujo that is so good only get unpopular because there so many male demographic ( note : just because male demographic that doen't mean you can't use female protagonist ). 4. Huh maybe some male like waifu but i'm diffrent because i prefer female main protagonist who overcome challange for example just like Yona , Haruhi , Balsa , Rinka from tokyo esp ( manga version ) , Clare ( claymore ). 1) I just used the poll that is closest to me - it's here in the MAL's menu. http://myanimelist.net/character.php?_location=mal_h_m 2) A lot of shoujo anime (except, possibly, magical girl anime) are, for some reason, hard to watch as a male. In my experience, the ones that are watchable tend to feel "bland", the ones that are unwatchable are too emotionally turbulent for someone like me to handle. And MAL is said to be populated by ~30-40% females, which doesn't give them as much voice as males. 4) Well, among "supporting" characters you listed Saber and Toosaka Rin, who move the plot in their own right, are good in a fight and are generally cool. By the way, Saber is #6 girl and #27 overall, and Toosaka Rin is #92 overall (and I'm too lazy to count females separately this far). I have no idea why you dislike them, unless you're looking for a feminist role model. |
| tbh there aren't a whole lot of main Female leads in the first place (well at least in the case of action anime). The once that are may or may not be popular, just like any other character. Look at Ryuko Matoi, Tomoko Kuroki & Suzumiya Haruhi for instance. |
Saintrider891 said: Do you think female protagonist who is support main protagonist get more popular than female main protagonist. Dunno, popular where? For example when there topic about who is your favorite female protagonist some people say is saber , rin , mikasa , tohka , rias and etc ( as long she support protagonist ) meanwhile female main protagonist just like balsa , birdy , and the other who is main protagonist female get less popular . Is that actual reason people give for like Saber, Rin, Mikasa, Tohka or are just making that up? 1. Do you think current female main protagonist get less popular than current female protagonist who support main protagonist ? Not really. Thing is, whether they supporting the male protagonist or not is not really a factor that affects their popularity. At least, I haven't anyone mention it as a reason. 2. Are people prefer female protagonist who have personality tsundere , kundere , yandere , dandere than female who trying overcome challange for example just like Ryuko , Alita , Birdy , Clare , Yona ? . This is a total false dichotomy. Are you implying that a character who falls into one of those character archetypes can't overcome challenges? There's also more character archetypes than those. I mean for example when there some people favorite female protagonist in every year who win is always female protagonist who support true protagonist indeed female main protagonist herself. Are you talking about something like Saimoe League? Because, again, whether they support a male protagonist couldn't matter less for that contest. |
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| I think it's because of the shounen thing. A lot of people here mostly watch anime with male protagonists. Out of my favourites 6 are main females (protagonist or part of an all-female group cast), 3 are supporting females, and 1 is male (L). |
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| >anime that have female leads aren't as popular in the anime community >so people don't talk about those anime as much because they aren't as popular and not many people have seen them Is this such a hard concept to understand? |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| Yes, because anime with male proragonist more popular, it's similiar to my thread before http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1496936 |
Saintrider891 said: RainyRai said: >anime that have female leads aren't as popular in the anime community >so people don't talk about those anime as much because they aren't as popular and not many people have seen them Is this such a hard concept to understand? Who knows beside that female lead you talking about must be female protagonist who support main protagonist is more popular than female main protagonist. Yeah, because anime is a niche medium and the West is a niche fanbase that leans to more male fans then more female fans so the popular anime in the West tends to have female support and male leads, while in Japan females just read shoujo and josei manga instead of watching those anime, so those anime are rarely made because they won't make a profit. Meanwhile there is a chance that male demographic appealing anime will. The shows that make a profit that are more popular among females are typically more popular among the fujoshi fanbase for similar reasons of appealing to them. These anime don't have to have female leads to appeal to them. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
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Saintrider891 said: Read that post what ixaa say is true. Is it really? Or do I have to take your word for it? |
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| There are quite a few users here that won't even watch an anime if the main protagonist is a female, so I guess a female who plays the supporting role to a male protagonist would probably be more popular, sadly. And by supporting role, I didn't take that to mean that these female characters are actually directly supporting them in battle, a relationship, or otherwise. Was I supposed to? |
| If she doesnt support the main protagonist them she shoudnt be the main girl in the first place. FSN and Toaru dont really have a main girl, index appear as little as any other side character anyway |
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Saintrider891 said: What would be the meaning in having a male protagonist and a girl protagonist if the girl and the male will not support each other in any type of problem?Somuchgamer said: If she doesnt support the main protagonist them she shoudnt be the main girl in the first place. Then what role are you talking about if female protagonist who is support main protagonist ? Are you going to say she is not one of protagonist but basically support ( for example just like Lucy , Mikasa , rias ). If i remember there a rules you can have more than one protagonis but the shows is still focus main protagonist or true protagonist than one other protagonist. |
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Saintrider891 said: riane-kun said: ah.. this. (not only asian, but more in "general") well, usually, female characters who support main character are independent and quite capable on their own (in most setting, they're strong and able to fight or wield any weapon or power of their own) regardless of which trope they're related/belong to, I think it depends on each other preferences... (yes, there are people who prefer sweet, or meek female character than the strong one) Are you going to say in general people prefer female main protagonist who can handle herself and strong power than female main protagonist who trying to overcome obstacle front of her in term physical and mental ? haha just read what ixaa said, and I think that's a good one (and make sense) just replying yours, though... Nope, I can't exactly say that "in general", since... I think that those two kind of female characters are both likeable (again, it depends on people preferences). hmm for example, a female character who try her best to overcome obstacle might become someone's favorite, but for someone else, she can become an annoying character because of her persistence. apparently, strength comes in different shapes, no? (oh btw, that "in general" was meant to be "not only for asian", sorry...) |
Saintrider891 said: Fine so you want my opinion . If you count about female protagonist result past year female who support protagonist always getting voting than female main protagonist. Saber , Rin , Mikasa , Tohka is female protagonist but they is still playing support role since the star show is Shirou , Eren , Shido. As for you say archetypes can't overcome challange is sorry . so i agree with you archetypes character can overcome challange. What votes and results are you talking about exactly? Just to be sure. I was also objecting to your point about female protagonists "playing support" being a reason for their popularity, though I suppose it can be for shippers; but even then, often the female protagonists are more popular than than the male protagonists. For example, Saber is the poster girl for Type Moon, and has a bunch of clones. Not to mention that none of those characters just stay back and let the guy take all the glory. It's certainly the case for Saber, Rin and Mikasa. There's more to these characters than just "playing support", which factors into their popularity. |
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| That just depends on the show... a lot of love triangle/harem anime are like this, it bugs the crap out of me when they make the supporting female so likable, and then at the end she ends up losing, which kills me. Action anime on the other hand, I'm 100% fine with. Mainstream example: Erza from FT is more popular than Lucy is (at least, from what I've seen & heard, and from personal bias). |
| hanabi in naruto and lala in TLR Darkness imo |
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| You have to compare the popularity of these characters relative to the popularity of their franchise. No shit Shirayuki is less popular than the Fate girls, Fate is ridiculously huge. But Shirayuki is almost unanimously liked among people who watch her series, and certainly gets less hate than every Fate girl. And on Fate, if anything the MC supports the girls rather than vice-versa. He's the "housewife" character of the series, doing all the cooking, cleaning and housekeeping. In addition, he's weaker than all of them and plays a sporting role in most fights. Shirou is basically the perfect waifu, and yet is infinitely less popular than all the main girls. Why are people sexist against male waifus? D: |
| @Saintrider891 Aoko Aozaki didn't get her own anime yet. I'm sure a lot of people did not play her game, and her role in Tsukihime is minimal. But overall, I have Four answers for you: 1) You define a ridiculously narrow category of characters to make your point. If you see two people, a man and a woman, fight side by side, you always assume the man is the main character, and the woman supports him. You sexist. You even refuse to acknowledge that Gasai Yuno belongs in it, even though she moves the plot, fights the fights, romances the romance and does everything else while Yuuki can only stare in horror. 2) Majority of anime are "shounen". Shounen usually have male protagonists, because they're considered more relatable, and often they have female co-protagonists and supporting characters, because gender balance, fanservice and other reasons. As a result, female non-protagonist main characters and supporting characters are way, way more numerous. They can easily win through strength of numbers. 3) Do the characters you like really have a memorable personality? Are you sure their personality isn't the default? 4) Frankly, all of your examples that I've seen are good people. A lot of viewers and commenters here are either bad people or fans of bad people. I don't understand them, I like Emiya Shirou and Saber better than Gilgamesh. In fact, Gilgamesh is an dumb ancient relic, only good for getting his ass kicked. Saintrider891 said: Nah just because Saber and Rin is cool in good fight that doen't mean in personality is good . Is Saber's personality really all that different from Shirayuki? I don't think so. Saintrider891 said: Because Saber and Rin is wife archytype what make them popular. Yeah, you're the sexist. |
flannanApr 30, 2016 1:24 AM
Saintrider891 said: Saintrider891 said: Nah just because Saber and Rin is cool in good fight that doen't mean in personality is good . Is Saber's personality really all that different from Shirayuki? I don't think so. I don't know who shirayuki but i can't compare her to saber. Saintrider891 said: Because Saber and Rin is wife archytype what make them popular. Yeah, you're the sexist. say whatever you want but mayority will Praise Saber and Rin only just because they arc cute in their rute than how to overcome challange.[/quote] Saber/Rin are more popular in absolute terms, because their franchise is way more popular than Shirayuki's. However they are also more divisive, they have a lot more hate than Shirayuki too. You should see some of the shit people say about poor Saber, and don't even get me started on Sakura. Would you prefer Shirayuki, Balsa, ect to be more divisive? That is, have both more fans and more haters? More people love them, however more people will also insult them mercilessly. Because I have a feeling you would focus on the haters, then make a thread saying "why do people hate female leads". Right now I could do the reverse. I could make a thread asking "why do people hate female supporting characters more than female leads", because they unquestionably have more haters. It's not the largest sample size, but lets just look through the mentioned examples: Saber - 24:1 love/hate ratio Tohsaka - 20:1 love/hate ratio Sakura - Less than 3:1 love/hate ratio, poor Sakura D: Shirayuki - 66:1 love/hate ratio, Balsa - 213:1 love/hate ratio. She has 213 fans for every one person that dislikes her, and a few of them may have ever been trolls, like how people leave a troll dislike on unanimously loved videos. The Fate girls have more fans in absolute terms because their franchise is far more popular, but in relative terms Shirayuki and especially Balsa are far more popular. Also you seem extremely dismissive of Saber and Rin as characters, and are clearly misrepresenting why people like them. |
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