Puella Magi Madoka Magica
| TBH who cares, he it's a dick anyways. |
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| Ofcourse not, he's always happy... |
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Praland said: he is not dick. he just not shows the terms and condition complitely. he does nothing wrong thou.TBH who cares, he it's a dick anyways. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
 This line caught my attention after finishing the show. Fun. Either he's lying or he's capable of experiencing enjoyment. I don't really know why people say Kyubey doesn't lie. We only really have his word to go on and judging from the difference between his words in ep. 9 and his actions in ep. 10, I'm willing to call him full of balogna. |
| Was 'he' a 'he' anyway? Got curious just now |
Kuma said: Praland said: he is not dick. he just not shows the terms and condition complitely. he does nothing wrong thou.TBH who cares, he it's a dick anyways. I agree, but I still call Kyubey a dick. *chant* Kyubey's a dick, Kyubey's a dick! OT: In all seriousness, I think initially he did not have the ability to comprehend human emotions, but I feel towards the end he starting to understand them more. Still a dick though... Man_Lanz said: Was 'he' a 'he' anyway? Got curious just now I read that he/she/it/me is meant to be genderless. |
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Man_Lanz said: He is the default pronoun. Was 'he' a 'he' anyway? Got curious just now many ppl arent on tumblr to know that ppl get offended when we say he instead of it or she |
KonaKoffee4 said: Man_Lanz said: I read that he/she/it/me is meant to be genderless.Was 'he' a 'he' anyway? Got curious just now It's an alien so I mean that kind of makes it clear |
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KonaKoffee4 said: how is he being a dick if he does nothing wrong?Kuma said: I agree, but I still call Kyubey a dick.he is not dick. he just not shows the terms and condition complitely. he does nothing wrong thou. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
pratigious_1993 said: he doesn't keep things. he answer it if he asked. he tell everything if he asked, but tell nothing if not asked. is it wrong being strightforward?Kuma said: Whether or not what he does's is wrong is up to the viewer.Its subjective.There are people that will say he lies by omission,take the US government as an example,it has lied and keep things from it's citizens,what with how it looks at your emails and personal private information and blah,blah,blah.Kyubee didn't give the "FULL" truth.He intentionally left out information.He doesn't show his terms and conditions completely either.he is not dick. he just not shows the terms and condition complitely. he does nothing wrong thou. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: KonaKoffee4 said: how is he being a dick if he does nothing wrong?I agree, but I still call Kyubey a dick. Well like someone stated, he intentionally left information out when it came to the terms and conditions. Regardless if Kyubey came from a race where they did not take into account emotions and feelings, that doesn't mean the viewer isn't allowed to judge him/her/it/thing/you/me/grandpa/cat. Also, when dealing with those who differ from your experiences and culture you must take into account that person's experience and culture, which he didn't. I understand his whole cat race didn't care about this, and I do understand the point, but I still call him a dick. Come on Kuma, chant with me. *chant* Kyubey's a dick, Kyubey's a dick! |
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pratigious_1993 said: there is none things called objectively wrong if we are talking about thinking creature action. action is not science.Kuma,what you say is subjective not objective,whether or not others consider what he did wrong is up the viewer. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Jerkhov said: KonaKoffee4 said: I read that he/she/it/me is meant to be genderless. It's an alien so I mean that kind of makes it clear Ah, so it's...every gender.... Kyubey can haz sex with itself and get itself pregnant. :O |
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KonaKoffee4 said: as i stated, he don't left information intentionaly. he just not asked about it complitely. and he don't find it necessary to do so. Kuma said: how is he being a dick if he does nothing wrong? Well like someone stated, he intentionally left information out when it came to the terms and conditions. Regardless if Kyubey came from a race where they did not take into account emotions and feelings, that doesn't mean the viewer isn't allowed to judge him/her/it/thing/you/me/grandpa/cat. Also, when dealing with those who differ from your experiences and culture you must take into account that person's experience and culture, which he didn't. I understand his whole cat race didn't care about this, and I do understand the point, but I still call him a dick. Come on Kuma, chant with me. *chant* Kyubey's a dick, Kyubey's a dick! well, he didn't hate the culture and ignore it, but he didn't understand it either. that's why i can't said he is being a dick. he is not intentionaly being a dick. he doesn't know why he is being a dick in human eyes. pratigious_1993 said: well, in the and, the alien still need those gems. of they are gone, so does the gems. and he doesn't particulary find eradicated those all monster is necessary to him. he still grant madoka wishes thou after all.Kyubee said he could grant any wish,so why didn't he persuade any of girls into making a wish that would save the universe,was doing all this energy gathering shit necessary? |
KumaMar 31, 2016 6:47 PM
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| He's an alien. He operates on a different morality system from humans. For all we know, the concept of "emotions" may have never existed in his species. Thus, it's kinda stupid to judge him on human standards as he's quite blatantly not close to human. |
| I think the term 'emotionless' does rather refer to him completely lacking empathy and interpersonal feelings, than not being able to feel ANYTHING, so he can still enjoy doing stuff and all. RLinksoul said: This line caught my attention after finishing the show. Fun. Either he's lying or he's capable of experiencing enjoyment. Aside from the question if he's able to experience enjoyment, i think especially this line was just serving the purpose to trick Madoka into the contract. You know, like "What a shame that our ways part here, we could have so much more fun together". |
KonaKoffee4 said: How can kyuubei be a dick if he's the reason we get so much stuff nowadays?Kuma said: how is he being a dick if he does nothing wrong? Well like someone stated, he intentionally left information out when it came to the terms and conditions. Regardless if Kyubey came from a race where they did not take into account emotions and feelings, that doesn't mean the viewer isn't allowed to judge him/her/it/thing/you/me/grandpa/cat. Also, when dealing with those who differ from your experiences and culture you must take into account that person's experience and culture, which he didn't. I understand his whole cat race didn't care about this, and I do understand the point, but I still call him a dick. Come on Kuma, chant with me. *chant* Kyubey's a dick, Kyubey's a dick!  Zat computer? Incubator Zat Cellphone? Incubator Za wheeeeeell? Incubator |
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Kuma said: KonaKoffee4 said: as i stated, he don't left information intentionaly. he just not asked about it complitely. and he don't find it necessary to do so. Well like someone stated, he intentionally left information out when it came to the terms and conditions. Regardless if Kyubey came from a race where they did not take into account emotions and feelings, that doesn't mean the viewer isn't allowed to judge him/her/it/thing/you/me/grandpa/cat. Also, when dealing with those who differ from your experiences and culture you must take into account that person's experience and culture, which he didn't. I understand his whole cat race didn't care about this, and I do understand the point, but I still call him a dick. Come on Kuma, chant with me. *chant* Kyubey's a dick, Kyubey's a dick! well, he didn't hate the culture and ignore it, but he didn't understand it either. that's why i can't said he is being a dick. he is not intentionaly being a dick. he doesn't know why he is being a dick in human eyes. Shitpost aside, I see your point and I do understand that was supposed to be the basis of his/her/its character. He wasn't morally good or morally bad because he did not have the ability to understand what humans perceive to be good or bad. Either way, Kyubey's a dick, kyubey's a dick! Sing it with me Kuma. KaoruMatsuoka said: He's an alien. He operates on a different morality system from humans. For all we know, the concept of "emotions" may have never existed in his species. Thus, it's kinda stupid to judge him on human standards as he's quite blatantly not close to human. You won't join in on my chant? :( Mkim said: KonaKoffee4 said: How can kyuubei be a dick if he's the reason we get so much stuff nowadays?Well like someone stated, he intentionally left information out when it came to the terms and conditions. Regardless if Kyubey came from a race where they did not take into account emotions and feelings, that doesn't mean the viewer isn't allowed to judge him/her/it/thing/you/me/grandpa/cat. Also, when dealing with those who differ from your experiences and culture you must take into account that person's experience and culture, which he didn't. I understand his whole cat race didn't care about this, and I do understand the point, but I still call him a dick. Come on Kuma, chant with me. *chant* Kyubey's a dick, Kyubey's a dick! Zat computer? Incubator Zat Cellphone? Incubator Za wheeeeeell? Incubator That fucking incubator! He's gawd! I woship thy dickish Kyubey. |
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pratigious_1993 said: i just want to stated there is no objectively wrong action. so yes, wrong in our eyes dosnt mean wrong in anyone eyes. action can't be objective. the reason can. that's why i am the one that don't understand why you brining objectivity in first place. kyubey have totaly different morallyty with us. should we judge him by our morality?Kuma said: No,there's this things called opinions and facts,you say he did nothing wrong,others would disagree with you and say he did do something wrong.it is subjective,it is an opinion,im not saying its wrong or right,its just your opinion and everyone else opinion. where did science come from?there is none things called objectively wrong if we are talking about thinking creature action. action is not science. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Maybe Kyubee is just lying to everyone and really does have emotions on the inside. |
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| Koemushi > kyubee OT: it's possible that he's hardened his heart because he knowingly sends girls to essentially kill their friends, if i remember right he works something similar to an energy company, so he probably sees humans like their cattle. |
| He is actually very filled with emotions but he's wearing a cat mask so you can't tell. QB is actually a dog that can throw very good pitches. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
RainyRai said: He is actually very filled with emotions but he's wearing a cat mask so you can't tell. QB is actually a dog that can throw very good pitches. I support this theory, especially stating he is actually a dog. 10/10 theory. |
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pratigious_1993 said: ehh... kyubey it self doesn't have any plans. he just lure girl to being magical girl. that's all.. he doesn't care what they want or what they plan. that's why he surprised with madoka hope for being magical girl. becuase it mean she become different being and complitely deleting the reason why magiocal girl exist in first place. yet he still accept it because it his purpose. he doesn't care about plan, reason or emotion. he just do what it tasked to him.Kuma said: Kyubee knew they wouldn't ask about it if he didn't mention it,thats why he left it out,it would interfere with his plans anyway.So that wasn't a complete contract to begin with.You also said he doesn't leave out information completely and then say kyubee finds it unnecessary,he says that because if he tell them the "FULL" truth then that would ruin his plans of netting a magical girl.So,the contract is incomplete,he omits shit to make sure they become magical girls.as i stated, he don't left information intentionaly. he just not asked about it complitely. and he don't find it necessary to do so. well, he didn't hate the culture and ignore it, but he didn't understand it either. that's why i can't said he is being a dick. he is not intentionaly being a dick. he doesn't know why he is being a dick in human eyes. well, in the and, the alien still need those gems. of they are gone, so does the gems. and he doesn't particulary find eradicated those all monster is necessary to him. he still grant madoka wishes thou after all. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
scruf4ls said: Koemushi > kyubee OT: it's possible that he's hardened his heart because he knowingly sends girls to essentially kill their friends, if i remember right he works something similar to an energy company, so he probably sees humans like their cattle. hoshimaru > koemushi > kyuubey at least narutaru contractor is much more fucked up than bokurano and madoka magica. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
pratigious_1993 said: i don't said he don't have any emotion. he just have different meaning of emotion and for him, emotion shouldn't affect his action in anyways, which is contradict if he care about his plan for grant madoka wishes.Kuma said: No,kyubee cares about his plan,and he cares about emotion as well,he even says he cares about his species,he says he likes them.Kyubee cares enough about emotion to even say he doesn't consider his actions evil.ehh... kyubey it self doesn't have any plans. he just lure girl to being magical girl. that's all.. he doesn't care what they want or what they plan. that's why he surprised with madoka hope for being magical girl. becuase it mean she become different being and complitely deleting the reason why magiocal girl exist in first place. yet he still accept it because it his purpose. he doesn't care about plan, reason or emotion. he just do what it tasked to him. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Here's some info on kyubey the dick asshole dog cat alien, but I also know that Urobuchi has an interview floating around somewhere in which he talks more about the individual characters of madoka magica. They also discuss the need for the magical girls and their emotional energy since kyubey's dog race is not able to produce emotions of any kind. However, as stated down in the Methods part of the wiki page, "In episode 11 Kyubey reveals to Madoka that while this statement is true on the majority of their race, there have been extreme rare cases of those capable of expressing emotions, but because this is a very rare phenomenon they are considered to be mentally ill". EDIT: I forgot to post the wiki page, but it's easy to find. http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Kyuubey |
KonaKoffeeMar 31, 2016 7:30 PM
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pratigious_1993 said: scruf4ls said: If kyubee can grant wishes for little girls,why would he need a energy company?I think it was stated in the anime that his species destroys whole worlds .And from that,I can say he has no respect for life at all.He essentially destroys and takes energy from other species.He doesn't try to make a compromise in any way whatsoever. Koemushi > kyubee OT: it's possible that he's hardened his heart because he knowingly sends girls to essentially kill their friends, if i remember right he works something similar to an energy company, so he probably sees humans like their cattle. i used it more as a metaphor, but he explains that his world collects grief or something like that. but i don't remember why they collect the spiritual energy. i just remember that he says that, if the witch form of madoka is destroyed they'll have enough spiritual energy to last them forever. they use wishes more as a recruitment tool than a legit promise. maybe there's some restrictions that his species can't use those wishes on themselves. the anime doesn't go in depth on the subject. but he doesn't kill the girls directly. more like hands them the gun. there were some movies after the first season, but i haven't seen them so idk if they explain anything about the reason his species does what they do. |
pratigious_1993 said: Kuma said: what is "our morality"? Each human has a different morality,you can't just throw a clear cut at it. Define,"actions can't be objective,the reason can"i just want to stated there is no objectively wrong action. so yes, wrong in our eyes dosnt mean wrong in anyone eyes. action can't be objective. the reason can. that's why i am the one that don't understand why you brining objectivity in first place. kyubey have totaly different morallyty with us. should we judge him by our morality? even our morality is different, there is still common morality. the problem is our common morality and kyubey common morality is totaly different to judge each other. action can't be objectively wrong or correct, but the reason why someone action that way can be objective. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
ilovewendy16 said: fuck kyubee in his fucking bitch ass. That basterd is going to burn in hell for the shit he put those cute girls through. Who gives a fuck if he had feeling or not, his feeling were shit. i don't give a goddamn. FUCK KYUBEE. (as you can see, i am still pissed at that furball made of satan's/hitler's pubes) Fuck yea! I don't care if he had any emotions or not, put holes in that motherfucking dog cat thing.  Homura initially had the right idea :D |
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pratigious_1993 said: you think why there is human rights and pacts about it? because there is common understateman on what a human morality diserve to get. thou the preception my different for every peoplem there is still "common understatement" about it. Kuma said: what do you mean by "common morality",you can't really say there's a common morality because humans differ too much,things like killing is wrong or killing is okay differs from person to person,things like lying,stealing or things like that differ from person to person.It's hard to create a common morality for humans,especially since there is over 7 billion us,coming from different cultures."action can't be objectively wrong or correct, but the reason why someone action that way can be objective"wait what? I don't understand your English,could you fix it a bit,maybe you're learning English and its not your first language.even our morality is different, there is still common morality. the problem is our common morality and kyubey common morality is totaly different to judge each other. action can't be objectively wrong or correct, but the reason why someone action that way can be objective. and yes, english is not my first language. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: scruf4ls said: Koemushi > kyubee hoshimaru > koemushi > kyuubey at least narutaru contractor is much more fucked up than bokurano and madoka magica. who was the contractor? i can't remember. and yeah kokopelli is pretty lame. and i don't think kyubee is that big of an asshole. |
pratigious_1993 said: Nah Kyubee is an asshole,he basically destory whole planets and in the process destroy other species,he has no respect for life,therefore,he is an asshole. koemushi does too, i think he has entire universes destroyed, plus he gets pleasure from toying with the emotions of the contractees from bokurano. i can't find the scene but a naval captain points a gun at him, so koemushi teleports his body separately from his arm. |
pratigious_1993 said: human right exist! WTF? thou yes, the preception is subjective. subjective doesn't mean "it all yours", it mean viewed personaly. just because it viewed perosnaly doesn't mean it's not exist. common understanding is when those subjective view apply to majority.Kuma said: you think why there is human rights and pacts about it? because there is common understateman on what a human morality diserve to get. thou the preception my different for every peoplem there is still "common understatement" about it. and yes, english is not my first language. Nah,human rights don't exist,its still subjective, Fundamental human rights don't exist because we are nothing but an intelligent animal, who managed to evolve to the point where we became self-conscious. Human rights exist but they are not fundamental, since we aren't born with them, they are given to us by other humans.There is no "commom understandment." now, kyubey don't understand what human see as "morallity correct" or should "emotionaly considered'. task is task, agreetment is agreetment. he don't want his own will prevent the task. if something happened later, they have no intervention about it and have no intention about it either. in other words, they are just tools (robots) in the end wo has no will and ambition. compare to bokurano contractor and narutaru contractor who enjoying their contractor does something bad and/or have their own will (which is mostly bad intention), kyubey look soo pussy. do you even watch both of shows? (bokurano and narutaru). in bokurano, they even have no resistant to kill their contactor if they doesn't convinient for them. |
KumaMar 31, 2016 8:33 PM
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