Fullmetal Alchemist
| I liked it because it allowed me to show to my brother the story I enjoyed since it started on paper (I read the scans before the first animation came out). It is not a masterpiece, it has a big flaw (it expects you to have watched the first animation before), it has a correct technical level for its length (I suppose) but is nothing wonderfully crafted either. Actually, I think people praise it for its story, what is sad because, obviously, the story does not come out from the animation but the manga. So, let's talk about it... The fact I admire the manga is based on two things: - its genre: the adventure shônen. Yes, it tells the classic tale of young boys who travel in order to realize their dream/personal goal, they face many obstacles, meet many new "friends" and stumble upon a larger intrigue than their own (but still linked to them). It is indeed a very common thing. The hero does not train to surpass himself. No, his physical strength is mostly acquired before you start to follow him, his knowledges too (except about what he wants). But you see him/them mature through their experiences. The obligatory pieces of humour for the genre are not too heavy and come along nicely with the pages. The action is present too but the author manages to keep it out of the focus without making it seem pointless. (and she even offers a tonne of action for the grand finale, I could have live with less ^^") - The story never goes out of rail. Everything seems natural and well planned, even the surprises. The attention never switch to something entirely different like what you could experience with manga who lost themselves. Finally, the side characters (except some mindless ennemies, who are born like that) are all attractive in their own way. None is purely present for the sake of comedy, action, or drama. They are less caricatural than usual. |
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Mkim said: Fox_123 said: I dunno mang, I never even started the first task, so I dunno whats the last task is (◑_◑) It's like... Too far away to consider itAnd then after watching Titanic, going to the action will be the last task, Am I wrong? And that's where Carnal Desires takes place. :) A camp fire. All I could think is me puking while getting in the location. :( :( Wot? Are you... Are you alergic to fire? to burning wood? to camps? Dude, I have motion sickness... I just found that out when we're in the airplane and after an hour or so I puked. Then drowsy feeling. I've never really went to camping nor considering to go. I also don't know the first step in dating since po*n and douji doesn't include those. :D |
Fox_123 said: ichii_1 said: Looking back on it, it's a great series but not something to get crazy over like this http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_TNX9vDX--/1370399486553203559.jpg Dude that's something quite curious. What anime is that, School Love Live! or whatever it is... yes http://myanimelist.net/anime/15051/Love_Live_School_Idol_Project :) |
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yazecchi said: The first 10-15 episodes are badly done because they wanted to rush that specific introduction content just so they could follow a different path than original FMA The anime is the best shonen ever made imo, the only thing that i HIGHLY disliked about it was the horrible comedy( mocking Ed's height multiple times per episode, etc.) All in all, i loved the anime Well that's probably the difference between Shouen + Comedy and Parody + Comedy. I'm also considering watching it again, yet part of me doesn't want to, I want to explore other animes once I finished my "Plan To Watch" animes. I put it there and yet I just sometimes watch anime there. The last time I watch anime with my brother was Kiss X Sis. And then my mother saw me watching it because my brother got bored so he just did his thing. |
ichii_1 said: Fox_123 said: Dude that's something quite curious. What anime is that, School Love Live! or whatever it is... yes http://myanimelist.net/anime/15051/Love_Live_School_Idol_Project :) No Yuri tag? There's something fishy about that anime... |
| I really love FMA. It touched my heart and so on ^_^ I know it differs from manga but I never care about it. Then I started to watch FMA:B I understood that sometimes manga can go wrong. Girls with tiny pandas? wtf. I stopped somewhere between 30 and 40 episodes, I really gave it a chance. And I hate it when people want to forget the brililant first season just because it's not like manga. But still I don't hate the second season itself. |
Mkim said: Fox_123 said: Oooh, I double feelya man, I'm also bad with em moving things, I just take those sleeping medicines when on long trips.Dude, I have motion sickness... I just found that out when we're in the airplane and after an hour or so I puked. Then drowsy feeling. I've never really went to camping nor considering to go. I also don't know the first step in dating since po*n and douji doesn't include those. :D "I also don't know the first step in dating since po*n and douji doesn't include those. :D" ≖◡≖ Let's just say, I also share these feelings you have there We didn't prepared any sleeping meds or something that provides me oxygen in my body not be drowsy, so I just sucked it up... Lol. The pattern in dating and the pattern in doujin is different, is there any pattern in dating? Well I'll just leave my love life to the God's that happens to be there, yet doesn't there; a pigment of our imagination. |
Evlora said: I really love FMA. It touched my heart and so on ^_^ I know it differs from manga but I never care about it. Then I started to watch FMA:B I understood that sometimes manga can go wrong. Girls with tiny pandas? wtf. I stopped somewhere between 30 and 40 episodes, I really gave it a chance. And I hate it when people want to forget the brililant first season just because it's not like manga. But still I don't hate the second season itself. The first anime I've seen in Television was Doraemon, I don't know the version but it was in every morning in Phi. I think it was 8:00 AM to 9:00 AM (commercials are included) But I the first anime that really kept me watching more is Naruto, and second is Detective Conan. |
Mkim said: Fox_123 said: heuehuheu, oh boy, this headed to a kind of a downer direction huh.We didn't prepared any sleeping meds or something that provides me oxygen in my body not be drowsy, so I just sucked it up... Lol. The pattern in dating and the pattern in doujin is different, is there any pattern in dating? Well I'll just leave my love life to the God's that happens to be there, yet doesn't there; a pigment of our imagination. I'm feeling the same thing, I've never consider this to be awkward yet this is awkward in some ways. |
Mkim said: Fox_123 said: Well, donmai donmai, it's not like it's uncommon considering the place we are (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧I'm feeling the same thing, I've never consider this to be awkward yet this is awkward in some ways. Lol. I think our previous convo needs to me moved to other part of MAL, specifically in the thread where it is appropriate. :D |
| Well, I love FMA:B, but if someone don't like it it's ok, until you don't you judge the tastes of other people of corse |
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Mkim said: Fox_123 said: hue, I believe there isn't a proper place for a chat if not on a club on throught comments or PMsLol. I think our previous convo needs to me moved to other part of MAL, specifically in the thread where it is appropriate. :D (But don't worry, I don't think any mod will check this further into this thread, just gotta make it continuously relevant to the topic it was designed) Lol... Well the mods will probably terminate this thread. And that's the end. |
| Haven't watched Brotherhood but FMA was above average and the movie was worse |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I'm neither. Just indifferent. It's painfully just above average, don't really get what people see in it. Just one of those shows for me. |
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tsudecimo said: I'm neither. Just indifferent. It's painfully just above average, don't really get what people see in it. Just one of those shows for me. I want to clarify, "[...]Just indifferent.", I don't get it, you're indifferent from the rest of the users who have watched FMA:B, and yet its just a average to you, and there's also a lot of users who sees FMA:B as average. Comic_Sans said: Haven't watched Brotherhood but FMA was above average and the movie was worse Someone also said the same thing... |
Fox_123 said: tsudecimo said: I'm neither. Just indifferent. It's painfully just above average, don't really get what people see in it. Just one of those shows for me. I want to clarify, "[...]Just indifferent.", I don't get it, you're indifferent from the rest of the users who have watched FMA:B, and yet its just a average to you, and there's also a lot of users who sees FMA:B as average. I meant as an answer to the title of the thread. I don't love it nor hate it, hence indifferent. |
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| FMA 2003 is a masterpiece. Brotherhood is a generic shounen wish fulfillment bastardization of it; its only saving grace being Olivier Armstrong. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
MiniSiets said: FMA 2003 is a masterpiece. Brotherhood is a generic shounen wish fulfillment bastardization of it; its only saving grace being Olivier Armstrong. I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? |
| I love it. Great story, impeccable world-building, characters full of depth, great animation, abstract themes, you name it. It deserves the praise it gets in my opinion. |
Fox_123 said: MiniSiets said: FMA 2003 is a masterpiece. Brotherhood is a generic shounen wish fulfillment bastardization of it; its only saving grace being Olivier Armstrong. I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? He's another one of those "it's shounen, so it sucks" folks. |
AltoRoark99 said: Fox_123 said: I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? He's another one of those "it's shounen, so it sucks" folks. Ohhhh a person who tends to justify Shounen as bad/overrated. I get it, I mean Naruto is at least the first anime I watched, and like it, not necessarily love it. But it was my stepping stone to be sucked into this "mess". Not all shounen are bad, but I do admit they sometimes generally are just half-assed anime that still says, "I'll save my friends even if my life is on the line." or something along those lines. Well that is also for me, who still following Naruto and Detective Conan. |
| I loved FMAB, but imho FMA has better art style |
| I liked it fam. Can't say that I loved it though, so I never gave FMA a chance. |
Larinel said: I loved FMAB, but imho FMA has better art style I'm just assuming but wouldn't they should have the same art style since they're just from the same source. In that note, I gotta admit FMA:B OP & ED are fantastic, I love it, the song is calm... |
Fox_123 said: MiniSiets said: FMA 2003 is a masterpiece. Brotherhood is a generic shounen wish fulfillment bastardization of it; its only saving grace being Olivier Armstrong. I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? Very simple answer: it followed the manga. The end. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
Fair enough, what do you like about FMA:B, I guessing you also liked the OP and ED.... |
katsaroulhs said: Fox_123 said: I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? Very simple answer: it followed the manga. The end. Ok... A very simple answer indeed. So is it same to assume, you're saying is, "just read the freaking manga and be done with it."? |
Fox_123 said: MiniSiets said: FMA 2003 is a masterpiece. Brotherhood is a generic shounen wish fulfillment bastardization of it; its only saving grace being Olivier Armstrong. I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? The original series doesn't have as high production values or as flashy action scenes. It's a question of style versus substance, and unsurprisingly the average casual viewer may gravitate toward the former rather than the latter. There is also a strange obsession with original source material that many people cling to. Brotherhood follows its source material more closely, but that doesn't make it inherently a superior product. Generally original authors tend to understand their source material better and thus write more consistently, but this isn't a guarantee, and FMA is really one of the exceptions to the rule. It always comes down to the actual content of the writing and dialogue itself, and the reality is FMA 2003 just has so much more depth and impactful drama in it. I think a lot of people were turned off by its less-than-idealistic ending, but anyone expecting a fairy tale ending for a series as dark as it was did not pay attention to its themes and the direction it was heading. FMA 2003 subverted genre expectations with characters having to make real sacrifices and experience real loss. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
Fox_123 said: Ok... A very simple answer indeed. So is it same to assume, you're saying is, "just read the freaking manga and be done with it."? No? Or maybe. Whatever one wants. I usually read the manga if I liked the anime, but I know that the manga continues/is different. Which I don't think is the case with FMA:B. Was FMA a good anime? It sure as hell was. But a lot of anime fans (myself included) tend to appreciate straight adaptation the most. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
AltoRoark99 said: Fox_123 said: I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? He's another one of those "it's shounen, so it sucks" folks. The original series is technically a shounen too, it just figured out how to not be generic and boring. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
MiniSiets said: Fox_123 said: I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? The original series doesn't have as high production values or as flashy action scenes. It's a question of style versus substance, and unsurprisingly the average casual viewer may gravitate toward the former rather than the latter. There is also a strange obsession with original source material that many people cling to. Brotherhood follows its source material more closely, but that doesn't make it inherently a superior product. Generally original authors tend to understand their source material better and thus write more consistently, but this isn't a guarantee, and FMA is really one of the exceptions to the rule. It always comes down to the actual content of the writing and dialogue itself, and the reality is FMA 2003 just has so much more depth and impactful drama in it. I think a lot of people were turned off by its less-than-idealistic ending, but anyone expecting a fairy tale ending for a series as dark as it was did not pay attention to its themes and the direction it was heading. FMA 2003 subverted genre expectations with characters having to make real sacrifices and experience real loss. The characters in Brotherhood experienced loss as well. And the themes were just as profound, if not more so. |
| I enjoyed the hell out of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood personally. 10/10 |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
Fox_123 said: MiniSiets said: FMA 2003 is a masterpiece. Brotherhood is a generic shounen wish fulfillment bastardization of it; its only saving grace being Olivier Armstrong. I don't get your allusion there. Nevertheless, if FMA 2003 is a masterpiece, why then, the majority liked FMA:B, is it because there's a specific scene that pushed a lot of people to like it, or the majority of user who watched FMA:B find that specific scene exiting or other words that is pleasurable to see? Technically more people liked FMA 2003 than FMA:B. In Japan, which make it the majority overall. |
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AltoRoark99 said: MiniSiets said: The original series doesn't have as high production values or as flashy action scenes. It's a question of style versus substance, and unsurprisingly the average casual viewer may gravitate toward the former rather than the latter. There is also a strange obsession with original source material that many people cling to. Brotherhood follows its source material more closely, but that doesn't make it inherently a superior product. Generally original authors tend to understand their source material better and thus write more consistently, but this isn't a guarantee, and FMA is really one of the exceptions to the rule. It always comes down to the actual content of the writing and dialogue itself, and the reality is FMA 2003 just has so much more depth and impactful drama in it. I think a lot of people were turned off by its less-than-idealistic ending, but anyone expecting a fairy tale ending for a series as dark as it was did not pay attention to its themes and the direction it was heading. FMA 2003 subverted genre expectations with characters having to make real sacrifices and experience real loss. The characters in Brotherhood experienced loss as well. And the themes were just as profound, if not more so. Yeah, they experienced loss when they shared the same plot points as FMA 2003; not so much when they started to deviate. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| Well its cool that you like what you like, no need to be swayed by MAL ratings ( i still regret ever picking up prison school, and i didn't really enjoy mushishi). Also planning my dads birthday. Its tomorrow. Happy val y'all |
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| I thought the original FMA had a subpar ending....but that could be false. |
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| I really like fullmetal alchemist broterhood, i respect if other dont like it. But this show is well written, i dont thik is a waste of time. Sorry for my english |
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| FMAB is the most versatile anime ever created. If you don't enjoy it at least a small amount, you are in the very small minority. |
MiniSiets said: AltoRoark99 said: The characters in Brotherhood experienced loss as well. And the themes were just as profound, if not more so. Yeah, they experienced loss when they shared the same plot points as FMA 2003; not so much when they started to deviate. What about when |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
TaichoMo said: Well its cool that you like what you like, no need to be swayed by MAL ratings ( i still regret ever picking up prison school, and i didn't really enjoy mushishi). Also planning my dads birthday. Its tomorrow. Happy val y'all Dude I'm still here waiting for Prison School's BD release. Wait.. It's been a long month since I've been waiting, there are times when I wanna just watch the censored version, but my quality pride stops me from trying... I'm quite fond of Mushishi, episodic yet meaningful EP's. There's also some EP's that I didn't like, but overall in my opinion it's very good. More studios should adapt animes that have themes rather than just cliche animes with so many fanservice, yet again, I'm being hypocrite if I said that since I just finished Sora no Otoshimono, and I actually thought its good. |
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