Major123 said: More developed cast? How?TR-8RCaim said: I'm gonna have to disagree and say Cold Steel I has a more developed cast and story then Sky. Also the ending in Cold Steel I is fucking fantastic and sets up for II very nicely.Yes. For the first two. Get to it fuckboi. In terms of writing, Trails in the Sky is miles ahead of Cold Steel. They all seem to be more like glorified anime archetypes. Please explain. How is Fie better than Joshua or Renne? How is the Persona-esque romance better than the romance in Trails in the Sky? How is playing as a generic Japanese school boy better than playing as a bracer? The combat is better, the voice acting, especially from Rean, is nice; but there's no way the writing or characters beat Trails in the Sky. |
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narutobirama said: Why are you replying? Play Trails in the Sky first. My whole post was refuting a comparison between Trails in the Sky and Cold Steel. At least play TitS before coming into this.I didn't play Trails in the Sky but I disagree that the characters in the Trails of the Cold Steel are glorified Anime archtypes or at the very least that they are not truly well developed. Also, I am very fond of playing as a student in the school and would probably like it more than playing as a bracer. In fact, I think the school and being the student among students and the entire setting is one of the most interesting aspects of the game. I also wouldn't say that romance in Trails of the Cold Steel is that similar to Persona. Persona develops characters mostly through interactions while Trails of the Cold Steel characters develop through story and the interactions are always based on the situation the character is in. Persona characters are developed by story and interaction too. They're the same. |
PeenusWeenusCaimFeb 16, 2016 7:12 AM
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TR-8RCaim said: Each classmate is from a different family of differing classes, giving each character a different perspective on what happens with the world and how they feel about certain issues. I really like that aspect about the writing and Sky didn't really have that. Also isn't Joshua an anime archetype as well? One more thing is that them being in military schoo and going on field studies makes a hell of a lot more sense then, "Oh your 16 now, here you can now become a bracer and travel the world with a fairly good chance of death coming your way".Major123 said: More developed cast? How?I'm gonna have to disagree and say Cold Steel I has a more developed cast and story then Sky. Also the ending in Cold Steel I is fucking fantastic and sets up for II very nicely. They all seem to be more like glorified anime archetypes. Please explain. How is Fie better than Joshua or Renne? How is the Persona-esque romance better than the romance in Trails in the Sky? How is playing as a generic Japanese school boy better than playing as a bracer? The combat is better, the voice acting, especially from Rean, is nice; but there's no way the writing or characters beat Trails in the Sky. |
Major123Feb 17, 2016 7:34 PM
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insan3soldiern said: hoopla123 said: True but the strongest (literally two females who are at the top) and some of the most badass characters in the series are all female. Females in this series aren't just mages or weak romance interests to the MC. Well, even in Trails in the Sky I've noticed that there are a lot of women in a position of power. The mayor of Bose, the Queen, even that merchant girl Mirano is making waves. Scherazard is a pretty famous Bracer apparently, as well. Yes, but literally the two females I'm talking about are the strongest in fighting power as well. One is beyond human capabilities while the other is the only person who can match against her in a straight up one versus one. Not really a spoiler since they are revealed right away in the 3rd and Ao but the two characters are |
| did anyone think sora's ost was inferior to cold steel's? also cold steel really suffers from the school setting vs sky's travel the world for a better reason. all of a sudden cold steel reminds me of cold(kappa) geass |
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Wusteven said: did anyone think sora's ost was inferior to cold steel's? also cold steel really suffers from the school setting vs sky's travel the world for a better reason. all of a sudden cold steel reminds me of cold(kappa) geass pls. Sen wishes it had the amount of quality Sora had in its OST. (Zanmai version but holy shit this one is so sexy) Honestly though, Zero/Ao had the best soundtrack of the series. |
hoopla123 said: Wusteven said: did anyone think sora's ost was inferior to cold steel's? also cold steel really suffers from the school setting vs sky's travel the world for a better reason. all of a sudden cold steel reminds me of cold(kappa) geass pls. Sen wishes it had the amount of quality Sora had in its OST. (Zanmai version but holy shit this one is so sexy) Honestly though, Zero/Ao had the best soundtrack of the series. english script for those games need to come thru and it will be played side by side |
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Wusteven said: hoopla123 said: pls. Sen wishes it had the amount of quality Sora had in its OST. (Zanmai version but holy shit this one is so sexy) Honestly though, Zero/Ao had the best soundtrack of the series. english script for those games need to come thru and it will be played side by side Yeah good thing there is a fan translsation of Zero/Ao going on. Sadly none for the 3rd, which is probably the most crucial game to play out of the entire series to understand the whole underlying plot as well as Zero/Ao/Sen. Zero/Ao does have a great track tho |
| Hey Hoopla should I get the vita versions of Ao/Zero or the PSP version? Or is their a PC one I could get? This is once the patches get released. |
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Major123 said: Hey Hoopla should I get the vita versions of Ao/Zero or the PSP version? Or is their a PC one I could get? This is once the patches get released. The fan translation patch will release for the PC version since the Chinese version has both Zero and Ao on PC. So yeah, the PC one will be the one you will play. Don't know if the translators will give you a torrent link or force you to buy it to play (the games are like 10 bux each anyways, super cheap for the best JRPGs ever). |
hoopla123 said: So I need to buy the chinese version of the games?Major123 said: Hey Hoopla should I get the vita versions of Ao/Zero or the PSP version? Or is their a PC one I could get? This is once the patches get released. The fan translation patch will release for the PC version since the Chinese version has both Zero and Ao on PC. So yeah, the PC one will be the one you will play. Don't know if the translators will give you a torrent link or force you to buy it to play (the games are like 10 bux each anyways, super cheap for the best JRPGs ever). |
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Major123 said: hoopla123 said: So I need to buy the chinese version of the games?The fan translation patch will release for the PC version since the Chinese version has both Zero and Ao on PC. So yeah, the PC one will be the one you will play. Don't know if the translators will give you a torrent link or force you to buy it to play (the games are like 10 bux each anyways, super cheap for the best JRPGs ever). Most likely unless the fan translators decide to put out a torrent link for you guys. ..................................................................... |
| Welp, I ended up ordering my copy of Sen no Kiseki I and II. Can't wait till it arrives (although I already got spoiled on one of the biggest mind fucking plot twists in Sen II) |
worldeditor11 said: Waiting for undub too.No jap dub in PC release. My inner weaboo is hella triggered yo. |
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Paulo27 said: worldeditor11 said: Waiting for undub too.No jap dub in PC release. My inner weaboo is hella triggered yo. That's what my friend and I are waiting for currently to this day... |
Dark_Enforcer said: Paulo27 said: Waiting for undub too. That's what my friend and I are waiting for currently to this day... there's a patch for it |
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Dark_Enforcer said: "to this day" lol, it came out yesterday.Paulo27 said: Waiting for undub too. That's what my friend and I are waiting for currently to this day... Someone on /vg/ already made it: Jap voices for CS: https://mega.nz/#!WkUyhDbb!B8dXNO2aBwNHibQ7tjTCyQLrX-bbBUV2jkZVUYxJ0Q4 Dummy files: https://mega.nz/#!AoVmhDoL!h7fYCD14LQD14Ema9zWVvqHZegYJX2PF9EYWbn3x-DM Dummy files are blank files to remove the added lines for the PC release, if you do not use the dummy files you'll get all the Japanese lines like you'd expect and then some extra lines (which I think aren't voiced in the Japanese release) in English. |
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worldeditor11 said: The dummy files really just cancel out those dubbed lines. Like I said, not sure if by using the dummy files the lines you're blocking will then be voiced in Japanese, if you decide to not use the dummy files you'll just have random lines be voiced in English (but by using the dummy files you might end up with no voice for those certain lines).Paulo27 said: "to this day" lol, it came out yesterday. Someone on /vg/ already made it: Jap voices for CS: https://mega.nz/#!WkUyhDbb!B8dXNO2aBwNHibQ7tjTCyQLrX-bbBUV2jkZVUYxJ0Q4 Dummy files: https://mega.nz/#!AoVmhDoL!h7fYCD14LQD14Ema9zWVvqHZegYJX2PF9EYWbn3x-DM Dummy files are blank files to remove the added lines for the PC release, if you do not use the dummy files you'll get all the Japanese lines like you'd expect and then some extra lines (which I think aren't voiced in the Japanese release) in English. Thank you for sharing. Will I miss anything story-wise by using the dummy files too? Either way, using the dummy files is the complete undubbed experience. EDIT: Yes, by using the dummy files you're removing those voiced line and they won't be voiced in Japanese either. Only way to get those lines is with the English dub so you either go dub only and a mix (if you care about listening to all the dialogue and don't mind some unvoiced lines with the complete Japanese version). |
Paulo27Aug 3, 2017 6:03 PM
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worldeditor11 said: Don't worry bruh, you can pick who you want. Alisa is ass, that's why Falcom gave the player other options.Oh lawd, spare me the tsundere please. Can I get other girls as my main heroine? Otherwise, this new Persona game is quite good. |
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worldeditor11 said: MAJOR SPOILERS: The girls in Class VII are meh to be honest. Sharon, Claire, Sara or even Towa are the better choices. Need my Onee-san tachi yo. And yeah, as much as I like the Class VII girls, the side characters like Sara and Claire are infinitely better lol. |
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| Did a few playthroughs of this game and it's pretty good !@#$ the boss that comes w/ this music tho. Even on NG+ |
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worldeditor11 said: I'll give you the first 3 but Towa is kind of meh as a romantic option. Solid character though. For me it was Fie, Laura, and Sara that I liked the most.Okay, I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, it was loaded with anime tropes, PS2 graphics, NPCs backstories, maids, butlers, walking, dialogue, fighting, walking, walking, dialogue, extremely steep boss difficulty and even more walking. On the other, yeah, I will admit, I like it enough to finish it albeit rushing to. Nevertheless, no words can describe how disappointed, furious, sad I was when the game "ended". I was like that's it? I spent 80 hours on this game and that's freaking it??? Game cliffhanger of the decade! MAJOR SPOILERS: Major123 said: Don't worry bruh, you can pick who you want. Alisa is ass, that's why Falcom gave the player other options. The girls in Class VII are meh to be honest. Sharon, Claire, Sara or even Towa are the better choices. Need my Onee-san tachi yo. |
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 Skittles said: worldeditor11 said: MAJOR SPOILERS: The girls in Class VII are meh to be honest. Sharon, Claire, Sara or even Towa are the better choices. Need my Onee-san tachi yo. And yeah, as much as I like the Class VII girls, the side characters like Sara and Claire are infinitely better lol. Thanks for the heads up. Fingers crossed the second arc come by the end of this year.... Yeah, hate the one hit KO thing and the extremely steep difficulty between enemy mob and bosses. But sucking one of your char into the boss itself takes the top cake. Major123 said: For me it was Fie, Laura, and Sara that I liked the most. My first dance partner choice was Laura. Something about Laura being that all uptight with everything doesn't sit well with me. Therefore I reload my save to go with Fie. No regrets. Still prefer those dem Onee-san a whole lot more. Not sure why Elliot was given as one of the choices... |
HaanFrost said: Find where Shining Poms spawn (use the wiki or something), build up your CP while you don't find them, when you find them just use S-crafts to kill them. Overlevel a ton.I have finished tits 1st chapter . Very good game Playing tits 2nd chapter . God dammit , it's so damn tough . I have progressed to 3rd chapter of 2nd game but it took me 3 months to do so x_x got stuck on my way to royal villa . Have to extreminate the monster on the road to progress but they kill me with ease . I am lvl 53 right now . @hoopla123 help SOS T_T 😭 |
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| When you mix both dubs: https://clips.twitch.tv/SillyObliqueTubersDBstyle |
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| There's a program for this game to download and play it for free. |
| I just finished Trails of Cold Steel today. It's really similar to Trails in the Sky first chapter: Run around to do random shit, conveniently be where the bad guys are, collect Bracer Points for some reason (lul) to unlock items, a couple of foreshadowing here and there, explore the country and meet literally all the important people in said country all while showing us the tension between all the factions. Then last chapter is massive plot dump with revelations and a couple of random mecha out of nowehere xD. Last chapter screams "Buy 2nd game if you want to know what just happened and what happens next !" I found it weird that they decided to end the game right in the middle of combat |
| Finished it a day ago, easily the worst game in the series so far. It's concerning how they have learned nothing from making these games for years, it's literally a copypaste of the formula in Trails in the Sky: First Chapter, but worse in every way besides graphics and gameplay Follows the same structure everytime: boring quests that you couldn't really give a damn even if you tried with one "Kill X powerful monster" necessary to advance the main story, which is the only barely interesting in the first place, filled with villains that keep "holding back" for plot's sake and not killing the main characters (or just antagonists running away because they aren't struct down when they should), not to mention building up mysteries that are never answered. For the finishing touch in the nuts, make the ending a 1 hour infodump where all the good stuff happens and left the game end on a huge cliffhanger like the Sky series (let's be honest, they literally slapped the beginning of the second game as a sequel hook for you to buy it). The twist wasn't even good either, is just extremely contrived and feels more like they wanted to "shock" the audience more than actually being a resonable explanation. Add to all that the rest of extremely mediocre writed scenes (like the shonen speeches about friendship), generic highschool environment/atmosphere, cliche and uninteresting character archetypes ("I hate rich people hurr" "I'm the generic tsundere bimbo derp"), dumbed down "Social Links" and all the wasted potential that an Erebonian focused series could've been (military police/Intelligence division undertaking dangerous missions, similar to Valkyria Chronicles 3) and you get one huge waste of time you're better of reading spoilers off and jumping straight into the second game. I didn't particularly like a single character in Trails in the Sky besides Estelle, but damn, I would take any of them instead of these sorry excuses of a fanfiction any day. The only thing that I can say is good about this game is the music (the gameplay, even with all the QoL improvements and additions is still passable at best), but the rest is awful, plain and simple. |
GoldenSaltPillarAug 25, 2017 9:25 AM
| ^Man some people need to loosen up a bit, like saying you only liked Estelle in Sky means you didn't like Olivier. Now I wonder if your even a person and not just a trollbot. |
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Major123 said: ^Man some people need to loosen up a bit, like saying you only liked Estelle in Sky means you didn't like Olivier. Now I wonder if your even a person and not just a trollbot. Olivier was fine in the first and second game, but his antics and manerisms got old in the 3rd and Cold Steel. His greatest moment is when he stepped up as prince of Erebonia to talk to Chloe in SC, but after that, his character stopped being all that interesting. I mean, better than Joshua "nothing personnel" Bright or Renne (which people say are good characters for some reason), that's for sure, but still not anything incredible. And pardon me, but I like the games I invest time to be good and worth my time, I just can't close my eyes to the truth that this game could've been so much more than a mediocre combination of Persona 4 and Trails in the Sky: FC. Maybe the second game will deliver (since SC was an improvement over FC and 3rd was over SC, albeit not by much) but my current opinion of Cold Steel by this game alone is that is a complete disappointment and a colossal waste of time. |
GoldenSaltPillarAug 25, 2017 9:45 AM
SH4kun said: Quite true. I got bored with the dialogues and cliche plot. The villains were terrible and lacklustre in general. Only fully interested on Sara.Major123 said: ^Man some people need to loosen up a bit, like saying you only liked Estelle in Sky means you didn't like Olivier. Now I wonder if your even a person and not just a trollbot. Olivier was fine in the first and second game, but his antics and manerisms got old in the 3rd and Cold Steel. His greatest moment is when he stepped up as prince of Erebonia to talk to Chloe in SC, but after that, his character stopped being all that interesting. I mean, better than Joshua "nothing personnel" Bright or Renne (which people say are good characters for some reason), that's for sure, but still not anything incredible. And pardon me, but I like the games I invest time to be good and worth my time, I just can't close my eyes to the truth that this game could've been so much more than a mediocre combination of Persona 4 and Trails in the Sky: FC. Maybe the second game will deliver (since SC was an improvement over FC and 3rd was over SC, albeit not by much) but my current opinion of Cold Steel by this game alone is that is a complete disappointment and a colossal waste of time. |
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SH4kun said: I think you'll like the 2nd game more, less Persona inclusions. I'm surprised you still wanna play the 2nd game after that rant.Major123 said: ^Man some people need to loosen up a bit, like saying you only liked Estelle in Sky means you didn't like Olivier. Now I wonder if your even a person and not just a trollbot. Olivier was fine in the first and second game, but his antics and manerisms got old in the 3rd and Cold Steel. His greatest moment is when he stepped up as prince of Erebonia to talk to Chloe in SC, but after that, his character stopped being all that interesting. I mean, better than Joshua "nothing personnel" Bright or Renne (which people say are good characters for some reason), that's for sure, but still not anything incredible. And pardon me, but I like the games I invest time to be good and worth my time, I just can't close my eyes to the truth that this game could've been so much more than a mediocre combination of Persona 4 and Trails in the Sky: FC. Maybe the second game will deliver (since SC was an improvement over FC and 3rd was over SC, albeit not by much) but my current opinion of Cold Steel by this game alone is that is a complete disappointment and a colossal waste of time. |
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Major123 said: SH4kun said: I think you'll like the 2nd game more, less Persona inclusions. I'm surprised you still wanna play the 2nd game after that rant.Olivier was fine in the first and second game, but his antics and manerisms got old in the 3rd and Cold Steel. His greatest moment is when he stepped up as prince of Erebonia to talk to Chloe in SC, but after that, his character stopped being all that interesting. I mean, better than Joshua "nothing personnel" Bright or Renne (which people say are good characters for some reason), that's for sure, but still not anything incredible. And pardon me, but I like the games I invest time to be good and worth my time, I just can't close my eyes to the truth that this game could've been so much more than a mediocre combination of Persona 4 and Trails in the Sky: FC. Maybe the second game will deliver (since SC was an improvement over FC and 3rd was over SC, albeit not by much) but my current opinion of Cold Steel by this game alone is that is a complete disappointment and a colossal waste of time. Just because I didn't like a game doesn't mean I won't like the sequel and vice versa. I didn't like Witcher 1 that much but Witcher 3 is my favorite videogame. I found Saint Rows 1-2 to be very mediocre GTA clones but loved 3&4, etc. This means even less in a series in which the first game of it's series is pretty much buildup for the next ones since Falcom pacing is generally awful. |
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