| I can't point out any individual elements that mark a psychological anime from any other but how do you write this stuff? I've seen a lot of shows that are unintentionally psychological (and end up a pile of offensive trash) and if you try to think about it, they aren't much different than any other bad anime.. As for the ones that are meant to be psychological, I don't get it.. Why do stuff like NHK and watamote feel so different than any other romance, drama or slice of life anime? |
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| The idea of psychological is to put the MC into a situation that is emotionally taxing, and have the viewer experience this vicariously. How to do it... Same as anything, really. Just put in enough detail to make it more convincing and feel "real." |
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| Emphasis on the psychology of the characters rather than the plot and unstable emotional states. Watamote is frequently in the head of its protagonist and focuses on how her mind twists the situations she's in due to her insecurities. It's not something that's labeled as "psychological", though. What shows are unintentionally psychological? |
TonyThemeJan 24, 2016 5:16 AM
MortalMelancholy said: The idea of psychological is to put the MC into a situation that is emotionally taxing, and have the viewer experience this vicariously. How to do it... Same as anything, really. Just put in enough detail to make it more convincing and feel "real." Not really. It's more about the show focusing on the psychology of its characters and giving us insight into what happens in their head instead of just following them around and showing us what they do. You'll typically see a lot of inner monologues and sometimes there won't even be any secondary characters because all the show needs is the one MC and what's happening inside their head. There just happen to be a lot of psychological works that are set in some kind of extreme situation since those scenarios lend themselves to generating interesting inner conflicts, but there's also psychological shows in very mundane settings. |
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TonyTheme said: What shows are unintentionally psychological? This is actually subjective as different anime affect people in different ways but to me Baka to test and Bokusatsu Tenshi dokuro-chan made me feel shitty inside.. Pullman said: MortalMelancholy said: The idea of psychological is to put the MC into a situation that is emotionally taxing, and have the viewer experience this vicariously. How to do it... Same as anything, really. Just put in enough detail to make it more convincing and feel "real." Not really. It's more about the show focusing on the psychology of its characters and giving us insight into what happens in their head instead of just following them around and showing us what they do. You'll typically see a lot of inner monologues and sometimes there won't even be any secondary characters because all the show needs is the one MC and what's happening inside their head. There just happen to be a lot of psychological works that are set in some kind of extreme situation since those scenarios lend themselves to generating interesting inner conflicts, but there's also psychological shows in very mundane settings. There are a lot of shows that have extensive internal monologue (Steins;Gate, Shigatsu) but aren't really psychological while stuff like shinsekai yori gives absolutely no insight into the MCs head whatsoever and yet has that 'psychological' tag attached to it.. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
ShockedJan 24, 2016 10:48 AM
4blaze2it0 said: This is true, but I think something like a work's genre is separate from your subjective experience. A melodrama centering around a small family with a ongoing war in the background may be unintentionally hilarious, but it still isn't a comedy. It's like how The Room's director tried to retroactively portray the movie as a comedy after its panning. This is actually subjective as different anime affect people in different ways but to me Baka to test and Bokusatsu Tenshi dokuro-chan made me feel shitty inside.. 4blaze2it0 said: Do the extensive internal monologues touch on deep seated insecurities or fears that warp situations and influence the character's actions? Are these states of mind the narrative thrust? Or are they more about conveying thoughts that reflect the current situation they're in? There are a lot of shows that have extensive internal monologue (Steins;Gate, Shigatsu) but aren't really psychological while stuff like shinsekai yori gives absolutely no insight into the MCs head whatsoever and yet has that 'psychological' tag attached to it.. I think that tag for Shinsekai Yori is misplaced. |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: If the anime centers on the PSYCHOLOGY of his characters, then it's a PSYCHOLOGICAL anime...Seriously it was too hard to figure out? You can't act too smart when you can't get the definition right m8.. EvaLainGalaxy said: So the PSYCHOLOGICAL anime aren't PSYCHOLOGICAL because they center on the PSYCHOLOGY of his characters? Its easy to be a snarky dick but it's obviously much harder to actually read the 9 post long thread and comprehend what kind of a discussion we're actually having.. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
ShockedJan 24, 2016 10:49 AM
| Here are top psychological anime according to MAL rating. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/40 Never thought Death Note is a psychological anime. |
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Zapredon said: Here are top psychological anime according to MAL rating. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/40 Never thought Death Note is a psychological anime. There are a lot of anime in there that aren't psychological.. I don't see how Tokyo Ghoul is anyway. I guess it owes to the fact that the definition of psychological itself is pretty loose.. |
Zapredon said: the mal definition is..Here are top psychological anime according to MAL rating. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/40 Never thought Death Note is a psychological anime. Psychological - Often when two or more characters prey each others' minds, either by playing deceptive games with the other or by merely trying to demolish the other's mental state. http://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre |
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| Psychology is the study of human behavior and mental processes. Psychological anime usually go more indepth about the reasons why characters behave in a certain way. The anime usually goes into the thoughts and beliefs of the characters. |
4blaze2it0 said: Why do stuff like NHK and watamote feel so different than any other romance, drama or slice of life anime? It's because a big deal of them happens in the realm of the subjective perceptions of the main characters, and this aspect of the narration is what gets the focus. I can agree and all that the tag is misused in MAL, after all we are talking about the same site that doesn't consider Perfect Blue a thriller or invents a tag that makes absolutely no sense like "dementia", but precisely WataMote and Welcome to the NHK! are undeniable examples. Edit.- And the moment I write this, I see that WataMote is not tagged as psychological despite the whole series is built around delusions and fears of the main character. MAL pls |
jal90Jan 24, 2016 8:29 AM
4blaze2it0 said: Pullman said: Not really. It's more about the show focusing on the psychology of its characters and giving us insight into what happens in their head instead of just following them around and showing us what they do. You'll typically see a lot of inner monologues and sometimes there won't even be any secondary characters because all the show needs is the one MC and what's happening inside their head. There just happen to be a lot of psychological works that are set in some kind of extreme situation since those scenarios lend themselves to generating interesting inner conflicts, but there's also psychological shows in very mundane settings. There are a lot of shows that have extensive internal monologue (Steins;Gate, Shigatsu) but aren't really psychological while stuff like shinsekai yori gives absolutely no insight into the MCs head whatsoever and yet has that 'psychological' tag attached to it.. The question is whether you want to discuss the consistency of MAL tags or what the term psychological means in a narrative. |
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| Higurashi is a perfect example I can really think of for an extreme psychological anime. It puts the characters into an emotional state constantly, has some heavy dialogue and internal monologue of how the characters know something wrong is happening, there is extreme dissonance between external environment and internal perceptions. I feel like this is what makes a psychological anime. As stated above me though, psychological can be on the lesser side as well. There are things like Serial Experiment Lain and Higurashi and then there's things like psycho-pass that deal with societal issues on a psychological level. The genre really does vary from the anime that is being portrayed from slightly psychological to complete madness and chaos. |
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| Have you watched Eden of the East. That's considered Psychological By Many, and I think it does it right. |
| If an anime makes a conscious effort to get in-depth into the personality and thoughts of its characters, or if it tries to get into the heads of its viewers to make them think about how they act, think, and behave, it would at least be attempting to be psychological. It doesn't have to be a mind screw series either, it just has to ask a lot of "why." At least, that's how I'd go about it. |
PoeticJustice said: Psychology is the study of human behavior and mental processes. Psychological anime usually go more indepth about the reasons why characters behave in a certain way. The anime usually goes into the thoughts and beliefs of the characters. So Your Lie in April is psychological? Because Arima Kousei has some metal issues he tries to overcome relating to his dead mother. |
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You_Go_Now said: PoeticJustice said: Psychology is the study of human behavior and mental processes. Psychological anime usually go more indepth about the reasons why characters behave in a certain way. The anime usually goes into the thoughts and beliefs of the characters. So Your Lie in April is psychological? Because Arima Kousei has some metal issues he tries to overcome relating to his dead mother. Yeah it is psychological, but it is still a very bad show. |
| Kara no Kyoukai is the most psychological anime but doesn't even have a psychological genre. conclusion: genre tags are inaccurate in MAL. |
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| Having an inner conflict resulting from some past event doesn't make a show psychological. That term would be meaningless if that was the case. |
RLinksoul said: Cejara said: there is extreme dissonance between external environment and internal perceptions.. That's the nicest explanation of the term "mindscrew" I've ever heard. It gets even more screwy when the trope "Magic Realism" is put into a show, where a supernatural aspect is put into a show that's otherwise grounded in reality. It really makes one question what is real and what isn't. Not to mention shows that rely heavily on symbolism also tend to be categorized as psychological, as the use of said symbolism can sometimes be used to convey the character's mental state without having them explain it. That term you used magic realism is like the basis for Umineko (another psycholoigcal anime). Never heard of that term before, is it an anime or manga term or is it something you came up with it to define things? |
TonyTheme said: Having an inner conflict resulting from some past event doesn't make a show psychological. That term would be meaningless if that was the case. It has to be the focus of the show. Look at Evangelion, the reason why it is psychological is because it focuses on how past events effected the behavior of the characters. Psychological anime focus on how the trauma effects the characters involved. |
| I always think it's heavy on dialogues and inner dialogues, mental struggles or simply some mental wrecking stuff idk |
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| Add some real life stuff then It will be directly psychological. |
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plasma38 said: 4blaze2it0 said: This is actually subjective as different anime affect people in different ways but to me Baka to test and Bokusatsu Tenshi dokuro-chan made me feel shitty inside.. There are a lot of shows that have extensive internal monologue (Steins;Gate, Shigatsu) but aren't really psychological while stuff like shinsekai yori gives absolutely no insight into the MCs head whatsoever and yet has that 'psychological' tag attached to it.. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. Don't know why people would say that shin sekai yori is psychological. The characters were pretty unimportant, almost plot devices for the great story and world building. Shinsekai Yori does have psychological factors to it. It deals with societal issues and what humanity is as its main themes and issues such a group think. These two themes are a big part of psychology. Source: two degrees in psychology/minor in sociology. |
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4blaze2it0 said: Zapredon said: Here are top psychological anime according to MAL rating. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/40 Never thought Death Note is a psychological anime. There are a lot of anime in there that aren't psychological.. I don't see how Tokyo Ghoul is anyway. I guess it owes to the fact that the definition of psychological itself is pretty loose.. Tokyo Ghoul concentrates on moral dilemmas and identity crisis. |
TheGeniusBaka said: a psychological anime is psychological if it really affect your mind . this, very simple indeed gottalove30characters |
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| not really fans of this genre, but when the main theme of anime is exploring the personalities and though of character (not always MC) and how it goes along with series, than it is psychological. |
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Kuma said: not really fans of this genre, but when the main theme of anime is exploring the personalities and though of character (not always MC) and how it goes along with series, than it is psychological. Wouldn't that literally be every anime though? |
TitanAnteus said: not really. if the main theme of the series it slef is showing how the character as main trait. the stories is following around character react and though. it's showing how character react and why and how to deal with event. it's not always using monologue, or dialogue. it can be many ways. Kuma said: not really fans of this genre, but when the main theme of anime is exploring the personalities and though of character (not always MC) and how it goes along with series, than it is psychological. Wouldn't that literally be every anime though? maybe it's kinda confusing, but when it focus to character attitude, what they do and why they react that way, how is mental state and what probably they think and the story is presented around it, than it is psychological. IE: character psychological focus story. to differentiate it with most anime, they presented their story with character, not event. event there also presented with how character react with that event. how about to differentiate with another character focus story? simple, if we get moment showing the way why character react that way, not only what character do. |
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| Psychological is when the psychology - how the characters view the world, their reactions, what shapes their worldview/personality, how it changes is the focus. Surrealism and inner monologues look psychological, but aren't necessary. |
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noodleeater21 said: How it differs from slice-of-life, romance and drama anime? Much more interesting aim in the story and more intense. You just can't stop seeing the extreme distress and emotions that the characters are facing. Also tends to be deeper and darker. Distress and negative emotions are also present in cheap Slasher films. What's so psychological there? |
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| You should watch Monster. It's literally the best psychological anime. |
TheNamelessDemon said: You should watch Monster. It's literally the best psychological anime. That's bait for a certain genius baka. |
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RainyRai said: TheNamelessDemon said: You should watch Monster. It's literally the best psychological anime. That's bait for a certain genius baka. He certainly makes it known to everyone he hates Monster. Literally everyone on MAL knows he hates it. He says it more than Trump saying he wants to deport Muslims. |
| Overthinking? It really shows all the complicated train of thoughts, and not just one thought. And even though it can be seen in other genres. here you see it more. I didn't watch much so I'm most sure |
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EfiChan said: Overthinking? It really shows all the complicated train of thoughts, and not just one thought. And even though it can be seen in other genres. here you see it more. I didn't watch much so I'm most sure How do you show complicated trains of thought? |
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| The psychology needs to be super in the face and forced. There has to be constant shots of your characters looking angsty and depressed. Because that means your characters are deep and psychological. |
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