Vinland Saga
| I don't know if this is recent or not, but I noticed on a manga site I use that Vinland Saga is dropped by Kodansha Comics. So if this is true, does that mean there won't be any further omnibus volumes to buy in the U.S.? They currently have up to volume 7 available to buy. |
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| Kodansha said they'd drop it if the volume sevens sales were poor as the rest of the volumes. |
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ziggy_Z said: Kodansha said they'd drop it if the volume sevens sales were poor as the rest of the volumes. Well that sucks, I thought it was a successful manga in the U.S. Will another company pick it up? |
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| If it's true that's bad news because I was planning to read it at some point. I liked the theme and the drawing. |
| Amazon isn't showing a listing for volume 8, so it doesn't look to good. To be honest, I wasn't completely surprised. I was one of the (apparently many) people who dropped it - the storytelling just wasn't doing it for me, and the releases were fairly expensive. |
| Are you talking about physical copies? Or translations? (I plan to start reading soon) |
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ExTamplier said: Are you talking about physical copies? Or translations? (I plan to start reading soon) It's about the physical releases in English, not about the scanlations, they just continue. |
chomio said: Sucks for those who want to buy it.ExTamplier said: It's about the physical releases in English, not about the scanlations, they just continue.Are you talking about physical copies? Or translations? (I plan to start reading soon) |
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ExTamplier said: chomio said: Sucks for those who want to buy it.It's about the physical releases in English, not about the scanlations, they just continue. Indeed, I'm also an victim from it, because I'm also buying the manga. |
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| I thought that the 8th volume wouldn't come out for now since the translations have caught up. Or am I wrong? |
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| Really, this need to be animated soon. EMERGENCY |
HiatusXHiatus said: Really, this need to be animated soon. EMERGENCY Yeah I'm actually hoping for that as well. |
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| Even if they continue the english release, they'll release volume 8th and then stop for a while since there are only 17 volumes out in Japan, and the books in english are 2-in-1, the 8th book would be the last. |
LK09 said: Fengwu said: Amazon isn't showing a listing for volume 8, so it doesn't look to good. To be honest, I wasn't completely surprised. I was one of the (apparently many) people who dropped it - the storytelling just wasn't doing it for me, and the releases were fairly expensive. Yep, I think people were hyping this series too much, in order to hopefully keep it in print. Dropped it after 6 volumes. Shit was too fictional for me. The dude chucking that spear a mile across a valley did it for me. I don't know, guess I was expecting something more realistic and not so action-comic-like. I don't know about hyping it up too much. I honestly felt like the series was just poorly written. It had some good ideas and a practical basis, but things would happen seemingly out of nowhere and the character arcs weren't fully developed, leading to jarring shifts. I haven't read the Vinland Saga itself, but I feel like a 700 year old poem needs a bit more work to create a modern narrative than what Yukimura-sensei put it. It's a shame because this manga and the TV show Vikings (and a lot of similar books/tv shows/movies) have a lot of similar problems but I just really want something about vikings...! -clenches fist dramatically- |
Fengwu said: LK09 said: Yep, I think people were hyping this series too much, in order to hopefully keep it in print. Dropped it after 6 volumes. Shit was too fictional for me. The dude chucking that spear a mile across a valley did it for me. I don't know, guess I was expecting something more realistic and not so action-comic-like. I don't know about hyping it up too much. I honestly felt like the series was just poorly written. It had some good ideas and a practical basis, but things would happen seemingly out of nowhere and the character arcs weren't fully developed, leading to jarring shifts. I haven't read the Vinland Saga itself, but I feel like a 700 year old poem needs a bit more work to create a modern narrative than what Yukimura-sensei put it. It's a shame because this manga and the TV show Vikings (and a lot of similar books/tv shows/movies) have a lot of similar problems but I just really want something about vikings...! -clenches fist dramatically- You guys are putting too much emphasis on realism. The author even said that this work was inspired loosely by the ancient Saga, but its mostly fiction. It's suppose to be entertaining, and the sagas themselves talked about unrealistic things happening, with gods and all that jazz. The action sequences are not 100% realistic but you are forgetting this is a manga, and for that the action is more realistic than the majority of manga out there. The t.v. show vikings is just that a T.V. show depicting the saga of Ragnar. They are going to spice it up without a doubt. Sure they add mystical things like visions and seers and prophecy... but the reason why they show this on the history channel is to gain insight into viking life and culture, as well as some other important figures during those times so the show is actually about 50 to 60 percent accurate. Also remember that originally the Sagas were passed on by word of mouth, so they aren't as reliable as some would like to think. When things get passed on by word of mouth there are key things that are likely to change. I don't think Vinland Saga was overhyped at all, especially when I look at other manga that a lot of people are reading. I enjoyed the art style very much and i was happy that there was finally a viking themed manga out there. |
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Dzutqo said: Fengwu said: I don't know about hyping it up too much. I honestly felt like the series was just poorly written. It had some good ideas and a practical basis, but things would happen seemingly out of nowhere and the character arcs weren't fully developed, leading to jarring shifts. I haven't read the Vinland Saga itself, but I feel like a 700 year old poem needs a bit more work to create a modern narrative than what Yukimura-sensei put it. It's a shame because this manga and the TV show Vikings (and a lot of similar books/tv shows/movies) have a lot of similar problems but I just really want something about vikings...! -clenches fist dramatically- You guys are putting too much emphasis on realism. The author even said that this work was inspired loosely by the ancient Saga, but its mostly fiction. It's suppose to be entertaining, and the sagas themselves talked about unrealistic things happening, with gods and all that jazz. The action sequences are not 100% realistic but you are forgetting this is a manga, and for that the action is more realistic than the majority of manga out there. The t.v. show vikings is just that a T.V. show depicting the saga of Ragnar. They are going to spice it up without a doubt. Sure they add mystical things like visions and seers and prophecy... but the reason why they show this on the history channel is to gain insight into viking life and culture, as well as some other important figures during those times so the show is actually about 50 to 60 percent accurate. Also remember that originally the Sagas were passed on by word of mouth, so they aren't as reliable as some would like to think. When things get passed on by word of mouth there are key things that are likely to change. I don't think Vinland Saga was overhyped at all, especially when I look at other manga that a lot of people are reading. I enjoyed the art style very much and i was happy that there was finally a viking themed manga out there. The problem is, the series holds itself as being at least more realistic than the average manga, especially in its art and goals. And inspired or not I, as a historian and medievalist, am going to critique your work. I'm not saying the TV show should not have used seers - I'm saying it should know its history well enough to know that Ragnar Lodbrok was not the first Scandinavian to think England existed. And sagas, like all histories, are generally reflective of the time they were recorded, not necessarily just what they're telling. And as I said, my umbrage with both of these series is more that the poor storytelling and character development made the mistakes so much more obvious, and unforgivable. I want a Viking manga, but I'm not going to like something just because it's about Vikings if it doesn't work as a strong story. |
Fengwu said: Dzutqo said: You guys are putting too much emphasis on realism. The author even said that this work was inspired loosely by the ancient Saga, but its mostly fiction. It's suppose to be entertaining, and the sagas themselves talked about unrealistic things happening, with gods and all that jazz. The action sequences are not 100% realistic but you are forgetting this is a manga, and for that the action is more realistic than the majority of manga out there. The t.v. show vikings is just that a T.V. show depicting the saga of Ragnar. They are going to spice it up without a doubt. Sure they add mystical things like visions and seers and prophecy... but the reason why they show this on the history channel is to gain insight into viking life and culture, as well as some other important figures during those times so the show is actually about 50 to 60 percent accurate. Also remember that originally the Sagas were passed on by word of mouth, so they aren't as reliable as some would like to think. When things get passed on by word of mouth there are key things that are likely to change. I don't think Vinland Saga was overhyped at all, especially when I look at other manga that a lot of people are reading. I enjoyed the art style very much and i was happy that there was finally a viking themed manga out there. The problem is, the series holds itself as being at least more realistic than the average manga, especially in its art and goals. And inspired or not I, as a historian and medievalist, am going to critique your work. I'm not saying the TV show should not have used seers - I'm saying it should know its history well enough to know that Ragnar Lodbrok was not the first Scandinavian to think England existed. And sagas, like all histories, are generally reflective of the time they were recorded, not necessarily just what they're telling. And as I said, my umbrage with both of these series is more that the poor storytelling and character development made the mistakes so much more obvious, and unforgivable. I want a Viking manga, but I'm not going to like something just because it's about Vikings if it doesn't work as a strong story. It never made the claim that Ragner was the first Scandinavian to think England existed. Sure there were people before him. However, the story is of Ragner and that period during the Viking age. In fact it was typical that history wasn't properly recorded and maybe the vikings during that period didn't know everything about the vikings before them... well whatever the case that isn't important nor the point. I find both Vikings t.v. show, and Vinland saga to be entertaining, and they accomplish what they set out to do imho. I do appreciate the art style of Vinland saga. There is a lot more worse manga out there that receives credit where it is not do. The only part I didn't like was the farming part in vinland saga. I didn't care for that. It isn't perfect, but then again I don't consider anything perfect. It also doesn't bother me that they made Leif Erikson look like a modern day hipster. Anyways, I didn't see anywhere where the manga author claim its more realistic than other manga. While I myself believe it is a lot more realistic than a lot of manga's out there. If there will be something fully realistic about vikings it won't be in a T.V. show, and especially not a manga written by a Japanese dude. On the History channel they did have programs that talked about the viking age significantly and accurately, but that isn't really a t.v. show where people act. Its a bunch of historians talking about history. |
DzutqoApr 8, 2016 10:32 PM
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| I can see why it'd be dropped. Way too slow, for what it had to offer. |
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MortalMelancholy said: I can see why it'd be dropped. Way too slow, for what it had to offer. Well the NA license version, its still going to go on in Japan. But there is nothing definite about Kodansha dropping it for NA. |
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| And after all that: it looks like Kodansha's publishing the next volume Stateside this fall. http://kodanshacomics.tumblr.com/post/142501272561/emerald-city-comicon-announcement-2-vinland-saga I hope this manages to answer OP's question. |
| Hardcover releases are expensive and that's likely why they were thinking about cancelling it. If Attack on Titan, for example, had hardcover releases they would continue releasing it like that no problem due to the high sales. But Vinland Saga is much more niche and they need demand to maintain the cost. But good news that it's not cancelled, I was thinking about buying the releases soon. |
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Fengwu said: And after all that: it looks like Kodansha's publishing the next volume Stateside this fall. http://kodanshacomics.tumblr.com/post/142501272561/emerald-city-comicon-announcement-2-vinland-saga I hope this manages to answer OP's question. That is great :D, I'm happy they decided to continue it. |
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| The farm arc killed this series for a lot of people and the sales seem to show that. Honestly the farm arc isnt as bad as what people make it out to be but it is a 180 for the reader. |
Lust said: So is there any hope left for this manga? What do you mean? Hope for what? |
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darkbirt said: Take my condolences.ExTamplier said: Indeed, I'm also an victim from it, because I'm also buying the manga.Sucks for those who want to buy it. |
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Lust said: Fumito said: A new chapter came out late last month bro. They mean't that the English volumes got dropped, but recently it's has been announced for a comeback. English Vol. 8 will be out December 2016 Oh i see, that's awsome! It's a monthly release. Chapters actually do come out :) |
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