Monogatari Series: First Season
| I guess someone live in Japan or had the chance to saw it (or will do), so I want to know what do you thought about it. |
| Some japanese comments found on /a/ 550 見てきた Just saw it. 映像は良かったけど話の流れが分かりにくいというかブツ切れというか It looked gorgeous but the story was hard to follow, felt like it jumped all over the place 553 演技については信頼と実績の4人 Acting-wise you had the tried and trusted 4 people. BGMがスキャット（っていうのか？）多めでちょっとくどく感じたけど、まあ個人の感想です The BGM had lots of that scat...-ish... whatever-it-was. I found it somewhat repetitious but that's just me 最近のCGは凄いな CG nowadays is pretty amazing 実写演出は大人しめ、ないわけではないが The live-action bits were on the restrained side, but they were there 忍野はあれで影縫さん以下とか本当おかしい With the shit he did it's fucking nuts that Oshino isn't as strong as Kagenui 557 羽川はもはや隠れ巨乳ではない Can't really call Hanekawa the "hidden titty monster" any more. あの木、桜だったのかよ So it was a cherry tree. 朝一だったけど7割くらい埋まってた It was early morning but the theater was 70% full. 男女比8:2くらい、下は10代～上は50代らしき人も 8:2 male-female ratio, youngest was teens oldest I saw someone who looked in his/her 50s. 最頻はやっぱり20代かな Mostly twenty-somethings, as expected. 一人二人組三人組が5:3:2くらい Groups of one, two, and three were at 5:3:2. 当日組多め Quite a few that-day-arrivers . 歌物語買い過ぎ Utamonogatari got sold way too much. 559 朝イチで見てきたけど3部作は失敗だったな Watched it first thing in the morning but it looks like the trilogy will flop 566 観て来た、リピートはせんが円盤は買うな Just saw it. Not going again but I will buy the disc. キスショットの登場シーンとか軽くホラーしててちょっと恐かったわ、夏まで待つのが辛い Kiss-shot's entrance scene was left me a bit scared, it was pretty horror. Waiting 'til summer is gonna suck. 569 モノローグが無いのは正解だった They were right to leave out the monologuing. というか他のシリーズでもいらないよな Actually they aren't really needed in the rest of the series either. 573 >>550 (the guy who thought it jumped around a lot) 阿良々木くんのモノローグないから心情の変化が急に感じるな Without the monologues, Araragi's emotional changes do feel sudden, don't they? 580 >>569 化1話のモノローグとか鳥肌もんだったわ Araragi's monologuing in Bake ep 1 gives me goosebumps. 581 次までにイタリア語覚えなきゃな Guess I'll have to learn Italian before the next part. 582 63分とか短いなと思ってたけど濃すぎてお腹いっぱいだった 63 minutes is way short I thought, but it was so rich I was left feeling full. 587 熱血編の夏公開って11月くらいかな？ "Nekketsu-hen opens this summer." So some time around November, then? 592 モノローグの代わりにカットインで入れる文字が状況説明の補足として上手いこと機能してたね The text cut-ins did a good job at explaining and expanding things in lieu of the monologues. フランス語とかモールス信号もあったから初見には厳しいが Though, the French and Morse code is probably a bit harsh for a first watch. 593 原作は読んでないんだがあのモールス信号って原作にもあるの？ I haven't read the novel but did it have the Morse code in it? 590 なにが地上波放送できないって、羽川に欲情したアララギがエロ本買いに行くときのやる気まんまんのオットセイチンコが出たことだ If were talking things that can't be aired on TV, the seal penis from Yaruki Manman showed up when Araragi, excited by Hanekawa's panties, went to go buy porno. 595 >>590 あれ許可取ってんのかな？ I wonder if they got permission for that. パロディでは済まされないほどそのまんまだったけど It looked similar enough that you couldn't really get away with just calling it a parody. 625 映像がすごい、ってほぼ思わなかった。 I hardly thought "this looks amazing" かわいい、きれいな作画はあったけど。 Though there was a few parts drawn cute, or pretty. テレビ以上のクオリティではあるものの、 It may have been more than TV quality 映画館でやるレベルでもない感じ。 but I didn't feel it was up to theater level. 脚本も演出も間の取り方がどう言うわけかいまいちなシーンが多く、テンポが余り良くない。 The script, the acting, the placement of time were all somehow a little off in a lot of scenes, and the pace wasn't very good. もしかしたら3部作に分けたために、 I couldn't help but think they sacrificed the first part この1作目が犠牲になったのでは？ と思ってしまう。 in order to make it a three-parter. 670 >>625 あれで思えないなら、君はフィルムを見る目が決定的に欠けてるよ… If you couldn't think so from that, then there is something seriously wrong with your film-watching eyes. |
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A lot of mixed opinions in this. One person said I think the trilogy will flop. I can't see them fucking up the movie like that. I mean they been doing good all these years. |
AntearionJan 8, 2016 1:43 PM
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Antearion said: A lot of mixed opinions in this. One person said I think the trilogy will flop. I can't see them fucking up the movie like that. I mean they been doing good all these years. That comment was mistranslated- "It wasn't a good idea for them to make them into a trilogy" is better, which I definitely agree with. If they made it into a single 3hour movie it had potential to massively expand the fanbase of the series- Maybe Kizu itself will make less money but it would have been a great investment to the franchise but this just isn't friendly to newcomers and is to milk the fanbase |
vvvorticJan 8, 2016 10:30 PM
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| Just finished watching.. very fluid animation, awesome music and sound effects. |
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vvvortic said: That is expected when 1 novel worth of content is being split into three movies. I bet they still had to drag it.582 63分とか短いなと思ってたけど濃すぎてお腹いっぱいだった 63 minutes is way short I thought, but it was so rich I was left feeling full. vvvortic said: Lol, true.587 熱血編の夏公開って11月くらいかな？ "Nekketsu-hen opens this summer." So some time around November, then? |
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These comments make the movie sound disappointing but they're probably being overly critical like always. I'll go in with moderate expectations. My main concern is the supposed lack of inner dialogue from the story perspective and the constant shade of red from the previews. |
Antearion said: who knows they might have rushed the movie since the kizumonogatari is pretty thick novel compared to other arcs but you know there are thosebutthurt fans who want everything .. let's wait for the dvd/BD release and watch it ourselves only then can we say about itA lot of mixed opinions in this. One person said I think the trilogy will flop. I can't see them fucking up the movie like that. I mean they been doing good all these years. |
| Hey everyone, I just got back from the Cinema in Shinjuku. I will try to explain my experience without spoiling too much. The movie wasn't bad but had several things that bothered me. Most importantly, the visuals was a huge factor as it utilized CG backgrounds. The CG wasn't terrible however it made all the characters out of place in many scenes. Like what Wolfeystein stated, the story has an absence of inner monologues which was one of the best things of the Kizumonogatari novel. Thus, several scenes have been highly exaggeratted. For example, Kiss-Shot's introduction looked like a scene from a horror movie and I couldn't help but laugh a little at how Araragi dealt with the whole situation. Fans of Hanakawa are in for a treat with her famous fanservice introduction. Dramaturgy, Episode, and Guillotinecutter's appearances were kinda cool. Araragi's terror was much more profound in this scene and made Meme's appearance much more dramatic (the visuals/animation were great). The whole thing ends on an awkward part and just makes the wait for summer much worse. The OST was very different and provided a different atmosphere compared to the tv series. I agree with one of those japanese comments saying it was a bit "scat-tish" and repetitive. Though I did like a few of the songs. The iconic text cut-ins were somewhat helpful but most of the time it was a lot of Italian(?)/French(?) words. The word "Noir" appeared so many times I lost count. The movie even utilized morse code cut-ins in a specific scene. Also, I feel like the way the movie started was just a way for them to consume more run-time. Overall, I think splitting it into a trilogy of movies is a bad idea but I hope the second part convinces me otherwise. |
JaveraJan 12, 2016 2:38 AM
| my god having to wait for all three of them is gonna kill me :P |
| Can't wait for this!! |
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| 1 book, 3 movies. The entirety of it is oddly reminiscent of post-ring of power Peter Jackson. |
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| Is it English subbed yet? Or is it gonna take some months for that to happen? |
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mugi said: Kreion said: I agree that 3 was too many movies...2 would probably have been fine since they could have a good cut off point about mid-way, but three movies when there is only one real fight IN the book was just execisve. It feels like it will only be worth watching when at lest two of the movies are out anyway. Also I disagree strongly with the decision the leave out the inner monologue, it's been a staple of the series since Bake regardless of who is narrating. The rest of the anime also cut more than half of the monologue so it's nothing new. I agree, of course they would cut more than half, since it's not a novel (a book), it's an ANIME. Btw, what did you think of the movie, Mugi? (If you've already watched it, of course) |
| Saw it last month on the European premiere in Berlin. At first the amount of CG and still frames was somewhat unsettling, but I got used to this after a while. However, the style of animation changes drastically or mixes very distinctive techniques (like rotoscoping on CG backgrounds) together. I'm honestly not sure if it got better at some point or I just stopped paying attention and focused on action instead, but it hasn't ruined the scenes anyway. The most important sequences were simply beautiful, and the story well-written and good to follow even for anime-only fans. As @Javera said, most of the cut-ins consisted of French (somewhat clichéd) phrases on black and white backgrounds. Nice reference to vintage horror movies, actually. On the other hand, the OST and animation resembles Nisekoi a lot, especially during Hanekawa moments, and you really get that original Bakemonogatari vibe. It's a solid 9/10 for me. |
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