Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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AnimeLife101 said: bmxer44 said: can you send me a link to a site where i could read/buy it in english to read it if you know of one? Im pretty sure its on KissManga That's the manga, not the novels. MAnga is awful and doesn't especially goes further than the anime anyway. bmxer44 said: can you send me a link to a site where i could read/buy it in english to read it if you know of one? It isn't licensed in english. It is currently being translated online by an amateur translator on Nanodesu website. |
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GoldenHearted1 said: I really hope they Will make a 2nd season and my favorites was Adlet and of course the princess. I hope the princess turns good at the end and Adlet and the princess and flamie gets married β€οΈππππππ and it left a Big whole in ending. What happends next? Do they defeat the Demon Lord? Do they find the imposter in time and kill the 7/8 or do they fail. #Season2I'mWaiting4You!!! The princess isn't "bad" to begin with. Her choice is making complete sense and is clearly a better choice to save humanity on the long run than the Rokka system. This is a "ruler" type of choice. Sacrificing some to save many rather than risking to lose everyone. Remember, Nashetania was raised as the next ruler of her kingdom. There is nothing surprising in that among all the characters, she's the one who was receptive to the arguments in favour of that "method" of saving humanity. The reaction of the other Rokka is very in line with the reaction of the masses when a ruler decided to do that kind of things. It doesn't change the fact that sometimes, this had to be done, and that deciding which is wrong and which isn't is not an easy task. She's fighting to break the eternal war endangering humanity's survival. Doesn't seem to me something a bad guy would do . I've seen a lot of peoples saying that she's weak, that she's crazy, and the like, but that's wrong. She's highly skilled in combat, perfectly sane (or at least as much sane as the average rokka LOL :D ), and not a "bad guy" at all. Except for Tgurneu, there isn't really any "bad guy" in RnY, they're all doing their best to help their race/allies. |
ZefyrisJun 3, 2016 3:20 AM
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Zefyris said: GoldenHearted1 said: I really hope they Will make a 2nd season and my favorites was Adlet and of course the princess. I hope the princess turns good at the end and Adlet and the princess and flamie gets married β€οΈππππππ and it left a Big whole in ending. What happends next? Do they defeat the Demon Lord? Do they find the imposter in time and kill the 7/8 or do they fail. #Season2I'mWaiting4You!!! The princess isn't "bad" to begin with. Her choice is making complete sense and is clearly a better choice to save humanity on the long run than the Rokka system. This is a "ruler" type of choice. Sacrificing some to save many rather than risking to lose everyone. Remember, Nashetania was raised as the next ruler of her kingdom. There is nothing surprising in that among all the characters, she's the one who was receptive to the arguments in favour of that "method" of saving humanity. The reaction of the other Rokka is very in line with the reaction of the masses when a ruler decided to do that kind of things. It doesn't change the fact that sometimes, this had to be done, and that deciding which is wrong and which isn't is not an easy task. She's fighting to break the eternal war endangering humanity's survival. Doesn't seem to me something a bad guy would do . I've seen a lot of peoples saying that she's weak, that she's crazy, and the like, but that's wrong. She's highly skilled in combat, perfectly sane (or at least as much sane as the average rokka LOL :D ), and not a "bad guy" at all. Except for Tgurneu, there isn't really any "bad guy" in RnY, they're all doing their best to help their race/allies. I would say you are correct in that Natasha isn't all bad. I have read what has currently been translated up to I believe is Volume 5 of the light novel since I loved this show I had to see what he LN was about and if it was adapted okay. Natasha loses me when she thinks the Yoma should be treated as equals and the humans should welcome them. Thats where I differ, the Yoma haven't shown any signs outside of the Dog(name escapes me), to being able to coexist-now thats because they haven't tried. I don't think living with a creature that only a few of its kinda can actually think properly is a great Idea considering they have a taste for humans and would hesitate to kill. From what I gather the Yoma are more or less an evil species that Predates on Humans and smaller organisms. Her Ideas are that of a Dicator/ruler/king in that it would be best to sacrifice a few to save the whole but that few number that she gave was a shit ton. Best solution albeit tougher is defeat the Majin/Tgurneu and call it a day where more than likely the 6 flowers will have to sacrifice a few themselves in battle. I wish I had read more but the translator website(Nanodesu) seems to be on a hiatus for a little while so I don't much more now. I think if nothing else they could do a small 3 episode OVA or maybe a move to finish off the series. |
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Maverick-sama said: Zefyris said: The princess isn't "bad" to begin with. Her choice is making complete sense and is clearly a better choice to save humanity on the long run than the Rokka system. This is a "ruler" type of choice. Sacrificing some to save many rather than risking to lose everyone. Remember, Nashetania was raised as the next ruler of her kingdom. There is nothing surprising in that among all the characters, she's the one who was receptive to the arguments in favour of that "method" of saving humanity. The reaction of the other Rokka is very in line with the reaction of the masses when a ruler decided to do that kind of things. It doesn't change the fact that sometimes, this had to be done, and that deciding which is wrong and which isn't is not an easy task. She's fighting to break the eternal war endangering humanity's survival. Doesn't seem to me something a bad guy would do . I've seen a lot of peoples saying that she's weak, that she's crazy, and the like, but that's wrong. She's highly skilled in combat, perfectly sane (or at least as much sane as the average rokka LOL :D ), and not a "bad guy" at all. Except for Tgurneu, there isn't really any "bad guy" in RnY, they're all doing their best to help their race/allies. I would say you are correct in that Natasha isn't all bad. I have read what has currently been translated up to I believe is Volume 5 of the light novel since I loved this show I had to see what he LN was about and if it was adapted okay. Natasha loses me when she thinks the Yoma should be treated as equals and the humans should welcome them. Thats where I differ, the Yoma haven't shown any signs outside of the Dog(name escapes me), to being able to coexist-now thats because they haven't tried. I don't think living with a creature that only a few of its kinda can actually think properly is a great Idea considering they have a taste for humans and would hesitate to kill. From what I gather the Yoma are more or less an evil species that Predates on Humans and smaller organisms. Her Ideas are that of a Dicator/ruler/king in that it would be best to sacrifice a few to save the whole but that few number that she gave was a shit ton. Best solution albeit tougher is defeat the Majin/Tgurneu and call it a day where more than likely the 6 flowers will have to sacrifice a few themselves in battle. I wish I had read more but the translator website(Nanodesu) seems to be on a hiatus for a little while so I don't much more now. I think if nothing else they could do a small 3 episode OVA or maybe a move to finish off the series. Who's Natasha ? xD What you're missing is that they're behaving that way because they are ordered to by the majin. It's not the kyouma themselves that are willingly attacking humans. They are not "evil" at all. They're figthing humans just like humans are fighting them. From the kyouma's point of view, humans who selled their mother for a thousand of years and are killing so many of their brothers are the evil species here. Humans don't hesitate at all killing kyouma, just like they don't hesitate to kill humans. The only difference is that they are affected by the Majin's will. Also, they don't kill intentionally anything else outside of human. Fremy even says it in episode 2 when talking to the dogs. Also, better of 500k than the whole humanity. Because just to say, without any change in the current system, the whole humanity isn't going to survive at all. Defeating Tgurneu isn't enough at all. The other main opponent is far, far more difficult than defeating Tgurneu. What makes you believe that any of those rokka could survive all of this and reach the majin to seal it again? What if they fail (they have far more chances to fail than winning...) ? Humanity is doomed. And even if they don't fail, what Nashetania is trying right now, you won't get it again in 300 years, no way. And in 300 years humanity will perish completely. |
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Zefyris said: Maverick-sama said: I would say you are correct in that Natasha isn't all bad. I have read what has currently been translated up to I believe is Volume 5 of the light novel since I loved this show I had to see what he LN was about and if it was adapted okay. Natasha loses me when she thinks the Yoma should be treated as equals and the humans should welcome them. Thats where I differ, the Yoma haven't shown any signs outside of the Dog(name escapes me), to being able to coexist-now thats because they haven't tried. I don't think living with a creature that only a few of its kinda can actually think properly is a great Idea considering they have a taste for humans and would hesitate to kill. From what I gather the Yoma are more or less an evil species that Predates on Humans and smaller organisms. Her Ideas are that of a Dicator/ruler/king in that it would be best to sacrifice a few to save the whole but that few number that she gave was a shit ton. Best solution albeit tougher is defeat the Majin/Tgurneu and call it a day where more than likely the 6 flowers will have to sacrifice a few themselves in battle. I wish I had read more but the translator website(Nanodesu) seems to be on a hiatus for a little while so I don't much more now. I think if nothing else they could do a small 3 episode OVA or maybe a move to finish off the series. Who's Natasha ? xD What you're missing is that they're behaving that way because they are ordered to by the majin. It's not the kyouma themselves that are willingly attacking humans. They are not "evil" at all. They're figthing humans just like humans are fighting them. From the kyouma's point of view, humans who selled their mother for a thousand of years and are killing so many of their brothers are the evil species here. Humans don't hesitate at all killing kyouma, just like they don't hesitate to kill humans. The only difference is that they are affected by the Majin's will. Also, they don't kill intentionally anything else outside of human. Fremy even says it in episode 2 when talking to the dogs. Also, better of 500k than the whole humanity. Because just to say, without any change in the current system, the whole humanity isn't going to survive at all. Defeating Tgurneu isn't enough at all. The other main opponent is far, far more difficult than defeating Tgurneu. What makes you believe that any of those rokka could survive all of this and reach the majin to seal it again? What if they fail (they have far more chances to fail than winning...) ? Humanity is doomed. And even if they don't fail, what Nashetania is trying right now, you won't get it again in 300 years, no way. And in 300 years humanity will perish completely. My apologies, autocorrect changed the name and I didn't catch it before I posted-Nashetania. I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree here. I don't see it that way really at all. Maybe my opinion will change once I read more but that's my current opinion. |
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Maverick-sama said: Zefyris said: Who's Natasha ? xD What you're missing is that they're behaving that way because they are ordered to by the majin. It's not the kyouma themselves that are willingly attacking humans. They are not "evil" at all. They're figthing humans just like humans are fighting them. From the kyouma's point of view, humans who selled their mother for a thousand of years and are killing so many of their brothers are the evil species here. Humans don't hesitate at all killing kyouma, just like they don't hesitate to kill humans. The only difference is that they are affected by the Majin's will. Also, they don't kill intentionally anything else outside of human. Fremy even says it in episode 2 when talking to the dogs. Also, better of 500k than the whole humanity. Because just to say, without any change in the current system, the whole humanity isn't going to survive at all. Defeating Tgurneu isn't enough at all. The other main opponent is far, far more difficult than defeating Tgurneu. What makes you believe that any of those rokka could survive all of this and reach the majin to seal it again? What if they fail (they have far more chances to fail than winning...) ? Humanity is doomed. And even if they don't fail, what Nashetania is trying right now, you won't get it again in 300 years, no way. And in 300 years humanity will perish completely. My apologies, autocorrect changed the name and I didn't catch it before I posted-Nashetania. I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree here. I don't see it that way really at all. Maybe my opinion will change once I read more but that's my current opinion. It's not a matter of opinion though. Hatred towards humain is compulsory for them because they were ordered to hate them. If, let's say, they would be ordered to not hate them anymore, they would lose that compulsory emotions. Kyouma have their own feelings, but contrary to humains, they can receive absolute orders from above ( from their affiliated kyouma general, and from the majin). There is absolutely nothing evil to them. |
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xEzioAuditore said: Zefyris said: The princess isn't "bad" to begin with. Her choice is making complete sense and is clearly a better choice to save humanity on the long run than the Rokka system. This is a "ruler" type of choice. Sacrificing some to save many rather than risking to lose everyone. Remember, Nashetania was raised as the next ruler of her kingdom. There is nothing surprising in that among all the characters, she's the one who was receptive to the arguments in favour of that "method" of saving humanity. The reaction of the other Rokka is very in line with the reaction of the masses when a ruler decided to do that kind of things. It doesn't change the fact that sometimes, this had to be done, and that deciding which is wrong and which isn't is not an easy task. She's fighting to break the eternal war endangering humanity's survival. Doesn't seem to me something a bad guy would do . I've seen a lot of peoples saying that she's weak, that she's crazy, and the like, but that's wrong. She's highly skilled in combat, perfectly sane (or at least as much sane as the average rokka LOL :D ), and not a "bad guy" at all. Except for Tgurneu, there isn't really any "bad guy" in RnY, they're all doing their best to help their race/allies. I think her choice is better than sealing the Majin again. People are sick of it. This story is a masterpiece. I heard Yen Press is going to license it. So I've a question:What's licensing? is it buying the right to sell a product? If so, would they translate it? Yes, that's buying the right to translate and sell it, which means that this novel series will now get officially translated in english and released as physical copies in the US. |
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Zefyris said: xEzioAuditore said: I think her choice is better than sealing the Majin again. People are sick of it. This story is a masterpiece. I heard Yen Press is going to license it. So I've a question:What's licensing? is it buying the right to sell a product? If so, would they translate it? Yes, that's buying the right to translate and sell it, which means that this novel series will now get officially translated in english and released as physical copies in the US. And EU pleb will have to import, again. sigh... |
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Sidholun said: Zefyris said: Yes, that's buying the right to translate and sell it, which means that this novel series will now get officially translated in english and released as physical copies in the US. And EU pleb will have to import, again. sigh... Afaik Book Depository has completely free shipping so this shouldn't cost more. |
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Good to know. Still, its always the same - either no release in eu, or goodies are released much later here. Its always annoying. But still, its good that it was licensed. At least maybe now rokka will get attention it deserves . |
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| I have been waiting forever for the 5th volume to be completely translated. Now I'll just buy the hard copy when it's available. I don't have any problems paying some $ to the creators. It's a great series and I have really enjoyed reading the LN and watching the anime. Giving back some money so they can keep the series active is fine by me. |
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| Survived without spoiler hoho, so far, the only anime ever deceived me with such ending episode. never really thought AT ALL the seventh would be , was really mind blown then the last episode ended with , I was really on verge to burst my head, went straight look up at google, reading for next spoiler and shizz, the studio really should make another season or at least give the rights to another rich studio to make. The story built up for the first volume adapted is already masterpiece, why does the sale do not go increase after the anime released smh. This series totally deserves another season. In the meantime, YP still slow translating the LN. |
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scytheavatar said: Tenshi_Shura said: Was there a reason Rokka did badly in Japan? I mean it seems like the type that attracts otakus. Pure fantasy series seldom do well in Japan, or at least hasn't been doing well in recent times. That's why stuff like Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu, Madan no Ou to Vanadis and Hitsugi no Chaika sold poorly. It's the RPG inspired fantasy like Overlord/No Game No Life/DanMachi that seem to sell well. no comedy + no tons of fanservice = no otaku support. |
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| Up to now, Passinone has just produced several anime so I'm not sure that they can produce season 2. Another reason is this anime just has an producer: Pony Canyon so I think they need money for season 2 |
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| IIRC the original text is just that the studio/the director is interested. This isn't up to the studio to decide about this, so them saying this sentence doesn't mean anything. The publisher, author, and a/several producers have to agree to it before anything. And I'll point out that since that anime didn't sell,; if they ever agree to do a second season, they're probably NOT going to pick Passione anyway (the only one in there who may be interested to re-pick the same staff may be the author, because his work was really respected compared to most other adapted novels). So if anything, them publicly announcing they're interested may be because they feel like if it's done one day, Passione is probably not going to be asked if they want to do it or not. So they said it without being asked to put more chances for them, maybe? ^^" Also, that linked source is incorrect on other things, the first season was based on the first volume, not on volume 1-3. |
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| ^ This article has several mistakes/misinformation in it and will not tell anything to anyone searching for an answer about season 2. On top of this, it was already posted 4 posts above yours and I already answered that as well. |
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| Vol.5 will be released in august 2018 finally <3 http://www.b2c.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/ishio-yamagata/rokka-braves-of-the-six-flowers-vol-5-light-novel/9780316556231/?yen |
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| I couldn't care less if there was. This series was absolutely atrocious and broke almost 3/4 of the rules in writing a good mystery (look up the 20 rules for writing detective stories by S.S. Van Dine, 1888-1939). No, Japan does not have shit taste. They understood that this failed as a mystery series and they spoke with their wallets. |
Shirasho said: I couldn't care less if there was. This series was absolutely atrocious and broke almost 3/4 of the rules in writing a good mystery (look up the 20 rules for writing detective stories by S.S. Van Dine, 1888-1939). No, Japan does not have shit taste. They understood that this failed as a mystery series and they spoke with their wallets. Not really. The author respected all the important rules from that list. The few he didn't respect are not important and more of Van Dine's personal opinion. And BTW, I've yet to see a single.other.fantasy.story. managing to respect thaaat many of Van Dine rules. And guess what, I've read a shit ton of novels in my life. So yeah, let's trash that story for not respecting some of those rules when that story basically did better than pretty much any other author ever managed to do. Wow, what a good reason. |
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Zefyris said: Shirasho said: I couldn't care less if there was. This series was absolutely atrocious and broke almost 3/4 of the rules in writing a good mystery (look up the 20 rules for writing detective stories by S.S. Van Dine, 1888-1939). No, Japan does not have shit taste. They understood that this failed as a mystery series and they spoke with their wallets. Not really. The author respected all the important rules from that list. The few he didn't respect are not important and more of Van Dine's personal opinion. And BTW, I've yet to see a single.other.fantasy.story. managing to respect thaaat many of Van Dine rules. And guess what, I've read a shit ton of novels in my life. So yeah, let's trash that story for not respecting some of those rules when that story basically did better than pretty much any other author ever managed to do. Wow, what a good reason. Id love to know what you think the "important rules" are. This series was an insult to the viewer. |
Shirasho said: Zefyris said: Not really. The author respected all the important rules from that list. The few he didn't respect are not important and more of Van Dine's personal opinion. And BTW, I've yet to see a single.other.fantasy.story. managing to respect thaaat many of Van Dine rules. And guess what, I've read a shit ton of novels in my life. So yeah, let's trash that story for not respecting some of those rules when that story basically did better than pretty much any other author ever managed to do. Wow, what a good reason. Id love to know what you think the "important rules" are. This series was an insult to the viewer. Rule 1,2,4,5,8,15,18 are the only ones really important. Some other rules range from sometimes relevant to total bullshit and personal preferences. The only rules Rokka volume 1 did not respect btw, are 3,13,14,19. Out of those, only 14th has some kind of relevance, but due to the world being fantasy, holds no interest here and is broken by default. 3,13,19 are just Van Dine's personal preferences (and proven to be bad rules many times since so many good detective authors have ignored them anyway). All the others are respected. Your "intelligence" was never insulted. Your "intelligence" however, may have been a little too much challenged with that one if you missed the title respecting all those rules and truly believe that 3/4 of the rules were not respected. |
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Nigami_Shin said: Fai said: Sadly no because Japan just does not care about quality narrative. People out there were also complaining that the "setting was too western" and so on, so yeah. As good as it was(despite its flaws near the end), go read the novels. lol Rokka no Yuusha was bad and thats why nobody bought it. ....really don't get how people can like such a boring story - maybe just the characters?! Some people don't mind this type of story "boring" is more of an opinion and opinions are subjective thus there are some people who thinks this is "somewhat entertaining" even if it may seem boring to some. BTW somewhat entertaining is all it is, it still doesn't have the characters, the art or the story to revolutionise the industry. Also I would buy the light novel... If (a) I knew where to buy it (uk π¬π§ only, shipping from other countries is too expensive) (b) if it is in English, (c) if I can afford it, since I can barely afford food, clothes shelter and bills at the same time (one has to suffer if I go for other things, usually food.) |
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| Found it but the price is rather awful for a novel that old. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rokka-Braves-Flowers-light-novel/dp/0316501417 That'll be a weak without food! BTW for reference, the latest skullduggery pleasant book after just 1 month was £10 |
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