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Dec 22, 2015 3:47 AM
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Rex_Connor said:
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True but Gray is far from Natsu.


They are protrayed to be on the same level and Gray has superior magical advantage of being a demon slayer when they fight.


With their inherited power-ups (lets say Natsu possesses Igneel's power yet) -> Natsu > Gray

Natsu losing Igneel's power -> Natsu = Gray

Natsu isn't END right now (the power/alter ego is sealed in the book right now) so Gray doesn't has an advantage over him, also it's been stated many times END is on / surpasses the level of Acnologia so -> END Natsu > Gray
Dec 22, 2015 5:02 AM
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Chaos_Harbinger said:
Rex_Connor said:
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They are protrayed to be on the same level and Gray has superior magical advantage of being a demon slayer when they fight.
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With their inherited power-ups (lets say Natsu possesses Igneel&#039;s power yet) -&gt; Natsu &gt; Gray<br />
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Natsu losing Igneel&#039;s power -&gt; Natsu = Gray<br />
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Natsu isn&#039;t END right now (the power/alter ego is sealed in the book right now) so Gray doesn&#039;t has an advantage over him, also it&#039;s been stated many times END is on / surpasses the level of Acnologia so -&gt; END Natsu &gt; Gray


But marred Geer is a compulsive liar
Dec 22, 2015 6:19 AM

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Natsu is stronger cuz he is the MC and he is going to be the one to beat Acno and resolve things with Zeref. Dunno what all the discussion is about
"But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital...
and now we are two and one of us has to be shit."
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Dec 22, 2015 8:23 AM

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trump54 said:
Chaos_Harbinger said:
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With their inherited power-ups (lets say Natsu possesses Igneel&#039;s power yet) -&gt; Natsu &gt; Gray<br />
<br />
Natsu losing Igneel&#039;s power -&gt; Natsu = Gray<br />
<br />
Natsu isn&#039;t END right now (the power/alter ego is sealed in the book right now) so Gray doesn&#039;t has an advantage over him, also it&#039;s been stated many times END is on / surpasses the level of Acnologia so -&gt; END Natsu &gt; Gray


But marred Geer is a compulsive liar


It's not about Mard been a liar or not. It's the fact that even Acnologia himself tried to put a stop to END. And Acnologia always pops up when Zeref is involved and senses him or something related to him.
metsujinDec 22, 2015 11:15 AM
Dec 22, 2015 1:59 PM

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Chaos_Harbinger said:
Rex_Connor said:


They are protrayed to be on the same level and Gray has superior magical advantage of being a demon slayer when they fight.


With their inherited power-ups (lets say Natsu possesses Igneel's power yet) -> Natsu > Gray

Natsu losing Igneel's power -> Natsu = Gray

Natsu isn't END right now (the power/alter ego is sealed in the book right now) so Gray doesn't has an advantage over him, also it's been stated many times END is on / surpasses the level of Acnologia so -> END Natsu > Gray


I think it's clear now that Natsu no longer possesses Igneel's power as it was one time only.

From what I have seen Ice has been > fire in this manga. We have Gray easily freeze flames from his respective opponents, but Natsu on the other hand couldn't melt even segments of Silver's ice.

Gray has an advantage over END actually based on the virtue of his demon slaying magic which is 5 x time more powerful to damage END than normal magic. Examples of display was shown on Tartaros arc and that even something couldn't even be considered a finisher from Gray's DeS arsenal oneshotted Marde.

END doesn't surpass Acnologia. Character's opinion should be mean nothing in this manga. Igneel himself was confused on Acnologia's intentions and was speculating himself.
Dec 22, 2015 2:02 PM

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Kanic said:
Natsu is stronger cuz he is the MC and he is going to be the one to beat Acno and resolve things with Zeref. Dunno what all the discussion is about


This argument never works given how tons of people are stronger than Natsu. and you think the rest of the dragonslayers are going to be used as fodder against Acnologia that only the likes of Natsu would beat Acno? when he's clearly not strong enough for the task? That's just being naive.
Infact Zeref was easily healed from Natsu's onslaught and strongest mode.
Dec 22, 2015 3:16 PM
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They keep teasing us with story and then jumping to various fights. Its honestly annoying. JUST PICK SOMEONE TO FOCUS ON!
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Dec 22, 2015 5:03 PM

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Rex_Connor said:
Kanic said:
Natsu is stronger cuz he is the MC and he is going to be the one to beat Acno and resolve things with Zeref. Dunno what all the discussion is about


This argument never works given how tons of people are stronger than Natsu. and you think the rest of the dragonslayers are going to be used as fodder against Acnologia that only the likes of Natsu would beat Acno? when he's clearly not strong enough for the task? That's just being naive.
Infact Zeref was easily healed from Natsu's onslaught and strongest mode.


I wasn't being proud/self-entitled about it. I was just stating my previous experience with FT. For example, I could use similar arguements for the fight between Zero and Natsu.. Natsu will still be the one to beat Acno, be it as END, with teamwork or solo, one way or the other he will do it
"But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital...
and now we are two and one of us has to be shit."
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Dec 22, 2015 5:04 PM

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Kanic said:
Rex_Connor said:


This argument never works given how tons of people are stronger than Natsu. and you think the rest of the dragonslayers are going to be used as fodder against Acnologia that only the likes of Natsu would beat Acno? when he's clearly not strong enough for the task? That's just being naive.
Infact Zeref was easily healed from Natsu's onslaught and strongest mode.


I wasn't being proud/self-entitled about it. I was just stating my previous experience with FT. For example, I could use similar arguements for the fight between Zero and Natsu.. Natsu will still be the one to beat Acno, be it as END, with teamwork or solo, one way or the other he will do it


Just ignore any of Rex's posts. He's a delusional Gray zealot like the rest of them. No logic or reason to be found in any of his drivel.
Dec 22, 2015 9:29 PM

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^ That awkward moment when your psychiatric fetish for Natsu is just as worse, and your entire post is as if you were typing in front of a mirror.
Dec 22, 2015 10:27 PM
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Ok, don't start arguing, guys ;-;. I didn't mean to start a Natsu vs Gray war lol. I was only putting forth my opinion.
Dec 23, 2015 1:03 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Kanic said:


I wasn't being proud/self-entitled about it. I was just stating my previous experience with FT. For example, I could use similar arguements for the fight between Zero and Natsu.. Natsu will still be the one to beat Acno, be it as END, with teamwork or solo, one way or the other he will do it


Just ignore any of Rex's posts. He's a delusional Gray zealot like the rest of them. No logic or reason to be found in any of his drivel.


Ignore yourself. Your post is full of irony as you can't seem to understand that there is only one zealot. A Natsu zealot like yourself with no attachment to logic or reasoning to be found during your drivel lmao
Dec 23, 2015 3:15 AM

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Kaanso said:
Darklight0303 said:


Just ignore any of Rex's posts. He's a delusional Gray zealot like the rest of them. No logic or reason to be found in any of his drivel.


Ignore yourself. Your post is full of irony as you can't seem to understand that there is only one zealot. A Natsu zealot like yourself with no attachment to logic or reasoning to be found during your drivel lmao
Bruh, there is logic to his posts. As evident when he says Hiro abruptly ended the Avatar arc because he was coerced by his fans. Oh wait, that's just his unproven delusional headcanon. Nevermind.
Dec 23, 2015 4:36 AM

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Interesting I guess. The ending was unexpected.
Dec 23, 2015 8:10 AM

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So many revelations these past chapter, I wanted to rate it +1 merely because of the way it is working out.
Zeref and Igneel being good friends, my heart broke 😭😭
And now Brandish is about to get killed too, besides that the Grim Reaper looks awesome as hell, damn :o
Dec 23, 2015 11:44 AM

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I had hope to see a fight between Dimaria and Erza but now i wanna see Kagura kick her ass :D
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poor Brandish...
sup
Apr 22, 2016 1:59 AM

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No lady brandish don't die
Sep 12, 2016 9:44 AM
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Lucy-is-onemagic said:
And now who can kill Marin? Kill him PLEASE, he's hurting Brandish-chan
Given the way she treated him do you blame him?
Sep 25, 2016 11:11 AM

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Zeref gettin' a wardrobe change? Curious how that will look like :3
Knew God Serena would fight those he betrayed and he is left with August and this Jacob. Should be a interesting battle.
Bradman.. i do not what to say but he's a scary looking mofu.... but alright.

Brandish taken out by a former subordinate? now thats a Surprise. Maybe this'll begin her turn if Lucy saves her? right?
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
May 10, 2017 9:38 PM

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well the things are staring up hop will natsu survive ...welll let's see .... but how will they stop Zeref now
Aug 26, 2017 4:14 PM

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that brandman or grim guy seems scary and the fight seems to be intensifying.
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove

Aug 15, 2018 10:52 AM

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That crazy bastard is choking Brandish-sama!
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