The Asterisk War (light novel)
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| I really enjoyed this episode, because I really want to learn more about Claudia. The anime seems to be ignoring her (I'm not sure how the light novel approaches this, as I haven't read it), there's an arc for every other girl but oh well. Still looking forward to maybe being able to see her fight. Hopefully this "Gyps Festa" will be a team battle of all five. |
Xenocrisi said: Great episode, and great animation as well. This episode was really nice, but animation? Nope, the same goes for art. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| Damn. Poor Claudia. That's a harsh price she has to pay for her Ogre Lux. Also I'm curious about her wish now. You know, I was about to call Ayato out, since this is the second time he's turned Claudia down, but he does have the fight in the morning... Still, come on, dude. I've really warmed up to that red-head girl. At first, I thought she was going to be this generic evil villain, but she's pretty cool. I like her relationship with her sister as well. |
| Eleven episodes in and we find out more about the side characters than the main girl and MC... Lol |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Buildup episode for the finale, a pretty good one i'd say. Perhaps the dinner was a bit of a waste of time but we still got some interesting information and a reminder about the overarching plot with Ayato's sister. Also a nice scene with Claudia, some really interesting information about the Ogre Luxes. The finale will be the battle with Irene and Priscilla, I hope they make it epic! |
| A very good build-up episode. Priscilla and Irene seems to be nice people, which is refreshing. However, I do worry that Irene's Gravi-Sheath might overpower her completely if she's not careful. Looking at the end of this episode though, it seems that her weapon influences her motives a lot. =/ For Claudia, her weapon has overpowered many users in the past to the point that they it got unbearable for them. Even with Claudia's skills, she seems to struggle to cope with her Ser-Veresta's power. Ayato should consider himself fortunate that he wasn't heavily injured this time... The art and animation is far from perfect, but I find it pretty good overall. I'd say it's better than GATE series 1, to be honest. I still find Dirk to be such a prick. He couldn't really care less if Priscilla got beaten up, saying that her regenerative skills will heal up the damage completely. If he had a brain to begin with, then he would know that her healing skills most likely WOULDN'T apply to mental scars at all. ¬_¬ Either way, his assistance's tarot cards predict that Ayato & Julis will lose against Priscilla and Irene, in which I hope that won't be the case. Who knows if the tarot cards are 100% successful with her predictions, but let's hope that isn't the case for next week. |
| The episode is full of revelations, but narratively is very addictive, I still can not figure out who attributed the cause, the thing that struck me most during the story, are the dishes served by sister Irene, really unusual, I expected dishes typically Japanese. Drawings and animations not exactly the best at times, oh well! Excellent ending, however. |
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| The whole Claudia dying every night in her sleep to placate her sword powers reminds me of the Kurokawa Karen curse that affected Kirika from C3 series. |
| Next week the first real fight starts. In this one, we learned some interesting things about the weapon. |
| So Claudia is already mentioning the next Vesta, will this be a split-cour? Ayato x Julis. Claudia x Me. |
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| I cannot find the words to express how bad Ass War is. |
| "sigh" another reason i hate why Claudia isn't the main focus |
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| Wack. at least Rakudai had good fights and skipped past the whole "It's not like I'm obsessed with you" BS. |
| Claudia is back as best girl. Dying 1200 times is.... respect. |
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| Claudia, a girl who died 1200 times.... how many deaths could people have in different ways anyway??? The lack of Kirin as always is disappointing.... I'm liking the vampire-ish girl. She's cool. But really nothing happens at all so far, probably because of the slow pace. This is hard for me because slow-paced and fast-paced is kind of wrong in the eyes of people. Taimadou 35 have a very fast paced and this anime is slow paced because of 2 cours. |
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| So Irene is tuning more and more into a vampire as she wields that scythe. I wonder if someone will save Irene before she is too far gone. ~Great episode!!! |
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Nigami_Shin said: how can they waste the 11th episode for a dinner and some ogre lux information? i know asterisk has 24 episodes but c'mon i don't wanna see this part end with a cliffhanger Agreed. It kinda doesn't feel like the show is going to end next week... It failed to project, at least, a bit of excitement that I desperately needed in order to look forward to the last episode of the season. I'm glad my expectations weren't high enough when I started watching this. Watching this episode like: |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: paraze said: I cannot find the words to express how bad Ass War is. Because you don't any actual reasons other than typical "I don't like this show/characters/[insert typical overused subjective biased reasons]" Because the horrendous visuals leave me speechless. Because I never saw something as generic as this show. Because characters interactions make no sense. Because the poor and shameless fanservice. Because all the conveniences make me cringe. Because the writing is so stupid (and even insulting at this point). Because... Seriously, it's even worse than SAO (I should rewatch it, though). |
parazeDec 15, 2015 3:02 AM
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Visuals and Production values are great and even praised by haters of the show........so saying they are horrendous is completely BS. Do you really think this fight is "good looking"? I mean, seriously? At the risk of sounding condescending, don't you notice the horrible and immersion breaking CGI classmates? The weird perspective and camera angles? Sure it's flashy, there are lots of sparkles, and it looks cool (plus MC is so badass and the main girl is so sexy ^^'), but this fight is so typical, unmemorable, and even stupid (i'm cutting the explosion in half cause i'm kirito yeaaaaah). And what's to great about this scene? About this one? What's so great about repeating 5 frames during nine seconds of a girl running (the camera showing her chest)? Dragon_Slayer_X said: The word "Generic" is overused to the point that it can't be taken seriously anymore......try something new if you want to make an argument. Some people may overuse the word "generic"... so what? Ass War is generic, that's a fact. And that's a problem since it's basically the same as Mahouka and SAO, that's a problem because it's sad to see animation studios always staying in their comfort zone, especially when it means making shitty shows. Ayato is a generic harem MC, Julis a generic tsundere, Saya a generic Ayanami Rei ripoff, the loli is a generic loli, bad guys are generic bad guys. And they all are poorly-written. But I guess none of that matter since Saya-chan best girl and the president is 11/10 would fap again. Dragon_Slayer_X said: You forgot the later part......"makes no sense because i am watching the show for hating on it" Make no sense because the girls have no reason for loving the MC. Make no sense because the tsundere moments of the main girl are totally random (cf. the scene that introduce us the characters... and what a great introduction btw, and cf. the rest of the show). Make no sense because they're so caricatural (boooo the bad uncle who hits the oppai-loli, boooo the generic club presidents discuss of random and unimportant things with an horrible lighting seriously it's ugly and there is a badass loli and a fight is about to start wow so much tension) and feel so convenient (like the pool episode... what a character development! Saya and the oppai-loli have gained lots of depth, thanks to their great interactions resulting of the amazing plot). Dragon_Slayer_X said: So you don't like fanservice.........that not a reason either. Maybe you should stop watching any show with harem or echhi tags instead of whining about some skin showing. There isn't much service from episode 3 either and episode 8 was a filler episode. I do enjoy fanservice, or rather, I do enjoy good fanservice. You know, not a completely non-immersive one. A one which does not solely aim to please the audience, a mindful one (Evangelion is a great example). Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:08 AM
| It always feel like Claudia and Ayato have some backstory |
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| Well, "Yes it's good looking", no it isn't. "i don't really find anything stupid there" i didn't even talk about the stupid reason of this stupid fight btw, you know, the MC seeing the main girl half-naked for some predictable reasons, which was a pretty bad and lame way to introduce the characters. "1) Introduction of a new character [...] instead of those scenes", I was talking about animation/art/whatver "without any actual reasons" you're joking. "Let's hate on popular shows" no seriously you're joking, just look at my examples, my signature, my profile, my list... stop deceiving yourself about me to find reasons for saying i'm wrong. "keep submissive for his own desire" for his own convenient desire. You could argue that Bullet of Bullets makes sense with such arguments. Don't. "Which fight?" i was talking about the random generic caricature of bad generic club president almost taking a fight with another random generic caricature of bad generic club president "You really can't decide which fanservice scene is like what for everyone and you can obviously skip those scenes as they don't fit your standards", Gunbuster's fanservice is better than ass war's, that's a fact "several fanservice scenes had important exposition relevant to the plot so you can take the fanservice as a bonus", no "exposition is boring to you as well." bad exposition is boring indeed, especially when it involves generic plot with generic characters with generic visuals Mod Edit: Removed inflammatory content. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:16 AM
| Having dinner with the red head sisters :) If Julies didn't come, he would have gotten a better pay back ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Poor Claudia :'( I wonder if there's an ogre lux that turns you into a werewolf :) Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:18 AM
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| Let's talk a little more seriously. I understand why you react like this. I did the same 2 years ago with someone who were trying to explain to me that Code Geass isn't a great anime at all (which is obviously true). I protected myself and mine opinions by saying that he was he was just a """hipster""" (damn) who simply hates popular shows cause he has nothing better to do. I even wrote tons of walls of text to explain that he was wrong because at the end it was just his own subjective, biased (and wrong) argument. That had to be the case, since he was a mere hipster. Btw, I'm far from being as "hipsteresque" as he was with me. I know what you're going to say: "still no real arguments and you're escaping the debate". Now I'm going to write something that I hate even more than "get back to your otaku pandering stuff", something that this guy told to me and made me going on my nerves: "let's talk about it again in what... 2-3 years, ok? let's do that?!". I hate it for obvious reasons, and because during that time, I realized that I was stupid and that he was often right. Ass War is quite possibly one of the worst show I have ever seen, even worse than SAO, and few years ago I honestly thought that this one was pretty good. I just watched The Snob's impressions of the first episode of Ass War. He makes good points (without going in depth), but I know I would have disagreed, just like you did with me ("so let me guess anything happening in a story that you don't like is convenient", "what else would you expect of someone whose arguments are basically 'X is bad because it's generic lol'." etc). For a (faaaaaar) more detailed and less pedantic/condescending approach, I recommend you Digibro's videos. Just you to know, I didn't merely repeat what he says in his videos, if fact I only saw the first one, which only breakdowns the first minutes of the first episode. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:19 AM
| And you might be right. It's been a huge time since I watched this show, my memories and judgement may not be accurate. That doesn't make this show (which has a couple of problem on its own, or at least more amplified, like the fanservice or the harem) good at all, though. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: ^Split courses does usually end up with cliffhangers, doesn't really matter if you want to see it or not. I don't give a flying shit if an anime is supposed to be a split course... 1st season not that much enjoyable with a lot of flaws= I won't be wasting my time watching the next season. paraze said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Because you don't any actual reasons other than typical "I don't like this show/characters/[insert typical overused subjective biased reasons]" Because the horrendous visuals leave me speechless. Because I never saw something as generic as this show. Because characters interactions make no sense. Because the poor and shameless fanservice. Because all the conveniences make me cringe. Because the writing is so stupid (and even insulting at this point). Because... Seriously, it's even worse than SAO (I should rewatch it, though). I agree with you at 99%. Horrendous visuals? Not at all imo... What actually got me to watch this anime were the visuals. But yes, this show is flawed as f*ck... Actually , many of my criticisms go to the MC: bland, average, no remarkable portraits, dull, as boring as Kristen Stewart's facial expressions... Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:22 AM
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| I know there's gunna be a season two airing in spring 2016, but, i dont understand how they're gunna rap up the season in the next episode. I feel like the battle thats about to occur would be too epic for one episode but not epic enough to wait until season 2. Also, what about OVA's? |
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Ryuutobi said: paraze said: If the mere existence of fanservice makes an anime bad, then ~90% of present days anime are bad because anime with 0 fanservice like Log Horizon is scarce.And you might be right. It's been a huge time since I watched this show, my memories and judgement may not be accurate. That doesn't make this show (which has a couple of problem on its own, or at least more amplified, like the fanservice or the harem) good at all, though. God I didn't say that, but Ass War's fanserv is more rude, non-immersive, comes out of nowhere, and don't respect the characters than most of the other anime's I've seen. And ~90% of anime are bad/mediocre/average/decent. memphis23 said: I agree with you at 99%. Horrendous visuals? Not at all imo... What actually got me to watch this anime were the visuals. I understand the appeal of the visuals. I mean, it's an A-1 Pictures show. But in term of animation, directing, and on and on, it's at best average. The comparison isn't fair, but look at this fight for example. And even if the style is different, for mundane scenes, KyoAni makes a waaay better job at animating mundane normal scenes. Dragon_Slayer_X will say that it's just poor excuses blah blah blah I didn't explain why Ass War's visuals aren't great at all (even though I already gave examples, like the 5 frames showing the chest of the oppai-loli during 9 seconds). Horrendous might be excessive though, sorry. Dragon_Slayer_X said: I like to judge a show after seeing it myself rather than watching a random reviews. And your judgement is mostly wrong in this case, that's why I redirected you to two guys who have a far bigger experience than you (and, than me), have more knowledge, and ofter make good reviews. Dragon_Slayer_X said: If you are trying to defend your BS with a review then that's pathetic I don't. The first one basically says the same as me, but better, and the second explores deeply Ass War's flaws, and really explains why the very first fight was totally random for example. Dragon_Slayer_X said: That's an opinion, not a fact and shitty opinions don't count No, Ass War is generic. That's an universal fact. When a show has the exact same characters as Mahouka, SAO, Inou-Battle, etc. etc. I can legitimately say that Ass War is generic. Notice how I'm not saying here that this fact makes this show good or bad, I'm just pointing it out how typical, uninspired and cheap this anime is (just look at the premise). Now I'll say that all of these facts makes this show awfully predictable (I admit it, I didn't see Saya randomly falling from the sky to land of the MC's shoulders coming, or the whole "omg i died 15415364651 times what a twist wait i've already seen this kind of edgy stuff in tons of other anime"). Unless one doesn't see the problem of watching over and over the same "otaku pandering anime" (reminds me a bit of the endless eight, well) and supporting the poor and lazy job of A-1 Pictures' staff... :) P.S: And I already gave you examples, but you always say "it's just your opinion". Like the tsundere moments at the scene which introduced us the characters, do you really find them believable/credible? The camera filming the girl's boobs and ass, the fact that this show doesn't respect its characters at all don't bother you? And when I talked about how convenient the plot was, you responded "anything happening in a story that you don't like is convenient"... what a convenient answer (and that's obviously not the case). How comes theses battles are allowed (seriously, that's super dangerous and they can litteraly destroy a building with such powers)? Why the police can't interfere with the school? How does it make sense? Do you see how convenient this random rule is? And all of that was pretty predictable, at best not surprising, thanks to the generic characters and generic plot. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:28 AM
| Paraze, the animation for Asterisk is quite good for a TV series (obviously when compared to film budgets it's trash, but that isn't a fair comparison), even if you don't enjoy it. It's very clean and efficient, very little drops in quality, everything has clear and concise lines, the particle affects are great. That being said, I dislike Asterisk's art style because it's too clean. It's washed out and bland imo, but that is just a style I don't enjoy. Dargon_Slayer, you don't have to defend this show like it is your baby. It really isn't that great of a show, and it is definitely generic. Is being generic bad? Not necessarily, being generic is what a lot of people want, otherwise "genres" wouldn't exist. I personally don't enjoy Asterisk, I think Rakudai is better, but realistically neither is a top tier show and both are very generic premises. Mod Edit: Removed backseat modding. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:33 AM
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| Ryuutobi, I already gave example of good fanservice. Few screenshots of Ass War : http://imgur.com/a/Bcebq First pic is basically random soft porn that came out of nowhere, the two next ones simply blow my mind (just how non-immersive it is, these uniforms make no sense), and the last was really speaks for itself (you know, Ass War). Also, Ayato = Kirito, Claudia = Mahouka's president with big boobs, and you can easily find rest of the harem in anime like Inou-Battle, SAO, High School DxD, etc. "It was explained in the first episode by Claudia & supplemented by Julis in the 3rd episode", I know that much, Claudia really did explain all the plot to the MC with magical hologram stuff (great exposition they said), but they can still hurt each others, can't they? Well, none of that matter since an accidental breast groping is more important than an attempted homicide, cf. the first episode. I may have missed something though, I still don't understand why the police can't interfere. Most action series aren't good unfortunately (that doesn't necessarily make them less enjoyable), and I'm not watching this one for pure entertainment sake (and not for trashing fans either). Edit: RealityRush, that's just your opinion indeed, I shouldn't have tried to "shitpost" in this one single post, especially when I knew he would react like this, that was lame of me. Regarding visuals, even for a series, I still don't think it stands out that much, I admit that animation isn't cancerous at all, but it's at best above average. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:34 AM
paraze said: Regarding visuals, even for a series, I still don't think it stands out that much, I admit that animation isn't cancerous at all, but it's at best above average. I explained why it doesn't stand out, but it isn't a quality thing, it is the style they chose to go with which is bland and washed out. Quality wise, again, it is quite solid. No, it isn't the best ever, but for a late-night ecchi TV show, it is good. You can say you don't enjoy it, which I very much don't, but you can't say it's merely average, because it definitely isn't. The only way I can see it being "average" is if your only reference point is like... UBW ;P |
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| Interesting development. Fairly good episode. |
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| That's your opinion. Anyway, that was lazy and cheap exposition. Does Claudia show this to every transferred student? Shouldn't he already know about that stuff? Why all of that would have been presented in this way, if not for explaining everything to the viewer? Did this exposition really feel believable to you? Wasn't it forced at all? Don't you doubt it, for even one second? Can you answer me without any saying shitpost / BS / opinion? Can you answer to that? Can you prove me wrong? Can you prove that the exposition wasn't cheap and lazy? Why didn't you quote me when I was talking about the fanservice? About their uniforms? Can you explain me why they wear such uniforms? Edit: You might be right about the police, indeed they said that they don't like outsiders, but some people want to murder a student, that's serious stuff, so serious I can't understand why the school didn't take appropriate measures (apart from asking another student to take care of her). And I didn't get a proper answer for "none of that matter since an accidental breast groping is more important than an attempted homicide, cf. the first episode", which is typically the kind of stuff I reproach and doesn't make sense to me. |
parazeDec 18, 2015 4:35 AM
Dragon_Slayer_X said: I can defend the show when the other person is shitposting. I am not forcing anyone to like this show or saying that it's the best show in this world or going around spouting My opinion is universal fact. The problem is the other side can only give reasons like "Generic lol", "Doesn't make sense" or "I don't like the show/characters" for hating the show or saying the show is bad and acting like as if those are universal facts that all of mankind should follow without coming up with any reasonable arguments 90% of the time. Certainly, you can do whatever you want. That being said, saying a show is "generic" or "doesn't make sense" or "not liking the characters" are all very valid reasons to dislike a show and very reasonable arguments even if you don't agree with them. Some people don't like "generic", and as I explained before, Asterisk is very generic, most shows are. Again, that isn't a bad thing necessarily, but some people don't enjoy that. Mod Edit: Removed backseat modding. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:39 AM
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: It's not really reasonable argument to saying the show is bad. Nobody is forcing people to like the show and neither am i. It isn't? I think Asertisk is bad. Why is that unreasonable of me to say so? You think it's good. Not unreasonable either. They are opinions, like everything else stated in these forums. There's no right or wrong answer ;P Like when I said Asterisk is "generic". I'm not saying it is an indisputable theory like gravity, I'm just calling it something that most people that viewed it would commonly agree on, so it is a "fact" of sorts. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, maybe there are parts of the show that you think elevate it above normal generic tropes, but that doesn't make me calling it generic "wrong". Majority opinion also doesn't make me "right", but it is simply the commonly understood usage. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post and removed backseat modding. |
ShockedDec 31, 2015 12:42 AM
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| I want more Claudia and her colored eyes! |
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