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Nov 29, 2015 10:45 PM
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And when I say ecchi, I'm not talking about nudity; it's not surprising that people will be nude some of the time. I'm talking about shows like DxD and HOTD. Nowadays, it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi, or have quite a bit of ecchi.
Old as in ~Pre 2005?
Ecchi: Extra skin shown for the sake of extra skin shown. Has little relevance to plot/mood/atmosphere. Or something obviously aimed at being provocative.

Nevermind, peoples. Apparently the majority of you are incapable of giving an "I agree, because xyz," or an "I disagree because lmn," and can only ignore the context and make pointless assumptions.
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Nov 29, 2015 10:52 PM
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a time without shimoneta and monmusu is not a time worth living in

luckily, the Time Traveler Association agrees, this is why this period of time has a large number of time travelers

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Nov 29, 2015 10:56 PM
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Ghost Stories has a lot of jokes about panties and it's from 2000. I think some of them might be dub-only, but there were some panty shots as well.
Nov 29, 2015 11:04 PM
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I think it's more spread out through the entire series now where older anime would dedicate an episode or a scene to it and with newer it's a recurring theme through the whole anime.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:05 PM
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Yeah I've been watching some old stuff lately and it's definitely not nearly as "Hey MC check out my boobs, wanna jump in my butt?" as today's shows are thats for sure. Nothing wrong with those sexual jokes and tropes but do you really need an ENTIRE series that is literally just that... Every single season ....
Nov 29, 2015 11:07 PM
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Majority of modern seasonal anime air 2:00am on local channel and depending on DVD/BD sales
Most of older anime air prime time/day time and air major broadcasting


In other words,Anime as otaku hobby is recent phenomenon.There were only kids/mainstream anime in 1990s on TV
Todays conterpart of older anime are Yokai Watch,One Piece,Haikyuu,Diamond no Ace you don't see nuidity either.

There were no anime like owarimonogatari(2:05-2:35AM) because there were no late-night anime in the past in the first place.

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Nov 29, 2015 11:19 PM
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Chry said:
Yeah I've been watching some old stuff lately and it's definitely not nearly as "Hey MC check out my boobs, wanna jump in my butt?" as today's shows are thats for sure. Nothing wrong with those sexual jokes and tropes but do you really need an ENTIRE series that is literally just that... Every single season ....
The same could be said about any other Anime...

Some users just can't adapt to changes. And "over half of the shows" sounds like an exaggeration. Or give solid proof that it indeed is so. Nevertheless it is what people demand nowadays, what can you do about it?

Edit: Just went over a list of currently airing Anime. Like 1/3-1/4 can be considered ecchi or have a lot of ecchi elements. So saying that it overweighs anything else is just wrong.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:25 PM
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MortalMelancholy said:
And when I say ecchi, I'm not talking about nudity; it's not surprising that people will be nude some of the time. I'm talking about shows like DxD and HOTD. Nowadays, it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi, or have quite a bit of ecchi.
Old as in ~Pre 2005?


From this season, I count 7 out of 63 tagged with ecchi. You must be terrific at math. Btw, just for the record, that's 11.1%.

EDIT: I did a recount and found I'd made a mistake. 6 out of 63 are tagged with ecchi. That's 9.5%.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:28 PM
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From this season, I count 7 out of 63 tagged with ecchi. You must be terrific at math. Btw, just for the record, that's 11.1%.
Excluding kids anime and including shows not tagged ecchi but have elements and you come to maybe 25%-30%. Too lazy to math. :P
Showing it holds no significance.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:31 PM

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Domi said:
yhunata said:
From this season, I count 7 out of 63 tagged with ecchi. You must be terrific at math. Btw, just for the record, that's 11.1%.
Excluding kids anime and including shows not tagged ecchi but have elements and you come to maybe 25%-30%. Too lazy to math. :P
Showing it holds no significance.


Hold on, why are you excluding kids anime? Are they not anime from now as well?
Nov 29, 2015 11:32 PM

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yhunata said:
Domi said:
Excluding kids anime and including shows not tagged ecchi but have elements and you come to maybe 25%-30%. Too lazy to math. :P
Showing it holds no significance.

Hold on, why are you excluding kids anime? Are they not anime from now as well?
No, thats not what I ment. Just that kids Anime are automatically falling out of the criteria for possibly having ecchi elements for obvious reasons.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:35 PM

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Domi said:
yhunata said:

Hold on, why are you excluding kids anime? Are they not anime from now as well?
No, thats not what I ment. Just that kids Anime are automatically falling out of the criteria for possibly having ecchi elements for obvious reasons.


Oh, might as well just take out all the non-ecchi anime as well. After all, they don't have those elements either, right? Either take them all or take none.
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yhunata said:
MortalMelancholy said:
And when I say ecchi, I'm not talking about nudity; it's not surprising that people will be nude some of the time. I'm talking about shows like DxD and HOTD. Nowadays, it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi, or have quite a bit of ecchi.
Old as in ~Pre 2005?


From this season, I count 7 out of 63 tagged with ecchi. You must be terrific at math. Btw, just for the record, that's 11.1%.

EDIT: I did a recount and found I'd made a mistake. 6 out of 63 are tagged with ecchi. That's 9.5%.

Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.
You're so salty lol
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MortalMelancholy said:
yhunata said:


From this season, I count 7 out of 63 tagged with ecchi. You must be terrific at math. Btw, just for the record, that's 11.1%.

EDIT: I did a recount and found I'd made a mistake. 6 out of 63 are tagged with ecchi. That's 9.5%.

Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.


Prove it.
Nov 29, 2015 11:37 PM

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yhunata said:
Domi said:
No, thats not what I ment. Just that kids Anime are automatically falling out of the criteria for possibly having ecchi elements for obvious reasons.


Oh, might as well just take out all the non-ecchi anime as well. After all, they don't have those elements either, right? Either take them all or take none.
I don't know why you get so upset about it, because it just was to show that even when you only count shows targeted at a mature audience the rate of ecchi is still really low. I didn't intend to diss any kids Anime.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:40 PM

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Domi said:
I don't know why you get so upset about it, because it just was to show that even when you only count shows targeted at a mature audience the rate of ecchi is still really low. I didn't intend to diss any kids Anime.


I'm not upset. I'm merely stating that kids anime also counts towards anime premiering this season.
Nov 29, 2015 11:41 PM

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yhunata said:
MortalMelancholy said:

Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.


Prove it.

I'd have to watch them though, and I don't have that much time.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:41 PM
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Theres nothing wrong with having fan service in non ecchis,

Complaining about ecchi in ecchi is just complaining about the genre in general. People who watch ecchi like to see ecchi. If you dont, then dont watch.
Nov 29, 2015 11:41 PM
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Anime*

Also define "ecchi"
Nov 29, 2015 11:41 PM

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I mean older anime didn't have censoring, and a fair amount weren't afraid of nudity. But yes you're pointing out the obvious by saying there is more ecchi anime now.
Brace yourself.

Soon as LotGH 2017 comes out. The anime community is going to become so cancerous you will need to take cover and hide.
Nov 29, 2015 11:42 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
I'd have to watch them though, and I don't have that much time.


So how can you say:
MortalMelancholy said:
Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.

A word of advice; next time you make a thread, make sure you have facts to back you up and don't just spout bullshit.
Nov 29, 2015 11:44 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
I'd have to watch them though, and I don't have that much time.
Like the people who call shit on Anime before they air, that is not how you form an opinion. Just assumptions or prejudices without solid proof.
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yhunata said:
MortalMelancholy said:
I'd have to watch them though, and I don't have that much time.


So how can you say:
MortalMelancholy said:
Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.

A word of advice; next time you make a thread, make sure you have facts to back you up and don't just spout bullshit.

I can't be bothered to prove a point for free. If I got something out of it, it'd be pretty easy to find an ecchi scene in the majority of them. You can't prove the contrary either.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:46 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
I can't be bothered to prove a point for free. If I got something out of it, it'd be pretty easy to find an ecchi scene in the majority of them. You can't prove the contrary either.


Except I did. I linked you to a page which shows everything airing this season and even counted out the amount tagged as ecchi. Since I don't watch everything, that's the most I could do with the resources at hand. You, on the hand, couldn't even be bothered to do that much when, as the person making the claim, the burden of proof lies on you.
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MortalMelancholy said:
I can't be bothered to prove a point for free. If I got something out of it, it'd be pretty easy to find an ecchi scene in the majority of them. You can't prove the contrary either.
You first talk about "quite a bit of ecchi" and now only about "an ecchi scene"? If that it what defines it for you then probably 99% of all Anime are ecchi.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:48 PM

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Domi said:
MortalMelancholy said:
I can't be bothered to prove a point for free. If I got something out of it, it'd be pretty easy to find an ecchi scene in the majority of them. You can't prove the contrary either.
You first talk about "quite a bit of ecchi" and now only about "an ecchi scene"? If that it what defines it for you then probably 99% of all Anime are ecchi.

If there's one, there's probably more to follow.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:49 PM

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Stop while you still can, mate.
Nov 29, 2015 11:52 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
Domi said:
You first talk about "quite a bit of ecchi" and now only about "an ecchi scene"? If that it what defines it for you then probably 99% of all Anime are ecchi.

If there's one, there's probably more to follow.
Then you need to define when an Anime does qualify as "Ecchi related". I doubt that 3-4 scenes in a 24 episode series would fall into that criteria.
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yhunata said:
Stop while you still can, mate.

Look guy, I said "I feel like there's more ecchi nowadays." If you want me to prove my opinion, you prove whatever yours happens to be.
Me: "it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi" That's indeed what it feels like.
Me in your head: "By my statistical analysis, approximately 51% of anime shows are ecchi category."
Troll someone else, thanks.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:54 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
yhunata said:
Stop while you still can, mate.

Look guy, I said "I feel like there's more ecchi nowadays." If you want me to prove my opinion, you prove whatever yours happens to be.
Me: "it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi" That's indeed what it feels like.
Me in your head: "By my statistical analysis, approximately 51% of anime shows are ecchi category."
Troll someone else, thanks.


And here comes the insults, albeit tamer than usual. Me telling you to prove your claim isn't me being a troll.
Nov 29, 2015 11:54 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
Me: "it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi" That's indeed what it feels like..
There lies the problem actually. Because you can't say that when you aren't watching a good amount of shows.
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Nov 29, 2015 11:56 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.


NSFW?


You mean the momentary ecchi scenes, though the anime doesn't really center on ecchi?
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MortalMelancholy said:
yhunata said:
Stop while you still can, mate.

Look guy, I said "I feel like there's more ecchi nowadays." If you want me to prove my opinion, you prove whatever yours happens to be.
Me: "it's like over half the shows currently airing are ecchi" That's indeed what it feels like.
Me in your head: "By my statistical analysis, approximately 51% of anime shows are ecchi category."
Troll someone else, thanks.

In that case let me tell you the answer: You're wrong.
Nov 29, 2015 11:58 PM

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yomachi said:
MortalMelancholy said:
Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.


NSFW?


You mean the momentary ecchi scenes, though the anime doesn't really center on ecchi?


I do consider that ecchi, yes.

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In that case let me tell you the answer: You're wrong.

Thanks for that proven and well thought out answer.
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yomachi said:
MortalMelancholy said:
Most of the ones that aren't tagged with ecchi still have ecchi.


NSFW?


You mean the momentary ecchi scenes, though the anime doesn't really center on ecchi?

Whenever i watch stuff like this I have little feeling towards them, but I could just imagine people on this forum screaming in their heads at this stuff, and Im just like wow theres no need to get your panties in a bunch over stuff like this.

I mean i guess i you had some kind of repulsion against the female body, I could understand your peoples need to complain. Like Id probably complain if anime had gay fanservice in every episode. (actually, I probably wouldnt even then, unless it was hardcore level)
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But OPM doesn't have ecchi so all is well.

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In that case let me tell you the answer: You're wrong.

Thanks for that proven and well thought out answer.

No problem, I tried to adjust to your reasoning.
Nov 30, 2015 2:31 AM

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Obvious you don't know about the grandfather of all ecchi anime :P


http://myanimelist.net/anime/3391/Maicching_Machiko_Sensei?q=Miss%20Ma
Nov 30, 2015 2:33 AM
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idk, the pre 2000 year ecchi titles were at least actually quality ecchi unlike this new shit

though yes, there were less of them
Nov 30, 2015 2:41 AM

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idk, the pre 2000 year ecchi titles were at least actually quality ecchi unlike this new shit

Name one.

And have you seen the Monogatari seasons, NGNL, Prison School?

Plenty of quality ecchi right there.
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dfsafsaf said:
idk, the pre 2000 year ecchi titles were at least actually quality ecchi unlike this new shit

Name one.

And have you seen the Monogatari seasons, NGNL, Prison School?

Plenty of quality ecchi right there.


Golden Boy

(not saying I agree with OP or anything)
Nov 30, 2015 3:03 AM

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That's why retro is generally better than modern shows. A lot less focus on ecchi moments and when there is it's mostly a moderate, tasteful amount, not over the top fanservice every other minute.
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Seems like you're confusing ecchi with fanservice.

Ecchi anime are still quite rare. A lot of anime have fanservice in them; few anime have ecchi scenes like Testament or Highschool Dxd.
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There is less anime in as a whole back then, so it's a pointless comparison. And the percentage of new anime people watched are more than the old anime they watched, as you naturally would only watch the praise and highly rated old anime.

And even then the ecchi anime percentage is not that high as proven above. It's seems unreasonable to count even anime that have 1 or 2 ecchi scene. Where is the arbitrarily line drawn?
Nov 30, 2015 4:37 AM

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Well, OP took the "I'm right and you're just ignorant" path judging by the modified first post. Sigh.
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Nov 30, 2015 6:42 AM

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Go Nagai, son.
one of go nagai manga is WSJ (shounen) title and it adapted as hentai. kids those days pretty brutal compare to kids this days. kids these days are soo pussy.

http://myanimelist.net/manga/12808/Harenchi_Gakuen
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That's why retro is generally better than modern shows. A lot less focus on ecchi moments and when there is it's mostly a moderate, tasteful amount, not over the top fanservice every other minute.

I take it you never watched Najica Blitz Tactics (2001) unless that isn't "retro" enough.
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I'm not going to take the time to actually count how many "ecchi" shows existed before 2000, but in my experience yes, you are right OP.

The stuff I watched in the 90s, and possibly even early 2000s, definitely had less pandering than the stuff I am recommended these days.

Again, that is not evidence of anything, it's just my personal experience.
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