| according to a good majority of mal users that is. But why is that? Can anyone actually give 3 good reasons why feminism affects you on a personal level in a negative way? down with meninists |
| less abot addressing issues with ladies more abot having absolute supremacy over society |
| i'm ok with it until it becomes a debate about armpit hair |
Lord_Khan said: You already know the answer. but i don't think you have any :^) |
| It's not about equality anymore. It's about stupid things like (free the nipple etc) It's like women want to be men without actually bieng a man |
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| They don't have any. They are afraid of equality because they know deep inside that they can not stand up for women. I'm not sure about feminism, but I do think that if everything has been equal since forever, we would be reading way more female names ^^ |
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mochabearkawaii said: It's not about equality anymore. It's about stupid things like (free the nipple etc) It's like women want to be men without actually bieng a man ok but how does that affect you in a negative way smh not one person has answered the question yet, except for this guy: SimplyHuman said: sutorii said: according to a good majority of mal users that is. But why is that? Can anyone actually give 3 good reasons why feminism affects you on a personal level in a negative way? down with meninists They imply that all males are rapists. I'm not a rapist. They imply that they fight for equal rights, yet what's the purpose of egalitarians? Many people confuse the political arm of feminism with the principles of feminism that existed forever ago, and not that first came in the 1960's which i can't take seriously because condemnation of rape culture =/= implying all guys are rapists. it's pointing fault to the education system and media instead. |
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| Vishnu was trying to persuade the prince to do his duty, so to impress him he took on his multi armed form and said now I become death, the destroyer of worlds. |
| Most guys on MAL can't get a girlfriend, so they claim it's the feminist's fault or somhething |
sutorii said: mochabearkawaii said: It's not about equality anymore. It's about stupid things like (free the nipple etc) It's like women want to be men without actually bieng a man ok but how does that affect you in a negative way smh not one person has answered the question yet, except for this guy: It makes girls think no one looks at them sexually and they are delusional if they think it won't attract more attention and "rApe culture" by doing it. If you don't wanna be seen as an object why throw your tits around the place? |
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| 1. They encourage the false belief that if you're not pro Feminist you're a misogynist despite fully supporting equality. 2. There currently is a push by Feminists to censor the internet in the UN and possibly the US. 3. They do great damage to real equality by making equality for females seem like a joke for what petty things they focus on and also making males at a disadvantage at times. Can you name three ways it positively effects you on a personal level? You're not allowed to use second or first wave. Thats cheating. |
| They spread hate and tyranny like the KKK, but there are worse things like SJT civil wars where they ruin each others lives just because of one disagreement. Third wave feminism is a hate group and should be treated like the KKK, Neo Nazis, and others. |
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Cottonrabbit said: Lol I didn't say or imply any of those 3 thibgsmochabearkawaii said: It makes girls think no one looks at them sexually and they are delusional if they think it won't attract more attention and "rApe culture" by doing it. If you don't wanna be seen as an object why throw your tits around the place? Let me get this straight; you think because a girl shows some boob, she: - Has less value than a human being - Incites "natural" male sexual violence - Was at least partly responsible for the rape occuring I can see why you would feel oppressed and threatened by feminism. |
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SimplyHuman said: Because nobody should be expecting to get raped in the first place.Cottonrabbit said: - Was at least partly responsible for the rape occuring I can see why you would feel oppressed and threatened by feminism. Are you serious? If she knew that there would be a "natural" male sexual violence, why would she do it in the first place? |
| 1.) They don't help anybody 2.) They are annoying 3.) Damaging relationships between men and women with rape propaganda. |
SimplyHuman said: Rapists shouldn't exist in the first place.mayukachan said: Because nobody should be expecting to get raped in the first place. By whom? Rapists? Are you implying that rapists have feelings, and that they feel bad about themselves when they rape? You can wear whatever you want. The fact that many people are scared to get attacked for what they wear is what's wrong with society. |
| Trying to manipulate any problem into one being caused by the patriarchy. I'm going to go off on a media specific tangent here, I promise I'm going somewhere. Black Widow and Furiosa. These are garbage characters. Yet the third wave feminists (and I know quite a few unfortunately) laud them as being a godsend for gender equality. They aren't treated as individuals with realistic personalities, they're simply "one of the guys" which is the core problem with third wave feminism. We get Taiga beating up Ryuuji for comedic effect. Do I find it offensive? No, it's just stupid, more bad "feminism" tainting the way we see both genders. They want to see females treated as guys, badasses with no meaningful personality, just sass and comedic violence. This is just as sexist as what they thing they're fighting against. They fail to acknowledge that there are very important physiological and psychological differences between men and women, that your gender WILL change how people see you. It doesn't mean they have to treat you like a sex doll, but it will have an influence. You want us to be completely equal by your definition? Fine, if you hit me then I'll hit you, and I guarantee you my punch is going to cause a lot of fucking damage because I was born as the stronger gender. But stronger =/= better, which is why third wave feminists insisting that women be treated as males (and not simply as human beings) is stupid. Anything negative said to a women is automatically sexist while anything negative a women says to a man is "empowering", textbook sexism right here. Characters with no personality are feminist because they can beat people up, specifically males, I thought gender based violence was something "feminists" were against. sutorii said: which i can't take seriously because condemnation of rape culture =/= implying all guys are rapists. it's pointing fault to the education system and media instead. How can you say some fault doesn't lie with the educational system and media? Dress codes are targeted at females for dressing to scantily, implying a women's dress is more important than her education. Media always portrays male sexuality as the butt of a joke while female sexuality is 'hot'. Yes, media is a reflection of our culture, so changing people's mentalities towards gender will change media, but media has a reverse effect as well, it's not a one way street. And yes it does imply all men are rapists, that's where shit like "Yes, all women" comes from. It's turning the entire male sex into the enemy. If you want to foster equality you can't create this 'Us vs them' mentality. We have men vs. women, white knights vs. internet trolls. Third wave feminism is all about using group psychology to make people mad at each other. That's how it negatively effects me. It's not a profound negative effect obviously, most of the time it's just kind of annoying, and the negative effects women face due to sexism are far more severe, but trying to reverse gender dynamics is not the solution. EDIT: But Traed said it better, and in fewer words. They make real gender equality look like a joke. I want to see good female characters, whether they're sexy or not. So it negatively effects my media consumption as well. |
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mochabearkawaii said: sutorii said: ok but how does that affect you in a negative way smh not one person has answered the question yet, except for this guy: It makes girls think no one looks at them sexually and they are delusional if they think it won't attract more attention and "rApe culture" by doing it. If you don't wanna be seen as an object why throw your tits around the place? so exactly what is wrong with wearing provocative things? does that limit their ability to think or feel like anyone else? and that justifiably invites sexual assault? i think we all have the ability to judge between an inanimate object and a human being. traed said: 1. They encourage the false belief that if you're not pro Feminist you're a misogynist despite fully supporting equality. 2. There currently is a push by Feminists to censor the internet in the UN and possibly the US. 3. They do great damage to real equality by making equality for females seem like a joke for what petty things they focus on and also making males at a disadvantage at times. Can you name three ways it positively effects you on a personal level? You're not allowed to use second or first wave. Thats cheating. 1. the majority of insults out there are always sexual slurs of women (pussy/cunt/bitch/son of a bitch/mother fucker/list goes on). 2. fighting the mentality that girls always deserve rape/asked for it. yet a good majority of victims were not asking for it, nor were they wearing anything provocatively. rape happens bc the rapist raped. 3. sexual equality in that women won't be seen as 'used goods' or dirty if they've had sexual experience before |
| down with meninists forever |
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merryfistmas said: Trying to manipulate any problem into one being caused by the patriarchy. I'm going to go off on a media specific tangent here, I promise I'm going somewhere. Black Widow and Furiosa. These are garbage characters. Yet the third wave feminists (and I know quite a few unfortunately) laud them as being a godsend for gender equality. They aren't treated as individuals with realistic personalities, they're simply "one of the guys" which is the core problem with third wave feminism. We get Taiga beating up Ryuuji for comedic effect. Do I find it offensive? No, it's just stupid, more bad "feminism" tainting the way we see both genders. They want to see females treated as guys, badasses with no meaningful personality, just sass and comedic violence. This is just as sexist as what they thing they're fighting against. They fail to acknowledge that there are very important physiological and psychological differences between men and women, that your gender WILL change how people see you. It doesn't mean they have to treat you like a sex doll, but it will have an influence. You want us to be completely equal by your definition? Fine, if you hit me then I'll hit you, and I guarantee you my punch is going to cause a lot of fucking damage because I was born as the stronger gender. But stronger =/= better, which is why third wave feminists insisting that women be treated as males (and not simply as human beings) is stupid. Anything negative said to a women is automatically sexist while anything negative a women says to a man is "empowering", textbook sexism right here. Characters with no personality are feminist because they can beat people up, specifically males, I thought gender based violence was something "feminists" were against. sutorii said: which i can't take seriously because condemnation of rape culture =/= implying all guys are rapists. it's pointing fault to the education system and media instead. How can you say some fault doesn't lie with the educational system and media? Dress codes are targeted at females for dressing to scantily, implying a women's dress is more important than her education. Media always portrays male sexuality as the butt of a joke while female sexuality is 'hot'. Yes, media is a reflection of our culture, so changing people's mentalities towards gender will change media, but media has a reverse effect as well, it's not a one way street. And yes it does imply all men are rapists, that's where shit like "Yes, all women" comes from. It's turning the entire male sex into the enemy. If you want to foster equality you can't create this 'Us vs them' mentality. We have men vs. women, white knights vs. internet trolls. Third wave feminism is all about using group psychology to make people mad at each other. That's how it negatively effects me. It's not a profound negative effect obviously, most of the time it's just kind of annoying, and the negative effects women face due to sexism are far more severe, but trying to reverse gender dynamics is not the solution. you mis-read that, i meant the fault DOES lie in the education system and media, with "it" being rape culture. |
| actual feminism doesn't effect males in anyway that could be seen as negative. |
 Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
SimplyHuman said: Except cliffs aren't human. Don't go outside unless you want to get pick pocked or murdered by people randomly. Yeah, your fault for going outside. Smh.mayukachan said: Rapists shouldn't exist in the first place. You can wear whatever you want. The fact that many people are scared to get attacked for what they wear is what's wrong with society. Rapists will still rape. No matter what you say to them, teaching them not to rape? That's laughable. Okay, let them what they want to wear, but they should be responsible to what happens to them when they KNOW what's going to happen if they do it. It's not gravity's fault when I fall from a cliff and die, it's my fault for walking on the edge of the cliff. You're blaming females for getting raped because of what they wear. Oh no, I wore a shirt that showed my arms. Raped. It's all my fault. |
Yomiyuki said: actual feminism doesn't effect males in anyway that could be seen as negative. bless all these peeps take the extreme form of "feminism" and use that to suppress what the movement is actually about. |
SimplyHuman said: the victim should be responsible for wearing clothes they want to wear? what kind of logic...mayukachan said: Rapists shouldn't exist in the first place. You can wear whatever you want. The fact that many people are scared to get attacked for what they wear is what's wrong with society. Rapists will still rape. No matter what you say to them, teaching them not to rape? That's laughable. Okay, let them what they want to wear, but they should be responsible to what happens to them when they KNOW what's going to happen if they do it. It's not gravity's fault when I fall from a cliff and die, it's my fault for walking on the edge of the cliff. |
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TV said: MAL male logic.what kind of logic... |
TV said: SimplyHuman said: the victim should be responsible for wearing clothes they want to wear? what kind of logic...Rapists will still rape. No matter what you say to them, teaching them not to rape? That's laughable. Okay, let them what they want to wear, but they should be responsible to what happens to them when they KNOW what's going to happen if they do it. It's not gravity's fault when I fall from a cliff and die, it's my fault for walking on the edge of the cliff. in court like "the piece of fabric did it. that piece of evil fabric made me rape" |
mayukachan said: TV said: MAL male logic.what kind of logic... you're sexist |
PoeticJustice said: The facts don't lie :^)mayukachan said: MAL male logic. you're sexist  |
sutorii said: I never said it limits anything or justifies anything. It's knowing better. If you go into a situation doing something you better be prepared for the possible consequences. Wearing provacativr things means it's for attention. That attention may be good if u get it from the people you want it from but it dosent stop you from getting attention from unpredictable creepsmochabearkawaii said: It makes girls think no one looks at them sexually and they are delusional if they think it won't attract more attention and "rApe culture" by doing it. If you don't wanna be seen as an object why throw your tits around the place? so exactly what is wrong with wearing provocative things? does that limit their ability to think or feel like anyone else? and that justifiably invites sexual assault? i think we all have the ability to judge between an inanimate object and a human being. traed said: 1. They encourage the false belief that if you're not pro Feminist you're a misogynist despite fully supporting equality. 2. There currently is a push by Feminists to censor the internet in the UN and possibly the US. 3. They do great damage to real equality by making equality for females seem like a joke for what petty things they focus on and also making males at a disadvantage at times. Can you name three ways it positively effects you on a personal level? You're not allowed to use second or first wave. Thats cheating. 1. the majority of insults out there are always sexual slurs of women (pussy/cunt/bitch/son of a bitch/mother fucker/list goes on). 2. fighting the mentality that girls always deserve rape/asked for it. yet a good majority of victims were not asking for it, nor were they wearing anything provocatively. rape happens bc the rapist raped. 3. sexual equality in that women won't be seen as 'used goods' or dirty if they've had sexual experience before |
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| it's sad that we live in a world where we should be "prepared" for rape |
cause said: can u not* |
sutorii said: you mis-read that, i meant the fault DOES lie in the education system and media, with "it" being rape culture. Oh, okay. So to that I say third wave feminism works against gender equality in it's portrayal of women in media, which I already said. Anyway, you didn't respond to anything else I said and your counterarguments to traed aren't counter arguments at all, they have nothing to do with their points. |
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