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Nov 21, 2015 5:15 PM
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I don't blame them, I would never fight for the tyrant Abe, he's done little good and a lot of harm, he's going to the lead the country to destruction.



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Nov 21, 2015 5:16 PM
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Hoppy said:
I don't blame them, I would never fight for the tyrant Abe, he's going to the lead the country to destruction.



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give it 60 more year of KLP rule and that fivue will jump
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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Nov 21, 2015 5:17 PM
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well
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Nov 21, 2015 5:18 PM
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I would have expected a The U.S to be higher :0 maybe we need another 9/11

O/T that is not good what if aliens invade yo? they gonna throw their body pillows at em?
Nov 21, 2015 5:41 PM
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71 % in China though
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Nov 21, 2015 5:45 PM
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Not sure I consider 62k people a valid sample of 7+ billion.
Nov 21, 2015 5:51 PM
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LMAO! Is for real?
Nov 21, 2015 5:55 PM
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I wonder if Japan not being allowed to have any offensive military forces under the postwar constitution has any relation.
Nov 21, 2015 5:59 PM
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put aside cultural difference,it seems people in top ranked countries are just live in politically unstable situation than bottom ranked countries
Nov 21, 2015 6:03 PM

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All the places with high % must be awful to live in for the average guy.
Better to fight then to live in a 3rd world place.
Nov 21, 2015 7:32 PM

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Sweden 55% not bad.

Nov 21, 2015 7:39 PM

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75% india is a fat number
Nov 21, 2015 7:45 PM

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ichii_1 said:
All the places with high % must be awful to live in for the average guy.
Better to fight then to live in a 3rd world place.

Or they love their country?
Nov 21, 2015 8:03 PM

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Japan, super neutered.
Nov 21, 2015 8:15 PM

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lol that will be different if faggot Communist chinks attack
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Nov 21, 2015 8:22 PM

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After what happened last week Im willing to bet France is now way higher than 29%
Nov 21, 2015 9:07 PM

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Wonder how many MAL users are willing to fight for their waifus....
#CHEXIT
Nov 21, 2015 9:18 PM

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I just got robbed at gunpoint today. Part of me wants to shoot the bastard. Part of me wants to just live my life.

People just want to live their lives, they don't want to fight people, especially if they have no personal reason to fight.
Nov 21, 2015 9:58 PM

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What it really boils down to:

Safe, modern, prosperous westernized countries without direct threats to themselves tend to have people less willing to fight for them. They see war as conducted by their country as an (often immoral and/or unnecessary) interjection into conflicts in other nations. Many such people have trouble even contemplating how such a need could arise. The only major exception is Sweden, which mainly benefits from its historical independent streak and its form of neutrality, which is best summed up as "I don't want to fight you, but if I have to, I'll make regret it."

The US could be higher, but remember that vast swaths of the population are practically taught to hate their country and accept anything bad that happens to it as just punishment for historical misdeeds. They also, again, think more of getting sent to fight other peoples' wars overseas rather than defending their own country from attack, which hasn't really been done in over a century, and not against a state aggressor since the 19th Century.

Of the top bracket, on the other hand, only Fiji lacks a major external enemy with which they've fought a war recently, or had a long-running conflict with a military dimension.
Nov 21, 2015 10:03 PM

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RedArmyShogun said:
Not sure I consider 62k people a valid sample of 7+ billion.


Every poll ever made must be wrong to you then.
They all use extrapolation. It's the honesty of the margin of error that tells a poll's accuracy.
Nov 21, 2015 10:31 PM

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Well Japan has been pretty pacifist after World War II. It's not a bad idea really. Seems like most of the populace agrees

Nov 21, 2015 10:32 PM
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They're too busy fighting defenceless whales, why fight people.
Nov 21, 2015 10:36 PM
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Why the fuck is Kenya there but not New Zealand? Shit chart, unreliable.
Because they're apart of Australia's Decoy Unit any ways.
Nov 21, 2015 10:39 PM
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Griffith said:
They're too busy fighting defenceless whales, why fight people.


Funniest comment I've seen today.
Nov 21, 2015 10:39 PM

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DateYutaka said:


give it 60 more year of KLP rule and that fivue will jump


By then there will be massive decrease in population, LDP would probably have no choice but to hire mercenaries. I don't even know how I understood your grammar this disastrous.

I can only see that poll result as a good outcome. I would hate to see Japan sacrificing their citizens for no good reason other than trying to protect their old image. 美しい日本は今の現代には無意味であり、右翼会員も多分全員おやじ,古い時代の考え方しかに生きているろくでもないくず達だろ。
No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me
Like I care at all
But it was so loud
And you sure could yell
You took a stand on every little thing
And it was so loud
Nov 22, 2015 12:38 AM

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Time to invade Japan!

Dibs on all the hot Azn girls!
Nov 22, 2015 1:08 AM

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Hoppy said:
I don't blame them, I would never fight for the tyrant Abe, he's done little good and a lot of harm, he's going to the lead the country to destruction.



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How was this calculated? I don't remember filling in a form.

Or did they assume that everyone who did national service (which is pretty much mandatory) would be willing to fight?
Nov 22, 2015 1:55 AM

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Switzerland more willing than both France and the UK?
Sweden more willing than the USA? What a Poll.
Nov 22, 2015 2:03 AM

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I don't remember taking a poll for this statistic.
Nov 22, 2015 3:55 AM

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RedArmyShogun said:
Not sure I consider 62k people a valid sample of 7+ billion.


i dont know man, arent all sample size in statistics studies always small anyway?
Nov 22, 2015 4:48 AM

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Italy is quite low...
I'm pretty sure that it can be even higher considering how much italians care about their culture.
Nov 22, 2015 5:05 AM

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It must be 100% in North Korea.
Nov 22, 2015 5:06 AM
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JeanQuebecois said:
After what happened last week Im willing to bet France is now way higher than 29%


You might be right, several French websites report a massive spike in applications to join the army.
Nov 22, 2015 5:06 AM

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SetsukoHara said:
It must be 100% in North Korea.

not unless you count those in forced labor
Nov 22, 2015 5:28 AM

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probably dont wanna die/get shot at understandable
SWFC

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Nov 22, 2015 5:34 AM

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realized my country is really up there (+70%)
people here sure love their oppression
Nov 22, 2015 7:15 AM
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Syndromic said:
DateYutaka said:


give it 60 more year of KLP rule and that fivue will jump


By then there will be massive decrease in population, LDP would probably have no choice but to hire mercenaries. I don't even know how I understood your grammar this disastrous.

I can only see that poll result as a good outcome. I would hate to see Japan sacrificing their citizens for no good reason other than trying to protect their old image. 美しい日本は今の現代には無意味であり、右翼会員も多分全員おやじ,古い時代の考え方しかに生きているろくでもないくず達だろ。



sorry typo i ment 6 years
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Nov 22, 2015 7:23 AM

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Orvieto said:
RedArmyShogun said:
Not sure I consider 62k people a valid sample of 7+ billion.


Every poll ever made must be wrong to you then.
They all use extrapolation. It's the honesty of the margin of error that tells a poll's accuracy.


Pretty much. Unless they can ask 70 to 700 million people world wide, the later being fairly impossible, its easy to "cook" poll results how you want.

For Example Japan, did they spread the questions out among 100 people across the country, or only in say, Tokyo?

If you were to ask most Westerns Questions in regards to leftist ideas, you would ask the Urban areas if you want to show population have support, the Rural if against.

In Japan a good percentage of Recruits in the JSDF are as with most countries, historically from the Countryside or improvished areas. Struggle gives a sense of unity which is likely why India is so high on the list, though I question if all that many would fight for India given the huge number of cultures and diverse regions and local autonomy.


So it begs the question of where the questions were asked, as such a question with a limited sampling could easily be "fixed" for whatever result you want.

This poll was lazy as shit, they couldn't even be assed to ask 100 people per country, In fact with the math and a topic this simple its barely even 60 per country.


Hell I can do the same poll, just call up old people in, say the US State of Alabama and say 100% of Americans would like to fight for America and hate minorities. Now isn't it silly to judge a nation of 300 million, off the votes of 100 people, more so when I can fix the results?
Nov 22, 2015 7:36 AM

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RedArmyShogun said:
Orvieto said:


Every poll ever made must be wrong to you then.
They all use extrapolation. It's the honesty of the margin of error that tells a poll's accuracy.


Pretty much. Unless they can ask 70 to 700 million people world wide, the later being fairly impossible, its easy to "cook" poll results how you want.

For Example Japan, did they spread the questions out among 100 people across the country, or only in say, Tokyo?

If you were to ask most Westerns Questions in regards to leftist ideas, you would ask the Urban areas if you want to show population have support, the Rural if against.

In Japan a good percentage of Recruits in the JSDF are as with most countries, historically from the Countryside or improvished areas. Struggle gives a sense of unity which is likely why India is so high on the list, though I question if all that many would fight for India given the huge number of cultures and diverse regions and local autonomy.


So it begs the question of where the questions were asked, as such a question with a limited sampling could easily be "fixed" for whatever result you want.

This poll was lazy as shit, they couldn't even be assed to ask 100 people per country, In fact with the math and a topic this simple its barely even 60 per country.


Hell I can do the same poll, just call up old people in, say the US State of Alabama and say 100% of Americans would like to fight for America and hate minorities. Now isn't it silly to judge a nation of 300 million, off the votes of 100 people, more so when I can fix the results?
It's nearly 1000 per country, not 100. And it's done with Gallup methodology. It's not perfect, but that's a pretty high bar when it comes to polling. You'd be on much better ground if you questioned the wording, which is far more important, and is actually the more difficult issue. The way people think and react can vary greatly from country to country to the same wording, yet a slightly different wording ends up instead with both having almost the same result.

This is, for example, why no valid poll of Palestinians asks them about "terrorism" using that word - they have a funny notion of what terrorism is there. Instead, they have to identify specific incidents to ensure that the question getting asked is the actual one getting answered.
Nov 22, 2015 7:45 AM

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I'm not sure how that could be a problem unless the question was asked in a poor manner, say for Japan with "Would you support military actions of your country?"

Though it should be simple and a universal "Would you fight for your country in its momment of need?" Or some such. Regardless I'm just skeptical that the numbers are that way or still up to date given current events. Surely France is higher now. Then again maybe its lower.

I just generally am not sure the numbers are that low. Though I do find it intersting that they didn't ask all countries, though that may be beyond their means.

Though a mute point. Historically most people never liked going to war, and ministers don't care what they think when the call up is sent for consccripts.
Nov 22, 2015 7:55 AM

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Tbh I can hardly call this legit. There is a strict difference between metropolitan regions where there are more young people and the countryside which is usually full of older (and old fashioned) people. The countryside would probably be more willing to fight for their country than the population of big cities.
Nov 22, 2015 7:57 AM

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They're too busy watching anime and shit.
Nov 22, 2015 8:38 AM

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im surprised canada is at 30% lol probably didnt even survey the immigrants

also p sure hongkong isnt a country
Nov 22, 2015 8:51 AM

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I'm surprised Belgium got even 19% I like my country, but I'd never fight for it.
Nov 22, 2015 10:13 AM

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Even if they want they can't fight, Japan is just a bunch of soft ass mofos left right now.

Morocco representing thats how it is, surprised nobody has called them terrorists by now knowing how MAL is about Muslim countries and all.
Nov 22, 2015 10:36 AM

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That would be the case until trouble lands at your doorstep of course.
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Nov 22, 2015 10:38 AM

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japan dont need to fight.. im sure tons of weebs will go to war to protect their waifus
Nov 22, 2015 10:43 AM
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What's with the 94% figure for Morocco? Is it a dictatorship?
Nov 22, 2015 10:56 AM

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Brazil 48%? No never '-' I think a 3% would be correct
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Lel they don't even care anymore.
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