Ugly animation, dull politics, illogical sci-fi, out-dated Sun Tzu's stratagem, boring, and overall it's trying too hard to look smart. Why the heck it has 9.10 average rating on MAL seriously?
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illivinni said: Ugly animation, dull politics, illogical sci-fi, out-dated Sun Tzu's stratagem, boring, and overall it's trying too hard to look smart. Why the heck it has 9.10 average rating on MAL seriously?
its good
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"
When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Ratohnhaketon said: Fujoshi inflated the score because of the boys love -
i was fan of it before the anime exiasted the novel[ and no ots nota light novel] is one of my fave book of all time
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"
When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Yep. I dropped it at 20 episodes because it's so bad. Playing chess in space by yourself would be more entertaining.
Nah but I actually think it's extremely good even though I didn't make it 1/5 of the way through. I just couldn't follow it anymore. Yang Wenli is also one hell of a character.
Character and world building is better than most anime
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"
When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,
tokiyashiro said:
Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH
Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance
UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.
There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.
Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.
Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.
I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.
Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.
TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night
Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.
mayukachan said: i can't tell if this is serious ^
if you think fate is better than LOGH, i might as well not watch LOGH because i hate fate
Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus
The hype is mostly there because of homosexuality activists, since like, you'd have to be gay to appreciate the show. The women are treated like less than dirt, take Reinhard's sister for example, a symbol of Venus-like female beauty tarnished by being a plaything for old men. Or Jessica, a capable anti-war activist, out of the picture almost the same moment she appears. Even women who showed some promise, like Frederica were turned into mere housewives, do not be fooled, she and Mariendorf were only seemingly allowed to voice their opinions after they submitted to the dominant male side.
So it's not only the straight men that oppress women, but gay men as well. Women! Do not be led astray by this chauvinist propaganda, you have the right and obligation to stand up and defend your rights!
TheRefractingOne said: Yeah, it sucks. I mean, the battles take place on a two-dimensional plane! For an anime meant for "intellectuals", this is truly pathetic. 1/10
royaldocks said: Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH
Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance
UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.
There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.
Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.
Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.
I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.
Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.
TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night
Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.
This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.
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