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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rather entertaining series indeed. I thought it had a pretty average start, then around the 3rd/4th episode it started to get good, and finally the last 3 episodes hit the spot. What I really liked about this series was how every character had a very unique personality and ability and how their "stands" were so distinct with such unique powers. Now to the older series to see how this ends! Having NOT seen the previous Jojo's Bizarre Adventure from 1993 yet, and from my little knowledge of the Tarot cards and their meaning (and from what we've seen so far) I'll make a guess and say Dio's Stand is the one of the Death card (I dunno, its probably pretty obvious, but maybe I'm just wrong xD). |
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| It may be because I've read the manga before watching this, but I didn't care for this at all. A lot of cool stands were skipped and I think the characters personalities weren't portrayed very well. I think only Jotaro and Polnareff actually felt like themselves. Just a very weak adaptation all around from the character designs to how many changes they made. I highly suggest reading the manga at some point. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Ep.6 and Ep.7 are the best part of the 2000 series. |
| I just watched something 7 episodes long that started with Jotoro being in a prison and ended with Jotoro defeating an old woman with a death controlling stand. The good guys were heading to Egypt. They have not met Dio yet. Now, can someone please tell me, do I get it right that this is it for the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2000 series, or are there more episodes? This anime confuses me. |
sindarfrom said: I just watched something 7 episodes long that started with Jotoro being in a prison and ended with Jotoro defeating an old woman with a death controlling stand. The good guys were heading to Egypt. They have not met Dio yet. Now, can someone please tell me, do I get it right that this is it for the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2000 series, or are there more episodes? This anime confuses me. Yeah, that is indeed the 2000 series. This series is actually a prequel of the 1993 series which continues from here. The reason why this is the case is that the OVA series originally just adapted the second half and this series was made to fix that. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: Yeah, that is indeed the 2000 series. This series is actually a prequel of the 1993 series which continues from here. The reason why this is the case is that the OVA series originally just adapted the second half and this series was made to fix that. Thank you very much, I would have never guessed it =) Now I will just have to watch the Jojo from 1993. |
| Those tongues! Ick!! Glad Avdul is still alive. Sent with Mal Updater |
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| Well it wasn't bad but coming from the 2012 version this sure was totally different and less good than the prequel, still interesting to see the continuation of the story! |
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That was a good fakeout! Over all, a pretty average anime. On to the original ova! |
| Love and Peace!!! |
| To be completely honest, I'm very surprised at how much I liked it. It skipped a lot, the characters weren't fully realized, and music and sound was pretty dull (especially in comparison to the 2014 version) but I can't say I wasn't entertained. The justice fight was even more spectacular in this version, and overall had a lot of cool original moments. Of course if you can only watch one for some reason, go with the 2014 version or the manga, but the OVA is easily watchable and enjoyable for even a moderate JoJo fan. Okay, so such thing exists but you get my point. |
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| Gotta say, I do like how they made the Justice fight more grand. |
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| I FINALLY understand the 1993 series! And I FINALLY understand how Enya can be J Geil's mom! And I FINALLY understand how Advul is still alive in the older series. Now I can FINALLY watch the newer stuff. |
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| I kinda love their take on the Justice fight. The Justice fight was one of the weaker ones in terms of strategy, Jotaro just kind of beats it with an out of nowhere ability, there's really not much thought placed into how this fight finishes out, so why not just go so over-the-top and grandiose with this one? End it with a spectacle, the Stardust Crusaders standing on the rooftop looking at essentially a mist kaiju, was quite a sight, I even thought "what am I watching right now". Avdol returning with the most visually impressive Crossfire Hurricane, the blazing fire around the setting, it was kinda magical. And everyone got something to do, even though Kakyoin and Joseph contributed very little (still, nice to see Hermit Purple did something in these seven episodes besides take a picture of DIO [though I guess Polnareff just contributed someone to be saved but whatever]). And I liked them using that cigarette bluff with Jotaro from the Dark Blue Moon fight. In some regards, I prefer this to the original OVA. I do think the original OVA was better, it was better animated (which is weird to say, since it came out years prior), had a better OST (not by much, but the music at least stuck out to me at two times), had a bit more of the JoJo charm and humour, and most importantly, just covered better fights than this one did. Of course, they ruined my favourite fight, whereas this part never really did that. I kinda prefer their version of the Justice fight, and combining the Polnareff & Forever stories together made for a really interesting episode. I'm giving this one a 5/10, one point lower since the first episode was dull and the aforementioned advantages the original had, but I did appreciate seeing these re-contextualization in this part to make the seven episode limit work. It is important that that's the context I'm rating this under. It's definitely not a substitute for the manga or the TV series. Like, during the Hanged Man fight, the OVA played it pretty straight and while I certainly wouldn't say the OVA's version of it is bad, it was undeniable that it was just an inferior version of it. I enjoyed it fine, but my mind definitely wandered to how the TV anime did it. I enjoyed this series the most when they made changes, so episode 3 & 7 mostly (and 2 to a lesser extent sticks out as well). This is my fourth time going through Stardust Crusaders, so experiencing a truncated and different version was enjoyable. |
| My background with Jojo is that Stardust Crusaders is one of my favorite manga. I've read it, and I've watched the David productions anime. Yet, going into this and seeing how different it was made me realize this is my favorite kind of adaptation. If I'm going to watch an anime after I've read the manga, I'd like it to have a different spin, I'd like it to be a different interpretation. Instead of seeing what I've already read panel for panel, this kind of adaptation encourages revisiting a work one loves and enjoying it in a new way. For that, I look forward to watching 1993. For specific thoughts, the abridgement of a series about the journey and the bond of brothers feels counterintuitive in nature, as if it's missing the point. However, the sheer existence of an abridged version doesn't harm the original in any way, and it's something many people desire the original was. It makes this a fascinating look at how such a long story could be broken down to only the most important plot beats. Skipping Tower of Gray and Dark Blue Moon while combining Silver Chariot and Strength for instance. Otherwise, more simple skipping of less crucial arcs can constantly be seen, or leaving out characters like Anne who don't serve a greater purpose. And while racing to the most crucial arcs may be missing out on necessary interactions to endear us with the characters, even removing many of the more comical interactions of the arcs depicted, there's a sense of atmosphere which is unique. To me, key to JoJo is getting to the point. But we don't do that here. We get added shots of the locale, we get contextualizing scenes like why Avdol arrived after Polnareff and then Kakyoin with the car, before the others. We see each character given separate rooms in Enya's hotel as they soak in the creepiness to be used later, we get lingering shots of Strength beyond what I remember in the original. My point is, the tone of the series feels unique because we spend more with less. As one may expect with this perspective, I think the serious is done well but miss the more fun or comedic aspects. The Hanged Man was nearly perfect, I had little complaint. However, stuck in this perspective, I was somewhat bitter to see how Justice was changed. Removing the fun and endearing heart for the self serious and creepy atmosphere the OVA was going for. However, recognizing the intention behind this change allowed me to forgive that. Jotaro, and Joseph feel incredibly underutilized, and as others have mentioned, they got their chance to shine using elements from past arcs which were cut, or future arcs. Avdol himself reviving in a burst of fire at such a crucial moment continues to make him one of the most memorable characters which is a breath of fresh air for a character most wish they got more from. I view this changed arc as both serving the purpose of a mid-season finale but also the much-needed building of presence for the characters. Not only that, but it did so through changing the comedically subversive Justice into a genuinely frightening encounter which made sense with the rules of her power. So that was charming, especially seeing her use her illusions to greater effect. |
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| Finally, the Justice fight got the care and depth it needed. |
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| Dem tongues. Polnareff runs. Dat eye. Her Sutando. Lick the toilet? Jotaro appears. DAMN! They popped out. Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora! Kakyoin saves Enya. Dat Sutando. Dat fire! An amazing ending. That fight was awesome. Loved the sakuga. Fukami was amazing as Enya. The stuff this OVA had, this is what I miss. Now.. Onward to Egypt! |
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