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Sep 6, 2015 9:05 PM
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Natsu's secret technique? Makes sense that Precht would make Fairy Heart actually considering Grimoire Heart.
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Ah....

So the story of Mavis is over. That's how she was encased in the crystal. Heh Natsu. Somehow, I knew he'd try voice his opinion and want to beat Zeref~
Sep 6, 2015 9:08 PM
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Secret technique? Interested to see what it is.
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This should be interesting. Just make sure our main protagonist gets an important role this arc. Also that reaction to gajeel was hilarious.
Sep 6, 2015 9:31 PM
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Well, this last chappy of flashback was a bit underwhelming, but overall, still decent. I'ma assume we're done with flashbacks for now. Looking forward to going back to more present development.

Somewhat interested in Natsu's arm and his new technique. This arc's having a hard time holding my interest though. But I know it just started, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and believe it'll drag me in eventually.
Sep 6, 2015 9:33 PM
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this really feels like the final arc but its still many unanswered questions
Sep 6, 2015 9:36 PM
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Fairy Heart is eternity magic.
Wonder what Natsu's secret technique is.
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Sep 6, 2015 9:39 PM
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Cool to know what fairy heart is exactly. Can't wait to see what Natsu's secret technique is.
Sep 6, 2015 9:40 PM
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And yet again we reach into stupid territory. At least Hiro starts being consistent now.

All plotholes of Fairy Tail redeemed because love=solution to everything.
That´s why the series does have a legit explanation for everything.

Besides the point how one´s love is stronger than someone else´s.
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Sep 6, 2015 9:51 PM

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Little nice flashback, I'm just curious what Natsu can do with that arm of his... So they have a infinit magic suply so to say.
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My questions are:

1. How did Zeref arrive on tenroy crying 100 years later?

2. What is the one magic? Etherion? Eternal Magic? Life? So confused.

3. Where is Gildarts/Achnologia/Jellal?

4. And why did such an amazing backstory have such an underwhelming ending?

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Interesting explanations I guess to everything, can't wait to see the reveal of Natsu's new power on his arm. Only thing that worries me is the title "Prelude to the final battle" I see for the next chapter title. It feels far too early for the "Final battles" when the other side hasn't even had much development :l
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Crescentgenisi said:
My questions are:

1. How did Zeref arrive on tenroy crying 100 years later?

2. What is the one magic? Etherion? Eternal Magic? Life? So confused.

3. Where is Gildarts/Achnologia/Jellal?

4. And why did such an amazing backstory have such an underwhelming ending?



1. Zeref went to Tenru himself after Mavis died as a form of self banishment, in order to protect the world from himself, it´s only mentioned briefly though.

2. One magic isn´t Fairy heart Fairy heart≠ One magic.
For some reason Hiro doen´t use the term Mana which makes it confusing when he makes a character say, I don´t have any more magic,or in this case infinite magic, he means the characters is out of mana. For some reason he refuses to just use the term Mana like everyone else does, probably to avoid to showcase how RPG based Fairy Tail is.

Fairy Heart= infinite Mana supply=allows infinite usage of Etherion for example, as the chapter explains. It could allow Cana for example to use an infinite raining Fairy Glitter.

3.Being out of the story for convenience sake because he´d be probably imbalancing the powerscales more than he already did. His power is also fairly boring to write since it consists of 1hit Ko´s or punches./Flying around till plot demands hiim to make a move/ Is a secondary character, he´s the one who ordered Sorano/Angel, so he´ll appear when the plot demands it.Don´t forgett the focus is Fairy Tail.

4. Because it´s Hiro Mashima that´s how he usually writes his arcs, with exceptions.

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Natsu's technique: Dragon of the Darkness Flame! xD

If it is anything like that, though, I will be pissed, FT or not.


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On another note, Zeref be like "I already ravaged dis shit nigz, you can haz her back." *puts on sunglasses, and walks into the distance mumbling to himself*

(I am a Zeref fan, but still)

Can't wait for next week~~
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Well, So,Fairy Heart is something within our expectation..I thought it will be more of unexpected things..

I didn't expected Gajeel will throw such a cheeky words about love xD
Sep 6, 2015 10:31 PM

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Natsu's new technique that will bring down Zeref will be a punch full of love.

Gajeel talking about love was kinda weird.
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Gajeel's speech about love was surprising....

But why? Oh why did this epic backstory have such a terrible ending?!
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Dat Gajeel out of place "Falling in love isn't a sin" last one I expected to say that lol

Talking from experience are we now :P Levi's blush was cute.

I doubt that Mavis and Zeref have gotten over eachother yet

I wonder if Natsu's new move is related to E.N.D in anyway?
Sep 6, 2015 10:46 PM

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Sparteh said:
Gajeel's speech about love was surprising....

But why? Oh why did this epic backstory have such a terrible ending?!

Not terrible, more like underwhelming... Well I knew something like that would happen, Hiro always gives simple explanation to stuff.
Sep 6, 2015 11:03 PM

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This chapter was a bit underwhelming. Based on what we got in this chapter Acnologia is really strong I wonder how they will defeat him since Zeref needs the limitless magic source to beat him.
Sep 6, 2015 11:26 PM

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Finally we will get to know what technique it is and why he was holding his arm always.

Didn't really care for the rest in the chapter, especially Lamejeel and his speeh.
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Yuriy ain't dead bruh! His death was way to vague imo, so I think he still lives. Also Natsu's arm must have to do something with END.
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Finally it's time to know what happened to his arm.



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Sep 6, 2015 11:45 PM

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So, Hades coming in contact with eternity magic inspired him to go after the one magic. And the reason this happened was because of pure coincidence that he was standing in front of the guild at that momment all alone. Could have just as well been someone else....

And they had a ressurection lachryma crystal in the basement just in case......

And Zeref didn't feel that Mavis was alive?

And Eternity magic just popped up in the basement? Conveniently after Zeref went away and not right in front of him. I get that the explanation will be something along the lines of love and friendship that created eternity magic but...bleh....

And fairy heart being your standard infinite ammo is incredibly anti-climactic.

Are the dragons even relevant at this point?

And even though Natsu's secret right-arm technique is relevant to END(no doubt) the way he presents it is.....reminiscent of....well...everything that is wrong with Natsu. "Dont worry, I'm natsu, I got this."(Is anybody going to slap him in the face and say "He's Zeref you know, no you don't got this." ?)
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Sep 6, 2015 11:48 PM

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Wow, Fairy Heart.. the infinite magic, so powerful
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FinksGhost said:
Yuriy ain't dead bruh! His death was way to vague imo, so I think he still lives. Also Natsu's arm must have to do something with END.


Already called that shit.

Kanic said:

And they had a ressurection lachryma crystal in the basement just in case...

It´s Fairy tail why surprised?

Kanic said:
And Zeref didn't feel that Mavis was alive?


Natsu was probably treated the same way, called that shit a while back,(Natsu never was fully "dead)".

Kanic said:

And Eternity magic just popped up in the basement? Conveniently after Zeref went away and not right in front of him. I get that the explanation will be something along the lines of love and friendship that created eternity magic but...bleh....

It´s Fairy tail it tends to excite and then fall flat on it´s nose.
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And fairy heart being your standard infinite ammo is incredibly anti-climactic

Read the point above.
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Are the dragons even relevant at this point?


Yes when we find out that Natsu, Gajeel, Wendy, Sting and Rogue are orphans from 400 years in the past, with altered memories.

Gonna drink the salty tears of everybody whose gonna be mad at that Yuri retcon.
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Is Acnologia really that strong?
Sep 7, 2015 12:39 AM

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Is Acnologia really that strong?

Well he can shift into a dragon, and dragons are pretty op in the ft verse.
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Loved the chapter but hated how Zeref dropped Mavis' body like it was a pile of garbage.
Also judging by the name of the next chapter "prelude to the FINAL battle" its most likely both acnologia and Zeref will be taken down this arc, concluding FT. But I really hope that I'm wrong.
Sep 7, 2015 12:57 AM

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Loved the chapter but hated how Zeref dropped Mavis' body like it was a pile of garbage.
Also judging by the name of the next chapter "prelude to the FINAL battle" its most likely both acnologia and Zeref will be taken down this arc, concluding FT. But I really hope that I'm wrong.


yeah the title for the next chapter does make it seem like it will be the final battle in FT, but I hope it's just the final battle with the spriggan 12 for this arc. I hope at least Acnologia fight gets its own separate arc.
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Santoryu_XBurner said:
Fairy Heart is eternity magic.
Wonder what Natsu's secret technique is.


"Strong Ass Fire Dragon Magic", he's probably gonna say something like that, I don't believe he's been developing shit.
Sep 7, 2015 1:26 AM

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At least we're going to get info on natsu's arm. Looking forward to it. However, this technique better be legit. People spent literally their whole lives trying to find ways to destroy the IMMORTAL Zeref, and now natsu came up with something that could defeat him within a year? :/

Unless it has something to do with him being END or it took really special intense specific training then I'm not buying it.

Overall, cool chapter and nice flashback arc. Hoping Mavis will help with the battle if she's the fairy tactician. And now the answer to what fairy heart is finally revealed. I also feel a little bad for hades, spent his whole time trying to revive Mavis.
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Santoryu_XBurner said:
Fairy Heart is eternity magic.
Wonder what Natsu's secret technique is.


"Strong Ass Fire Dragon Magic", he's probably gonna say something like that, I don't believe he's been developing shit.


That could happen lol But if he did develop something make sense, since he had a year to think about stuff, his whole purpose was to get stronger. I believe it might have something to do with dragonification.
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Hmmm finally time to see what Natsu's been up to with that arm all bandaged up.
Sep 7, 2015 1:47 AM
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b1GZZ said:


"Strong Ass Fire Dragon Magic", he's probably gonna say something like that, I don't believe he's been developing shit.


That could happen lol But if he did develop something make sense, since he had a year to think about stuff, his whole purpose was to get stronger. I believe it might have something to do with dragonification.



Would it piss you off if it turns out that Natsu is a demon slayer now?

Reasons for the likelyhood of this, Natsu witnessed Gray perfoming this type of magic. Gray got it given by his father ,they are rivals and the last enemies the faced who initiated Natsu´s training session were demons.
Making it possible for Natsu to crave for such an ability.
Silver selftaught himself Demon slayer magic.
Zeref claimed that Natsu is the only one who can kill him. Not sure if he said it towards Natsu.
It wouldn´t be difficult to make Natsu read some ancient book Gildarts found to teach him demon slaying magic.

This is Hiro Mashima so Natsu is probably just shittalking
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Would it piss you off if it turns out that Natsu is a demon slayer now?

Reasons for the likelyhood of this, Natsu witnessed Gray perfoming this type of magic. Gray got it given by his father ,they are rivals and the last enemies the faced who initiated Natsu´s training session were demons.
Making it possible for Natsu to crave for such an ability.
Silver selftaught himself Demon slayer magic.
Zeref claimed that Natsu is the only one who can kill him. Not sure if he said it towards Natsu.
It wouldn´t be difficult to make Natsu read some ancient book Gildarts found to teach him demon slaying magic.

This is Hiro Mashima so Natsu is probably just shittalking


When Silver said he self taught devil slayer, pretty sure he learn it from a book or something... same with Chelia, she learned god slaying magic from a book... Orga too probably.

I don't think Natsu fought demons in his training, but if he reveals what he's hiding under those bandages, we might get to see what he did in his training...

I still don't think it's possible for him to learn another magic like that... There are people in the FT verse who have 2 different kind of magic, but they're not alike, as in not slayer based magic or something like that. Mira has her satan soul but can also transform. Panther Lily can use aria (the wings exceeds use to fly) and can tranform into a muscular version of him etc... Natsu basically needs to learn 2 lost magics... I don't see that happening. Even Ultear knows a lost magic but knows ice make magic as well... see where I'm getting at?
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When Silver said he self taught devil slayer, pretty sure he learn it from a book or something... same with Chelia, she learned god slaying magic from a book... Orga too probably.

I don't think Natsu fought demons in his training, but if he reveals what he's hiding under those bandages, we might get to see what he did in his training...

I still don't think it's possible for him to learn another magic like that... There are people in the FT verse who have 2 different kind of magic, but they're not alike, as in not slayer based magic or something like that. Mira has her satan soul but can also transform. Panther Lily can use aria (the wings exceeds use to fly) and can tranform into a muscular version of him etc... Natsu basically needs to learn 2 lost magics... I don't see that happening. Even Ultear knows a lost magic but knows ice make magic as well... see where I'm getting at?


Let me ask you then, what would be a satisfying answer to you?
I definetely would hate the kick ass magic, but it´s Hiro and anything goes.

Demon Slayer magic could somewhat be explained, what would your approach/prediction be?
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Isterio said:
metsujin said:


When Silver said he self taught devil slayer, pretty sure he learn it from a book or something... same with Chelia, she learned god slaying magic from a book... Orga too probably.

I don't think Natsu fought demons in his training, but if he reveals what he's hiding under those bandages, we might get to see what he did in his training...

I still don't think it's possible for him to learn another magic like that... There are people in the FT verse who have 2 different kind of magic, but they're not alike, as in not slayer based magic or something like that. Mira has her satan soul but can also transform. Panther Lily can use aria (the wings exceeds use to fly) and can tranform into a muscular version of him etc... Natsu basically needs to learn 2 lost magics... I don't see that happening. Even Ultear knows a lost magic but knows ice make magic as well... see where I'm getting at?


Let me ask you then, what would be a satisfying answer to you?
I definetely would hate the kick ass magic, but it´s Hiro and anything goes.

Demon Slayer magic could somewhat be explained, what would your approach/prediction be?


If it's explained I wouldn't mind, but if it's like "Random ass magic" or something I'll probably dislike it.
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Flashbacks were pretty decent.
Gajeel talking about love :o
Wonder what Natsu's got up his sleeve...
Hope the fight with acnologia/zeref will be a good one.
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Gajeel outta nowhere LOL
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Interesting explanations I guess to everything, can't wait to see the reveal of Natsu's new power on his arm. Only thing that worries me is the title "Prelude to the final battle" I see for the next chapter title. It feels far too early for the "Final battles" when the other side hasn't even had much development :l


It's probably just the final battle for Zeref
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After having read Fairy Tail Zero, chapter 11, page 13, i highly, doubt Yuriy being killed miserably offstage.


He's dead. Let him rest in peace with Rita.
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Yuriy ain't dead bruh! His death was way to vague imo, so I think he still lives. Also Natsu's arm must have to do something with END.


Let the guy rest in peace. Precht didn't even tell him why Rita died and if he didn't there was no way Yuri would find out so there is NO reason why he'd be alive. Let the dead rest for fuck's sake

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Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Interesting explanations I guess to everything, can't wait to see the reveal of Natsu's new power on his arm. Only thing that worries me is the title "Prelude to the final battle" I see for the next chapter title. It feels far too early for the "Final battles" when the other side hasn't even had much development :l


It's probably just the final battle for Zeref


Yeah, most likely we will have Gray finding out who Natsu is, Zeref going to the good guys side and the focus shifting towards w/e god thing that cursed them.
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...Precht....You were good man before you fell...it is pity.


Eternity Magic...O__O OK even the Name sounds freaking awesome...Everlasting Magic!?! O__O THAT IS A FREAKING MANA SOURCE!?!?!!?!?
NO F**KING WONDER THAT SPRIGGAN WANTS IT!!!

Oh Gajeel...you are romatic...are you realizing Levi's feelings? XD
Oh Mavis....It has so long time that you have forgotten Spirit of your Guild? ;D Like Freaking Hell will they give you up!!! FT IS FAMILY!!! XD

And Natsu has developing New Technique!? Finally are going to see that Mysterious Right Arm SOON!!!
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Is Acnologia really that strong?
Considering he took over the world in FRogue's timelines, he's obviously the strongest introduced character.
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Lol the way he throw her on the ground, I guess Mavis got dumped.

I like the title for the next chap.
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Natsu says that he's going to defeat Zeref, but he still doens't know that he's really the one who can destroy him. can't wait to see how is he going to react to that..

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Guys Natsu figured out how to defeat Zeref in 1 year while training to defeat Acnologia.

Jellal has been trying to figure out ways to defeat Zeref for 8 years and Natsu has accomplished this in 1 year.

Hiro just took a steaming sh*t on Jellal and his quest for redemption.
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Guys Natsu figured out how to defeat Zeref in 1 year while training to defeat Acnologia.

Jellal has been trying to figure out ways to defeat Zeref for 8 years and Natsu has accomplished this in 1 year.

Hiro just took a steaming sh*t on Jellal and his quest for redemption.

Nah because we don't know if his technique will or won't kill him.
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I am a bit disappointed how story between Zeref and Mavis ended. I think it would have been awesome if Zeref himself did something to save Mavis, this way it felt anti-climatic. I am not saying it is illogical, story is rounded very well, I am just saying that it was disappointing. Not exactly how I wanted story to end between Zeref and Mavis.
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I am a bit disappointed how story between Zeref and Mavis ended. I think it would have been awesome if Zeref himself did something to save Mavis, this way it felt anti-climatic. I am not saying it is illogical, story is rounded very well, I am just saying that it was disappointing. Not exactly how I wanted story to end between Zeref and Mavis.


Mavis' death broke whatever weas left of Zeref's mind. I don't really see how it could go any other way
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