| Out of curiosity. I really disliked it and I was expecting Makishima to succeed in his plan. O.o But if you think otherwise, what things did you like about the system? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, let me add something. This is from this article (http://myanimelist.net/featured/129) // The Sibyl System is what dictates the lives of Japan’s citizens. It is an immense artificial intelligence that is able to document, assess, and make pinpoint predictions of an individual’s personality and aptitude. This is then expressed as a numeric quantity known as a 'Crime Coefficient' and colour known as a 'Hue' - collectively known as a 'Psycho-Pass'. The system is primarily a means to monitor the health and mental well-being of a person, but its accuracy also allows it to predict the future course of a person’s life - even when they are still a child. Its role is to ensure the greatest amount of happiness for the greatest amount of people. It selects jobs that are most suited to a person, sends alerts when their mental health is deteriorating, and maintains public law and order through swift, pre-emptive apprehension of criminals. // Now, a system that is made of human brains can maybe be greater than artificial intelligence. The last will still be made by humans. In this world, everyone is assured their needs to live, and it's also nearly free of crime. As said above, the system judges the people and gives them options to live their lives in the happiest way possible. It also selects their jobs, and give mental health care if they 'need it'. So maybe the only fear that one may have in his/her life is that his/her pshyco pass can raise. The ones with high crime potential will be put on rehabilitation, even though they didn't commit any crime yet. |
AnotherFreeSoulAug 28, 2015 7:06 AM
| sure ... sounds like a good idea |
lewd is love, lewd is life ! |
| Haha, really? Or is that sarcasm? |
| Considering the point of the show is to show how flawed it is, the answer is no. |
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KaiserNazrin said: Considering the point of the show is to show how flawed it is, the answer is no. Well, but there was the possibility to make it 'perfect'. The show was being pretty objective though. |
| The system was described in the show as some sort of collaboration between a network of minds (and/or ai?). The system as it was practised in the show was so full of arbitrary contradictions and inconveniences that it could only have been designed by a pseudo-intellectual. Iulmi said: KaiserNazrin said: Considering the point of the show is to show how flawed it is, the answer is no. Well, but there was the possibility to make it 'perfect'. With a total design overhaul, sure, but then it wouldn't be the same system, would it? |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| No, Sybil restricts you from being stressed over dumb things. I get stressed over dumb things. I'd be executed in less than a day. |
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| My answer'd depend on how Sibyl judges. I feel the show left a couple of things ambigious. On one hand, it says Sibyl determines Hue by monitoring the mental state of its citizens and their stress levels. Which should mean one of two things: its a relatively objective process, entirely automated, or that scans are advanced enough to interpret brain waves accurately and sub-consciously ask the minds of citizens how they feel. While on the other, it says the individual members of Sibyl judge crime coefficients manually. Now this, I have a serious problem with, because then they're just a bunch of hypocrites who've run out of things to do with their overlived lives. But the former interpretation seems to me, the most beautiful system of judgement there could be. No omnipresence is exacting judgement on people who do what it has determined to be an act of evil. If Sibyl is judging people by interpreting their brain waves, then it essentially dwelves in their conscience. It's asking people the Dominator points at if they think what they're doing is acceptable. It's giving neglected principles and morals a voice to the mind of their beholder. Then like Tsunemori says, Sibyl is no jury, its the collective conscience of its people. |
Gracen123 said: If someone commits a crime that produces a victim, the victim is the only one that should have a ruling on the criminals fate. This will give victims a chance to seek revenge or pass on forgivness, working through the true tragedy that is life. I don't think that this would be appropiate at all :S |
| I would would go to prison immediately. So no. |
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| I love lolis, so I'll instantly get killed. |
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exoanon said: Hence i think if sibyl system can be perfect science then i think that is desirable? oh no. it seems like ive typed too long. Did i take this question too seriously? LOL No, it's an awesome response. I wanted to see different points of view. I just though it would be fun to talk about it. I'm still not sure of what's my own opinion, lol. |
| At the very very start when it touted being a fast track to an almost 100% crime-free society, as well as a tool to help you identify exactly which job you'd be happy and successful in, generally taking a lot of the angst out of everyday life and making sure your mental health didn't suffer, sure, it sounded great. But those are really just the "selling points" and the reality is totally different, open to all kinds of life-destroying errors, developing a totally false and dangerous sense of complacency, and prone to corruption. Just seeing all the genuinely honest, compassionate and driven former detectives who are now prisoners in the bureau (until they get sent out under the supervision of Inspectors) just for doing their job? Plus it's really just created a totally totalitarian society -- Yayoi was seriously locked up for life for listening to "unauthorised music"? Mental. That scene where a woman was beaten to death with a hammer while people just stood around and watched because they "didn't understand what murder was" or some nonsense definitely highlighted how dangerous it is. Plus like someone else said I am so easily stressed that I would be sent to prison a week after being born lmao (I do want some of those other technological advances though like the cute jellyfish butler, the ability to magically redecorate your home for free every day, the compact mirror which lets you instantly change clothes in the middle of the street etc etc...) |
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| Yes and no. The Sibil system tries to determine if someone is going to commit a crime before they do it. It is impossible. It could be made to detect the command sent from the brain to the body to cut someone's throat for instance and let's say stop it by paralyzing temporary the subject or we could just find a way to block the part of the brain that allows a person to lie. And it could be fully automated. But you are judged by the brains of psycopaths. No man has the right to judge another. Another problem is how the Sibil tries to heal people with accesses of violence. It is not working. It is based on a view of stupid optimistic people. For instance for many people including myself a way to relieve stress is play a shooter. Basically you release all the stress in an virtual environment. Just trying to have happy thoughts does not work. There other ways to help those people but it depends on each person and it would take too much to explain. Basically Sibil is just a farce. It does not work. It is a placebo. Just like many SJW consider that you can make people to think a certain so does the system. About Makashima I understand him and agree with him but not with his methods. Like Machiavelli said the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the chick was weak. A bomb would have destroyed this whole system. I often wonder what would happen if electronics would stop working. Would humanity self destroy or regain its soul? |
| No BIG no, tbh i'm too scared if Sibyl System exist in this world, i have anxiety so yeah u know what i mean |
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