| It would be nice if you could comment on featured articles. I keep reading them and scrolling down to read the comments before I realize there aren't any. Mod Edit: Modified title for clarity and/or easier searching. |
_Ghost_Apr 20, 2016 4:35 AM
| Yeah being able to comment would be cool. |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| People actually use the featured articles page? I was pretty much permanently repelled away the first time I checked it and seen how horrible it is. Though yeah I see little point of it existing if people cannot even comment on the articles. |
| im against it simply because it will trigger a lot of flame wars, the forums are enough, i think its allowed you make a thread about a featured article anyway |
| What I'm wondering is how does this system work / how does one get up there: http://myanimelist.net/featured/columnist |
Subpyro said: People actually use the featured articles page? I was pretty much permanently repelled away the first time I checked it and seen how horrible it is. Though yeah I see little point of it existing if people cannot even comment on the articles. There's at least a little new thing learned from the interviews. |
FlameWingman21 said: There's at least a little new thing learned from the interviews. Might as well give us the option to filter everything else. Interviews might sound nice and having them stockpiled so you check whichever looks interesting would be good. But other trash overflowing it all is just a turn-off from checking the page at all. |
Subpyro said: What I'm wondering is how does this system work / how does one get up there: http://myanimelist.net/featured/columnist i know that GuardianEnzo is a popular anime blogger and looking at the others websites they are anime bloggers as well, so Xinil may have recruited them its gonna be good if they are payed base on the ads revenue their articles provide |
j0x said: i know that GuardianEnzo is a popular anime blogger and looking at the others websites they are anime bloggers as well, so Xinil may have recruited them its gonna be good if they are payed base on the ads revenue their articles provide I see. Your idea makes it sound as a reflection of Batoto, though I more enjoy reading manga scanlations than some blogs. But ah well, if some people are into that, I guess... Though a filter for the type of articles would still be nice. |
Subpyro said: FlameWingman21 said: There's at least a little new thing learned from the interviews. Might as well give us the option to filter everything else. Interviews might sound nice and having them stockpiled so you check whichever looks interesting would be good. But other trash overflowing it all is just a turn-off from checking the page at all. Yeah, it would be nice indeed. The page is in a mess right now. |
| Since most of the articles are contain mostly about Naruto, Attack on Titans or Shigatsu. I'm somewhat against it. |
DannyTheDonkeyAug 16, 2015 10:43 PM
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
Subpyro said: What I'm wondering is how does this system work / how does one get up there: http://myanimelist.net/featured/columnist http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408446 Subpyro said: Might as well give us the option to filter everything else. This maybe: http://myanimelist.net/featured/tag/industry |
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| Oh? Didn't notice industry tag is only for interviews. |
| I never even knew that was there... and I'm never going back. BEWARE OF SPOILERS! If you want a comments section, I have no reason to be against it. |
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| AFAIK, there aren't threads for them. I'd like some too! |
| Too many hate comments? A lot of the times I'll see a ton of negative comments on the author's profile. |
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| I want this too so I can shit on them tell them how interesting it was. |
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Niddy said: I want this too so I can shit on them tell them how interesting it was. Jerkhov said: +1Too many hate comments? A lot of the times I'll see a ton of negative comments on the author's profile. Seriously, it's all bait for flamewars for the writers. Basically they get to have their blogs as articles on the front page and having the comments disabled. Hell they should just do away with "featured articles", news board covers it all. |
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| Why? Because this site's administration can't even implement a new feature, or for that matter fix an existing one, properly. Saying that comments are disable to avoid "flaming" is ridiculous. They're getting paid for it and most of them come from popular anime blogs. If they can't handle MAL-tier criticism, might as well change jobs. Reading some of these "articles" and not being able to comment on them is just enfuriating. You might say: "well then just filter the bad ones out" Heh, wish I could. As it is, we can't even filter by author. @Edit: grammar. |
xbobxOct 25, 2015 8:09 PM
They're getting paid for it Wait what? |
mayukachan said: They're getting paid for it Wait what?http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408446&show=200#msg42701494 Yeah. Someone actually got paid to write stuff like "My favorite Naruto scenes". |
xbobx said: Holy fucking shit. I want in.mayukachan said: Wait what? http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408446&show=200#msg42701494 Yeah. Someone actually got paid to write stuff like "My favorite Naruto scenes". |
xbobx said: lmfao how the mighty have fallenmayukachan said: Wait what? http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408446&show=200#msg42701494 Yeah. Someone actually got paid to write stuff like "My favorite Naruto scenes". |
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xbobx said: What's next? Getting paid for reviews and recommendations?mayukachan said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408446&show=200#msg42701494Wait what? Yeah. Someone actually got paid to write stuff like "My favorite Naruto scenes". |
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| Yeah I would like to comment on the articles as well. I liked one of them and wanted to comment but there was no area for it.. |
Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| http://myanimelist.net/profile/ljaesch1 This writer reposts all her articles in blogs and asks for feedback. |
| Actually comment feature would benefit MAL more than not. They could at least know which writers should be sacked. They are wasting their money for too many horribly-written articles at the moment. |
| i suggest that MAL added a comment section on articles so the people can express their reaction to that articles |
Nashetania said: And who will moderate these comments? IMO, just like in youtube for ex. it's not a real thread or post, just comment with like or dislike. i think the writer can become the moderator for his/her own articles |
| I agree, writing articles without being able to interact with other users and giving your opinion is boring ... Nashetania said: And who will moderate these comments? Someone who will be responsible of articles for example, or the writer have to report to that someone when there'll problems. |
| Nah it will only add more flame wars and will turn into a shit storm. , if u wanna discuss something just pm the writer . but who know the site is under development , maybe a planned feature . |
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Nashetania said: imn7c5 said: I agree, writing articles without being able to interact with other users and giving your opinion is boring ... Someone who will be responsible of articles for example, or the writer have to report to that someone when there'll problems. Columnists don’t write for that website for free; extra work implies extra money. People actually get paid for these Buzzfeed level articles? |
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| Personally, I do not believe that the comment section will really result in anything but negative comments. I have seen writers receiving praise on their comment walls, which may or may not be sufficient. I do not think they are, but the existence of a featured articles club which I believe (bias as I may be) to be superior in almost every way to the established site receives few actual comments, even though most people have only good things to say about the writers in general. People always ask for certain things, but when it comes to actually utilizing them, it becomes a different story. |
masterofgo said: Personally, I do not believe that the comment section will really result in anything but negative comments. I have seen writers receiving praise on their comment walls, which may or may not be sufficient. I do not think they are, but the existence of a featured articles club which I believe (bias as I may be) to be superior in almost every way to the established site receives few actual comments, even though most people have only good things to say about the writers in general. People always ask for certain things, but when it comes to actually utilizing them, it becomes a different story. Comments shouldn't exist just to pamper writer's ego, if negativity is so obvious there must be something wrong with the articles. If people actually discuss the article there shouldn't be a problem or much of a need for strict moderation. Straight up shitting on people is not great either but MAL guidelines should cover that under "Trolling, abuse and/or harassment will not be tolerated.". I expect people would get motivated by not wanting to get banned. Also while that's a good idea for a club it's not exactly superior since it just adds obstacles on the way to discussion and requires people to attach themselves to a community. Not to mention given the amount of articles navigation will probably become an issue. |
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Drumrug said: First and foremost, no, comments should not exist to pamper ego, but I do not see any reason to suggest that there would be anything constructive about a comment section, specifically because there has been no evidence to support that. Second, there has already been a trend of people responding to writer's on their walls, and none of the comments I have read are within the spirit of discussion.masterofgo said: Personally, I do not believe that the comment section will really result in anything but negative comments. I have seen writers receiving praise on their comment walls, which may or may not be sufficient. I do not think they are, but the existence of a featured articles club which I believe (bias as I may be) to be superior in almost every way to the established site receives few actual comments, even though most people have only good things to say about the writers in general. People always ask for certain things, but when it comes to actually utilizing them, it becomes a different story. Comments shouldn't exist just to pamper writer's ego, if negativity is so obvious there must be something wrong with the articles. If people actually discuss the article there shouldn't be a problem or much of a need for strict moderation. Straight up shitting on people is not great either but MAL guidelines should cover that under "Trolling, abuse and/or harassment will not be tolerated.". I expect people would get motivated by not wanting to get banned. Also while that's a good idea for a club it's not exactly superior since it just adds obstacles on the way to discussion and requires people to attach themselves to a community. Not to mention given the amount of articles navigation will probably become an issue. Third, you need not speak in hypotheticals. A club already exists, which is where I am drawing my conclusions from. Even a club which has featured more quality content than what is currently present on the featured page does not receive a substantial amount of comments, even though the general response has been overwhelmingly positive (whether it be private or otherwise). I do not understand where you can draw any conclusion that a club "just adds obstacles on the way to discussion" because I see no logical reason for that. We are already attached to a community, so a club and the official articles section are not mutually exclusive, and navigation on the featured articles page is limited to just the most recent content, so the same problem exists there as well. My ultimate point here is that while a comment section seems like a necessity, I think the MAL community in general has shown that even when they want things, they do not use them when they are allowed to have it, or end up using alternatives that seem to work just fine. |
| @masterofgo I do not see any reason to suggest that there would be anything constructive about a comment section I'm not suggesting it will be filled with helpful criticism, insightful additions or anything like that. I'm just saying that negativity is not always a bad thing and it's rather blurry as to what people mark as negative. Critique can be harsh, someone will probably be a dick and just say article sucks but there's still room for actually discussing thing, there are already loads of sites based around articles that let people comment whatever which occasionally results in good arguments. Second, there has already been a trend of people responding to writer's on their walls, and none of the comments I have read are within the spirit of discussion. I've noticed that too but there are few things I don't like about that. First one is that sort of communication is a bit personal since people have to talk to author directly, that's probably I presume most of comments are just compliments or very light jabs at worst. Second is that most discussions on any articles ever (outside of blogs) are usually aimed at the community and not the author. Author usually already expresses his opinions and why he has it in the article itself so it's usually useless to discuss it with them. Third, you need not speak in hypotheticals. A club already exists, which is where I am drawing my conclusions from. Even a club which has featured more quality content than what is currently present on the featured page does not receive a substantial amount of comments Sorry, I somehow overlooked that. I saw some pretty good articles but unless I'm missing something there are only 168 people there to discuss the articles so it only seems natural there aren't many comments, not everyone is going to have something to add or confront. I do not understand where you can draw any conclusion that a club "just adds obstacles on the way to discussion" because I see no logical reason for that. My reasoning is that: 1) It's easier to just click article, read it and leave a comment instead of going to the club and then going into a thread. 2) Unless the club is huge there is usually already a community here, people will have some sort of bonds, positive or negative. It's much more personal than throwing out a comment in a dedicated section for anyone else to see. navigation on the featured articles page is limited to just the most recent content, so the same problem exists there as well. Fair point, there are probably ways to work around what my problem with this stuff is but in general it's not very convenient when outside of stickies threads usually go by bump order instead of being sorted chronologically. |
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masterofgo said: First and foremost, no, comments should not exist to pamper ego, but I do not see any reason to suggest that there would be anything constructive about a comment section, specifically because there has been no evidence to support that. Second, there has already been a trend of people responding to writer's on their walls, and none of the comments I have read are within the spirit of discussion. Third, you need not speak in hypotheticals. A club already exists, which is where I am drawing my conclusions from. Even a club which has featured more quality content than what is currently present on the featured page does not receive a substantial amount of comments, even though the general response has been overwhelmingly positive (whether it be private or otherwise). I do not understand where you can draw any conclusion that a club "just adds obstacles on the way to discussion" because I see no logical reason for that. We are already attached to a community, so a club and the official articles section are not mutually exclusive, and navigation on the featured articles page is limited to just the most recent content, so the same problem exists there as well. My ultimate point here is that while a comment section seems like a necessity, I think the MAL community in general has shown that even when they want things, they do not use them when they are allowed to have it, or end up using alternatives that seem to work just fine. It's a disappointing and rather scary reality when a website with a relatively active forum cannot trust its own userbase with discussion. I enjoy skimming through comments, even if they may be full of crap (a la youtube comments) but that's not to say there aren't any amusing or interesting comments that can be made. I think at least the very option of opening articles to comments would be good. At least make it optional for authors to open their articles to comments, and they can choose to disable them. I think the biggest purpose of comments is for the community to reflect and discuss the article, of which you can't achieve if you simply post on the author's comment page. I also think you need to consider that the MFA club simply doesn't have as much exposure or mainstream appeal, or possibly that it feels like an intimidating environment to comment or share opinions. Which one of these is contributing to low comment traffic I can only guess, but hopefully with your next few site-wide publications we can draw better conclusions. For now, I personally advocate for at least the option to enable article comments. |
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| I thought adding the option to comment on featured article on mal would be a no brainer? |
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| comments would be really useful to discuss the article's right under it. plus an upvoting system wouid really help to find useful articles outside top 10 yada yada yada |
| Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse. Now take a look at Berserk (2016). YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY. |
| More work for forum mods, huh? Sure, why not. |
LordVitaly said: each writer can moderate of his/her own articleMore work for forum mods, huh? Sure, why not. |
| Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse. Now take a look at Berserk (2016). YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY. |
eromangasensei said: LordVitaly said: each writer can moderate of his/her own articleMore work for forum mods, huh? Sure, why not. They don’t write for free, though. Edit: (http://myanimelist.net/about.php?go=team&_location=mal_h_m These people are volunteers); (these people http://myanimelist.net/featured/columnist aren’t). |
BilgameshApr 29, 2016 1:43 AM
| nah it will be more work for the volunteer moderators, i doubt the writers that are just paid and then leave will moderate their own articles considering they rather write more articles here or other sites to earn more money than to monitor the comments section all the time |
| Duplicate threads merged Although I would want this feature for user-written articles, the quality of the current articles wouldn't attract much more than a plethora of negative responses. There should be an effort to improve article quality from them before introducing this I think. |
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Tensho said: Duplicate threads merged Although I would want this feature for user-written articles, the quality of the current articles wouldn't attract much more than a plethora of negative responses. There should be an effort to improve article quality from them before introducing this I think. Okay, you will improve the quality of these articles, but there will still be these “your article sucks, you suck, go die” comments. What will you do with them? |
LordVitaly said: Okay, you will improve the quality of these articles, but there will still be these “your article sucks, you suck, go die” comments. What will you do with them? They'll be moderated? Whether that's by forum or review/rec or some other mods I wouldn't know. |
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