KaoruMatsuoka said: eromangasensei said: Was he really the sole reason Madhouse went bust, though?hey, Kawajiri still works at madhouse! Rintaro also pops up to do OPs or segments! If you're gonna blame someone blame Maruyama for poor commercial planning & busting money on original projects. I understand he was the founder and all, but if he kept making poor financial decisions, couldn't the board of directors or something step in to overrule him? I'm no Madhouse or business expert, but I don't think the fault lies solely with Maruyama. yeah not solely him, but maruyama contributed the most with his riskier shows that wouldnt do well commercially (he was their main producer). Redline's average performence didnt help either. Osamu dezaki & Satoshi kon also died around that time, so it was just really really bad time for them. Z-Dante said: eromangasensei said: If they're the wrong reasons why madhouse is bad , may I ask what right reasons might be ?you're hating madhouse for all the wrong reasons. Plus the art quality statement is total bollocks so nice bait. And nope. Not baiting. Madhouse used to have bad visuals before ( or maybe that's just me being used to the godly PA and KyoAni visuals ) . Maybe they're improving recently along with the whole industry. in mahouka's case they were only hired to do animation, no control over creative staff. They dont have a say on sequels either, unless it's their in-house production or original, like chihayafuru. (in ngnl mh wasnt even on production committee) I've always found their art - animation quality to be above average compared to other studios, so cant say much about that. |
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| Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse. Now take a look at Berserk (2016). YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY. |
KaoruMatsuoka said: just slightly remember one of your favorites is A-1.A-1 Pictures. They can hardly be called a studio. It's like they're a McDonald's assembly line, cranking out the McDonald's of anime: cheap stuff that looks good on the surface but is actually utter garbage. They're like 90% contractor, too. seriously, ZECHS96 said: polygon pictures have better cgi than most animation studio out there (including sanzigen).Polygon pictures, ajin/ knights of sidonia, there cgi looks horrible |
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| Every other studio > A bag of shit > DEEN. Everything that DEEN touches is adapted like shit, is written like shit and looks like shit. The art and animation are atrocious, with tons of quality. Plus, I'll never forgive them for that Umineko adaptation. NEVER. |
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Kuma said: Just because they're a bad studio doesn't mean they can't have one good show. They put out so much stuff there had to be one that wasn't crap.KaoruMatsuoka said: just slightly remember one of your favorites is A-1A-1 Pictures. They can hardly be called a studio. It's like they're a McDonald's assembly line, cranking out the McDonald's of anime: cheap stuff that looks good on the surface but is actually utter garbage. They're like 90% contractor, too. |
KaoruMatsuoka said: ehh, there "crap" is subjective. i would admit that A-1 has variative appealing so one can be liked, one can be hated. but i don't see them are "extreamly" bad studios. at least their adaptation is decent. they have pretty good animation and appealing art style. i don't understadn why people blame a studio if their work is for adapting the source.Kuma said: Just because they're a bad studio doesn't mean they can't have one good show. They put out so much stuff there had to be one that wasn't crap.just slightly remember one of your favorites is A-1 |
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| Studio TNK.... Even High School DXD can't save them from my eyes, for creating SChool DAys. It doesn't also help that the other stuff I've watched from them are either average or shows that I've dropped. |
| While I rated some shows of them quite high, Toei is still the worst animation studio. |
They only adapt already popular LNs / Manga. How is that a bad thing? I can't really blame them for trying, considering how half of the Japanese anime fanbase hates their guts because "not enough moe lolis uguuu" and "it's pandering to the West"And yet , they sometime totally butchers the show. ( Eg: Mahouka ). The popularity of a source material and whether a show butches a show or not are two completely different things and thus your comparison makes no senseBesides, Mahouka was trash from the very beginning No matter how much popular their shows gets / how next they sells, They never releases a sequel. It's not their fault if the production committee members are a bunch of idiotsCrappy art quality compared to other well known studios. Not MoeAni and uFo quality does not equal bad qualityBesides, I'd rather take variety and above average quality over "same shit, different toilet" any day of the year Over-Westernizing almost all their shows. ( name one of their op which isn't Half-Engrish) . I didn't know that having an OP song being sung in a foreign language meant that the rest of the show was over foreignedThese are few of the reasons why I can't like madhouse. If they release a good NGNL sequel , I'll gladly accept them as a great studio. That doesn't make sense |
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| cant really think of a bad studio if u say bad studio u gotta talk about how they adapt and animate things as well as operate toei, deen, perriot stood the test of time and are one of the oldest studios out there to consistently produce anime. u cant really say madhouse, shaft, kyoani, or jc staff is bad because they have produced many high quality series. now whether u like or hate the studio thats another story but "worst" studio is a bit or a crazy statement. people have to realize that not everything is pandering or catering to their needs. if a studio just makes ecchi or just makes kids show it doesnt mean they are a bad studio they just cater to their demographics which u are or arent a part of. |
| Everyone without exception has animes studies that deviated from the source material, and other anime that adapted well. For example madhouse maladaptive: btooom, No Game No Life, claymore, ichigo 100%, overlord, mahouka, mahou senson, card captor sakura, etc. |
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moodie said: cant really think of a bad studio if u say bad studio u gotta talk about how they adapt and animate things as well as operate toei, deen, perriot stood the test of time and are one of the oldest studios out there to consistently produce anime. u cant really say madhouse, shaft, kyoani, or jc staff is bad because they have produced many high quality series. now whether u like or hate the studio thats another story but "worst" studio is a bit or a crazy statement. people have to realize that not everything is pandering or catering to their needs. if a studio just makes ecchi or just makes kids show it doesnt mean they are a bad studio they just cater to their demographics which u are or arent a part of. madhouse, shaft, kyoani, or jc staff Also has animes maladaptive. |
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Seky said: of coursemoodie said: cant really think of a bad studio if u say bad studio u gotta talk about how they adapt and animate things as well as operate toei, deen, perriot stood the test of time and are one of the oldest studios out there to consistently produce anime. u cant really say madhouse, shaft, kyoani, or jc staff is bad because they have produced many high quality series. now whether u like or hate the studio thats another story but "worst" studio is a bit or a crazy statement. people have to realize that not everything is pandering or catering to their needs. if a studio just makes ecchi or just makes kids show it doesnt mean they are a bad studio they just cater to their demographics which u are or arent a part of. madhouse, shaft, kyoani, or jc staff Also has animes maladaptive. but having some bad anime doesnt make u a bad studio and having some good anime doesnt make u a good studio not saying all studios are good but "worst" is a reach id be lying if i said i love every anime i seen by x y or z studio |
| Why does no one say Idea Factory?! They produced both Mars of Destruction AND Skelter+Heaven. Edit: They only have 2 shows that have a score above the 5.5 |
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| Tokyo Ghoul has good adaptation not skip anything important in the first season and the second season is an original story. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-11/tokyo-ghoul-2nd-anime-season-video-teases-new-story-by-creator/.79825 Pierrot has good adaptations as The Twelve Kingdoms, Detective School Q, Tegami Bachi, Level E, Sabagebu, Hanasakeru Seishōnen, Yu Yu Hakusho, etc. |
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| there's no such thing as a bad studio,all of them are good in their own way |
Nagirah said: Seky said: Tokyo Ghoul has good adaptation I think I just triggered, goodbye. But for real though, I don't think many tokyo ghoul fans would call even the first season's adaptation "good" and just because the second season is anime original doesn't excuse it from being complete garbage. The thing about Tokyo Ghoul is that many who read his manga are rookies. They not know that most anime things are skipped. The important thing is to follow the plot. In all new anime season I see that things are missed or poorly adapted.Tokyo Ghoul regarding the second season, it is a matter of taste to my taste and I understood. PS: Read the manga Boku dake ga Inai Machi        |
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Seky said: Sorry, but no, that is just wrong, wrong and once again wrongTokyo Ghoul has good adaptation I hate the manga as well but even I can see that it's the better of the bunch Pierrot took something that already was shit and made it 100 times worse And I'm not even going to talk about what I think about Tokyo Phoul √A |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
dizzyur said: DEEN are far from being the best studio but they're way too overhatedDEEN can be okay or shit, depending on the show. On occasion their art and animation ain't so bad, and at others, its an offmodel atrocity, but it all depends on the adaption. They deserve a lot of credit for producing so many BL TV series BL haters gonna hate |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Fucking cancerrot. They destroy all they touch. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
| kyoto animation they have only boring/plotless anime |
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| funny enough, one of their works that has very obvious plot (full metal panic) considered boring, when their plotless spin-off (FMP: fumoffu) considered better than it parent stories. |
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| Every studio has strong shows and weak ones. That said, Idea Factory is totally the worst and you'll need a mountain of evidence (that doesn't exist) to prove me otherwise. |
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| Studio Deen is kinda shitty (See: Hetalia, Higurashi, Junjou Romantica, Vampire Knight, Pupa, ) I don't know a lot about other studios lol I hate NAZ for Dangan Ronpa and DMMD, can't complain about how Space Dandy looked tho |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: Go Hands by far. In all their pathetic existence they have not done any good series...they are even worse than P.A. Works and Ufotable. ehh. they made seitokai yokuindomo which is pretty good. still not find any of them other than this above average. |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: you totaly miss the point of shows..Kuma said: Seitokai good?...Oh yes because only saying vulgarities without a point it's very good right?ehh. they made seitokai yokuindomo which is pretty good. still not find any of them other than this above average. |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: the joke about those vulgarity. it's 4-koma manga about it. using vulgarity as core of joke. you are same like saying ecchi is bad because there is too many ass scane on there.Kuma said: So what was the point then?........................you totaly miss the point of shows.. |
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| A1-Pictures are probably the worst anime studio in my opinion. Rehashing the same generic light novel adaptation gets old after a while. |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: more imaginative than most things that considered "deep" stuff out there for sure. word play, jokes, character, you have maintance all of them. 4-koma style is not easy. you have to make story that impactful enough just in 4 panel. if you draw 8 pages, you have to make 16 stories. that's why there is rare 4-koma that has long page. so does adapt it. they can't adapt it literaly. maintance the atmosphere, re arrange the story, and make it sure the pace it not screwing the story inside it. seriously, people really need stop to underastimte stuff.Kuma said: the joke about those vulgarity. it's 4-koma manga about it. using vulgarity as core of joke. you are same like saying ecchi is bad because there is too many ass scane on there. A.K.A. The point is only saying vulgarities...IT'S SO IMAGINATIVE! :D 4/10 |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: OnTheShore said: At least they have decent animation :v (Still it's a terrible studio)A1-Pictures are probably the worst anime studio in my opinion. Rehashing the same generic light novel adaptation gets old after a while. they have baku dake just for this season. and they even have more of them. |
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| P.A. Works. With that sort of animation, I wish that it'd stop using its budget for all those drama series. |
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Kuma said: EvaLainGalaxy said: At least they have decent animation :v (Still it's a terrible studio) they have baku dake just for this season. and they even have more of them. true a-1s obviously not the worst studio lol |
EvaLainGalaxy said: it's not bad because it succesful in most point of it and acheive what it supposed to. Kuma said: A.K.A. Its not bad because it's a 4-koma adaptation...let me guess you are a fan of OPM too, right?more imaginative than most things that considered "deep" stuff out there for sure. word play, jokes, character, you have maintance all of them. 4-koma style is not easy. you have to make story that impactful enough just in 4 panel. if you draw 8 pages, you have to make 16 stories. that's why there is rare 4-koma that has long page. so does adapt it. they can't adapt it literaly. maintance the atmosphere, re arrange the story, and make it sure the pace it not screwing the story inside it. seriously, people really need stop to underastimte stuff. also what's wrong with i am being OPM fans? it has nothing to do with this argument. |
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Even with its low budget, SSY is still amazing, which says something about the A-1 staff. |
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EvaLainGalaxy said: funny enough shinsekai yori is one of those novel adaptaon, when boku dake is manga.Kuma said: Nah, Boku Dake it's mediocre (Shinsekai Yori is great :3)they have baku dake just for this season. and they even have more of them. |
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yuiyuigahama said: tbh, A-1 is not my favorite studio either (my favorite is sunrise, artland, and tetsunoko production BTW), but they are seriously far from worst.Kuma said: they have baku dake just for this season. and they even have more of them. true a-1s obviously not the worst studio lol |
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| Funny how people say A-1 Pictures. Quality wise they are great, adaption wise, they are infinitely better at adapting than other studios. Working!! alone already makes it a great studio. Not even close to the bottom. |
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