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kataklism said: there hasn't been any rape in a scene where there would have basically been a gang bang, and afterwards the last guy was asked by rori to rape 2 dead bodies, at his refusal, she made him bury his own grave with just his naked hands. does that explain it better? I don't understand why you would need a scene like that... |
ninja88880 said: I don't understand why you would need a scene like that... 2 words: shock value Some people want their daily dosis of EDGE, it seems. |
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kataklism said: Grey-Zone said: Seriously... it seems all people care about here is "compared to the manga this..." or "compared to the manga that..." well, they completely cut out a core part of the manga: rape, and hopefully they won't take out slavery as well or they will most likely change the course of the story. |
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Takuan_Soho said: ninja88880 said: I don't understand why you would need a scene like that... The manga shows the middle ages like they were, which honestly is part of its appeal. Even Game of Thrones is somewhat sanitized. The manga pulls no punches on that regard. As someone who likes history, I like that element of realism. The past was brutal, it is important to remember how brutal because it contextualizes the decisions people made back then (people like to point out the abuses the Catholic Church did in the past, what they fail to realize is that while compared to our standards today the RCC did horrible things compared to the standards of that day, the RCC was incredibly progressive). That said, having one panel in a manga is very very different from animating it. The single panel captures the horror very well, animating the scene, because it would take longer and would have to be fluid, would have a different impact. Anime adaptation was forced to compromise to keep the story intact and just have it acceptable for general populace. They want to make this a franchise and thus something that sells well. |
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Newhopes said: Gov said: Can someone explain to me why Rory attacked those bandits but didn't attack the military people? Why just talk to them but not the bandits? Why did the bandits deserved to be slaughtered? They cut alot of the darker stuff, those bandits had just killed a family including raping the wife and young daughter. Ah, thank you for clearing that up. I was reading a bunch of comments about the cut out rape scene, but had no idea of the circumstances behind it. |
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oldskoolpunk said: Good episode. Rory was toned down a lot from the manga, as others have pointed out. I have read the chapter 4 for comparison purposes and compared to the manga version, anime Rory totally lacks any kind of characterisation. All we know that she likes riding cars and kills people with an axe. But why does she kill them – the anime doesn't explain. The bandit fight scene could even be left as it is, but with more of Rory's monologue added and it would be much better. |
| This was the episode I needed to keep watching. Good stuff. |
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| It seems 99% of criticism is just that it's "not exactly the same as another adaption". |
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| GATE is becoming better by the week. I was surprised though that we saw all our main characters in this episode. I love Itami's character a lot. Also Rory is a beast :D. Everytime I hear the word apostle I think of Berserk. She is really powerful, at the beginning I thought she was bad, but now everything is clear. She is awesome. That dragon's CGI was done pretty well in my opinion. |
| Everyone seems to be comparing this with the manga. And I was like, is the manga 100% adaptation of the novel? Or did the manga exaggerates things that are in the novel? Because I'm sure this anime would follow the original adaptation, which is the novel. But who knows? Other than those 85 users who claimed to read the novel, no one actually knows if the manga follows the novel 100% |
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| What a great episode. Currently really enjoying this show. This is one of the better shows this season in my opinion. I'm liking Itami as a character, and also the other characters. Also, the funny moments are fun to watch. Looking forward to next episode. |
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| Welp, Rory is amazing. Easily best girl. I don't even need to see more to know that!! xD |
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| This anime keep surprising me :D ! But seriously, the dragon CG is really bad .. i was expecting more in this fight, but okay, the Loli badass fight made up for it xD |
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| Goth Rory for the win.I imagine my reaction if i saw a real goth lolita would be similar to their's lol, or even more crazy. Anyway, this is shaping up to be a VERY fun adventure. |
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| All 3 heroines had good intros, that was surprising. This definitely my favorite anime of the year unless something else better than this pops up. |
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| really good episode already feel Rory is best girl tier had to check out her appearance in the manga...have to say that felt pretty important to leave out,also noticed the angles these bandits were getting cut at seem quite brutal was not wrong lol. |
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| Nice episode. I still can't believe, Lelei is voiced by Nao Touyama. :) That goth loli sitting on mc part. :3 |
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| After what was one of the worst first episodes ever to me, this show has really picked it up. Just from its strong story/plot (cause of the brilliant novel) this anime is going to be good but the past 2 epsodes had much better execution and were much enjoyable |
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| Wow! Really good and intense episode! Its getting really good now!! |
| I'm interested to see how the people at Arnus react to the refugees. |
| Really liked the episode. I dont mind the changed character designs from the manga at all. I think Rory and Pina look better in the anime. Already looking forward to next week. |
| Good thing they toned down the gore and violence in this adaptation. I prefer it like this. |
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| Gothic lolita is pretty cute and funny!! She's no. 1 so far but who knows, maybe elf girl could take the lead next episode since she didn't really have much screen time (aside from her sleeping) here. |
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vanella96 said: Newhopes said: They cut alot of the darker stuff, those bandits had just killed a family including raping the wife and young daughter. Ah, thank you for clearing that up. I was reading a bunch of comments about the cut out rape scene, but had no idea of the circumstances behind it. To be fair, even in the manga, the rape of the family wasn't actually shown, it was more implied with the naked corpses of the wife and daughter, as well as the talk between the bandits themselves. The toning down of the gore in the anime took a little getting used to, but overall I have to agree that it was necessary to get past the viewership rules. Same goes for the rape issue. I may not like it, but it was necessary unless they wanted this to be a Berserk-esque show (which I wouldn've welcomed actually). Takuan_Soho said: The manga shows the middle ages like they were, which honestly is part of its appeal. Even Game of Thrones is somewhat sanitized. The manga pulls no punches on that regard. As someone who likes history, I like that element of realism. The past was brutal, it is important to remember how brutal because it contextualizes the decisions people made back then (people like to point out the abuses the Catholic Church did in the past, what they fail to realize is that while compared to our standards today the RCC did horrible things compared to the standards of that day, the RCC was incredibly progressive). That said, having one panel in a manga is very very different from animating it. The single panel captures the horror very well, animating the scene, because it would take longer and would have to be fluid, would have a different impact. I'm of the same opinion of Takuan_Soho here. No matter how you record history, you cannot deny the brutality, the ugliness and lack of morality of people back then possessed in order to survive. That is the reality of the world, and to deny it would be to take away from the realism of a story such as this. The novel and the manga did really well in portraying human nature and the mechanics of a medieval world, where rape, murder and war for survival were rampant and villiagers and serfs were abused and manipulated for the selfish desires of those in power and those who sought power. Toning down the gore, violence and sex may have allowed them to pass a Japanese Television ratings requirement, but it definitely decreases the realistic portrayal of the show's world setting. I worry about how they're going to taunt the town defenders out to fight in the Italica Arc if they're not going to be showing . |
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| the gothic lolita is a bit unnatural to say the least Itami was enjoying the ride :> |
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| It seems like people forget that this is an adaptation not a 1:1 carbon copy. I see no benefit for viewers pleasure just to know that there was 1 rape scene and talk about necrophilia. From what I've read the anime improves upon the source material. |
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| This episode was executed and adapted very well so there's nothing much to say other than it was yet again a really good episode However, I will say that like I feared, they really downplayed the introduction scene for Rory....In the manga that scene was brutal as fuck and it really added this sense of fear, despair and just pure brutality that surrounds Rory as a character and I feel like the added gore would have made the scene 1000 times more awesome Also, I feel like them not exactly showing the bandits at least attack that family kinda made that scene underwhelming in the beginning since it seems as if she attacked them at random....Alas I understand why they had to tone it down a lot though :( |
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| Cant believe we get to see the main gurls already. ^_^ I want to see more of the other world's culture. |
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| No big surprise that the rape/murder scenes were not shown however I think they should have been a little clearer about what happened and why Rori slaughtered the bandits. It actually helps to understand just what she is (not entirely human) and how her actions are driven by the god she serves. It also would help to a set up some understanding about some of the importance of the princesses' squadron of knights and the contrast between the role of women in the Empire and in the JSDF (as you may have noticed the female soldiers in Itami's squad are among the most capable in his command). |
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| the wizard is a perv lol but why did you have to kill the horse damn |
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| After reading all this,i can't help but go and read the manga instead of the anime.I found it okay as a whole but i need the edgyness after all. |
Axelucard_ said: the wizard is a perv lol but why did you have to kill the horse damn Maybe it wasn't clear enough, but the horse was going to hit Lelei (most likely in the head), so it was either kill the horse or let it kick Lelei. This is the reason why she said "Those people.....They saved me." |
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| This anime episode by episode is awesome. Goth loli and she likes the lt. :)) |
| PG'ed the hell out of it and skipped out on a bit of content. *sigh* Well at least Rory the gothic loli was introduced. |
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vangoz said: I love her too.Finally all the fantasy girls have been introduced :) But my favorite girl is still |
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| considering rory's character roles a lot like A LOT around sex,rape and extreme deaths, i fear that her character will be toned down incredibly... but at leasct she looks good, right? |
| Lelei and Rory are finally here! And elf girl is awake, too! Red Dragon's entrance was pretty badass. I wonder if we'll meet any other Apostles like Rory. |
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amc9988Jul 18, 2015 5:24 AM
| for everybody complain about edgy stuff, and blame A1. did everybody forgot that A1 doing shinsekai yori? they can do it, but they chose not to do it. and i think most of edgy thing in manga are useless, only bandit action in villagers scane are needed, (i am manga reader from first place since then). i think they do it for make this anime more watchable for wider audience. i enjoy it anime. if you don't like it, just stuck with manga. as simple as that. i hope they also deleted useless edgy things again in trip to japan arc. |
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