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Shouldn't Final Fantasy VII Advent Children: Venice Film Festival Footage be removed as well? From what I got to understand is nothing more than a collection of clips from the movie with no new footage.

About Shugo Chara! and Naruto being merged into one entry, I would disagree with such a decision.

@Aesir- & Skadi:

I interpreted this rule as referring only to single 'series'. I granted 'series' to be shows with the exact same title, otherwise it would no longer be the same series to me, but a different one, and therefore that rule would no longer be applicable.
That's why Shugo Chara! and Naruto naturally fall outside of its effect for me.

Please correct me if I took this wrongly, but if I did the mods really need to define the rules better since then every title that has a continuation aired in less than 12 weeks after the 'first part' should be merged into a single enty, and that seems pretty illogical to me.

@Naruleach & Beatnik: The posts are there now. I'm afraid the reviews cannot be recovered though.


@TsukikageRan: We'll use synopsis or More Info tab. I agree there is no need to list them all in synonyms, as it would look rather bad and if one searches for "animatrix" one will find them all anyway.


@Alas86: We discussed it today and we decided that Sweat Punch should be merged as well.

Megazone 23 indeed feels like it should be merged. Not entirely sure about Devilman: The Birth and Devilman: The Demon Bird yet. See @Fishcat

Saber Rider stays as we don't have a separate entry for the U.S. edit. I reduced the episode count from 52 to 51 though (see More Info tab).

Dragon Ball Z (U.S.) also stays as an exception. Please read.


@GirlRanmaLover & Kamon: Good point. We somehow missed that. Won't be removed.


@Fishcat: I always like to quote AniDB's wiki on occasions like these.

...Same thing with every other database issue, such as merging.

But yes, let's not go crazy with merging. If the title indicates the OVA is a sequel/totally different arc, then there is no reason to merge. The issue with anthologies (The Animatrix, Neo Tokyo, Sweat Punch) or recap specials is *slightly* different.


@flygon250: Superflat Monogram, Superflat First Love and Hairy Tale - this issue needs to be looked into and the guidelines need to be updated accordingly. I mean, if they have a plot and they don't just mindlessly advertise, they are basically professionally produced animated shorts for a Japanese audience. Current "No trailers/ads" was meant more to deal with trailers/ads for the upcoming anime shows.

Makai Senki Disgaea - Trailer - while it's called trailer, structurally it's more like an introductory episode. The most important thing about it is that it contains non-recycled animation. Normal trailers are just compilations of the scenes that will be used in the show later. Just like the recently released Black Rock Shooter Pilot. They call it a pilot, but in reality it's just a trailer without a plot made from the scenes that will be used in the upcoming show (of course there is a chance they won't use those scenes later, but it looks highly unlikely to me after seeing it). Please notice we deliberately didn't use the word "promo" when we said what's not allowed. If it's a promo made from non-recycled animation then it can be considered an introductory episode/special.

Dengeki Bunko 2007 Movie Festival Special - see Skadi's post.

Health With Little Red Riding Hood - Seems like it. Will be removed.

Cardcaptor Sakura - All right, the current rule about splitting the seasons was written because of the issue mentioned here. So it's there to deal with the recent seasons splitting. We're not going to split Cardcaptor Sakura, because it doesn't make much sense at this point. We may need to indicate in the guidelines that it's an exception.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes - won't be split, we don't plan to adapt the seasons rule for OVA series. See also Alas86's and Mr_Panda's posts.


@Aesir-: Shugo Chara - see Skadi's & radiantfire's posts. If the creators add a new title and say it's a new season then it'll get a new entry. But you're right, at the moment there isn't anything about such cases in the guidelines. We will add it.

FMA - Chibi Party is the special of the movie, so it doesn't belong there, however merging Kids, Seven Homunculi and Reflections makes sense as they all are specials of the TV series. They'll most likely be merged.


@SpellBinder: Indeed. Will be removed.


@Sobzob: These are theatrical releases. Won't be merged.


@Mr_Panda: As you already know, The Hobbit issue has been addressed here.


@Yup: Ultimately it wasn't released in Japan. And you're saying it was "marketed towards the Japanese market, and was a failure", however from what I can see the production was planned for the US market from the beginning. I can understand all the points you provide, though unfortunately the plot isn't the most important thing when it comes to defining the database. The background of the entry is what counts.


@JCDRANZER: Please stop assuming things.

Regarding the commercials, see @flygon250

Daicon Opening Animations won't be deleted. While they could have been made unprofessionally at first, the authors got critically acclaimed later. Meaning the entry isn't against the guidelines.

Dengeki Bunko 2007 won't be deleted as well, see @flygon250.

And Shugo Chara won't be merged, see @Aesir-.


@Loxaris: Venice Film Festival Footage special can be considered a recap episode. It was also released on DVD.

And yes, you interpreted that rule correctly.


Thank you for your posts everyone!

May I ask a question?
Where the hell is Xinil with all of this?

What exactly does he even do these days?

Here is another anthology that should be merged:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2504/The_Cockpit:_Knight_of_the_Iron_Dragon
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2500/The_Cockpit:_Slipstream
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2502/The_Cockpit:_Sonic_Boom_Squadron

@SEACATS: I'm not going to speak for Xinil, but he participated in the discussion regarding the guidelines that was going on in the staff club. Some modifications were also applied to the guidelines after asking him about his opinion. And as stated in the announcement about the guidelines: he read and approved them. So yes, he's completely aware.

@Alas86: Thanks. Should be merged indeed.

I am thinking that The Big O should be split into two separate entries, as there seems to be almost three years between the end of the first season and the beginning of the second season, at least according to AniDB.

I dont think the length of time matters, what's important is the intent behind the production. Was it meant to be a 26 episode series or not? If it was, then just leave it alone.

I feel like MAL is melting down into insanity. Is it so hard to just copy ANN or IMDB?

After watching the Devilman OVAs I still stand by my suggestion that the first two can safely be merged.

@flygon250: The Big O won't be split, for the same reason as Cardcaptor Sakura.

@Beatnik: Funny that someone wanted us to copy AniDB already in this very thread. Every site is different, isn't it. For example, coping ANN with everything would mean allowing live-action... Now that would be insane.

@Alas86: Still, correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand both OVAs have been released under different titles, meaning Devilman: The Birth and Devilman: The Demon Bird, not Devilman OVA Part/Episode/Chapter I and II. Merging such instances doesn't feel right, for the reason Fishcat proved in her reply to you on the first page.

Those could very well be the episodes' titles, like ANN says, they both say Devilman: Sth... but I don't think that's so important anyway not when the first two OVAs are so close and tight storywise that considering them seperate entities doesn't make much sense especially in the context of those new guidelines. Anyway it doesn't really matter to me, its one entry... I'm just saying.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101

Explain.

The Dirge of Cerberus entry was just a collection of "in-game" cutscenes, put together, which is why it was ousted. What is meant by "episodes bundled with games" is say, if you buy a video game and as a bonus, an anime episode came along with it, be it on the same disc or on a separate disc, that contained completely new content that was not featured in the game itself.

I think the mods were referring to OVAs that get bundled with video games. I believe this is how Mars of Destruction came into existence (correct me if I am wrong.)

These OVAs must have new, original footage and not be made up of content from the game, such as cutscenes. At least, this how I interpret it.

And we are all so grateful about that huh? :P

Ok here is yet another anthology to merge:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2477/Amazing_Nuts!:_Glass_Eye
http://myanimelist.net/anime/1998/Amazing_Nuts!:_Global_Astroliner_Gou
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2478/Amazing_Nuts!:_Joe_and_Marilyn
http://myanimelist.net/anime/1997/Amazing_Nuts!:_Kung-Fu_Love

Still feel the same way I did when I split Neo Tokoy, Memories, the Animatrix and many of the other anthologies way I did when I was putting them in.

Their stories, animation and style are so widely contrating that it is hard to lump them together for the purposes of the rating system.

+ 100

Anthology is a collection of something. I want to judge anime, not collection of them.

That is very true for purposes of rating but for a list... imagine this already :

Ayakashi-Japanese Classic Horror - 3
Ani*Kuri 15 - 15
Digital Juice - 6
Genius Party - 7
Genius Party Beyond - 5
Robot Carnival - 9
Sweat Punch - 5

6 titles in all. If we go by what you said (it is a valid argument in terms of rating), we'd have more than 40 separate titles. Add in Neo Tokyo (3), Memories (3), Amazing Nuts (4), and Animatrix (8) - add them all up - 60 + possible entries for 10 titles.

I don't like bloating my list. I suggest that the individual episodes or arcs be listed in the additional info or in the main synopsis as they are anthologies. Perhaps in the 'More Info,' individual arcs/episodes have their own synopsis so that anyone can check if they have seen the story in the said listed title. Users can certainly add the synopsis for these.

Oh no! 70 entries in my anime list. Run for your life!

Dragon Ball Z Movies - 13 titles
Pokemon Movies - 12 titles
Lets put them together into 1 entry, becouse "I don't like bloating my list" :S. Don't Discriminate short films only becouse they are short and so mostly release in anthology.

If it were up to me...yes. One title for everything related. All Dragonballs, GITShell, Clannad, One Piece...yes. Everything related to the franchise.(ñ_ñ)

But, it's not up to me.(U_U) Lucky you.(^-^)b

Ha Ha. Indeed Im lucky XD.

I think we should search for compromise and be more creative . Maybe some new options like "group up"/"show as separate titles" would satisfy both sides.