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Jul 5, 2015 2:34 AM
#51
keragamming said: Snk is ranked #8 as best sold disc sales in anime history. And I don't remember seeing code geass even in the top 10. Correct me if I'm wrong. No, it's from 2000 and above. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:35 AM
#52
Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Yeah even if we use MAL, Code Geass is less popular.Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK so I don't even know why I'm bothering in the first place. http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity Yes and Naruto is in 6th and One Piece is 25th, lol. Shows how credible it is if we compare it worldwide. Well, I'm not surprised in here to be honest. As long as I was inactive, I see a lot of new anime fans like yourself have increased in MAL, while shows like Code Geass aired years way before, so I see how SnK has more "fans" on MAL. |
AmphetamineJul 5, 2015 2:38 AM
Jul 5, 2015 2:43 AM
#53
Amphetamine said: keragamming said: Amphetamine said: Agafin said: http://www.someanithing.com/1 or any other site where you can find anime sales. Attack on Titan - 52,052 Code Geass - 45,385 + 2nd Season 42,690 = 88,075 in terms of sales according to that website anyway. So by comparison, yes, Code Geass has more "disc" sales than SnK. Anyway like someone mentioned already, disc sales don't mean shit in overall popularity but this case is an expection. Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK so I don't even know why I'm bothering in the first place. All of a sudden mal ratings does matter? Or only when its convenient for you? When did I ever say they don't matter? And I'm not talking about MAL only it's pretty much everywhere. Yea sure, but what does that have to do with popularity? By your logic the series that's rated the highest will be the most popular. Snk has better ratings than dbz pretty much everywhere, does that make snk more popular than dbz? @tsudecimo. Oh, my bad. |
keragammingJul 5, 2015 2:48 AM
Jul 5, 2015 2:45 AM
#54
Amphetamine said: Well, I'm not surprised in here to be honest. As long as I was inactive, I see a lot of new anime fans like yourself have increased in MAL, while shows like Code Geass aired years way before, so I see how SnK has more "fans" on MAL. There is no accurate way to gauge the popularity of the two outside Japan. But Attack on titan boom in popularity was pretty big in the US, reaching mainstream level status. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:45 AM
#55
Amphetamine said: Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK so I don't even know why I'm bothering in the first place. http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity Yes and Naruto is in 6th and One Piece is 25th, lol. Shows how credible it is if we compare it worldwide. Well, I'm not surprised in here to be honest. As long as I was inactive, I see a lot of new anime fans like yourself have increased in MAL, while shows like Code Geass aired years way before, so I see how SnK has more "fans" on MAL. One Piece is not very popular in the west so that's understandable. And you're the one who brought in MAL so don't backpedal. Wait a minute, popularity=/=quality. I'm not saying I prefer AoT over Code Geass, just that it's more popular. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:52 AM
#56
keragamming said: Snk is ranked #8 as best sold disc sales in anime history. And I don't remember seeing code geass even in the top 10. Correct me if I'm wrong. It will most likely move to 7th since it's been closing the gap with Fate Zero lately. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:53 AM
#57
keragamming said: Kai currently dominates SNK in Toonami ratings. http://toonami.wikia.com/wiki/Toonami_RatingsSnk has better ratings than dbz pretty much everywhere, does that make snk more popular than dbz? |
Jul 5, 2015 2:53 AM
#58
Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Yeah even if we use MAL, Code Geass is less popular.Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK so I don't even know why I'm bothering in the first place. http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity Yes and Naruto is in 6th and One Piece is 25th, lol. Shows how credible it is if we compare it worldwide. Well, I'm not surprised in here to be honest. As long as I was inactive, I see a lot of new anime fans like yourself have increased in MAL, while shows like Code Geass aired years way before, so I see how SnK has more "fans" on MAL. One Piece is not very popular in the west so that's understandable. And you're the one who brought in MAL so don't backpedal. Wait a minute, popularity=/=quality. I'm not saying I prefer AoT over Code Geass, just that it's more popular. One Piece ain't popular in the west? Wait, what? You're kidding, right? So shit like Toradora, Angel Beats, Mirai Nikki etc are more popular than One Piece in the west? It's just that newer users don't bother watching One Piece which is 600+ episodes long, so it wouldn't mark on their list most likely despite they knowing about it or at one point they used to watch it on television or whatever, but I can assure you it has always been more popular. And I didn't bring up MAL, I just said Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK and then some random started talking about the MAL shit, so obviously I responded, lol. But yeah, I agree this is a popularity thread not a rating thread, if it was we wouldn't be discussing this since the answer is obvious. I also like SnK by the way, I ain't hating on it. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:57 AM
#59
DrGeroCreation said: keragamming said: Kai currently dominates SNK in Toonami ratings. http://toonami.wikia.com/wiki/Toonami_RatingsSnk has better ratings than dbz pretty much everywhere, does that make snk more popular than dbz? I was Talking about score ratings actually..... |
Jul 5, 2015 2:58 AM
#60
DrGeroCreation said: keragamming said: Kai currently dominates SNK in Toonami ratings. http://toonami.wikia.com/wiki/Toonami_RatingsSnk has better ratings than dbz pretty much everywhere, does that make snk more popular than dbz? He meant rating as in 'score' in various sites, not tv. And those AoT episodes are reruns btw, the first run reached 1.5 million. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:59 AM
#61
My bad. When I see ratings I immediately think tv ratings. Agafin said: All Kai episodes are technically reruns and Kai reached above 1.5 million on February 21st 2015.And those AoT episodes are reruns btw, the first run reached 1.5 million. |
DrGeroCreationJul 5, 2015 3:46 AM
Jul 5, 2015 3:04 AM
#62
Well to be fair, the Toonami tv ratings don't show that much The most watched is always the one which aired the earliest Doesn't matter if it's Space Dandy, Bleach, Kai or AoT, it if's aired first it's going to have the most views and most of the times it's around the same amount too |
Jul 5, 2015 3:07 AM
#63
Yu Yu Hakusho shouln't be on this list. It's not THAT popular in the west, it really isn't. |
Jul 5, 2015 3:10 AM
#64
Amphetamine said: Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Yeah even if we use MAL, Code Geass is less popular.Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK so I don't even know why I'm bothering in the first place. http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity Yes and Naruto is in 6th and One Piece is 25th, lol. Shows how credible it is if we compare it worldwide. Well, I'm not surprised in here to be honest. As long as I was inactive, I see a lot of new anime fans like yourself have increased in MAL, while shows like Code Geass aired years way before, so I see how SnK has more "fans" on MAL. One Piece is not very popular in the west so that's understandable. And you're the one who brought in MAL so don't backpedal. Wait a minute, popularity=/=quality. I'm not saying I prefer AoT over Code Geass, just that it's more popular. One Piece ain't popular in the west? Wait, what? You're kidding, right? So shit like Toradora, Angel Beats, Mirai Nikki etc are more popular than One Piece in the west? It's just that newer users don't bother watching One Piece which is 600+ episodes long, so it wouldn't mark on their list most likely despite they knowing about it or at one point they used to watch it on television or whatever, but I can assure you it has always been more popular. And I didn't bring up MAL, I just said Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK and then some random started talking about the MAL shit, so obviously I responded, lol. But yeah, I agree this is a popularity thread not a rating thread, if it was we wouldn't be discussing this since the answer is obvious. I also like SnK by the way, I ain't hating on it. Well, it is popular in France and some parts of Europe and Latin America but not even close to Naruto or DBZ. I agree with the rest though (of the first paragraph). |
Jul 5, 2015 8:57 AM
#65
Jonas_The_Jay said: Yu Yu Hakusho shouln't be on this list. It's not THAT popular in the west, it really isn't. Togashi can live the rest of his life in luxury just with the US royalties let alone the rest of the world. Bleach should be above one piece, yyh, and aot too. Carrying Toonami on it's back when it started up again speaks for itself. |
ichii_1Jul 5, 2015 9:03 AM
Jul 5, 2015 9:37 AM
#66
I'd be very surprised if there weren't any Ghibli movies up there. Yet noone has even mentioned them yet. |
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Jul 5, 2015 11:59 AM
#67
I dont know about popularity and I dont care about it. The thing is you must enjoy it and Death Note, Code Geass, Hunter X Hunter are awesome |
Jul 5, 2015 12:07 PM
#68
Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Agafin said: Amphetamine said: Yeah even if we use MAL, Code Geass is less popular.Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK so I don't even know why I'm bothering in the first place. http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity Yes and Naruto is in 6th and One Piece is 25th, lol. Shows how credible it is if we compare it worldwide. Well, I'm not surprised in here to be honest. As long as I was inactive, I see a lot of new anime fans like yourself have increased in MAL, while shows like Code Geass aired years way before, so I see how SnK has more "fans" on MAL. One Piece is not very popular in the west so that's understandable. And you're the one who brought in MAL so don't backpedal. Wait a minute, popularity=/=quality. I'm not saying I prefer AoT over Code Geass, just that it's more popular. One Piece ain't popular in the west? Wait, what? You're kidding, right? So shit like Toradora, Angel Beats, Mirai Nikki etc are more popular than One Piece in the west? It's just that newer users don't bother watching One Piece which is 600+ episodes long, so it wouldn't mark on their list most likely despite they knowing about it or at one point they used to watch it on television or whatever, but I can assure you it has always been more popular. And I didn't bring up MAL, I just said Code Geass is way more highly rated than SnK and then some random started talking about the MAL shit, so obviously I responded, lol. But yeah, I agree this is a popularity thread not a rating thread, if it was we wouldn't be discussing this since the answer is obvious. I also like SnK by the way, I ain't hating on it. Well, it is popular in France and some parts of Europe and Latin America but not even close to Naruto or DBZ. I agree with the rest though (of the first paragraph). Guys GUys why are u guys comparing two Master Piece anime |
Jul 5, 2015 12:21 PM
#69
And I thought this post would get locked a long time ago... |
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Jul 5, 2015 12:30 PM
#70
Pointless. Japan more than makes up for the rest of the world. In that case, it would be: 1. Sazae San 2. Chibi Maruko-Chan 3. Crayon Shin-Chan 4. Doraemon 5. Detective Conan 6. One Piece 7. DBZ Kai 8. Pokemon Things like FT, Naruto or Bleach don't even factor in. Lol at anyone thinking YYH is anywhere near this list. There is no way to account for popularity among different countries, unless someone has the figures for: 1. List of anime by most number of countries aired in. 2. Ratings per country. Going by IMDB's figures, the series most popular among users are: 1. Death Note 2. DBZ 3. Cowboy Bebop 4. Attack on Titan 5. Naruto 6. FMA 7. One Piece 8. Bleach |
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Jul 5, 2015 12:46 PM
#71
RedRoseFring said: Pointless. Japan more than makes up for the rest of the world. In that case, it would be: ??? Japan is not the only country where millions of people watch these shows you know http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_anime_going_strong_in_India http://www.indiantelevision.com/television/tv-channels/kids/new-formats-bear-fruit-for-disney-hungama-this-summer-140623 |
Jul 5, 2015 12:53 PM
#72
TheNextChamp said: RedRoseFring said: Pointless. Japan more than makes up for the rest of the world. In that case, it would be: ??? Japan is not the only country where millions of people watch these shows you know http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_anime_going_strong_in_India http://www.indiantelevision.com/television/tv-channels/kids/new-formats-bear-fruit-for-disney-hungama-this-summer-140623 Never said it is. What I said is that it makes up for most of those other countries. |
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Jul 5, 2015 1:49 PM
#73
Yu Yu Hakusho also managed to surpass Dragon Ball Z in ratings during its TV run. YYH had more TV ratings than One Piece. One Piece isn't even in the top 100, if it's Japan all time www.nendai-ryuukou.com/article/110.html TheNextChamp said: ??? Japan is not the only country where millions of people watch these shows you know France + China + Philippines + India + US + Middle east combined probably have more viewership than Japan in specific titles. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:45 PM
#75
tsudecimo said: FT above Death note? I don't think so. I think your top 5 are fairly accurate, except for one piece. I don't think Japan's popularity make up for the lack of it worldwide. It's TV ratings in japan are in the 7-10% range currently, and 10-16% at it's peak. This is Japan's top: http://nendai-ryuukou.com/article/110.html Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragonball D: Ya, your right. Death Note is more popular than Fairy tail, I meant to fix it but I forgot. But you also have to take into account merchandise sales including manga sales because that is representative of a show's popularity (ie. Pokemon). So while One Piece tv ratings are not that high, its manga sales and merchandise sales help spread its popularity a lot. Look at Pokemon, Yu-gi-Oh, Beyblade, etc... Also, for a show to obtain a high tv rating like Dr.Slump did in its prime is almost impossible now because back then anime wasn't as popular and there was less competition whereas now we have around 40-50 anime airing. So there is no way Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragon Ball without even taking into account its worldwide status. |
Jul 5, 2015 2:54 PM
#76
tsudecimo said: TheNextChamp said: ??? Japan is not the only country where millions of people watch these shows you know France + China + Philippines + India + US + Middle east combined probably have more viewership than Japan in specific titles. You don't even need to combine them, India alone is enough with 1 billion people living there If these links are right, pokémon is getting 35+ (and now even 57 million) million views in India this one even that it already reached to about 96.9 million individuals |
ChampJul 5, 2015 3:02 PM
Jul 5, 2015 2:55 PM
#77
Toucanbird said: If we're talking historically... 1. Pokemon - I'll give you this one. The video game franchise is probably more popular than the anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't a beloved audience for the anime. 2. Cowboy Bebop - I'm appalled that you forgot this one, OP. Cowboy Bebop was one of the biggest reasons why we even have anime here in the west. This series seemed to SPAWN popularity for the anime in the west. 3. Fullmetal Alchemist - You've got to have this higher, OP. The FMA series has had a PROFOUND impact on the west, with Brotherhood even reviving the popularity even more. 4. Naruto - Ugh, as much as I hate to say it, I have to agree with you on this. Naruto is insanely popular...for whatever reason... 5. Dragonball/Z/GT - You really could go 4a and 4b on Naruto and Dragonball, since I think they've both made enormous impacts on the west in much different ways. I gave Naruto the edge, but that shouldn't be a slight at Dragonball. 6. Yu-Gi-Oh! - Again, I'll give you this one. It is insanely popular for whatever reason. 7. Death Note - You need to have this one WAY higher, OP. Death Note really left its mark. 8. Neon Genesis Evangelion - Maybe a lot of you are too young, but this series left an ENORMOUS impact on fans here in the west back in the day. Hell, a lot of anime fans at the time thought it was the greatest anime ever made. I don't feel that sentiment and I'll even honestly admit that I hate the series and movie...so much so that I downright refuse to watch the rebuilds. Still, you gotta have it on the list in regards to popularity in the west. 9. Ghost In The Shell/Innocence/Stand Alone Complex - The Ghost In The Shell franchise was essentially the staple series in regards to sci-fi popularity hitting the west in the late 90s/early 2000s. The Ghost in the Shell movie was iconic and it spawned a GITS:SAC series that was insanely popular here in the early to mid 2000s. Of course, the GITS franchise has fallen off a bit in recent years because there has been more of a "moe" movement in anime over the last 10 years. Still, you have to keep it in mind since it did spawn anime popularity in the west. 10. Gundam Seed - The Gundam franchise has had its moments of insane popularity in the west. Of course, its popularity didn't take off for quite a while, as I'd argue the Gundam franchise was pretty prevalent in Japan for about 20 years before you started seeing it take off here stateside. That isn't to say the original Gundam anime (MSG, Zeta, ZZ) didn't have its merits, but I don't think it spawned the popularity. I would argue that Gundam Wing might have started the interest in Gundam in the west, but I'd say the series that really took off here in the west and started the Gundam craze was Gundam Seed. Back in the early 2000s, it was EXTREMELY popular. While I'd say Gundam might have fallen off in recent years, during the early 2000s, it did receive quite a following here in the west. 11. Attack On Titan - This one I should probably put higher because if we're talking more modern, there is no anime more popular than this one right now. Attack On Titan was just such a flash in the pan series, it seemed like it went from "what is that?" to "holy shit, how awesome is this!?" to "meh, is the second season here yet?" mentality. All of the anime I have ahead of it with the exception of maybe Pokemon are concluded whereas AoT has SO MUCH left to adapt and tell. I think by the time the series is said and done, it will be MUCH higher on the list. 12. Bleach - Its really dropped off here in recent years, but in the mid to late 2000s, it had a HUGE following. In fact, it was my favorite anime for a few years...until it went off the rails with the Bount arc and everything that followed. It's still here, I just don't think its all that prevalent. 13. One Piece - Yeah, I'm putting it way down here. Why? Because until recent years, it wasn't necessarily taking off here in the west. Hell, I remember when the series started showing on Toonami back in the mid 2000s. People fucking hated it. It possessed a lot of that Japanese quirkiness people are a bit turned off of and not to mention people HATED the voice acting, specifically Luffy. It does seem to be gaining some traction here in the west now, but it sure took a while. Series like Naruto and Bleach are shounen series that had an easier time taking off here in the west. 14. Clannad - While Clannad has its audience, I think we sometimes undermine just how much popularity it has received here in the west. Whenever the words "drama" and "romance" are thrown around, I always got directed to Clannad amongst anime fans. Of course, they aren't genres that perform remarkably well here in the west, but Clannad sure left its mark. 15. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - This is another series that I feel I'm shafting putting down at 15. The series was insanely popular in its time and I think Kill la Kill only reminded people just how impactful this series was in the west. 16. Digimon - While Pokemon was a beloved, Digimon in the early 2000s was profoundly popular here in the west. Hell, the new movie coming out this fall flipped a lot of oldtaku into a frenzy. Digimon, in my opinion, left a big impact on influential kids anime here in the west. 17. Fairy Tail - Is this popular in the west now? I hear it kinda is, but I haven't really caught up on it. 18. Sword Art Online - Seems to be kinda popular here. 19. Beyblade - I think you have to drop this WAY down to here, OP. While it is a popular kids toy/series, this series doesn't go beyond anything beyond that. Hell, it seems like more people would rather forget about this one... 20. Trigun/Outlaw Star/Yu Yu Hakusho - For nostalgia's sake I think you could mention Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, but I'm not sure exactly where they would fall on the list. i don't agree that Cowboy Bebop is more popular than Dragon Ball. Not even close. One factor I based my list off of was, when I didn't watch anime or even had the slightest clue of what it was about, which ones did I still know about. If you ask people whether you know Fullmetal Alchemist or Cowboy Bebop they will have no clue what you are talking about but if I ask them whether they know Naruto, Yu-gi-Oh, Dragon Ball, Beyblade, etc... they will know because in their eyes, they think of them as regular cartoons. |
Jul 5, 2015 3:05 PM
#78
eta101 said: . But you also have to take into account merchandise sales including manga sales because that is representative of a show's popularity (ie. Pokemon). So while One Piece tv ratings are not that high, its manga sales and merchandise sales help spread its popularity a lot. Look at Pokemon, Yu-gi-Oh, Beyblade, etc... Also, for a show to obtain a high tv rating like Dr.Slump did in its prime is almost impossible now because back then anime wasn't as popular and there was less competition whereas now we have around 40-50 anime airing. So there is no way Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragon Ball without even taking into account its worldwide status. You are talking about anime popularity. Not franchise popularity. What are you even talking about, Dragonball aired after Dr.Slump they aired at the same time period. Dr.Slump (1981-1986) Dragonball (1986-1989) |
Jul 5, 2015 3:13 PM
#79
RedRoseFring said: Pointless. Japan more than makes up for the rest of the world. In that case, it would be: 1. Sazae San 2. Chibi Maruko-Chan 3. Crayon Shin-Chan 4. Doraemon 5. Detective Conan 6. One Piece 7. DBZ Kai 8. Pokemon Things like FT, Naruto or Bleach don't even factor in. Lol at anyone thinking YYH is anywhere near this list. There is no way to account for popularity among different countries, unless someone has the figures for: 1. List of anime by most number of countries aired in. 2. Ratings per country. Going by IMDB's figures, the series most popular among users are: 1. Death Note 2. DBZ 3. Cowboy Bebop 4. Attack on Titan 5. Naruto 6. FMA 7. One Piece 8. Bleach Lol, you just took your first list straight from Japan's recent tv ratings. And Japan doesn't more than make up for the rest of the world. There many instances where the west has a higher amount of sales in terms of anime merchandise than Japan. That is not even factoring other countries. Plus, by just looking at TV ratings doesn't do One Piece justice as most of its popularity stems from the manga which is the best selling manga of all time. To say the manga can't be included as factor to measure its popularity would be stupid because most popular anime doesn't get popular from its anime like Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade, etc... |
Jul 5, 2015 3:25 PM
#80
tsudecimo said: eta101 said: . But you also have to take into account merchandise sales including manga sales because that is representative of a show's popularity (ie. Pokemon). So while One Piece tv ratings are not that high, its manga sales and merchandise sales help spread its popularity a lot. Look at Pokemon, Yu-gi-Oh, Beyblade, etc... Also, for a show to obtain a high tv rating like Dr.Slump did in its prime is almost impossible now because back then anime wasn't as popular and there was less competition whereas now we have around 40-50 anime airing. So there is no way Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragon Ball without even taking into account its worldwide status. You are talking about anime popularity. Not franchise popularity. What are you even talking about, Dragonball aired after Dr.Slump they aired at the same time period. Dr.Slump (1981-1986) Dragonball (1986-1989) I'm using it as representation of its popularity. It would be silly not to include it as a factor of its popularity. Most people who know the One Piece manga are likely to be familiar with the anime. Not necessarily watch it but know of it which makes it popular. As for Dr.Slump, it achieved its highest airing in 1981 whereas Dragon Ball was around the anime boom (The Golden Age) and it still managed to place close to Dr.Slump. Plus, using this list as definitive representation of which anime is the most popular would be stupid simply from the fact that you are using this list to argue Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragon Ball which everyone knows is false. |
Jul 5, 2015 3:30 PM
#81
Well this is pointless, you clearly don't get the difference between anime and franchise. And it seems you played some logic aerobatics with the second paragraph. |
Jul 5, 2015 3:30 PM
#82
If what you mean popular in this thread is how well known it is worldwide than it is Pokemon, Dragon Ball and One Piece. reason is simple, they've been around for long and had a pretty big fanbase. Since I rarely met someone who actually didn't live under a stone that didn't know about this franchise. Or, If what you mean popular is the one that's made the most money than it's One Piece, Dragon Ball or AoT. And in terms of sales of One Piece, Japan alone is enough to make up for the lack of money they got from outside Japan. |
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Jul 5, 2015 3:46 PM
#83
tsudecimo said: Well this is pointless, you clearly don't get the difference between anime and franchise. And it seems you played some logic aerobatics with the second paragraph. I know difference between anime and franchise quite well. I think your having trouble understanding the word popularity. In case you didn't know because clearly you don't, by popularity I mean how many people know of a certain anime. So, just because One Piece doesn't achieve super high ratings, doesn't mean it is not one of the most popular anime in Japan and I have already stated the reasons why it is still so popular despite its low ratings. And please explain what you mean by "logic aerobatics" in the second paragraph? I'm actually curious as to why you think Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragon Ball. I can't take you seriously just from the fact you think Dr.Slump is more popular than Dragon Ball. |
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