World Trigger Episode 37 Discussion

Vindstot said:
Kuga and Osamu's conversation at the rooftop was nice. Good to know Replica is still alive. So, when are they heading to Aftokrator? After the B-Rank tournament?

Vindstot said:
The press conference got heated up quite a bit towards the end. Pretty shrewd of them to try to find a connection between the Neighbor assault at school from last months and the Aftokrator having prior info on C-Ranks, putting all blame on Osamu in process.

Mirality said:

Probably. Yuma and Chika need to advance to B-rank first, at least, and then possibly all three of them to A-rank. (B-ranks are allowed on away missions but A-ranks are more likely to be selected.)


Except in a prior episode I'm pretty sure it was revealed that the discovery was when everyone was cleaning up after those little mini-portal bugs. I think the C-ranks helped in that too? So blaming it on Osamu is wrong, but I guess it gives a chance for him to stand up for himself next episode, so that's not a bad thing.

p-kun said:
B-ranks are not allowed for away missions. Even for A-ranks, not all of them are allowed, only the best of the best.

It was indeed Osamu's fault (though he cannot have foreseen it). In one of the previous episode, the neighbors discussed that they knew about this when Osamu fought the school attackers and got his trion body destroyed. It was revealed that Osamu had no bailout. If you remember at that time, had Osamu been humble and asked Yuuma for help, the school would have been saved without having this fact revealed. Osamu thought of asking Yuuma, but decided not to because he didn't want to retract his previous statement when he nagged at Yuuma not to use triggers. With hindsight, Osamu's reluctance to retract his admonishment to Yuuma cost the 32 agents. The cleaning of the rad only told the neighbors the maximum amount of C-ranks they could kidnap, not the fact that they had no bail out.

In short Osamu is just taking responsibility as he should be. Osamu's fault is also Border's fault because Border decided to hire him and to commend him for break the rules (employee's fault, especially one that he committed under the company's name, is the company's fault after all). It is implied that Border rejected Osamu but later Jin decided to give Osamu favoritism so he could get into border. So it's indirectly Jin's fault. Again Jin's fault is also Border's fault because Jin is under Border and taking responsibility of subordinate's mistake is what higher ups are for.

More interestingly, where did this rad that observed Osamu come from? If you backtrack to episode 1, Yuuma killing the trion soldier and running away without cleaning the corpse allowed rads inside it to spread. Gates opening outside restricted zone started after that. So, it's also indirectly Yuuma's fault.

In short, this whole arc is about Border and the main characters cleaning up their mistakes. Though without hindsight bias, there's no way any of them knew that such small decisions culminate into such big problems. But what a big mistake it becomes, and they have to fix it.

Ajunky said:
... Of course, if Border behaved like a proper army, there would be few chances for heroics... it's hard to write a shounen like that. XD

tetrix1993 said:
I thought Osamu's mum gonna say something important to him (like I told you not to join Border), but no. She just visited him. lol

Mirality said:

Probably. Yuma and Chika need to advance to B-rank first, at least, and then possibly all three of them to A-rank. (B-ranks are allowed on away missions but A-ranks are more likely to be selected.)

Ajunky said:
In this specific case, Border shouldn't let trainees take their triggers home... it's kinda stupid if you think about it.

It would probably be even more sensible not to let them out of Border's facilities at all until they complete their training or are turned away, but I guess it's a compromise as they are taking students.

Ajunky said:
Anyway and on a related note, Border putting the blame on one of their own agents is as bad idea as it gets.

To begin with, they are admitting their own failure to control them, which is far more worrisome than casualties in the line of duty, their public image would get worse instead of better, and this is without considering the aggravation caused by Border rewarding the rulebreaking, like you mentioned.

Ajunky said:
And even a further consequence is indirectly telling the public that it's ok to chew them off for being anything short of perfect, and that they can hold them accountable for any damage caused by an enemy that could have wipe out the city's population.

I mean, there was not a single civilian casualty on a home invasion, how can Border fold hands when they have that not negligible accomplishment?

... Of course, if Border behaved like a proper army, there would be few chances for heroics... it's hard to write a shounen like that. XD

5596050 said:
Hardly saw any filler in this episode the Award segment itself was part of the manga, though depending on where you read it some of the information was removed.

Marthgun said:
but i wonder if they can really do it in 13 episodes? I would hope so. the battle of the bridge is gonig to be awesome to watch.

p-kun said:

In short, most Border rules have good reasons behind them. Had Osamu not have MC plot armors (called Yuuma and Replica), he would have died back then when he broke the rules and the backlash against Border would have been massive.

Marthgun said:

but i wonder if they can really do it in 13 episodes? I would hope so. the battle of the bridge is gonig to be awesome to watch.

m-i-c-h-a-e-l said:
Hopefully the rest of the series isnt just more political shit within Border.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:



Mind telling me why only Osamu has MC plot armor and the other MC's don't? Osamu broke the rules for a good reason and the changes in border after that incident has been fairly positive. Border wouldn't have gotten any backlash if the public found out that a lot of students died/got kidnapped because C- rank agents aren't allowed to use triggers because rules...............right?

p-kun said:
I believe that Border allows the C-ranks to take home their triggers so they have means to run away when targeted by neighbors. A few of the C-ranks joined Border because they were targeted like Chika in the first place. For example, Midorikawa. They need this trigger so they can run away when attacked until Border's combat force arrive. In fact all border personnel even the engineers are given triggers for that purpose (this is mentioned during the invasion). That said, none of these self defense triggers are good for combats, unlike triggers which are given to B and A ranks. Which is why there's a rule for C-ranks against fighting, which Osamu broke.

p-kun said:
What I mean by plot armor is that if the C-rank who wanted to save the students was not Osamu, Yuuma would not even bother to save that C-rank because he doesn't care (this is what I mean by Osamu's plot armor - Osamu is special because Yuuma cares about him). The C-rank would die and the students would be kidnapped anyway. When making its rules, Border takes into account situation of regular C-ranks, not situation of a special C-rank who has plot armor. This is what I mean by Border usually has good reasons behind its rules.

GenT-san said:
What was Yuuma trying to imply when he said "It feels to me like it's been 6 months or so since I joined Border" on Fun Facts segment?

Ajunky said:

Interesting. My own conclusion was that their own trion is what needs to regenerate before they could use triggers efficiently again, it didn't occur to me that triggers worked as capacitors. I guess I wasn't paying enough attention.

Even so, it still is not a great excuse. I remember them having training triggers that could be used right away when Chika and Yuuma joined Border (or seemingly right away anyway). Also, unless I misunderstood something, they have trion generators at the facilities, so they probably could charge the triggers with that. Maybe it's just more cost efficient to have users charge their own triggers, but not necessary.

As for weeding out, independently of their failure to enforce, it implies that it's expected that some will break the rule. It shows that Border underestimated the value of that particular secret and sacrified it for recruit evaluation. The leak is thoroughly an executive mistake.

Stark700 said:
No new episode this week.

Stark700 said:
No new episode this week.