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Which sequel surpassed your expectations?
Jun 22, 2015 2:56 PM
#1
To balance it out, this is the the sister thread of the 'most disappointing sequels' topic I made last night. At first I wasn't going to make it since it's far harder to find superior sequels (and more subjective than with heavily flawed, lowly rated series) when A) most sequels on MAL have high(er) ratings by default and B) there really aren't THAT many direct sequels in any medium that better the original. The only real exception to this, usually, is in the final season of a show when it reaches its climax / provides a conclusion. A good number listed here fall into this category. As with the other thread, PLEASE DON'T just post 'i lik dis more'. This thread needs strong opinions for me to be able to add titles to the poll since rating averages won't help guide me past ignorance. So far I have only added series that I know, based on the huge rating increases, are better... or titles that are generally regarded as simply being better by fans, as well as those I personally think are better. If you like S2/3/4/5/6/7 more than what came before, TELL ME WHY. Otherwise, this won't work. Also: rather than voting 'Other', it'd be better for you to post explaining why I should add your anime to the poll: withhold your vote until I am able to update. The same rules apply as before: one individual poll entry per franchise and just don't lazily spam. I'm open to suggestions and will edit the poll. That's all. ------- For me, this is a tough call. It's between Birdy Decode S2, Full Metal Panic (TSR) and KOR: Summer's Beginning. Banner of the Stars II and Garden of Sinners 5 are also up there in my head. Birdy is an especially rare case because its first season was rather forgettable and average. Then the second season came with an OP I still can't get out of my head/the way the lead walking in-sync with the music, and it treated what happened in S1 as borderline filler. It explored the titular heroine with a subplot involving a love interest of hers that humanised her, had time rewinding intensity (one if the best sequences in anime, even) and finished with sakuga animation YESSS action. I didn't believe the reviews going into that said it was miles better than the prequel, but boy were they right! FMP TSR / Fumoffu (listed them together because they're essentially two halves of the same series) was even more pleasing: Kyoto Animation, better known for their moe offerings, took over from Gonzo after S1. S1 was a bit of a mess - comedy and srsbiz not meshing well - and it wasn't the most impressive show, visually. What Kyoto did was make two sequels, with one focusing on comedy and the other on drama. AND IT WORKED. Both sets of fans were catered to and, better yet, TSR added original elements that grounded it more in realism... such as the assassin twins not both goth-lolis (iirc from the manga?), the most tender hair-cutting scene EVER and a surprisingly well done prostitute scene. TSR is probably the best action TV series out there. KOR: I Want to Return to That Day and, in particular, Summer's Beginning took rom-com love triangle endless circle-jerking and FINALLY ended the love triangle. But Summer's Beginning took that a step further by showing the characters as adults and - GASP - actually going beyond first base. Sex was dealt with quite maturely and the art was changed to match the tone. It was composed by Yuki Kajiura to top it all off. My favourite film. Unfortunately, the change in direction / tone seemed to alienate some fans and resulted in it having a lower average than what came before it. Banner of the Stars II stopped the fannying around over intergalactic warfare episodicness and focused on what really mattered: Lafiel's feelings for Jinto. Their relationship was put to the ultimate test as her affection for him had to be balanced by her responsibility as a princess, with high-tension drama playing out as Jinto is captured during a rebellion on a prison planet. The end was ALMOST heartbreaking. Almost. The fifth Garden of Sinners movie is half mindfuck, half awesome. I REALLY loved the direction that made simply opening a door repeatedly immersive (to show the passing of time), and the first 40mins being linear before the structure went like Baccano with time leaps back and forth was fairly amazing, on first viewing. The only other film in the series that came close was the shorter third one. Night and day difference between the 5th and far more ponderous/pretentious first one. Only thing I didn't like was the arsepull end victory. My highest rated out of the five are KOR: Summer's Beginning and FMP: TSR. Really hard to call but, since no-one else will vote for it in all probability, I'll go with my favourite movie. |
AironicallyHumanJun 25, 2015 2:27 PM
Jun 22, 2015 3:02 PM
#2
| Add ''Naruto Shippuden'' so I can vote for it. I don't think adding 2nd cours make sense (Space dandy 2nd season, F/Z second season) since they are technically one season, and are just split because the aired 3 months later or something. Stupid MAL rules. |
tsudecimoJun 22, 2015 3:05 PM
Jun 22, 2015 3:04 PM
#3
| Garden of Sinners Movie 5 exceeded my expectations. Well, at first I didn't get 50% of story, but after I rewatched it, yeah it's fucking mindfuck. I don't know if Genshiken 2 is good or not, because I just read the mango, and it was okay. F/Z is just ... I can't express it in my words, too deep for me, especially when Kiritsugu killed her foster parent. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:06 PM
#4
| The End of Evangelion, obviously. Takes the whole NGE to another level, way more artistic and psychological, visually great too. I feel like the EoE itself made me raise NGE's score. Amazing stuff. As for Kara no Kyoukai - the 7th movie was the best for me, was more entertaining and emotional than the rest, developed the characters and their relationship, and also finally revealed the secrtes of the events from the 2nd movie. The 5th was also very good but not as much as the 7th and I feel the time leaps served no real purpose. I kinda don't understand twhy would MSG III be in there, I feel it was just as solid as the rest, not better or worse. SAC 2ND GiG was definitely better than the first season, way more consistent, not even a single boring episode and they were all more or less related to the main Individual Eleven plot, unlike the first season which had plenty skippable episodes. In Gundam there are plenty of superior sequels like , Zeta > MSG and then again Unicorn > everything that came before it |
Jun 22, 2015 3:09 PM
#5
offmodel said: I voted other, my pick would be Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer. I think it's one of the greatest anime films ever made, Mamoru Oshii's best movie, and deserves to be better remembered than it is. Urusei Yatsura is great itself, but it really took that franchise to another level. I know about that film only because Takahashi started hating Oshii because of it. Think there was an article on it on ANN.... somewhere. It made me want to watch it, though I haven't yet since the series itself and its spaz humour isn't my cup of tea. tsudecimo said: Add ''Naruto Shippuden'' so I can vote for it. I don't think adding 2nd cours make sense (Space dandy 2nd season, F/Z second season) since they are technically one season, and are just split because the aired 3 months later or something. Stupid MAL rules. I don't mind adding Shippuuden but, like I said in the OP, explain why. I don't need an essay: just a good reason why you think it's superior. Like offmodel did. I agree the '2cours' MAL thing is stupid but if I didn't count them then the poll would make for very slim pickings. And people do seem to generally agree Space Dandy and Zero's last halves >>> the first halves. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:11 PM
#7
| Add "K-on!!" so I can vote for it. http://myanimelist.net/anime/7791/K-On!! Music, animation, story, characters, everything was amazing and improved from the previous season. And that feeling of knowing it's about to end for real and how it parallels with my own school experience just made me cry at the finale :'( I lost something special that day :'( |
Jun 22, 2015 3:13 PM
#8
| EZly Fate/Zero: Kiritsugu's past and the truth of the Holy Grail is about to come... |
Jun 22, 2015 3:15 PM
#9
Imaishi said: As for Kara no Kyoukai - the 7th movie was the best for me, was more entertaining and emotional than the rest, developed the characters and their relationship, and also finally revealed the secrtes of the events from the 2nd movie. The 5th was also very good but not as much as the 7th and I feel the time leaps served no real purpose. I kinda don't understand twhy would MSG III be in there, I feel it was just as solid as the rest, not better or worse. In Gundam there are plenty of superior sequels like , Zeta > MSG and then again Unicorn > everything that came before it Huh, I felt safe going with Garden of Sinners #5 since that's usually the one people go for; myself included. If others agree with you I can either change it or add 'and/or', though I don't like doing that without good reason. I'm not a fan of the Gundam series, so I'm willing to go with your suggestion, but if possible I like adding direct sequels rather than 'same universe'. The third Gundam movie has a 0.40/50 average over other two and I remembered enjoying it the best but, yeah: not ideal to list a movie version of original series. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:18 PM
#10
| OP I agree with you that it's Birdy Decode 02. Season 1 was average because it mainly focused on Tsutomu and his life while season 2 really ramped things up because it's main focus was on Birdy. Birdy's backstory and her relationship with Nataru is what made season 2 so great. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:18 PM
#11
| Man, theres a lot of sequels that I liked but TWGOK S2 (and 3) was probably one of my favorites because of Keima's development. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:21 PM
#12
| Birdy the Mighty 2 definitely since Birdy is cool and Tsutomu isn't. Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger deserves a mention for not only having one of the hype battles up until that point, but for removing the focus from Ippo himself, who I don't really like all that much compared to his Kamogawa Gym bros. |
gedataJun 22, 2015 3:26 PM
Jun 22, 2015 3:25 PM
#13
AironicallyHuman said: Imaishi said: As for Kara no Kyoukai - the 7th movie was the best for me, was more entertaining and emotional than the rest, developed the characters and their relationship, and also finally revealed the secrtes of the events from the 2nd movie. The 5th was also very good but not as much as the 7th and I feel the time leaps served no real purpose. I kinda don't understand twhy would MSG III be in there, I feel it was just as solid as the rest, not better or worse. In Gundam there are plenty of superior sequels like , Zeta > MSG and then again Unicorn > everything that came before it Huh, I felt safe going with Garden of Sinners #5 since that's usually the one people go for; myself included. If others agree with you I can either change it or add 'and/or', though I don't like doing that without good reason. Well, I wouldn't know I've only watched it like 2 days ago so I'm not sure what general opinion is but 7th score is also very high, almost like the 5th so I guess I'm not the only one that loved it. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:26 PM
#14
DrGeroCreation said: OP I agree with you that it's Birdy Decode 02. Season 1 was average because it mainly focused on Tsutomu and his life while season 2 really ramped things up because it's main focus was on Birdy. Birdy's backstory and her relationship with Nataru is what made season 2 so great. Yeah, Tsutomu was insignificant and it was Birdy that mattered, so switching to the emphasis to her worked wonders for the series. Just a shame it was too little, too late. I really loved what Nataru added, also. gedata said: Birdy the Mighty 2 definitely since Birdy is cool and Tsutomu isn't. Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger deserves a mention for not only having one of the hype battles up until that point, but for removing the focus from Ippo himself, who I don't really like all that much. Do most fans generally regard New Challenger above the original, then? From my vague recollection, the fanbase weren't happy when it aired over the Death Note composer music not meshing with the boxing/too OTT. I was considering adding it to the other thread, tbh. But if you feel that passionately about it, I'll add it. I remember liking the focus on that huge guy over the lead, plus his rival. Forgetfulness said: In my opinion the sequels for Shakugan no Shana were better than the first season. Cause like Shana actually got more mature and stronger I dunno if I would say if I necessarily had any expectations going into the shows though. Which one specifically, though? I haven't watched beyond S1 and I'm only listing one anime series/franchise if possible. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:30 PM
#15
AironicallyHuman said: Do most fans generally regard New Challenger above the original, then? From my vague recollection, the fanbase weren't happy when it aired over the Death Note composer music not meshing with the boxing/too OTT. I was considering adding it to the other thread, tbh. But if you feel that passionately about it, I'll add it. I remember liking the focus on that huge guy over the lead, plus his rival. I wasn't around when the series was airing way back, but the only minus I can think of in comparison to the 1st season is that steam punching effects are overused. I'm a bit surprised that folks would prefer the 1st season though, I felt like Ippo was allowed to win too many fights in the 1st half despite his lack of experience. A couple of more losses would've made more sense for someone who just got into the sport. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:34 PM
#16
Imaishi said: You're not the only one from what I can tell. The common consensus seems to be that 5 and 7 are the best. Personally I liked 5 better, but not by much.AironicallyHuman said: Well, I wouldn't know I've only watched it like 2 days ago so I'm not sure what general opinion is but 7th score is also very high, almost like the 5th so I guess I'm not the only one that loved it.Imaishi said: As for Kara no Kyoukai - the 7th movie was the best for me, was more entertaining and emotional than the rest, developed the characters and their relationship, and also finally revealed the secrtes of the events from the 2nd movie. The 5th was also very good but not as much as the 7th and I feel the time leaps served no real purpose. I kinda don't understand twhy would MSG III be in there, I feel it was just as solid as the rest, not better or worse. In Gundam there are plenty of superior sequels like , Zeta > MSG and then again Unicorn > everything that came before it |
Jun 22, 2015 3:34 PM
#17
| My vote goes to Monogatari Series: Second Season. I like how Second Season isn't told by Araragi's point of view but by his friends and it shows the daily challenges they face while learning to not depend on Araragi to help them all the time. The only other one I can think of Code Geass Season 2 given its conclusion wasn't something I expected to happen but I enjoyed how well the character development went throughout the season. |
AntwanMantillaJun 22, 2015 3:38 PM
Jun 22, 2015 3:39 PM
#18
| Naruto:Shippuden. I love it, more than Naruto. My favorite character in the series in it, Kushina. My favorite arc is in it, Pain Invasion arc. I liked that the ninja world outside of the village is being explored. From the first arc, I was highly impressed by Sakura, and her development, both mentally, and physically. Her relationship with Naruto, was one of the key elements in her development, she started to deeply care for him, even crying at some points, and I appreciated that. Her fight with Chiyo vs Sasori, still remains one of my favorite fights in the series, beautifully choreographed with a great ending (before it, I thought the concept of dolls manipulation to be quite dull) I like the main antagonists of Shippuden, way more than Orochimaru and the sound. Not only was the Akatsuki much cooler, they had one of the best written antagonists among them, Pain. I liked how the arcs were constructed around them. There are some characters that I strted liking more in Shippuden. Mainly, Shikamaru, Sasuke, Hinata, Sakura. Hidan and Kakzu arc, was well done, I loved that it was focused on Shikamaru. Felt his development was subtle. The episode where he tells Kurenai was beautifully directed, like you wouldn't even believe this was part of a long running action series, felt like cinematography, very atmospheric. I found the character development and characterizations to be overall better in Shippuden. While I really liked Sasuke in part 1, I didn't really expect him to become one of my favorite characters later in the story. He is quite possibly the best developed character in any shounen series I've read/watched, quite expansive, unique, and heart wrenching. The plot twist with Itachi, is one of my all time favorites, before it, I liked Itachi but not that much, but I was blown away after it. I like the thematic narrative more in Shippuden. The theme about the cycle of hatred, really captured my attention, during the Pain arc. Pain's dialogue was quite strong, and memorable. ''You and I are no different. We are both working for our own justice. The justice I have meted out against Konoha, is exactly the same as you are trying to meted out against me. Everyone feels the pain of loss the same. We both know that pain. You are working for your justice and I for mine.'' ''Do you understand Pain a little now? If you don't share someone's pain, you can never understand them. But just because you understand them doesn't mean you can come to an agreement.'' His dialogue and interaction with Naruto was really engaging and interesting, possibly more than the actual fight itself. I like the fights more, I like the animation more, I like the music more, I like the OP/ED more. But more importantly of all I love the emotional moments more, if I have to pick a specific reason, it would definitely have to be this. Naruto meeting Kushina is just my favorite scene and episode in the whole series, and in general, it was legitimately the first time I cried watching fiction, I was just overwhelmed with joy during it. It gave me a sense of satisfaction, that I didn't find in any other work. I might be missing some stuff, but generally I don't think got worse except the pacing in some arcs (mostly the first two arcs) and I didn't like how Neji and Rock Lee, got neglected, though Gai kinda makes it up for Lee's lack of screen time. honorable mentions from the poll options: Monogatari Second Season. While I didn't like Shiobu arc that much, because I don't like her in the first place. The other 3-4 arcs, really were phenomenal. My favorite is Koimonogatari:Hitagi End. I loved the first arc, because it gave us insight on Hanekewa, and a step by step look into her development, and her abnormal living in her house. It elevated her from characters that I like, to one of my favorite female characters in general. Nadeko, who would have thought, that there is more to this cutesy girl, than meets the eye, I was really blown away at her transformation. A great character study of her character. Used to be one of the weaker characters, but that changed with the arc. Koimonogatari. I never really liked Kaiki in Nisemonogatari, but him being the protagonist of the arc, and the narrator, was quite odd in a good way, and most noteably, I got to see Hitagi-sama again. The resolution at the end might be a bit weak and anti climactic, but I really loved the arc. Man, I really should re-watch it soon. F/Z second season. It really made the somewhat dull first half, worth going through. I mostly like it more, because of Emiya Kiritsgu, I really enjoyed his development in it. His speech to Saber, at the Lancer fight, is just epic, gave me goosebumps. I never really thought I would be emotionally invested on F/Z, but by the time the story was about to finish, I really felt for Kiritsgu, and the second ED really helped. |
tsudecimoJun 22, 2015 3:48 PM
Jun 22, 2015 3:42 PM
#19
gedata said: I wasn't around when the series was airing way back, but the only minus I can think of in comparison to the 1st season is that steam punching effects are overused. I'm a bit surprised that folks would prefer the 1st season though, I felt like Ippo was allowed to win too many fights in the 1st half despite his lack of experience. A couple of more losses would've made more sense for someone who just got into the sport. Actually, I think I put it on-hold near the end for that reason: the final fight got so repetitive (if that's what ou meant by "overused") that I lost interest. Added it anyway. If you're aware of the negatives and still think it's better (didn't Ippo lose to that mentor/passing of the torch guy in S1? tho I see your point: he was kinda boring with too many auto-wins), fair enough: I'm sure someone else will agree. Gholy said: You're not the only one from what I can tell. The common consensus seems to be that 5 and 7 are the best. Personally I liked 5 better, but not by much. Since someone else agrees, added an and/or for Garden of Sinners #5&7. Didn't want to 'cause it's kinda unfair to have a two-in-one for two popular/highly-rated movies but if there's no clear favourite it's better than one or the other. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:45 PM
#20
AironicallyHuman said: gedata said: I wasn't around when the series was airing way back, but the only minus I can think of in comparison to the 1st season is that steam punching effects are overused. I'm a bit surprised that folks would prefer the 1st season though, I felt like Ippo was allowed to win too many fights in the 1st half despite his lack of experience. A couple of more losses would've made more sense for someone who just got into the sport. Actually, I think I put it on-hold near the end for that reason: the final fight got so repetitive (if that's what ou meant by "overused") that I lost interest. Added it anyway. If you're aware of the negatives and still think it's better (didn't Ippo lose to that mentor/passing of the torch guy in S1? tho I see your point: he was kinda boring with too many auto-wins), fair enough: I'm sure someone else will agree. That loss felt like too much of a given to count. If he was somehow able to beat a guy as decorated as Eiji Date I probably would've put it on hold too |
Jun 22, 2015 3:46 PM
#21
AironicallyHuman said: Birdy should have been the focus from the very beginning with Tstomu just being a secondary character.DrGeroCreation said: OP I agree with you that it's Birdy Decode 02. Season 1 was average because it mainly focused on Tsutomu and his life while season 2 really ramped things up because it's main focus was on Birdy. Birdy's backstory and her relationship with Nataru is what made season 2 so great. Yeah, Tsutomu was insignificant and it was Birdy that mattered, so switching to the emphasis to her worked wonders for the series. Just a shame it was too little, too late. I really loved what Nataru added, also. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:52 PM
#22
Jun 22, 2015 3:52 PM
#23
tsudecimo said: Naruto:Shippuden: I was highly impressed by Sakura, and her development. Her relationship with Naruto, was one of the key elements in her development, she started to deeply care for him. Her fight with Chiyo vs Sasori, still remains one of my favorite fights in the series, beautifully choreographed There are some characters that I strted liking more in Shippuden. Mainly, Shikamaru. I loved that it was focused on Shikamaru. Felt his development was subtle. The episode where he tells Kurenai was beautifully directed, like you wouldn't even believe this was part of a long running action series, felt like cinematography, very atmospheric. The plot twist with Itachi, is one of my all time favorites, before it, I liked Itachi but not that much, but I was blown away after it. honorable mention from the poll options: F/Z second season. It really made the somewhat dull first half, worth going through. I mostly like it more, because of Emiya Kiritsgu, I really enjoyed his development in it. I think it's fair to say you gave the most persuasive argument this thread will see, and despite not regarding Shippuuden highly myself, I do find myself agreeing with you: I liked Sakura's development into an actual useful fighter, as well as her characterisation. And Shikamaru's continued growth into a strategic leader, as well as his showdown with that psycho Akatsuki member, was pretty badarse; also highlighting the teamwork between him, Ino and... Chouji. And, yeah: the Itachi twist was, whilst not entirely surprising, still an excellent part of the series. I lost interest in reading after that but not before. S2 of Zero's better because of it actually showing Kiritsugu's backstory (which was fulfilling in the most empty way possible) but mainly because PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIED IN S2. In S1 I think one character died. Didn't make for an entertaining Battle Royale spectacle, that. The FSN Atie-in end was weak, tho. |
Jun 22, 2015 3:55 PM
#24
gedata said: Just noticed that neither of these polls include Spice and Wolf II To be honest, not sure where to put S&W S2: on one-hand I thought the almost netorare first half was excellent; placing Lawrence and Horo's relationship under the microscope. But the last half was a mess as far as the story went due to some pretty heavy novel detail corner cutting. Not bad enough to be described disappointing yet not good enough to better the tightly paced first season. Idk. |
Jun 22, 2015 4:00 PM
#25
| code geass s2 i can understand why people hate it but that season make the whole serie a masterpiece (atleast for me ) |
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Jun 22, 2015 4:01 PM
#26
AironicallyHuman said: I think it's fair to say you gave the most persuasive argument this thread will see, and despite not regarding Shippuuden highly myself, I do find myself agreeing with you: I liked Sakura's development into an actual useful fighter, as well as her characterisation. And Shikamaru's continued growth into a strategic leader, as well as his showdown with that psycho Akatsuki member, was pretty badarse; also highlighting the teamwork between him, Ino and... Chouji. And, yeah: the Itachi twist was, whilst not entirely surprising, still an excellent part of the series. I lost interest in reading after that but not before. S2 of Zero's better because of it actually showing Kiritsugu's backstory (which was fulfilling in the most empty way possible) but mainly because PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIED IN S2. In S1 I think one character died. Didn't make for an entertaining Battle Royale spectacle, that. The FSN Atie-in end was weak, tho. Thanks. Yup, Shika is an amazing and loveable character, feels very mature and insightful. I also forgot to mention that I liked how his friendship with Naruto, grew more, to the point where Naruto considers him his right hand man, and they have mutual respect, and chill friendship. Shikamaru's friendship with Naruto is subtle, but it's one of the best imo. Though I could understand that most people wouldn't notice it, that much, as it doesn't have as much focus as Sasuke's. Well, not that I think you will give it a shot, but I do think you should give the Pain arc a try, if you ever feel like it. Oh yeah, that was kind annoying, how the fights between the servants rarely had any conclusion. I think it's a present problem in the fate franchise as a whole, same thing happens in F/SN. They should create better excuses at least. |
Jun 22, 2015 4:06 PM
#27
| From memory Ah My Goddess second season (Ah My Goddess Everyone Has Wings) was better than season 1 because of the inclusion of Hild. Hild being a far more devious and interesting villain than season 1's main villain. |
DrGeroCreationJun 22, 2015 4:14 PM
Jun 22, 2015 4:12 PM
#28
| Good choices for the poll. Banner of the Stars II is defintely up there for me. I really liked the whole franchise, but on my first time watching it this season really stood out for me. The more planet-based story was refreshing and I'm always a fan of stories revolving around prisons/riots like this one. I think I'll always remember this as the centerpiece of that franchise even if it's probably more of a sidestory compared to most of the other seasons. The other one that always comes to mind with this question is Full Metal Panic. I decently enjoyed season 1, but season 2 was surprisingly intense and Fumoffu also exceeded my expectations. I didn't get into the franchise for many years because it just seemed okay to me (and season 1 was just that) but ended up really enjoying most of it. Since in my experience it's pretty rare for there to be such a defining difference in enjoyment in favor of the sequel, it's quite memorable for that. The only other one on that list that I thought about naming was Clannad AS, but I can't say it exceeded my expectations because everyone and their mom was hyping the shit out of it even if I told them I didn't particularly like the first season. I expected it to be good, better than S1, but not nearly as good as people were saying and that was the impression I got after watching it so I guess it doesn't really qualify. |
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Jun 22, 2015 4:36 PM
#29
| Honey & Clover II exceded my expectations for it was the most conclusive ending season I saw on anime. I literally cried on its 12th episode and its too good to describe. A lot of character growth for just little time is observable. The whole 2nd season made the whole H&C franchise my favorite. |
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Jun 22, 2015 4:41 PM
#30
| I guess probably Monogatari Series Second Season, I already loved the previous seasons (yes even Nise) but I didn't expect to love SS more than Bake and it turned a character which I disliked into my favorite character in Anime so far. |
Jun 22, 2015 4:51 PM
#31
| All Hail Britannia! All Hail Lelouch! |
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Jun 22, 2015 5:09 PM
#32
Jun 22, 2015 5:15 PM
#33
| A Certain Magical Railgun's second season. Holy crap that was a stark change from the entire series, much less Railgun's first season. I mean, the entire show is a mix of fun a plot, and the occasional PLOT, so I never took it seriously, but damn that Sisters Arc was something else. |
Jun 22, 2015 8:43 PM
#34
| Since TWGOK II (second in a trilogy) is included in the list, I'll go with Aria the Natural. Compared to its predecessor, which is often regarded as the "introduction" to the Aria trilogy, the Natural focuses much more on the setting of the series, giving viewers insight on Neo-Venezia's culture as well as the general outlook of its inhabitants. A number of the Natural's episodes are devoted to exploring Neo-Venezia, which evokes this sense of closeness between the viewer and this fully-realized setting that was not present in the Animation. |
Jun 23, 2015 12:40 AM
#35
| Dang it, haven't really watched much stuff from the list, lol. And I was slightly dissapointed with those I did watch (Dragon Ball Z, Fate Zero 2nd Season...). And some were really the same thing with a different look on the situation and tone (End of Evangelion). So, I guess I'm going to suggest Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam to be put up there. That's the least I can do. I haven't watched the MSG movies, but this sequel is something that improved on a lot of faults of the 0079 series. It's off to a fresh start as it introduces a new cast with only a few characters returning from the previous series that are somewhat useful in the long run (Char, Bright). And it works because the cause for fighting is new, too. The villains are now a specialized force that branches off the Earth Federation that pretty much has the Federation in its fingertips. The main themes of the previous one like the future resting on the younger generation and stopping history from repeating itself (with Zeon resembling WW2 Germany more and more through the first show) are still there, expanded with a little bit of enviromentalism, gender issues in war, fear from progress and keeping the status quo, and evolution of the human species. With the last one still being handled clunky like in the first show, damn Newtypes... But it stands out less from the whole show with Tomino stretching it a little bit out through the whole show in small to little bigger doses per episode. It's also where the protagonist, Kamille, gets the most development from, from his interaction with the Newtypes. There's still some moodswinging, especially in the Newtype oriented eps, but nice character growth comes out from all of it. The villains of the show aren't bad, but lack stronger presence aside one or two of them, both having bigger roles in the later half of the show... Dang, what more to say... Oh, yeah... The ending is a cliffhanger that continues into something that I can already see as a posibbly weak sequel, but the ending hurts the show less than the weird characters in it that appear from time to time. |
Poltergeist18Jun 23, 2015 12:49 AM
Jun 23, 2015 12:55 AM
#36
| Code Geass R2 definitely, I never gave sequels the same score as the first season but Geass R2 has broke my taboo. |
Jun 23, 2015 1:08 AM
#37
| The second season of Ghost In The Shell made the right call dispensing with the side stories. Like holy shit. It's fucking amazing. It's not rated high enough. I therefore must declare MAL to have shit taste. But you knew that already. |
| Anyone who doesn't hate anime hasn't watched enough anime. - Anonymous |
Jun 23, 2015 1:16 AM
#38
| Monogatari Series: Second Season: It was hard for me to enjoy its predecessors however this season was actually awesome and kept me hooked. |
Jun 23, 2015 1:19 AM
#39
| Monogatari SS was definitely an improvment,but more unexpected improvment was that of the second season of Space Dandy,which turned surprisingly to be quite good. |
Jun 23, 2015 1:55 AM
#41
Forgetfulness said: AironicallyHuman said: I guess S2 then since that was the best season to meForgetfulness said: In my opinion the sequels for Shakugan no Shana were better than the first season. Cause like Shana actually got more mature and stronger I dunno if I would say if I necessarily had any expectations going into the shows though. Which one specifically, though? I haven't watched beyond S1 and I'm only listing one anime series/franchise if possible. Eh, what about the love triangle that dragged for 9 episode of just pure boredom? did you like that? That made me drop it. |
Jun 23, 2015 10:53 AM
#42
| Code Geass by far. So many people told me the second season was shit when it was as good or better then the first imo. |
Jun 23, 2015 11:03 AM
#43
| Yama no Susume. The first season was only 36 minutes long in total and the second season was as long as a full one cour anime. For its short runtime the first season was good, but the second season was a lot better. You don't need to add this as a voting option because I doubt anyone else would vote for it. |
Jun 23, 2015 11:10 AM
#44
RedRoseFring said: All Hail Britannia! All Hail Lelouch! |
Jun 23, 2015 11:22 AM
#45
zombie_pegasus said: Yama no Susume. The first season was only 36 minutes long in total and the second season was as long as a full one cour anime. For its short runtime the first season was good, but the second season was a lot better. You don't need to add this as a voting option because I doubt anyone else would vote for it. I would vote for it. The first season was cute but just kind of there. The second season was the one that made me love the show |
Jun 23, 2015 11:35 AM
#46
| Code Geass R2 EOE Dxd New Black Lagoon Second Barrage |
Jun 24, 2015 7:35 PM
#47
| Changed Gundam to Zeta. Added Yama no Susume S2. ooo333 said: Nodame. When they went to another country. You'll have to be more specific and give me a reason. I assume you're on about the 'Paris' one, but I think that has a lower rating than what came before... CDXX said: Good choices for the poll. Banner of the Stars II is defintely up there for me. I really liked the whole franchise, but on my first time watching it this season really stood out for me. The more planet-based story was refreshing and I'm always a fan of stories revolving around prisons/riots like this one. I think I'll always remember this as the centerpiece of that franchise even if it's probably more of a sidestory compared to most of the other seasons. The other one that always comes to mind with this question is Full Metal Panic. I decently enjoyed season 1, but season 2 was surprisingly intense and Fumoffu also exceeded my expectations. I didn't get into the franchise for many years because it just seemed okay to me (and season 1 was just that) but ended up really enjoying most of it. Since in my experience it's pretty rare for there to be such a defining difference in enjoyment in favor of the sequel, it's quite memorable for that.. Cheers. In contrast to you, I liked the first season - Crest of the Stars - but only in in terms of Lafiel and Jinto. Excellent characters; so-so story. I didn't enjoy Banner of the Stars I at all, though: too much space battle technobabble. So, Banner of the Stars caught me cold in the best way possible: from the lowest point in the series, it reached a point where it was truly compelling, for me. As you mentioned, it being focused on one planet and prison riot fully made for a much better, more driven series. Shame it's doomed to end forever incomplete, though... Most people unfortunately never give FMP a chance beyond S1, which was decent but yeah: not the best showcase for what would follow. The most disappointing thing about those FMP sequels is that, even though Kyoto did a wonderful job, they didn't make money and couldn't make a sequel... which would've covered the best part of the whole series. There is a full manga adaptation, at least... |
Jun 25, 2015 8:47 AM
#48
| I went with Space Dandy S2. A big improvement imo. Shoutouts to Yama no Susume S2 for going from 3m per episode in S1 to 13 minutes. Woo. |
"Be the change you wish to see in the world." |
Jun 25, 2015 8:51 AM
#49
| EoE only from this list I expected pretentious faggotry but it turned out to be amazing most of this list was either overhyped and disappointing or even worse than the prequels |
Jun 25, 2015 9:10 AM
#50
| Did the Main Cast grew a beard? |
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