| Interesting stuff Azuma took a risk to Shoot Osamu because he believed him to be dangerous if left alone. Which make sense considering he has seen him in action in the Suwa/Arafune match Chika had a small bit of character development by taking the initiative. Denying points by bailing out is used after being introduced last match Inukai gets wrecked for being cocky Yuzuru helps save his crush And it looks like Ninomiya might have done something to push Hatohara into doing what she did. |
Dues-aj said: Interesting stuff Azuma took a risk to Shoot Osamu because he believed him to be dangerous if left alone. Which make sense considering he has seen him in action in the Suwa/Arafune match wasn't it obvious ? Dues-aj said: Chika had a small bit of character development by taking the initiative. Yay! Tripple fucking YAY! |
| I feel like Chika will be the most frustrated one after this match. She had four points lined up there and she didn't even got one and her team NEEDS points if they want to advance. All that just cause she can't shoot people (yet) and does not have the same skill like Hatohara did with shooting weapons instead of persons. Osamu had his change of mind after Nasu battle, Chika probably gonna have hers after this one. Here's to see how Yuuma on his own prevails against an overmight of numbers and superior skill. |
| I'm actually curious why Ninomiya confronts Yuzuru about shooting Inukai. Did he have a better shot at Chika or Yuma? It seems weird to ask that question in a free for all. |
p-kun said: Dues-aj said: I'm actually curious why Ninomiya confronts Yuzuru about shooting Inukai. Did he have a better shot at Chika or Yuma? It seems weird to ask that question in a free for all. It's hard to tell without the full chapter, but it's probably a combination of Chika being an easier shot and the fact that Yuzuru exposes his position NOT for the benefit of his team but for the benefit of the enemy team (he's probably dead now that Ninomiya is within talking distance of him unless Zoe does something). Sandbagging and match "rigging" with enemies are grave sins in sports. I won't be surprised if Kageura's team gets penalties due to lack of sportsmanship later. I don't think Kageura Team sandbagged in anyway. Unless you're counting Yuzuru purposely making a star in the sniper practice, but Toma was doing the same. I don't think they were unsportsman-like in anyway. I agree that Yuzuru is probably dead, but as Kage said his team doesn't really care about moving up and I'm sure Yuzuru thinks it was worth (a) for chika (b) to take down a Ninomiya member (who is seems he hates). Kitazoe might survive if Ninomiya decides he's not a threat and heads back to the battle royale. |
SundanceAnn said: p-kun said: It's hard to tell without the full chapter, but it's probably a combination of Chika being an easier shot and the fact that Yuzuru exposes his position NOT for the benefit of his team but for the benefit of the enemy team (he's probably dead now that Ninomiya is within talking distance of him unless Zoe does something). Sandbagging and match "rigging" with enemies are grave sins in sports. I won't be surprised if Kageura's team gets penalties due to lack of sportsmanship later. I don't think Kageura Team sandbagged in anyway. Unless you're counting Yuzuru purposely making a star in the sniper practice, but Toma was doing the same. I don't think they were unsportsman-like in anyway. I agree that Yuzuru is probably dead, but as Kage said his team doesn't really care about moving up and I'm sure Yuzuru thinks it was worth (a) for chika (b) to take down a Ninomiya member (who is seems he hates). Kitazoe might survive if Ninomiya decides he's not a threat and heads back to the battle royale. I think it was better to shoot Inukai even if Chika was an easier shot..... even if he didn't helped Chika...making Inukai bails out is far more useful than Chika... since Inukai is far more dangerous for Kageura team than Chika... |
| Yeah the actual chapter will probably clear that up. Though I'm still curious about Yuzuru's hatred and if it actually stemmed from something Ninomiya did to Hatohara. Because playing the events of what we know the sole blame lands on Hatohara running away after getting her team taken off the expedition. I'm guessing Ninomiya squad treated her like shit for holding the team back and that was one of the reasons she did what she did. |
p-kun said: Dues-aj said: Though I'm still curious about Yuzuru's hatred and if it actually stemmed from something Ninomiya did to Hatohara. Because playing the events of what we know the sole blame lands on Hatohara running away after getting her team taken off the expedition. I'm guessing Ninomiya squad treated her like shit for holding the team back and that was one of the reasons she did what she did. I won't be surprised if the blame game goes both ways, say Hatohara was to blame for the team being dropped, but the guys bullied her after that (in Yuzuru's presence) and this drove her to extreme measures, but then the guys also had strong reasons to want to be in the away team like Hatohara and these drove them to bully Hatohara in the first place. WT never has a black and white world. Even jerks usually have logical reasons to be jerks. Heck, even Enedora had his reasons even if they don't justify him. WT is great because of that. Ninomiya seems like a character with a lot of pride. I imagine it would be understandable for him to be enraged over being held back. |
p-kun said: Dues-aj said: Though I'm still curious about Yuzuru's hatred and if it actually stemmed from something Ninomiya did to Hatohara. Because playing the events of what we know the sole blame lands on Hatohara running away after getting her team taken off the expedition. I'm guessing Ninomiya squad treated her like shit for holding the team back and that was one of the reasons she did what she did. I won't be surprised if the blame game goes both ways, say Hatohara was to blame for the team being dropped, but the guys bullied her after that (in Yuzuru's presence) and this drove her to extreme measures, but then the guys also had strong reasons to want to be in the away team like Hatohara and these drove them to bully Hatohara in the first place. WT never has a black and white world. Even jerks usually have logical reasons to be jerks. Heck, even Enedora had his reasons even if they don't justify him. WT is great because of that. My guess is that Hatohara felt she was holding the team back and left on her own. Ninomiya might be arrogant, but I think he cared about Hatohara and was hurt by her leaving. He seemed upset when Osamu suggested that Hatohara had reasons for leaving. Ninomiya x Hatohara ship... |
| I think one of the main reasons she left was that someone she knew was captured and she wanted to save them. Border wouldn't let her continue the expedition so she went in the neighborhood under her own terms. SundanceAnn said: p-kun said: I won't be surprised if the blame game goes both ways, say Hatohara was to blame for the team being dropped, but the guys bullied her after that (in Yuzuru's presence) and this drove her to extreme measures, but then the guys also had strong reasons to want to be in the away team like Hatohara and these drove them to bully Hatohara in the first place. WT never has a black and white world. Even jerks usually have logical reasons to be jerks. Heck, even Enedora had his reasons even if they don't justify him. WT is great because of that. My guess is that Hatohara felt she was holding the team back and left on her own. Ninomiya might be arrogant, but I think he cared about Hatohara and was hurt by her leaving. He seemed upset when Osamu suggested that Hatohara had reasons for leaving. Ninomiya x Hatohara ship... He insulted her at every turn. I doubt that they are on good terms |
| raws are up http://www.mangamint.com/world-trigger-113?page=1 Kage taking out Inukai is pretty awesome. |
Dues-ajAug 27, 2015 8:45 AM
Dues-aj said: raws are up http://www.mangamint.com/world-trigger-113?page=1 Kage taking out Inukai is pretty awesome. When it comes to battling, WT looks really good and dynamic. <3 |
808gman said: My guess on what will happen in 114... Yuma is standing closer to Tsuji and he should be able to take him out quickly. He should then put Okudera and Koarai between Kage and him. Once they finish those two their fight will get interupted by Ninomiya. Kage will get pissed and attack him. Azuma will be on the hunt for Zoe. Kage will take care of Ninomiya with the help of Yuuma. After Azuma takes care of Zoe he goes back for Kage and Yuuma. So far K-3, A-2, T-2, N-1 Azuma tries for Yuuma and pisses of Kage why is everyone bothering us :). Kage takes out Azuma and Yuuma finally takes out Kage. T-4,K-4,A-3,N-1 Tamakoma wins because Yuuma is last man standing :) They explain that Yuuma manipulates Kages anger, thereby keeping Yuuma in the match until the end. Interesting way of thinking about it and that will be quite nice to see but I just can't help but think that all of this is just too good to be true. True, Osamu and Chika have been showing development and are growing but their constant winning streaks seem a little unbalanced if you ask me. Even Kitora said it was too soon and for a week, they did pretty good in my personal opinion. xD Then again, Osamu and Chika have now bailed out so Kuga will have to somehow to deal with the situation and with a normal trigger (guess this will be a good test for him). He was able to fight Miwa Squad by himself with a Black Trigger + Replica so it will be quite interesting to see how this turns out! :D |
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| I think it would be interesting if Osamu convinced Ninomiya to give him pointers after this. |
| Spoilers for 114 out... there were a lot of bail outs... Yuuma makes a point... Kageura squad : 3 points (?)- only kageura remains. Ninomiya squad : 2 points - only ninomiya remains. Azuma squad : 1 point - only Azuma remains. Mikumo squad :1 point(?) - only Yuuma remains( he lost one of his arms...(elbow below) and one of his legs ( knee below) Next chap.... Kageura vs wonded Yuuma? Ninomiya vs Azuma ? I'm gonna wait the update in the spoiles and p-kuns translation... but it was a good cap by what i read... I don't have much time today, so i will not try to give more spoilers... so wait for p-kun's spoilers, they are far more accurate than mine... I think this fight will end in two caps.... |
pablomcSep 1, 2015 8:14 AM
pablomc said: Spoilers for 114 out... there were a lot of bail outs... Yuuma makes a point... Kageura squad : 3 points- only kageura remains. Ninomiya squad : 2 points - only ninomiya remains. Azuma squad : 1 point - only Azuma remains. Mikumo squad :1 point - only Yuuma remains( he lost one of his arms...(elbow below) and one of his legs ( knee below) Next chap.... Kageura vs wonded Yuuma? Ninomiya vs Azuma ? I'm gonna wait the update in the spoiles and p-kuns translation... but it was a good cap by what i read... I don't have much time today, so i will not try to give more spoilers... so wait for p-kun's spoilers, they are far more accurate than mine... I think this fight will end in two caps.... Only the Aces remain. This is getting interesting |
Just one more thing... one of Kageura squad points might be a Tamakoma 2"s point.... so it would be Mikumo squad 2 points... and Kageura - 2 points.... but it was not explained.... maybe we will know when they update the spoilers If this way around... Tamakoma can stiil win if Yuuma takes Kageura... and Azuma takes Ninomiya... and then bails out... |
pablomcSep 1, 2015 8:51 AM
| Yuma taking down Kage with that kind of battle damage sounds nearly impossible. |
Dues-aj said: Yuma taking down Kage with that kind of battle damage sounds nearly impossible. who knows?, maybe azuma shoots Kageura(unlikely) or Yuuma has a trump card....who knows? let's wait the cap... we will know soon... |
| Yeah, Azuma is pretty fucking amazing if that is true. |
| If Yuma has one point (+1), he beats Kage (+1) and the Ninomiya/Azuma victor (+1), and survives (+1) Then the score would be: Mikumo - 4 Kageura - 3 Ninomiya - 3 if Ninomiya wins (or 2 if Azuma wins) Azuma - 1 if Ninomiya wins (or 2 if Azuma wins) T-2 can still win!! ... Just not very likely... this battle has me on edge! Every time I think something is going to happen it changes (usually for the worse haha) |
SundanceAnnSep 1, 2015 1:16 PM
Triggerman said: If these are the real spoilers, then this chapter looks great! And i'm glad that Azuma is that good (if these are true of course)! Everyone respects him a lot, he is one of the most experienced soldier in border, former leader of the best squad, trained Reiji so it's only logical that he is a beast! Yuuma seems to have a hard time, but he still managed to score a point so that's good! But i can't see how he could survive against the other 3 leader with a leg and an arm cut off! (all the leaders are in the top 3 of their respective position i think) Ninomiya is the #1 shooter Azuma might be the third best sniper, but he is never refered to as that. Kage is supposed to be below Tachikawa, Jin, Kazama, and Konami as far as attackers go. |
| Ninomiya is also the #2 overall combatant, so he's between Tachikawa and Kazama. Definitely a tough opponent. Yuma might be able to pull it off a win against Ninomiya with the grasshopper though. Another thing to consider is that Ninomiya might get injured in his (presumed) fight with Azuma. |
SundanceAnn said: Ninomiya is also the #2 overall combatant, so he's between Tachikawa and Kazama. Definitely a tough opponent. Yuma might be able to pull it off a win against Ninomiya with the grasshopper though. Another thing to consider is that Ninomiya might get injured in his (presumed) fight with Azuma. Yuuma, has lost a hand and a leg.... and he will fight against Kageura. even if, somehow, he wins against Kageura.... there is no way he will have trion enough to fight Nino(I kinda liked the nick name). |
| Well Shooters/Gunners/Snipers are at a disadvantage in close range against attackers. Ninomiya might be able to stop him but Yuma might also have a chance because of that. |
Triggerman said: You really think that Yuma can win against the 2nd best fighter overall with just the grasshopper? Even though we saw him lose repeatedly against Kkonami and he struggled to beat Murakami who's probably not even in the top 10! For me Yuma with a border trigger is not capable "YET" of defeating the top fighter such as Tachikawa, Jin Kazama Konami and same goes for the shooters like Izumi or Ninomiya! Of course with his black trigger he could win but not with border triggers (he still need to train to achieve a win against those guys)! And i'm not even taking into account the fact that he would have to face Ninomiya without 1 leg and 1 arm! I wasn't very clear. That's my bad. What I meant to say was that Yuma can get close to Ninomiya fast using the grasshopper. The advantage of shooters is that they're good a mid-distance, but I'd assume not as good at a close distance. Yuma was losing to Konami at the beginning when he wasn't used to Border triggers. We don't know how well he's doing now. Murakami is no. 4 attacker. Not sure how that ranks overall, but that's not shabby. Anyways, I did in a early text box say that it wasn't likely that Yuma would win, but that it's possible. |
SundanceAnn said: Triggerman said: You really think that Yuma can win against the 2nd best fighter overall with just the grasshopper? Even though we saw him lose repeatedly against Kkonami and he struggled to beat Murakami who's probably not even in the top 10! For me Yuma with a border trigger is not capable "YET" of defeating the top fighter such as Tachikawa, Jin Kazama Konami and same goes for the shooters like Izumi or Ninomiya! Of course with his black trigger he could win but not with border triggers (he still need to train to achieve a win against those guys)! And i'm not even taking into account the fact that he would have to face Ninomiya without 1 leg and 1 arm! I wasn't very clear. That's my bad. What I meant to say was that Yuma can get close to Ninomiya fast using the grasshopper. The advantage of shooters is that they're good a mid-distance, but I'd assume not as good at a close distance. Yuma was losing to Konami at the beginning when he wasn't used to Border triggers. We don't know how well he's doing now. Murakami is no. 4 attacker. Not sure how that ranks overall, but that's not shabby. Anyways, I did in a early text box say that it wasn't likely that Yuma would win, but that it's possible. Konami is stronger than Murakami(I don't know if we count his side effect...but at the large scale invasion arc she took far more rabbits than Murakami without even sweat... but again.... i'm not counting Murakami's side effect)... and Tamakoma first isn't in border ranks because they use different triggers.... And I think Yuuma is making 3 x 7 against Konami or 4 x 6 .... I'm not sure... |
| Murakami mentioned that Konami was one of the people he couldn't beat. |
| I'd rank Konami higher than Kazama since she has more experience. Kitora should be higher than Yoneya since she did win in that one encounter. And Utagawa should be ranked higher than Kikuchihara since he had a higher enlistment score. |
Triggerman said: Well actually Konami is also an All Rounder. But I believe both Kitora and Konami's strongest positions are attacker based on what we've seen.Dues-aj said: I'd rank Konami higher than Kazama since she has more experience. Kitora should be higher than Yoneya since she did win in that one encounter. And Utagawa should be ranked higher than Kikuchihara since he had a higher enlistment score. i didn't put Kitora in there because i think she's presented as a all-rounder and not an attacker! But otherwise yeah i would put her near Yoneya I consider All rounder as a category in itself like Attacker-Sniper-Shooter-Trapper so that's why i don't put them in this ranking |
Dues-aj said: Triggerman said: Well actually Konami is also an All Rounder. But I believe both Kitora and Konami's strongest positions are attacker based on what we've seen.i didn't put Kitora in there because i think she's presented as a all-rounder and not an attacker! But otherwise yeah i would put her near Yoneya I consider All rounder as a category in itself like Attacker-Sniper-Shooter-Trapper so that's why i don't put them in this ranking Now that I think... all of Tamakoma-1 members are all rounds.... it must be quite convenient ....depending on the situation. |
pablomc said: Yep, Konami and Karasuma are regular All Rounders and Reiji is a perfect All Rounder.Dues-aj said: Well actually Konami is also an All Rounder. But I believe both Kitora and Konami's strongest positions are attacker based on what we've seen. Now that I think... all of Tamakoma-1 members are all rounds.... it must be quite convenient ....depending on the situation. |
| Well I hope the spoilers are true because I have this ready now http://i.imgur.com/7kg1oiH.jpg I'm going to see if I can find a sniper rifle at the right angle to edit in |
Triggerman said: i didn't put Kitora in there because i think she's presented as a all-rounder and not an attacker! But otherwise yeah i would put her near Yoneya I consider All rounder as a category in itself like Attacker-Sniper-Shooter-Trapper so that's why i don't put them in this ranking It sounds like it just means the agent qualifies in multiple categories. In a recent twitter reply, Ashihara gave this explanation for an all-rounder: Q: How is an all-rounder defined? A: An all-rounder is ‘an agent who has earned more than 6000 solo points in both Attacker and Gunner triggers respectively’. Right now Border’s overall level is on the rise and there are those who say it should be raised to above 8000. My guess is that someone like Kitora can rank as an attacker, as long as she only uses attacker weapons in the attacker rank battle. I'd also guess that in the "overall" category that there would be no limit on the type of trigger. ...But that's speculation |
SundanceAnn said: Triggerman said: i didn't put Kitora in there because i think she's presented as a all-rounder and not an attacker! But otherwise yeah i would put her near Yoneya I consider All rounder as a category in itself like Attacker-Sniper-Shooter-Trapper so that's why i don't put them in this ranking It sounds like it just means the agent qualifies in multiple categories. In a recent twitter reply, Ashihara gave this explanation for an all-rounder: Q: How is an all-rounder defined? A: An all-rounder is ‘an agent who has earned more than 6000 solo points in both Attacker and Gunner triggers respectively’. Right now Border’s overall level is on the rise and there are those who say it should be raised to above 8000. My guess is that someone like Kitora can rank as an attacker, as long as she only uses attacker weapons in the attacker rank battle. I'd also guess that in the "overall" category that there would be no limit on the type of trigger. ...But that's speculation So... as Osamu is using both asteroid and raygust.... can't he be considered an all round...? of course... after he reach 6000 points in each of them. It's not because he uses raygust for defense mainly that it doesn't count as a attacker trigger....(he killed marmords and some rabbits using the raygust at the large-scale invansion arc.....). So... will Osamu become an All-round? or do you guys think it would be better for him to just specialize in shooter skills....? |
pablomc said: SundanceAnn said: It sounds like it just means the agent qualifies in multiple categories. In a recent twitter reply, Ashihara gave this explanation for an all-rounder: Q: How is an all-rounder defined? A: An all-rounder is ‘an agent who has earned more than 6000 solo points in both Attacker and Gunner triggers respectively’. Right now Border’s overall level is on the rise and there are those who say it should be raised to above 8000. My guess is that someone like Kitora can rank as an attacker, as long as she only uses attacker weapons in the attacker rank battle. I'd also guess that in the "overall" category that there would be no limit on the type of trigger. ...But that's speculation So... as Osamu is using both asteroid and raygust.... can't he be considered an all round...? of course... after he reach 6000 points in each of them. It's not because he uses raygust for defense mainly that it doesn't count as a attacker trigger....(he killed marmords and some rabbits using the raygust at the large-scale invansion arc.....). So... will Osamu become an All-round? or do you guys think it would be better for him to just specialize in shooter skills....? He possibly could, but that would be after he masters shooting. |
Dues-aj said: pablomc said: So... as Osamu is using both asteroid and raygust.... can't he be considered an all round...? of course... after he reach 6000 points in each of them. It's not because he uses raygust for defense mainly that it doesn't count as a attacker trigger....(he killed marmords and some rabbits using the raygust at the large-scale invansion arc.....). So... will Osamu become an All-round? or do you guys think it would be better for him to just specialize in shooter skills....? He possibly could, but that would be after he masters shooting. Yeah I agree with you... after Osamu masters shooting... if he learns the fundamentals of being an attacker... he wouldn't face that problem of when an attacker get to close of a shooter.... I mean... he could learn do defend himself-better.... |
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