Change 'Shougo' to Shogo (Makishima)

Monstrum said:
I'm definitely sure it is Shōgo

trebmeg said:
If a name is indicated with macrons, it will be spelled with either oo or ou.

lllllllll said:


I'm sure the Official website knows how to spell his name.

( As well as the people who made it and Psycho-Pass )

trebmeg said:


We are in MAL though.

lllllllll said:


Yeah. Well if youre going to be a website about anime and manga, at least get the fucking names right, or what's the point.

trebmeg said:


Shougo is correct.

trebmeg said:
@lllllll:

As I said earlier, the style of romanization in MAL is different. His name is Shōgo (with macrons, the line above letter o), so his name will be romanized as Shougo.

lllllllll said:


Why not put his name in as Shōgo then?
Why Change it, thats not how its spelt.

lllllllll said:
If Shougo was correct, then they would be using that, don't ya think?

trebmeg said:


MAL DB mods are using the revised hepburn romanization , that's why it is spelt like that. And I dont think they will change this style anytime soon. So we just gotta bear with it for now.

EratiK said:
This is a good remark, and unfortunately, it seems the Japanese people don't have a problem to transcribe either o and long o (with macron) -- which are considered different in their own language -- with just "o". I was watching NHK news the other day, and even on a big corporate building main entrance (was something like Katou Electrics) the romaji were Kato (without macron) and not Katou. Well it's not their alphabet, who can blame them.

lllllllll said:


No, it's not.

Again, I think they know how to spell his name, when they created him. I don't care if you think it's correct because you know Japanese or just being ignorant.
It's not correct.

Go on the Psycho-Pass offcial website

Go on Japanese Merch websites that sell Psycho-Pass stuff
They have Shogo Makishima Merch on there
With SHOGO Makishima written on them.

If Shougo was correct, then they would be using that, don't ya think?

trebmeg said:
@lllllll:

As I said earlier, the style of romanization in MAL is different. His name is Shōgo (with macrons, the line above letter o), so his name will be romanized as Shougo.

trebmeg said:


MAL DB mods are using the revised hepburn romanization , that's why it is spelt like that. And I dont think they will change this style anytime soon. So we just gotta bear with it for now.

Narmy said:
Why haven't they changed all instances of Tokyo to Toukyou, Kyoto to Kyouto, Osaka to Oosaka, etc?

Narmy said:
, and the tag for KyoAni produced anime is still Kyoto Animation, instead of Kyouto Animation.[/url]

Not to mention all of the character and anime descriptions which still use the inconsistent city names.

lllllllll said:


NO

Zefyris said:

it is. adding the u is using the waapuro (word proessor) typing style instead of using macrons which cannot be used with standard keyboard without entering a specific code each time (or copy pasting it from somewhere).

Either you put a macron or you put a supplementary u, but you don't remove both. Shogo isn't pronounced the same as 聖護. It's pronounced with a longer o, which in western country when romanizing japanese will be shown by a macron (or a ô which is technically incorrect but looks closer of a macron so sometimes used by peoples with keyboard having that accent directly on it, like on french keyboards) over the "o" if you write it on a paper, or usually, with a supplementary u if you want to keep that "long o" information.
BTW, there are alternatives. We could go just fine with "Shohgo" as well.
Note that usually, japanese themselves don't care when they write a name to add the macron or the u and don't add it.

This is mostly used outside japan. This site isn't japanese, hence why we use an occidental system. What is important here, is to be consistent in the end. If we choose a system for a part of it, we go with it for the whole database. The website database use a hepburn/waapuro combination for everything, hence, Shougo.


But then again, if you want to use a system japanese, they can change it to be Makisima Syōgo. Because if you argue that she should follow japanese standard instead and refuse to see waapuro, there is absolutely no reason to not go all the way and change every single name on the website from hepburn shiki into kunreishiki instead. You're going to get Singeki no Kyōzin, Musisi, and so on.

But well, I don't think it's time to change a whole database for such small thing, heh?


BTW, it's quite often that an anime official website doesn't romanize the names properly. The rokka no yuusha website for example misspelled 5 names out of the 7 they put on the website. Very trustworthy, for sure. That's because they didn't write that name in roman letter to tell people how it's pronounced, but for "cool effect". The persons who made the website just thought that it looked cool to have them romanized. So they also chose what seemed the "cooler" way to write it for them. Yep, that's it, really. That's why a lot of romanized names on official anime website are inconsistent and shouldn't be taken as a source for how that name should be written.
While I'm at it, it actually gets worse if you go to foreign official anime website. They don't even respect the one in the japanese official website, getting them even more wrong there.