Soren333 said: grave_robber said: Don't you mean grr88?O: Oh M: My G: God U: You S: Suck Kaito either you're a VERY bad mafia or a decent jester but if you flip town, I promise I won't be playing any games with you.... Where did the jester read for Kaito come from? Because he's being anti town? I feel like it's more of a newb town with a playstyle issue. I thought the same thing, that Kaito is just a clumsy town player. Actually, I thought Kaito was the Cop, because he absolutely didn't seem to want to vote without evidence. >.> Jackrito said: grrr88 said: How do you find that deal now? Kaito has one more reason now to hate day 1 lynches, ha. It worked this time but making a deal like that to kill someone espically on the first day is a bit low and something personally I would not do. +1 |
| Fun Fact: Kaito hasn't been town yet so far, this was his 4th as a mafia in a row. XD (Not counting DN game since it wasn't really mafia game) |
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Karote said: Fun Fact: Kaito hasn't been town yet so far, this was his 4th as a mafia in a row. XD (Not counting DN game since it wasn't really mafia game) I was going to ask this eventually, I had only really taken note of the fact he hasn't ever shown the ability to play town funnily enough. One would assume you'd learn/adapt accordingly after consecutive flops :S |
| Wow Kaito, I think you've been mafia in all the games you've played so far (with the exception of death note). This is why grrr88 kept blabbing after the voting closed, he was confident kaito would be lynched. You see what I noticed about kaito, is that he avoids townies when he's mafia, he only talks to mafia buddies or his online friends, he only talks to townies when they vote for him or accuse him. Before we started voting for him, he only buddied up with grrr88, and like I said grrrr88 could have voted for suzune to try and shift focus back to her once he and kaito became the main focus. Kaito only talked to me and heartman unprovoked (his mafia buddies) in pyro's game. My suspicions of grrr88 remain the same. Based on this VCA, he's either town or Jester: In doughey's FSN game, karote voted for kaito (unprovoked) D1 and D2, they were mafia buddies, this game he chose not to, karote wouldn't have waited for a last minute deal from grrr88 to bus kaito which makes me read karote as town for now. I will keep in mind that kaito was the cavalier and mafia would hesitate to lynch him. Interesting behaviors such as kaito voting for X, this happened because I was lashing out on x_at_home (I still like you X <3) and both grrr88 and Kaito tried to play on that suspicion but I wouldn't let them. Grrr88 switched to Suzune afterwards and kaito was stuck. This makes me think X might not be mafia after all. However, Kaito could have picked that bussing technic karote used on him in the FSN game and used it here to disassociate himself from X but I doubt it. I'm inclined to think X isn't mafia now. Coromandel didn't vote for kaito, she went instead for grrr88 on the basis of him being either mafia or jester and as jester she wanted him gone asap before he could kill. Kaito commented on her quick change of heart (unprovoked like he used to do with me and ehartmean in pyro's game) so she could be mafia with him and decided to bus grrr88 because kaito is their treasurer and they need gold. After her vote on grr88, the focus shifted towards grrr88 and away from kaito. I am unsure of coro's alignment now, neutral read on her for now. Suzune as usual avoided the main lynch trains and voted for karote, as she told soren she usually votes for Jack but she chose karote based on a vibe she got from him (his scummy playstyle early game), soren was either picking the same vibe or was influenced by her and switched from kaito (told you not to Pom Pom!!) to karote. Now they usually have good instincts in skype mafia but I'm reading karote as town right now. Suzune also tried to reason with kaito and voted for him at some point if I recall correctly, she's been a bit playful this game, it seems she's a bit more relaxed, not sure if it's due to her being town or just her enjoying the weekend. Neutral read on Suzune for now Who else did Kaito interact with (other than me who he argued with :p), we need to examine his day 1 interactions! Soren333 said: Where did the jester read for Kaito come from? Because he's being anti town? I feel like it's more of a newb town with a playstyle issue. Because he wasn't defending himself, he wouldn't even fake claim to try and draw out the town cavalier. @Cavalier, my advice is to give yourself or soren the 100 gold tonight, keep posting tonight to level up quickly, save your money, promote to general (not Paladin) because you cannot give gold as paladin to people you've given gold to as cavalier so it's not that great of a promotion. Once you become a general, buy the item to permanently increase magic by 2 (then your stats will be the same as paladin) & you'll get the log of items bought each night. @Dancer, my apologies! I was meaning to tell you sth during the day before you used your powers, I trust you didn't use them since you were unsure of your target's alignment. I think on Day 2, it will be a bit easier for you to choose a target. I'll do some more backreading and analysis later. |
grrr88 said: grave_robber said: I love you too!Stop lying you anti-town player, even if you're town, I'll be glad to see you go for playing so damn anti-town. Soren333 said: And grave why do you think that it's more likely that Kaito is scum/mafia as opposed to being a newb town with a playstyle issue? I already answered this, when I accused him and again with my previous analysis post (look up) Soren333 said: grave_robber said: Cause I Don't Think Kaito Is scumFlip town means that your role and alignment are revealed as town upon dying. Basically, it means if you are confirmed as town upon dying. Soren, I dunno why you changed your vote now.... I guess we read him differently. Soren333 said: grave_robber said: When You Wake Up Can You Direct Me To Which Posts That He's Calm Him Please? What? It's a town read Why? because he's more relaxed as town and based on meta. If he's changed his meta, we'll find out eventually. But based on day 1 events, I read him as town. He actually explained it to Suzune in a post, he wasn't lying when he said that. He can link to i, I'm not going through the posts now. I need to get some sleep because I need to be up early tomorrow. For tonight, I suggest everyone reads the OP again, ask Doughkey about anything you don't understand, then read the thread once more. Once the lynch is posted and the alignment revealed, you'll be able to see things differently. I'll comment tomorrow. I just wanted to see the phase through before going to sleep. Good night everyone ^^ Good night grace-chan and sweet dreams ^~^ I said relaxed not calm, when he's relaxed he jokes around and that's what he's been doing. Err, why do I have to track down the posts..... Don't misunderstand, it's not like I did it for you! I did it because I had some free time, t-that's all! |
Zymf said: Question: Can the Lie Detector detect a lie, if the Liar doesn't know if it's a lie or not? For example: "Either Grave_robber, Suzune-chan or Vongalaxy is the Cleric" - Can the Lie Detector check that statement? From my experience that's not possible, it will give inaccurate results. For example, let's say the Lie detector used my statement of: "Grrr88 is either town or jester" This might return true if he's not mafia, but it might return false if doughkey decides that "town" is a proper alignment/role. That's why I've been saying people need to state their alignment as: "I am town-aligned". Still that's a question for doughkey to answer. He's the host and it's up to him. I'll be back later! Bye ^^ |
grave_robber said: He's already said it in thread, has he not.Zymf said: Question: Can the Lie Detector detect a lie, if the Liar doesn't know if it's a lie or not? For example: "Either Grave_robber, Suzune-chan or Vongalaxy is the Cleric" - Can the Lie Detector check that statement? From my experience that's not possible, it will give inaccurate results. For example, let's say the Lie detector used my statement of: "Grrr88 is either town or jester" This might return true if he's not mafia, but it might return false if doughkey decides that "town" is a proper alignment/role. That's why I've been saying people need to state their alignment as: "I am town-aligned". Still that's a question for doughkey to answer. He's the host and it's up to him. I'll be back later! Bye ^^ You have to say townie aligned. |
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Zymf said: Rumanshi said: Doughkey said the Lie had to be very specific, but not if the liar have to know if it's a lie or not.He's already said it in thread, has he not. You have to say townie aligned. The statement checked must be known by the person making the statement. |
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Doughkey said: The statement checked must be known by the person making the statement. Okay, this is new too. What happens if it isn't known? Does he gets true/ false or NAN ? |
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grrr88 said: Doughkey said: The statement checked must be known by the person making the statement. Okay, this is new too. What happens if it isn't known? Does he gets true/ false or NAN ? Pft I don't know, how does an irl LD work? Someone lies and the machine picks up on changes due to nervousness and the little needle goes HAM for a bit, right? So if the person makes a statement they don't know the answer to they are lying, I guess? So they will receive negative (as in false) results. |
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KaitoKirishima said: well i tried lol, gl everyone. My luck at being picked as mafia is apparently too good, maybe i should go to a casino -.- XD. tbh, i only started to suspect u when u start playing the stubborn newb card. Used to play that a lot personally. But that only works when u r a girl. teehee ~ :P *cough cough* jk jk xDD so it's night time now. Back to sleep ~ ciao ^^/ |
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Soren333 said: Can you link the phases in the OP please? Knew I was forgetting something, added. The OP has 8 menus now, it looks garbage but such is the price for efficiency ;-; |
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| So I noticed the phase change says Kaito received 9 damage. Host-sama!!!! Does this mean he got 9 votes? If so, can someone's vote count as 1.5 or do they multiply as integers (1,2,3..etc)? ============================ Doughkey said: The Barracks KaitoKirishima said: grrr88 said: Since he flipped Mafia I take my thanks back. I am glad you died Kaito! D**n grrr88 i am hurt :'( It's ok Kaito, he'll be joining you soon >_> x_at_home said: Agree that grrr88 still looks questionable. I think Zymf interacted with Kaito yesterday, but he mostly stays with game mechanic posts like usual. Someone's here =D but I have to go to sleep ;-; Good night everyone ^^ |
Lambtron said: As for the complete lack of posting within this specific thread, I wasn't exactly going to prove otherwise by doing the opposite of being absent, it would just be taking advantage of the situation.... not to mention it would be silly to start up conversations you couldn't be a part of in the first place. Also it's damned near impossible to deal with quotes etc through my phone. Look forward to you getting into the game. If JDishR doesn't appear, Heartman can replace him. |
| Uhm, grave, I thought the votes are determined through subtraction. Oh, that's unfortunate. Good Night, grave. ~ Edit: From the OP Damage/Vote calculation is simple subtraction: Ex. Doughkey uses physical on Ctsu. Doughkey has a Str stat of 6, Ctsu has a def stat of 4, after phase change this will count as 2. So like Pegasus Kngiht has 4 Mag - 1 Mag Def from Kaito = 3. |
x_at_homeJun 8, 2015 3:38 PM
| I have grown lazy with night phases...I need to get back on that. Dough Posting during the night phase can lead to a level up yes? |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| If host allow I would like if we can use the night to bet who will die! I would put 50 gold on Karote right away! |
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Suzune-chan said: I have grown lazy with night phases...I need to get back on that. Dough Posting during the night phase can lead to a level up yes? Yes. grrr88 said: If host allow I would like if we can use the night to bet who will die! I would put 50 gold on Karote right away! Pffft, I want to say yes but this could effect the game in so many ways... #YOLO Sorry, I don't wish to be lynched next phase. |
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| I like grr88 idea :p. Oh. Right, so talking chances, which as the are the chances mafia will kill jester? |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
x_at_home said: Uhm, grave, I thought the votes are determined through subtraction. Oh, that's unfortunate. Good Night, grave. ~ Edit: From the OP Damage/Vote calculation is simple subtraction: Ex. Doughkey uses physical on Ctsu. Doughkey has a Str stat of 6, Ctsu has a def stat of 4, after phase change this will count as 2. So like Pegasus Kngiht has 4 Mag - 1 Mag Def from Kaito = 3. Freaking doughkey should be answering this.... Yeah, I read it now, the items in the shop with their percentages had me confused. Well, this Just further proves that grrr88 is the Jester (Special Class). Rumanshi said: I like grr88 idea :p. Oh. Right, so talking chances, which as the are the chances mafia will kill jester? They should kill him if they don't wanna risk having grrr88 choose one of them to die with him (if they keep him alive long enough to promote). |
| Okay, I dreamed I was writing this post. If I cannot generate a discussion from it that is okay, and it is partially just mafia theory but... Listen, there is really nothing more anti town you can do then forget your night action. This sounds strange but, night is hard for the town and less townies will come out and play. I understand this. Really, I do, mafia scum is slowly beating the nighttimeness out of me because I have begun to associate wit with my time. The towns best way to clear other townies and obtain information is to not waste power roles. While not all abilities are equal, they all have a value. The number one way the mafia can get to is if we do not have data because it went to waste. The mafia know who they target so it is easy for them to control information , do not give them free permission to control us. |
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Suzune-chan said: Okay, I dreamed I was writing this post. If I cannot generate a discussion from it that is okay, and it is partially just mafia theory but... Listen, there is really nothing more anti town you can do then forget your night action. This sounds strange but, night is hard for the town and less townies will come out and play. I understand this. Really, I do, mafia scum is slowly beating the nighttimeness out of me because I have begun to associate wit with my time. The towns best way to clear other townies and obtain information is to not waste power roles. While not all abilities are equal, they all have a value. The number one way the mafia can get to is if we do not have data because it went to waste. The mafia know who they target so it is easy for them to control information , do not give them free permission to control us. Yeah, it looks more like general advice, but the effort is nice. ^^ Grave also gave a little advice to one role and the doc should know what to do, too. What do you mean with the bolded sentence? Sorry, I don't really understand it. |
grave_robber said: x_at_home said: Uhm, grave, I thought the votes are determined through subtraction. Oh, that's unfortunate. Good Night, grave. ~ Edit: From the OP So like Pegasus Kngiht has 4 Mag - 1 Mag Def from Kaito = 3. Freaking doughkey should be answering this.... Damage/Vote calculation is simple subtraction: Ex. Doughkey uses physical on Ctsu. Doughkey has a Str stat of 6, Ctsu has a def stat of 4, after phase change this will count as 2. |
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x_at_home said: Soren and I are playing games on mafia scum, it's a website, town does not do anything at night and the game gets locked. So I'm getting spoiled by night phases were one does nothing but send their action and waitSuzune-chan said: Okay, I dreamed I was writing this post. If I cannot generate a discussion from it that is okay, and it is partially just mafia theory but... Listen, there is really nothing more anti town you can do then forget your night action. This sounds strange but, night is hard for the town and less townies will come out and play. I understand this. Really, I do, mafia scum is slowly beating the nighttimeness out of me because I have begun to associate wit with my time. The towns best way to clear other townies and obtain information is to not waste power roles. While not all abilities are equal, they all have a value. The number one way the mafia can get to is if we do not have data because it went to waste. The mafia know who they target so it is easy for them to control information , do not give them free permission to control us. Yeah, it looks more like general advice, but the effort is nice. ^^ Grave also gave a little advice to one role and the doc should know what to do, too. What do you mean with the bolded sentence? Sorry, I don't really understand it. |
Suzune-chanJun 9, 2015 8:22 AM
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Now that I finally have done what I needed to get done today, I will analyze the day's events. |
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grave_robber said: They should kill him if they don't wanna risk having grrr88 choose one of them to die with him (if they keep him alive long enough to promote). Oh I understand it now. You knew it all along that I am the most trusted town. That is why you are using reverse psychology and say they should kill me, because you don't want me dead. I had to see it earlier! Thank you Grave ^^ ! |
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Suzune-chan said: Soren and I are playing games on mafia scum, it's a website, town does not do anything at night and the game gets locked. So I'm getting spoiled by night phases were one does nothing but send their action and wait Ah I see. Well, I can understand that though it's pretty unfortunate that the town isn't using the additional time for discussion in their favor and prefer to stay silent like mafia. grrr88 said: Oh I understand it now. You knew it all along that I am the most trusted town. That is why you are using reverse psychology and say they should kill me, because you don't want me dead. I had to see it earlier! Thank you Grave ^^ ! You really like to taunt people, don't you ? ^^ |
Suzune-chan said: Okay, I dreamed I was writing this post. If I cannot generate a discussion from it that is okay, and it is partially just mafia theory but... Listen, there is really nothing more anti town you can do then forget your night action. This sounds strange but, night is hard for the town and less townies will come out and play. I understand this. Really, I do, mafia scum is slowly beating the nighttimeness out of me because I have begun to associate wit with my time. The towns best way to clear other townies and obtain information is to not waste power roles. While not all abilities are equal, they all have a value. The number one way the mafia can get to is if we do not have data because it went to waste. The mafia know who they target so it is easy for them to control information , do not give them free permission to control us. What I don't get is people not posting to ensure they lvl up.... Power roles really need to lvl up ASAP Suzune-chan said: Now that I finally have done what I needed to get done today, I will analyze the day's events. 4 hours later.... Where did you go Suzie? ;-; |
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Lambtron said: If you're town and you have something to add to the conversation then you should do so. Here you're holding yourself back from commenting on the events of day 1. If you've been away, you should give your thoughts as you catch up. Otherwise we do not get your opinion if you were present for the discussion. Which also means that you're not inserting yourself into the game. not to mention it would be silly to start up conversations you couldn't be a part of in the first place. So I see a lack of town motivation from this post, or you're just being lazy. coromandel said: So at first I was going to give you some town credits for this post. Here you're defending Kaito after he died. If you were scum I think you would just say something like "good lynch". Or just not comment on the lynch at all. I don't see why scum would be defending their partner even after death, like it doesn't make sense. So I was going to town read you based on this. But then if you did think that he was a cop, and given that that is pretty important role, why didn't you go against the lynch? (Or did you? I can't remember every detail from day 1)Soren333 said: Don't you mean grr88? Where did the jester read for Kaito come from? Because he's being anti town? I feel like it's more of a newb town with a playstyle issue. I thought the same thing, that Kaito is just a clumsy town player. Actually, I thought Kaito was the Cop, because he absolutely didn't seem to want to vote without evidence. >.> grave_robber said: Meta changes, but I do like to meta read people too so that is worth noting down. In doughey's FSN game, karote voted for kaito (unprovoked) D1 and D2, they were mafia buddies, this game he chose not to, karote wouldn't have waited for a last minute deal from grrr88 to bus kaito which makes me read karote as town for now. grave_robber said: You found a counter point to your town read on karote so shouldn't this eliminate your meta town read on karote?I will keep in mind that kaito was the cavalier and mafia would hesitate to lynch him. grave_robber said: I see you've basically done a by post by post analysis on karote. So starting with this, I said relaxed not calm, when he's relaxed he jokes around and that's what he's been doing. Err, why do I have to track down the posts..... You said that you called him relaxed and not calm, but then in your spoiler you call him being calm? Anyways, those post that you linked I can see what you mean now. Karote responds and acknowledges the votes on him, which is hard to say whether or not it indicates his alignment at all. But the playfulness I guess I can see it coming from town. grave_robber said: I don't think this is alignment indicative. I can see it coming from both scum!Karote and town!Karote. Are you pointing this out because you think that it indicates that karote is town? If so, why?He already stated his view on claiming and asked the town not to waste energey arguing over the pro-anti D1 lynch topic (unprovoked): http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=100#msg40223764 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=100#msg40223979 How is this more fun? grave_robber said: WIFOM. But I don't think Karote has malicious intent behind that post. Here, he explains his current playstyle: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=150#msg40226153 grave_robber said: I like this post too. But it's not like scum!Karote can't make a read like that as well. Showing some good logic #1: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=250#msg40239038 grave_robber said: I can see why you might think that this is good logic. But depending on how strong his jester read is, he shouldn't be lynching jester. Showing some good logic #2: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=250#msg40239205 grave_robber said: How is that a jest like explanation from grr8? It is self-preservation, which is not jester like at all.Grrr88 Jest-like vote for karote: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=250#msg40239831 The Jest-like explanation from Grrr88 and karote Showing some good logic #3: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=250#msg40240397 grave_robber said: Are you town reading karote based on this? Cause why does karote get a town read from making a deal for self-preservation, but when grrr88 voted karote for self-preservation, that was jester like?The deal to save himself and lynch Kaito: (Remember that Kaito is the mafia cavalier and they need the gold while grrr88 is most likely jester, he sees this as a good thing and accepts the deal) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1391389&show=250#msg40240747 I like the fact that you've got a read on karote and I like the fact that you gave a post by post analysis. But I can also see that you're pointing things out that you see, but not really explaining what you make of them. Ignoring the "playful and calm" posts, since you already explained why that's indicative of karote being town. The other posts you pointed out you just say "good logic", "explains playstyle" and but you didn't explain why you pointed these out and whether or not you think that these posts are indicative of karote's alignment. 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x_at_home said: grave_robber said: What I don't get is people not posting to ensure they lvl up.... Power roles really need to lvl up ASAP Yeah. They seem more like well-behaved citizens who are scared to come out at night because the night is dar kand full of terrors. Terrors? please mafia should be scared of us, we'll hunt them down. |
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Grave said: Coromandel didn't vote for kaito, she went instead for grrr88 on the basis of him being either mafia or jester and as jester she wanted him gone asap before he could kill. Kaito commented on her quick change of heart (unprovoked like he used to do with me and ehartmean in pyro's game) so she could be mafia with him and decided to bus grrr88 because kaito is their treasurer and they need gold. After her vote on grr88, the focus shifted towards grrr88 and away from kaito. I am unsure of coro's alignment now, neutral read on her for now. After re-reading everything: Kaito didn’t quote me that often, Grave. In fact, the players he interacted the most with were Soren, Suzune and you. Or maybe you mean something else? Does he usually only joke around with mafia teammates? I realize that voting for Grrr makes me look a bit suspicious. At the same time, I don’t think the Cavalier is such a big catch. Since he can only give money to each person once, I’d even consider that class someone I’d bus if I was mafia. ^^ x_at_home said: Suzune-chan said: Soren and I are playing games on mafia scum, it's a website, town does not do anything at night and the game gets locked. So I'm getting spoiled by night phases were one does nothing but send their action and wait Ah I see. Well, I can understand that though it's pretty unfortunate that the town isn't using the additional time for discussion in their favor and prefer to stay silent like mafia. Hmm... |
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Soren333 said: coromandel said: So at first I was going to give you some town credits for this post. Here you're defending Kaito after he died. If you were scum I think you would just say something like "good lynch". Or just not comment on the lynch at all. I don't see why scum would be defending their partner even after death, like it doesn't make sense. So I was going to town read you based on this. But then if you did think that he was a cop, and given that that is pretty important role, why didn't you go against the lynch? (Or did you? I can't remember every detail from day 1)I thought the same thing, that Kaito is just a clumsy town player. Actually, I thought Kaito was the Cop, because he absolutely didn't seem to want to vote without evidence. >.> Well, I wasn’t 100% sure about it, and even then, I don’t think it’s a good idea to hint to someone else’s role or something. I did post how I thought Grr was the better choice for a lynch though. |
x_at_home said: There are a few people I like to see more of next phase, let's hope things will go well ~ JDshir should be replaced and Lamby should comment on things soon. @Soren, too lazy to edit quotes, so here's my reply: 1) "You found a counter point to your town read on karote so shouldn't this eliminate your meta town read on karote?" Not really, it's just a possibility to keep in mind, I like to keep my options open, I just needed to make a mental note of that in case something interesting came up. 2) "You said that you called him relaxed and not calm, but then in your spoiler you call him being calm?" Yeah, I used calm the 2nd time for your sake and he was calm in his reaction, would you agree? You're getting hung up on irrelevant details, why? 3) "I don't think this is alignment indicative. I can see it coming from both scum!Karote and town!Karote. Are you pointing this out because you think that it indicates that karote is town? If so, why?" For karote to say it, it's quite interesting, he NEVER says things like that when he's mafia (and there goes another karote tell ;-;) 4) "How is this more fun?" I linked to the wrong post.... 5) "How is that a jest like explanation from grr8? It is self-preservation, which is not jester like at all." He had plenty of time before the deal, he refused to claim or even properly defend himself and then tried voting for karote to save his own skin. He had so much time to convince people to unvote for him had he been town. GRRR88 is the jester, stop town reading him. O_O 6) "Are you town reading karote based on this? Cause why does karote get a town read from making a deal for self-preservation, but when grrr88 voted karote for self-preservation, that was jester like?" I actually didn't like that part and if you remember I scolded him for it, since it was a shady deal. However, I myself have made shady deals with bad guys on day 1 to keep myself alive. 7) "The other posts you pointed out you just say "good logic", "explains playstyle" and but you didn't explain why you pointed these out and whether or not you think that these posts are indicative of karote's alignment. In other words, I feel like you pointed them out for the sake of pointing them out. " Who knows?! I'm not giving you all the meta I have on karote and I can't explain my thought process because it will only help people deceive me in the future. |
Doughkey said: What did we do?Mmm, you guys did it again. Thank you. |
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| Sorry, my co-works invited to to dinner to celebrate my vacation tomorrow. I am unable to post what is saved on my computer at home until later. Love you all~ |
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Suzune-chan said: Have fun Suzune ~Sorry, my co-works invited to to dinner to celebrate my vacation tomorrow. I am unable to post what is saved on my computer at home until later. Love you all~ |
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coromandel said: Grave said: Coromandel didn't vote for kaito, she went instead for grrr88 on the basis of him being either mafia or jester and as jester she wanted him gone asap before he could kill. Kaito commented on her quick change of heart (unprovoked like he used to do with me and ehartmean in pyro's game) so she could be mafia with him and decided to bus grrr88 because kaito is their treasurer and they need gold. After her vote on grr88, the focus shifted towards grrr88 and away from kaito. I am unsure of coro's alignment now, neutral read on her for now. After re-reading everything: Kaito didn’t quote me that often, Grave. In fact, the players he interacted the most with were Soren, Suzune and you. Or maybe you mean something else? Does he usually only joke around with mafia teammates? From what I've seen, he shies away from the townies when he's mafia, he does talk to them occasionally, but it's passive and somewhat subdued comments, sometimes he recycles thoughts or agrees with the casual townie, but he doesn't get confrontational. Once he's voted for, he tries to calmly respond but that doesn't work out for him, he doesn't defend well (nerves?) and that puts him in a tighter spot which leads to more slip ups. If you check my post, I called him out on his lack of interaction with players and then voted for him (pressure vote). I went back and voted for him later that day because his responses and behavior matched his previous ones (he was mafia). In the Death note for example, I was able to tell that he was an innocent or (at worst) an accomplice not kira/ disciple, I've butted heads with him in several games now, so I know what to look for. As for your question, like I said before, he mostly talks to his friends or 1 of his mafia buddies, those posts are unprovoked and not a reply (like he did with me, soren, x_at_home and suzune). He avoided karote and only replied to him. Now it could be because he was "under attack" and got distracted defending himself, but I still filed that under "interesting" since karote is his friend. |
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