| I am little curious as more anime lovers/watchers just watch online. How does that help help them? |
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| It helps if you watch on legal streaming sites like Crunchyroll |
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| Usually through: 1/TV ratings 2/Disc Sales sometimes Merchandise, contribute a lot. Depending on the time slot of the anime, it will depend mainly on one of those. Prime time anime, which are anime, with an early timeslot, depend on TV ratings. Late night anime, like Kill la Kill, depend on Disc Sales and Merchandises. From what I know, there is not a lot of piracy going in Japan. And most important, for you to know, anime fans outside of Japan, especially in the west/non-Asia, are mostly irrelevant to production earnings, Dub licensing and legal streaming site, contribute so little, it's almost negligible. It's a Japanese product made for Japanese consumers. |
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| They can earn money by selling BDs, character's figures. |
tsudecimo said: lol japan is #1 country on nyaa.seFrom what I know, there is not a lot of piracy going in Japan. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nyaa.se |
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romagia said: tsudecimo said: lol japan is #1 country on nyaa.seFrom what I know, there is not a lot of piracy going in Japan. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nyaa.se I don't buy it, especially considering how big is the difference between it and China. And isn't nyaa an Indonesian site? |
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tsudecimo said: the only other site with country stats also puts japan as #1 but at a smaller marginI don't buy it, especially considering how big is the difference between it and China. And isn't nyaa an Indonesian site? http://www.similarweb.com/website/nyaa.se also the domain is swedish and it's hosted in montreal.. it might be made by an indonesian guy or something idk.. but nothing would indicate that based on site info http://nyaa.se.ipaddress.com/ |
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| Ehh it's the first time I heard that nyaa is from Indonesia. Well not really surprising since there are a lot of piracy in my country. You can even buy 1 cour anime (LQ) with less than 1$. |
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| Watching on illegal sites doesn't help. Using Crunchyroll, Netflix, Funimation etc does. And the money (budget) is usually provided by the sponsors (eg broadcasting channel, publisher in case of light novel or manga adaption ) besides a few cases. They get back their money and eventually make a profit through Blu ray/ dvd sales (for late night seasonals or OVAs) and/or tv ratings ( long running, prime time or children stuff) or box office for movies. A boost in the sales of the source material or high merchandise sales is also sometimes even more profitable than the aforementioned. According to experts, a show that relies nearly entirely on Blu ray/ dvd sales will make a profit if it sells above a threshold known as "manabi line" which is usually between 2300 and 3000 units per volume depending on the price of the discs. Most shows eventually cross that line over time. For those that are mostly reliant on tv ratings, I don't know the exact threshold rating of profitability but since I seldom see anything below 3.0 (Bleach was removed while it was in the 1-2 region) I guess it's about that. Most anime are reliant on the domestic success since the profit made overseas is often much smaller. However, there are some cases like Space Dandy or DB kai which are heavily dependent on western success perhaps even more than Japan's. |
AgafinMay 27, 2015 7:23 AM
Agafin said: Watching on illegal sites doesn't help. Using Crunchyroll, Netflix, Funimation etc does. And the money (budget) is usually provided by the sponsors (eg broadcasting channel, publisher in case of light novel or manga adaption ) besides a few cases. They get back their money and eventually make a profit through Blu ray/ dvd sales (for late night seasonals or OVAs) and/or tv ratings ( long running, prime time or children stuff) or box office for movies. A boost in the sales of the source material or high merchandise sales is also sometimes even more profitable than the aforementioned. According to experts, a show that relies nearly entirely on Blu ray/ dvd sales will make a profit if it sells above a threshold known as "manabi line" which is usually between 2300 and 3000 units depending on the price of the discs. Most shows eventually cross that line over time. For those that are mostly reliant on tv ratings, I don't know the exact threshold rating of profitability but since I seldom see anything below 3.0 (Bleach was removed while it was in the 1-2 region) I guess it's about that. Most anime are reliant on the domestic success since the profit made overseas is often much smaller. However, there are some cases like Space Dandy or DB kai which are heavily dependent on western success perhaps even more than Japan's. very informative are sites u mentioned are free? |
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| ^They are either free or very cheap but sadly have regional blocks and limited anime available which is why illegal sites are still far more used. Japan needs to make it's distribution easier. |
AllenVonStein said: Ads . |
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Agafin said: ^They are either free or very cheap but sadly have regional blocks and limited anime available which is why illegal sites are still far more used. Japan needs to make it's distribution easier. They really need to make a Steam for anime. Seriously, how have anybody not seen such a huge business opportunity yet? |
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yhunata said: Anime Steam would still need to get rights for all those anime in order to distribute them which i think is not that easyAgafin said: ^They are either free or very cheap but sadly have regional blocks and limited anime available which is why illegal sites are still far more used. Japan needs to make it's distribution easier. They really need to make a Steam for anime. Seriously, how have anybody not seen such a huge business opportunity yet? |
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ichii_1 said: This is very interesting. |
| http://shintai88.deviantart.com/ Just some of my artwork (Total Noob Btw) http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=14885218 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMw9h7UH_6ciM7Swteaf5UA http://www.twitch.tv/shintai88 |
ichii_1 said: Seriously |
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| this is "The Anime Economy" article from ANN you might find it interesting http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05 |
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romagia said: yhunata said: Anime Steam would still need to get rights for all those anime in order to distribute them which i think is not that easyThey really need to make a Steam for anime. Seriously, how have anybody not seen such a huge business opportunity yet? They could at least allow digital downloads, can't they? The studios, I mean. Pay and download, they won't have to rely on the measly 4000 units to break-even anymore. They can also take more risks. Japan seriously needs to get into digital distribution. |
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yhunata said: crunchy and funi dont have digital downloads for a reason..romagia said: Anime Steam would still need to get rights for all those anime in order to distribute them which i think is not that easy They could at least allow digital downloads, can't they? The studios, I mean. Pay and download, they won't have to rely on the measly 4000 units to break-even anymore. They can also take more risks. Japan seriously needs to get into digital distribution. |
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romagia said: yhunata said: crunchy and funi dont have digital downloads for a reason..They could at least allow digital downloads, can't they? The studios, I mean. Pay and download, they won't have to rely on the measly 4000 units to break-even anymore. They can also take more risks. Japan seriously needs to get into digital distribution. Which would be? |
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yhunata said: not being allowedromagia said: crunchy and funi dont have digital downloads for a reason.. Which would be? yes.. that sounds right |
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Lancehot said: Unless we live in some magical fantasy world where people are willing to pay £20 per episode for digital downloads, we're not going to be seeing them happen. For what it's worth, Steam isn't very popular in Japan because, among other factors, the PC market is relatively small & it is heavily regionally restricted compared to other markets. Japan is surprisingly anachronistic when it comes to a lot of things, & physical media sales is one of them. Wasn't talking per episode, to be honest. Like let purchase the entire series for a set price and then download as the episodes come out. But if it isn't allowed, well... that's it, then? And I said Steam for anime, as in for the global market. Not the Japanese market. |
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yhunata said: Yea stream will be a great place to show anime |
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Agafin said: Watching on illegal sites doesn't help. Using Crunchyroll, Netflix, Funimation etc does. And the money (budget) is usually provided by the sponsors (eg broadcasting channel, publisher in case of light novel or manga adaption ) besides a few cases. They get back their money and eventually make a profit through Blu ray/ dvd sales (for late night seasonals or OVAs) and/or tv ratings ( long running, prime time or children stuff) or box office for movies. A boost in the sales of the source material or high merchandise sales is also sometimes even more profitable than the aforementioned. According to experts, a show that relies nearly entirely on Blu ray/ dvd sales will make a profit if it sells above a threshold known as "manabi line" which is usually between 2300 and 3000 units per volume depending on the price of the discs. Most shows eventually cross that line over time. For those that are mostly reliant on tv ratings, I don't know the exact threshold rating of profitability but since I seldom see anything below 3.0 (Bleach was removed while it was in the 1-2 region) I guess it's about that. Most anime are reliant on the domestic success since the profit made overseas is often much smaller. However, there are some cases like Space Dandy or DB kai which are heavily dependent on western success perhaps even more than Japan's. Best summary ever to basic anime economics. I'm quoting you each time I’m asked that question. |
Agafin said: For those that are mostly reliant on tv ratings, I don't know the exact threshold rating of profitability but since I seldom see anything below 3.0 (Bleach was removed while it was in the 1-2 region) I guess it's about that. Explain why the anime had a major budget increase then if it was cancelled? And 2+% rating was still better than most stuff airing back then. Bleach ended cause they didn't want to do more filler, which was why the rating fell in the first place. Also Toonami ratings for the west, if the Japan rating are higher (which they should be) then Bleach being cancelled is ridiculous. |
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| To support them -import BD/DVDs from Japan (Expensive and not recommended for most fans) -import Merchandise (highly recommended, you don't have go for the super premium stuff either, a measly keychain supports the industry), most non-dark and edgy late night anime and shounen has good merchandise, it only gets difficult when you get into shoujo anime that aren't Precure, Pripara, and Aikatsu; Josei and certain Seinen. -Watch legal streams |
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Hoppy said: To support them -import BD/DVDs from Japan (Expensive and not recommended for most fans) -import Merchandise (highly recommended, you don't have go for the super premium stuff either, a measly keychain supports the industry), most non-dark and edgy late night anime and shounen has good merchandise, it only gets difficult when you get into shoujo anime that aren't Precure, Pripara, and Aikatsu; Josei and certain Seinen. -Watch legal streams Any other way without spending money. Like they have any website and they get benefit by our visiting them or something like that. |
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wasif_khan said: crunchy has free streaming ehHoppy said: To support them -import BD/DVDs from Japan (Expensive and not recommended for most fans) -import Merchandise (highly recommended, you don't have go for the super premium stuff either, a measly keychain supports the industry), most non-dark and edgy late night anime and shounen has good merchandise, it only gets difficult when you get into shoujo anime that aren't Precure, Pripara, and Aikatsu; Josei and certain Seinen. -Watch legal streams Any other way without spending money. Like they have any website and they get benefit by our visiting them or something like that. so do many legal streaming sites i believe |
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romagia said: I checked Crunchy is US site. Why would I go there :D |
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